Prince clones reunion pt 2

Prince clones reunion

I am thinking of coorniating a Prince clone reunion. Mostly old school but DAngelo can come. Heres the short list. Feel free to add LEGITMATE clones from any Prince era. Prince clone is defined by any rip off of the Prince sound or look.


Ready for the World
Georgio
Micki Free
Barkays (they actually ripped off everybody that was funky)
Xavier
Rick James (check out the video for a song named Glow)
O Bryan
Mazarati (even though they were a Paisley Park act)
Jesse Johnson (I'm his no. 1 fan but the first couple albums was all Prince)


I also have to add Tony Rich - the most original clone. He actually has a signature symbol and uses r for are and u for you as Prince does. Very similar vocal arrangements and a multi instrumentalist as well.

How did I forget Terence Trent Darby - the best Prince clone. He is still naking good music and he has made a rebellious stance against the industry just like Prince. Everyone remembers in the 80s when he was heralded as thhhe new Prince. He's bad and probably the only one that gives a live show that could even come close to Prince. His WildCard album is probably the most brilliant album that no one has heard this side of The Rainbow Children. Just for a minute, put down the low class sex driven soft porn pop for the likes of Beyonce and most rappers and seek this out.

Will this guy ever get off my jock?

BlaqueKnight said:

James Brown,Shuggie Ottis,Rick James,R.Kelly,THe Isley Brothers,Queen,Gap Band,Spinal Tap,Smokey Robinson,Rolling Stones,Steely Dan,Babyface,Michael Jackson,Berry Gordy,those are some more.

LaMont said:

Uh, you misread your ebonics dictionary. I think what you mean is: Will this guy ever stop puttin' my shit in check.
To answer tyour question WITH A QUESTION - Will you EVER stop posting BULLSHIT,
LaMont?



p.s. Thanks Maxxx. You're always on point, bruh.

BlaqueKnight said:

Likewise Man.I always Read Your Posts no matter what the topic.you were the Cat that got me into David Ryan Harris Props on that&always Being a true Soul brother from back.Peace

mistermaxxx said:

Get off my jock

Terence Trent D'Angelo

neronava said:

BlaqueKnight said:

uh, its a joke-get it?

All the wonderful artists mentioned definatly have connections with Prince,but lets not forget,some of them were around before Prince and he was influenced by them,therfore they cannot be Prince "clones"{i think?}
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BlaqueKnight said:

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No Uptight Negro. Lamont meant for you to get off of his jock.

BlaqueKnight said:

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Yes, Prince has ripped off most of these people but he gives credit were credit is due. Most of the clowns that LaMont listed do not.

In addition, it would be hard for a 45 year old Prince to rip off a newbie like D'Angelo. Most of D'Angelo's slow tunes are total rip off of Prince slow jams.

laurarichardson said:

Why is it when Prince gives credit, its "paying homage" but when others do the exact same thing, its copycating? I do think its a smple lack of respect for the talents and contributions of those other than Prince.
"Me and Those Dreamin' Eyes of Mine" by D'Angelo is definately no Prince rip off. and don't give me that crap about "he's singing in falsetto" as if Prince was the first one to do that or any silly shit about there being a guitar solo in the song. And YES, a 45 year old man CAN rip off someone his junior. Its done ALL THE TIME by cats trying to get a hit and make a comeback by trying to sound "new". By your logic then, you disagree that The Bar-Kays and Rick James ripped off Prince. Way to put your foot in your mouth Laura.
Jesse Johnson's last CD "Bare My Naked Soul" couldn't BE anything further from a Prince-ish record. If you'd listened to it, you would know that. Even his early records and his early production reflected the intricate differences that HE brought to the Prince camp. His first two records were NOT all Prince; they were all JESSE. The smartest MN sound members were Jimmy & Terry because they cut out early enough to get recognition for their contributions. And Jesse still kicks Prince's ass on guitar!
The Bar-kays and Rick James were playing when Prince was still in his basement with Andre. Only idiot idolworshippers see their musical contributions as Prince knockoffs. Get a clue; THEY WERE ALREADY FAMOUS BEFORE PRINCE. TTD sounds NOTHING like Prince. NOTHING! Wishing Well? HELLO? Pick up WildCard.
Mazarati was BROWN MARK'S group. OF COURSE they would have the MN sound. Duh!

