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Thread started 11/18/23 3:21pm

26ten

Ranking the protege albums!

I'm trying to figure this out too and will be listening to all the protege albums I can find this week.

All I know is that The Time and especially the Jill Jones album (especially this one!) seem to be my favorites. I absolutely LOVE the JJ album.
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Reply #1 posted 11/18/23 5:40pm

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Off the top of my head, my favorites are The Time's second album, 'What Time Is It?' and Sheila's first two albums, 'Glamorous Life' and 'Romance 1600'.


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Reply #2 posted 11/19/23 12:12am

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I've included Madhouse and NPG, although they're just Prince under another name. I did not include albums that just had a few Prince songs on them, like Elisa Fiorillo, whose I Am had 5 Prince songs, but wasn't a full on Prince produced record. The same goes for Brownmark, Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Mavis Staples, etc. Some of these were people who either simply recorded a Prince song, or were signed to Paisley Park, neither of which made them a full on protege act.

This is my quick list in order of preference. I know The Family should be higher to some, but the two instrumentals knock it down a couple of notches.

  1. Jill Jones
  2. What Time Is It?
  3. Exodus
  4. The Family
  5. The Time
  6. Vanity 6
  7. 8
  8. Sheila E.
  9. 16
  10. The Glamorous Life
  11. Ice Cream Castles
  12. Times Squared (also Madhouse 24)
  13. Come 2 My House
  14. Romance 1600
  15. Pandemonium
  16. NewPowerSoul
  17. Milk and Honey
  18. Apollonia 6
  19. Children of the Sun
  20. Goldnigga
  21. GCS2000
  22. Elixer
  23. Carmen Electra

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Reply #3 posted 11/19/23 5:58am

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  1. Jill Jones

  2. 8

  3. What Time Is It?

  4. The Glamorous Life

  5. The Family

  6. Romance 1600

  7. Pandemonium

  8. Mazarati

  9. Vanity 6

  10. Taja Sevelle

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Reply #4 posted 11/19/23 10:07am

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TrivialPursuit said:

I've included Madhouse and NPG, although they're just Prince under another name. I did not include albums that just had a few Prince songs on them, like Elisa Fiorillo, whose I Am had 5 Prince songs, but wasn't a full on Prince produced record. The same goes for Brownmark, Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Mavis Staples, etc. Some of these were people who either simply recorded a Prince song, or were signed to Paisley Park, neither of which made them a full on protege act.

This is my quick list in order of preference. I know The Family should be higher to some, but the two instrumentals knock it down a couple of notches.

  1. Jill Jones
  2. What Time Is It?
  3. Exodus
  4. The Family
  5. The Time
  6. Vanity 6
  7. 8
  8. Sheila E.
  9. 16
  10. The Glamorous Life
  11. Ice Cream Castles
  12. Times Squared (also Madhouse 24)
  13. Come 2 My House
  14. Romance 1600
  15. Pandemonium
  16. NewPowerSoul
  17. Milk and Honey
  18. Apollonia 6
  19. Children of the Sun
  20. Goldnigga
  21. GCS2000
  22. Elixer
  23. Carmen Electra



You say you didn't include albums that were not fully produced by him and had only a few Prince songs, but you listed Sheila E.'s eponymously titled third album, 'Sheila. E.'. Prince had input into only 5 of the 10 tracks on that. Don't get me wrong -- I think it's a great album. I just don't believe it fits the criteria you laid out for yourself.

Pandemonium and GCS2000 also might not fit your criteria.


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Reply #5 posted 11/19/23 12:27pm

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lurker316 said:

You say you didn't include albums that were not fully produced by him and had only a few Prince songs, but you listed Sheila E.'s eponymously titled third album, 'Sheila. E.'. Prince had input into only 5 of the 10 tracks on that. Don't get me wrong -- I think it's a great album. I just don't believe it fits the criteria you laid out for yourself.

Pandemonium and GCS2000 also might not fit your criteria.


That was a call on my part because she was still very much in Prince's camp beyond having a couple of his songs on a record. That was smack in the middle of SOTT and Lovesexy, so that's a protege record.

Pandemonium made it because had it not been for GB, they'd have not gotten together to do anything at all. The majority of those songs are Prince songs. Less than half a dozen are non-Prince tracks.
GCS2000 - well. It's at #21 for a reason.

