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Thread started 09/10/03 8:53am

LaMont

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Prince and Kate Bush

There is a song called "Why Should I love You?" on Kate's Red Shoes album that is the best Prince collaboration that I ever heard. I never heard much about this cut. Kate keeps a pretty low profile these days. She did contribute to "My Computer" on Emanciaption but I would like to see some new material and another full collaboration with Prince. I think that their musical directions are as close as they have ever been right now.
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Reply #1 posted 09/10/03 11:47am

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Apparently both songs were recorded at early 90s. I read somewhere there were 4 songs recorded but I only know the ones you mention.

I always thought Kate's production spoils Why should I love U. Prince's voice not only disappears but is substituted by Lenny Henry's omg

I wish some day we'll hear the REAL collaboration
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Reply #2 posted 09/10/03 5:13pm

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PANDURITO said:

Apparently both songs were recorded at early 90s. I read somewhere there were 4 songs recorded but I only know the ones you mention.

I always thought Kate's production spoils Why should I love U. Prince's voice not only disappears but is substituted by Lenny Henry's omg

I wish some day we'll hear the REAL collaboration



I thought Prince only contributed keyboards? No?

i like it, i think more of prince would ruin the song and her style even more than it did...
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/03 5:34pm

LaMont

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sosgemini said:

PANDURITO said:

Apparently both songs were recorded at early 90s. I read somewhere there were 4 songs recorded but I only know the ones you mention.

I always thought Kate's production spoils Why should I love U. Prince's voice not only disappears but is substituted by Lenny Henry's omg

I wish some day we'll hear the REAL collaboration



I thought Prince only contributed keyboards? No?

i like it, i think more of prince would ruin the song and her style even more than it did...



Prince did keyboards, guitar, bass, and vocals. More than that and it becomes a Prince record altogether!
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Reply #4 posted 09/10/03 10:53pm

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PANDURITO said:

Apparently both songs were recorded at early 90s. I read somewhere there were 4 songs recorded but I only know the ones you mention.

I always thought Kate's production spoils Why should I love U. Prince's voice not only disappears but is substituted by Lenny Henry's omg

I wish some day we'll hear the REAL collaboration

Read Alex Hahn's The rise and fall. it has a nice story about how Prince spoiled the original recording and that it took months to restore the song after Prince returned the mastertape with his contributions.
So I wonder who the spoiler is.
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Reply #5 posted 09/11/03 9:27am

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LaMont said:



Prince did keyboards, guitar, bass, and vocals. More than that and it becomes a Prince record altogether!



yes he did but its my understanding that they removed the bulk of his contributions...


doesnt the linear notes just mention Prince-Keyboard? anyone? anyone? ill dig through my collection and see when i get home...
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Reply #6 posted 09/11/03 5:41pm

LaMont

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sosgemini said:

LaMont said:



Prince did keyboards, guitar, bass, and vocals. More than that and it becomes a Prince record altogether!



yes he did but its my understanding that they removed the bulk of his contributions...


doesnt the linear notes just mention Prince-Keyboard? anyone? anyone? ill dig through my collection and see when i get home...



The lioner notes on my Red SHoes CD credit PRince with the instruments that I listed - not kust keyboards. If you are listening on something better than a cheap ass Radio shack system, you can clearly hear Prince's voice on the record
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Reply #7 posted 09/14/03 1:48pm

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Excerpt from Michael Koppelman relating the collaboration in interview with Uptown:

http://www.uptown.se/2002...bush.shtml

More detail in Uptown issue #45


Michael Koppelman: How Prince recorded the wrong lyrics and pretended Kate Bush wanted them changed:

http://gaffa.org/moments/2_2j.html
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Reply #8 posted 09/14/03 5:16pm

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LaMont said:


The lioner notes on my Red SHoes CD credit PRince with the instruments that I listed - not kust keyboards. If you are listening on something better than a cheap ass Radio shack system, you can clearly hear Prince's voice on the record



:LOL:

i love your convections..even when your wrong..lol
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Reply #9 posted 09/14/03 6:19pm

LaMont

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sosgemini said:

LaMont said:


The lioner notes on my Red SHoes CD credit PRince with the instruments that I listed - not kust keyboards. If you are listening on something better than a cheap ass Radio shack system, you can clearly hear Prince's voice on the record



:LOL:

i love your convections..even when your wrong..lol



prove it, hater. I have the CD and I can see what is listed on the liner notes.
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Reply #10 posted 09/14/03 9:06pm

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LaMont said:

prove it, hater. I have the CD and I can see what is listed on the liner notes.


and so do i...but ive also read about how kate and the engineer spent tones of time removing prince's contribution...


thats not hating...thats just the facts...
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Reply #11 posted 09/15/03 7:08pm

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sosgemini said:

LaMont said:

prove it, hater. I have the CD and I can see what is listed on the liner notes.


and so do i...but ive also read about how kate and the engineer spent tones of time removing prince's contribution...


thats not hating...thats just the facts...


Sosgemini, ignore him and he'll go back to eating paint chips.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #12 posted 09/15/03 7:52pm

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squirrelgrease said:


Sosgemini, ignore him and he'll go back to eating paint chips.



lol
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Reply #13 posted 09/17/03 9:56am

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Henk said:

PANDURITO said:

I always thought Kate's production spoils Why should I love U. Prince's voice not only disappears but is substituted by Lenny Henry's omg

I wish some day we'll hear the REAL collaboration

Read Alex Hahn's The rise and fall. it has a nice story about how Prince spoiled the original recording and that it took months to restore the song after Prince returned the mastertape with his contributions.
So I wonder who the spoiler is.


A simple spectograph test will show that the slowed down voice on the record is definitely Prince's.

Moreover, Lenny Henry's participation in the recording of 'Why Should I Love U' had previously been reported as fact but there are now doubts as to the authenticity of said report, especially in the light of Hahn's recent publication where Lenny Henry is not mentioned at all in connection to the record. It appears that Pandurito is referring to information that has recently been confirmed as inaccurate.

As for the finished product, it appears Kate Bush thought Prince had taken undue "liberties" with the original recording and had gone much further than what had been previously agreed between the two, hence the months it took for her producer to "restore" the master to anything resembling its original state.

As far as "spoiling" things, I too wouldn't mind hearing the version that Prince ended up sending Kate. I don't accept it was the disaster most people seem to think it is. More than likely, Kate was just annoyed by Prince's actions.

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