You singing background in LaMont's band or something?

BlaqueKnight said:

I guess it time for me to put my foot in your rearend for the second time today.

The clones of Prince were not always paying homage. A lot of them were just untalented guys trying to ride off the hot sound of the day. Instead of coming up with something new. Prince borrowed a lot from Hendrix, James Brown, Little Richard and Sly Stone but he did bring something new to the table.

The singing style is not the rip off that D'Angelo is pulling it is the fact that his voice sometimes sounds exactly like Prince. He needs to stop biting and get his own style or he will soon start selling his music on his website like his idol.

Of couse a older person can rip off a younger person. I just do not think Prince rips off D'Angelo. I think D'Angelo rips off Prince by going out of his way to sound like him.

Pleses explain how Jesse Johnson first two records don't rip the Prince sound. Jesse rode Prince coattails harder then any of his associatates. I have not heard "Bare My Naked Sold but, if it is different it was about time.

"The Bar-kays and Rick James were playing when Prince was still in his basement with Andre. Only idiot idolworshippers see their musical contributions as Prince knockoffs. Get a clue; THEY WERE ALREADY FAMOUS BEFORE PRINCE. TTD sounds NOTHING like Prince. NOTHING! Wishing Well? HELLO? Pick up "

I never said that the Bar-Keys or Rick James copied Prince.
Prince borrowed a lot from both of them. I never said TTD copied Prince.

I not signing backgroud in LaMonts band but, he did come of with a good post and you just had to go there with your stupid ass response.

LaMont said:

I thought it was "Get off of my TIP"...?

BlaqueKnight said:

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Get this in your fat head.

I think that Jesse Johnson was ripping off the MN sound.
The guy never had an orignal idea and when the MN sound faded popularity his carreer went down the tubes. Of course drugs use did not help his situation. This is my opinion. I do not have to be a musical expert. I think Jesse Johnson was a Prince rip off. If you do not like it so what. People in hell want ice water but, they are not going to get any.
Everybody does not have to agree with BlackKnight the so-called music god of Prince Org. Get over yourself.

If you think Ready for The World had their own sound you need to put the crack pipe away. The only thing your are right about is the fact that your response to Lamont was silly. Please stop patting yourself on the back by calling them clever. Perhaps your type of comments are considered clever in whatever housing project you came from.

laurarichardson said:

How was jesse Johnson ripping off the MN sound when he was a part of that sound? Explain that, please?

They all copied each other...

Mcwatson68 said:

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Jesse Johnson did not create the MN sound Prince did. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis have admitted that much. Like Jimmy and Terry. Jesse could have gone in a different direction with his solo work, He did not do that he choose to do the MN sound. Therefore, he was copying a style that Prince has already created and done. I am not knocking him for what he did. I like the stuff he put out. I just think he was a clone.

Woman, are you NUTS? Do you even read what you write or is typing out of your ass simply commonplace for you? Personal attacks? Why? LaMont posted some stupid crap and I responded accordingly. Its fine if you and he think that your beloved Prince is the master of all music and everyone copies him. Live your illusion; I don't care. I will post what I want where I want and HOW I want. Don't like it? Tough shit. I agree to DISAGREE. If you observe intricate details, you learn how to differenciate different artists' sounds. Seeing as how quick YOU are to judge, I can see why you can comprehend the differences. S'Aight. Hope you learn how one day.
Pis...uh, I mean Peace.
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Ready For The World borrowed a little too heavily from the Minneapolis Sound,imo.It wasn't just the synths,it was also their percussion effects,drum machine programming and other studio tricks that Prince had already mastered.Their first two albums sound like outtakes from the '1999' album,especially these songs...


