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Thread started 10/25/03 8:14am

CAMILLE4U

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Jay and Silent Bob strike back (Featuring The Time)

(I imagin that this has been posted before but)

Last night I watched "Jay and Silent Bob strike back" which is one of the funniest films I've seen in months. For those Prince fans who don't know there is a preformance of 'Jungle Love' by the Time at the end (because Jay is a massive Morris Day fan)

At the start of the movie Jay is Rappin and then breaks out into 'Jungle love'. When some kids ask him what he's singing he says "Jungle love, a song written by God and sent to the greatest band in the world"

wink Also, if U like that film check out Dogma
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/03 8:32am

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Well the Director Kevin Smith (Silent Bob) was a huge Prince fan until... well watch the DVD 'An Evening With Kevin Smith' (I think) and find out.
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/03 8:38am

CAMILLE4U

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Xpertlover said:

Well the Director Kevin Smith (Silent Bob) was a huge Prince fan until... well watch the DVD 'An Evening With Kevin Smith' (I think) and find out.


Oh go on. Tell me. (I'll get that DVD later)
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/03 3:10pm

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It's too long of a story to do it any justice here (IMO). Kevin goes on about his story for almost 30 minutes on the DVD.
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/03 4:18pm

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CAMILLE4U said:

Xpertlover said:

Well the Director Kevin Smith (Silent Bob) was a huge Prince fan until... well watch the DVD 'An Evening With Kevin Smith' (I think) and find out.


Oh go on. Tell me. (I'll get that DVD later)


A few excerpts from reviews of the DVD set off the net buddy:


Kevin Smith, Off the Rack
Silent Bob speaks out on Prince, Superman, and much more!
03.14.03 | Al Simonis - In My Humble Opinion


At roughly the same time British journalist Martin Bashir was following pop-megastar Michael Jackson on an eight month sojourn from travesty to travesty, independent filmmaker Kevin Smith spent a week in Minnesota taping a documentary for Prince. The difference between the two is that while the Jacko doc was viewed by something like half the world's population (most of whom concur that he is, in fact, "Whacko"), Smith's work with his Royal Badness will likely never see the light of day.

How then, do I know that such a film exists, secreted away in a vault somewhere beneath Prince's Paisley Park estate? Simple, dear reader - the chronicle of his encounter with the Purple One is one of many anecdotes shared during Smith's own documentary of a series of his recent campus lectures.

The film is called An Evening With Kevin Smith. At a running time of 194 minutes over 2 DVDs the title is, if nothing else, accurate. Yet it is a pleasant evening, with Smith answering questions from students of Cornell, Kent State, Wyoming, Clark College, and Indiana chiefly, though not exclusively, regarding his five films.

When you think about it, the collegiate forum is appropriate since students are, by and large, his audience. Smith's films seem to have tapped into the cultural zeitgeist surrounding young people who are generally intelligent, yet manage to do some insanely moronic things. Sounds like college kids to me!

True to form, for every thoughtful, insightful query posed to Smith, the film includes at least one merry prankster inviting Kev to spark up a doob or get loaded at whatever shack passes for the campus bar after the show. As I was watching I began wondering why it was necessary to include so many of them, only to realize that they probably had many, many more to choose from, and that these were actually the pick of the litter. It should be noted too that Smith's answers are witty enough to make even the most asinine of questions worthy of inclusion in the film.

But enough about the stupid questions -- The value of the film is in listening to Smith describe his experiences. Partially it's his take on fame. One of the highlights of the Prince fiasco was a story about a group of fans Smith was to interview about the new Prince album. Coming out of their listening booths at Paisley Park, Smith could tell that about 20% of them recognized him as Silent Bob from Clerks, and were at least a bit confused as to why he was there. As Smith says, "I was the last person in the world they expected to see there." Smith also delves deep into the history of his characters, revealing the meanings of some of their catchphrases. If you ever wanted to know what "Snoogans" means, this is the DVD for you.

Smith shares his take on the art of filmmaking as well, citing that he doesn't think he has a recognizable visual style, preferring to place his stamp on his films through dialogue between characters. He probably still considers himself more of a writer than a director in any case. At one point he comments that, "The writer crafts their ideal world. In my world, everyone has really long conversations about interesting (stuff) or just picks apart pop culture to death and everyone talks in monologue." As a Kevin Smith fan, I concur that dialogue is his strong suit. That may be the reason that Evening works as a form of entertainment: Smith is an exceptionally good storyteller.

A particular favorite of mine (apart from the Prince bit) comes late on disk one as Smith delves into a lengthy segment on his experience as the screenwriter on an aborted Superman project. The story goes on for quite a long time and the events covered are fairly complicated. However I, as well as the campus audience, stay right with him. The proof is that when he nearly reaches the punch line of the entire bit, the crowd lets out a gasp of acknowledgement. They know what the end of the joke is going to be, because they were paying attention to the story. Further evidence of Smith's skill as a speaker is that knowing what the joke will be doesn't make it any less funny when he actually says it. Smith has mastered the matter of comedic timing.