***"Baby (Let Me Love You)"(1986)---the synth line on this song is very similiar to "Little Red Corvette".

***"Mary Goes Round"(1986)---musically,this song reminds me of "Lady Cab Driver",and the lyrics rely on the same type of sexy,provocative metaphors that Prince would have used ("you're like a doorknob and everybody's had their turn"...."how ever do you get your garden there to grow?").In fact,this song even includes a line "I guess I shoulda known",taken directly from "Little Red Corvette".

***"I'm The One Who Loves You"(1985)---listen to that eerie stop-start beat and that "squishing" synth sound,which you can also hear on "Sex Shooter".The drum machine on this tune sounds ALOT like the '1999' songs.



I'm not knocking these guys.In fact,I was a huge fan of their first two albums.Out of all the Prince clones,they were probably the best and scored the most success.They came along at just the right time,in the aftermath of 'Purple Rain' and they benefitted from having a Prince-influenced sound.But I think it's a stretch to say that they had their own sound (even "Oh Sheila" borrowed it's synth hook from the 1983 Cameo hit "Style").For the most part,they just jumped on whatever sound was hot at the time.After their first two albums,they returned in 1988 with the 'Rough N' Ready' album,a project that found them jumping on the New Jack Swing bandwagon.After that,they couldn't really find any other styles to emulate and they faded away.
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laurarichardson said:

While I thought he was similar, I didn't think him a clone. Ready For the World, yes. They were a clone. Since Jesse was there in the scene, I think he has a little better stance than RFTW. He was there when Prince was rising, aka, BEFORE he was an icon. Who's to say what happened during any particular jam sessions where one or the other said "Hey, that sounds cool. I need to try something like that" (I think most musicians do this). That doesn't make him a clone. Andre Cymone wasn't a clone, either, but I bet everyone thought he was when "Dance Electric" came out. "Awww, look! Prince's old roomate wants to make an album!" was probably said numerous times.

They all grew/evolved together. It's unfair to the rest of the musicians to say they all straight-out copied Prince. Sheila E. was more a copy-cat in Krush Groove when she's talking to Run in her apt. and starts acting like Prince & Morris Day.

That was horrible.

As for RFTW, I never really gave a shit about them. I sort of liked "Human Toy" from the 1st album, but that was it.

adding my two cents...

Prince did not single handily create the Mppls. Sound, if some really, truly think that, well, god help you.

Jesses's style and music did seem very princely, but you have to factor in that he was signed right after he left prince, when he was still this magastar, I'm sure he didn't have 100% say in his style/music back then. However, jesse was a part of the Mpls. Sound, he'd been a part for what, 4 years? Of course that's gonna show up in his music, he wasn't "copying" anybody, he was doing the type of music he'd been playing for years. Style-wise, yes, very prince-like, music-wise, very Mpls Sound-like, two very diffrent things.

as far as RFTW go, they simply "copied" anyone/sound that was popular at the time, they didn't base their whole (short-lived) career on prince, they based it on copying whoever was big at the time. and they did a dman fine job at it as well

BTW: everyone "borrows"-including prince

BlaqueKnight said:

JEZUS

What about that band Freur? They were some New Wave band from way back when that had the hit "Doot Doot". It sounded kinda Prince-ish to me. I'll bet any amount of money no one here's heard of them. Another thing is that before Prince even thought of changing his name into a symbol years later, Freur were identified only as a symbol. Howabout that?

lovebizzare said:

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I am only saying he created the MN sound because that is what Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis said.

"Rhythm Syndicate" <--- One of the worst & most embarrasing Prince "inspired" artists
of all time, hands down.

See for yourself; http://launch.yahoo.com/a...ID=1040699
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Rzeplica said:

good one; very obscure, too.