I enjoyed spending my evening with Kevin Smith - For over three hours Smith's (practically) the only one on stage, he doesn't move much, and aside from cutaways to the questioners, he's the sole focus of the camera. I was able to stay with the film because I was interested in what he had to say, and the way that he was saying it. Even if, like Smith's own movies, An Evening With Kevin Smith is a visual failure, that's okay. As he says in the film, "In Hollywood you just kind of fail upwards."

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Now I’m not sure if any of you had heard about this already, but musician Prince had called Kevin a few weeks ago and asked him to film a documentary of him. Kevin said that he obviously couldn’t say “no” and that he’d always been a fan of “Batdance” (everyone laughed). He said that he didn’t really know much about the guy before he met him and that the experience actually felt more like a “job” to him. He said that he did see “another side” of Prince, and that his main task was to film people talking about his new album and stuff. It was apparently a pretty long process and lasted about a week or so. He also mixed in some concert footage of Prince in Minnesota. Smith wasn’t sure what Prince had seen in DOGMA that made him want to call him up and ask for his help, but he wasn’t sure if he ever wanted to do anything like that again either (work for someone else). It basically sounded like Kevin didn’t have much “say” in the project and that he was just there as a “hired hand” and I could imagine that after all of his own projects at View Askew, it must’ve been weird being told what to do and all. Smith also said that Prince would still be a little “vague” with him about certain questions that Kevin had, and Kevin would be like “yeah, but what exactly does that mean, dude?!?”

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Next we have a lengthy diatribe about shooting an unreleased documentary about Prince. I am personally a big fan of Prince, as is/was Kevin Smith, but after hearing this story, it becomes hard to think of Prince in the same way.

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The second amazing story is on the second disc and in it Smith details how he got involved in making a documentary for Prince when all he wanted was to ask him for rights to one of his songs. It's an entertaining story that is hard to describe and do justice. Prince comes off as being completely insane (which his producer seems to know and accept) and insanely religious. Smith ends up directing and leading discussion groups of people who have listened to Prince's newest album (even though he really has no clue what he's doing) and gets to be ministered to by "his purpleness". Along the way he finds out that Prince doesn't always wear heels (and wait until you hear where he buys sweatsuits), is a Jehova's Witness, and why Chaka mad. You won't get that last part unless you hear this story but believe me, you will be laughing so hard you'll cry. It's a shame that the documentary will never be released and this fact alone (along with the story behind some unseen music videos) just goes to show that Prince will forever live in "Prince world" and not with the rest of us. The highlight within the Prince story has got to be Smith's facial expressions when telling it (and he says he can't act), which make the story even stronger.

Throughout the film Smith endears himself to his already devoted fans. His interaction with his fans shows how much fun he has and his willingness to answer any question (no matter how stupid it is) show that he is a professional.
[This message was edited Sat Oct 25 16:30:28 PDT 2003 by bananacologne]
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Reply #5 posted 10/26/03 1:06am

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Chris Rock stole the show. lol

"Boy, does yo daddy know you bring a nigga his coffee? It would kill him."

"No, man, you a tracer. Ain't nobody got the heart to tell you but you trace. You go around the line. Bill Cosby didn't trace over Fat Albert. He did the whole thing with a roller & it was excellent!!!" lol

"You know I came up with the idea for Sesame Street?? That's right, The white man stole it from me. I was gonna call it 'N.W.P.: Niggas With Puppets'. Catchy ain't it?" lol

sigh That movie's a classic!!!
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Reply #6 posted 10/26/03 9:53am

Nikster

I love that movie dancing jig


Kevin Smith rocks!! headbang
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Reply #7 posted 10/26/03 10:26am

CAMILLE4U

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NWF said:

Chris Rock stole the show. lol

"Boy, does yo daddy know you bring a nigga his coffee? It would kill him."

"No, man, you a tracer. Ain't nobody got the heart to tell you but you trace. You go around the line. Bill Cosby didn't trace over Fat Albert. He did the whole thing with a roller & it was excellent!!!" lol

"You know I came up with the idea for Sesame Street?? That's right, The white man stole it from me. I was gonna call it 'N.W.P.: Niggas With Puppets'. Catchy ain't it?" lol

sigh That movie's a classic!!!


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Nikster said:

I love that movie dancing jig


Kevin Smith rocks!! headbang


All their films rock! Great cast. Silent Bob, Jay, Chris rock. They make wicked movies. 'Hope they make some more.
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Reply #8 posted 10/26/03 12:13pm

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The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is Chasing Amy..pretty good!
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Reply #9 posted 10/26/03 1:55pm

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...mmm...Dushku...
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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Reply #10 posted 10/28/03 7:33pm

Nikster

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...mmm...Dushku...




Mmmm...drool
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Reply #11 posted 11/01/03 1:13am

NWF

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I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER!!! YOU SEE THIS FUCKIN' FACE HERE?!!! THIS MOTHERFUCKER COMMANDS THE CLIT!!!

lol
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Reply #12 posted 11/01/03 7:03pm

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That film is 2 funny!. The Time r my second fave band ever! Morris Day & Jerome r 2 cool.

Where can u get the DVD where Kevin Smith talks about Prince etc.?

What Time Is It?
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