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Reply #6 posted 11/19/23 12:32pm

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eduJ said:

  1. Jill Jones

  2. 8

  3. What Time Is It?

  4. The Glamorous Life

  5. The Family

  6. Romance 1600

  7. Pandemonium

  8. Mazarati

  9. Vanity 6

  10. Taja Sevelle


How is Taja Sevelle a protege? She's done two Prince songs. It's why I ended up not putting Mazarati on my list. One full on Prince song, and two sets of lyrics for existing music.

It's weird because it's muddled in those ways. Dabbles here and there, but should we count only the full on records? Mazarati wasn't really a protege act, just someone on the then-new Paisley Park records. I suppose that's all part of the fun of lists.

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Reply #7 posted 11/21/23 5:17am

RJOrion

1. What Time Is It
2. Ice Cream Castles
3. Exodus
4. The Time
5. NewPowerSoul
6. Elixer
7. The Glamorous Life
8. Jill Jones
9. Vanity 6
10. The Family
[Edited 11/21/23 5:26am]
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/23 6:22am

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26ten said:

I'm trying to figure this out too and will be listening to all the protege albums I can find this week. All I know is that The Time and especially the Jill Jones album (especially this one!) seem to be my favorites. I absolutely LOVE the JJ album.

Jill Jones is one of my fave protege albums too. Violet Blue is such a good song!!

Others:

What Time is It?

Sheila E (3rd album)

The Family

Superconductor

8 & 16

Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.

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Reply #9 posted 11/21/23 10:59am

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Poplife88 said:

Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.


No. They're not on the label, nor did he have input on their records. If that's the rules, then you'd have to include both Brownmark albums, Apollonia's solo record, fDeluxe's two albums, Bobby Z's album, Dr. Fink's album, Jesse Johnson's albums, Morris Day's solo records, anything Jam & Lewis has done, Monte Moir's album, etc.

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Reply #10 posted 11/21/23 1:18pm

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:



Poplife88 said:



Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.




No. They're not on the label, nor did he have input on their records. If that's the rules, then you'd have to include both Brownmark albums, Apollonia's solo record, fDeluxe's two albums, Bobby Z's album, Dr. Fink's album, Jesse Johnson's albums, Morris Day's solo records, anything Jam & Lewis has done, Monte Moir's album, etc.



Off topic: Dr. Fink's son does music now...he's actually not bad...his "stage" name is MVXMILLI
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Reply #11 posted 11/24/23 1:13pm

Factor1

Top 5
1. What Time Is It?
2. The Family
3. Jill Jones
4. The Time
5. Ice Cream Castles
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Reply #12 posted 11/25/23 2:36am

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1. Jill Jones

2. Exodus

3. Vanity 6

4. The Time

5. The Family

6. 16

7. Eixer

8. The Glamorous Life

9. Apollonia 6

10. Carmen Electra

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Reply #13 posted 11/29/23 5:10am

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TrivialPursuit said:

Poplife88 said:

Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.


No. They're not on the label, nor did he have input on their records. If that's the rules, then you'd have to include both Brownmark albums, Apollonia's solo record, fDeluxe's two albums, Bobby Z's album, Dr. Fink's album, Jesse Johnson's albums, Morris Day's solo records, anything Jam & Lewis has done, Monte Moir's album, etc.

Makes sense. I was about to include Jesse's first album as I still play that one from time to time (lol).

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Reply #14 posted 12/01/23 1:59am

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Poplife88 said:



Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.


Wendy and Lisa's first album wasnt Eroica...it was the self titled album "Wendy and Lisa"...no they dont count🤣
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 12/01/23 6:15am

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toots said:

Poplife88 said:



Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.


Wendy and Lisa's first album wasnt Eroica...it was the self titled album "Wendy and Lisa"...no they dont count🤣


Y’all need to chill…
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Reply #16 posted 12/02/23 1:23am

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Poplife88 said:

toots said:


Wendy and Lisa's first album wasnt Eroica...it was the self titled album "Wendy and Lisa"...no they dont count🤣


Y’all need to chill…

falloff i havent posted any posts for over a YEAR and you tell me to chill...that is very funny..
Next time before posting you like their first album...maybe look and SEE what the actual title was..was merely stating a FACT! lol YOU stated in your reply post #8 it was... I corrected you lol
[Edited 12/2/23 1:39am]
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #17 posted 12/02/23 9:31am

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toots said:

Poplife88 said:
Y’all need to chill…
falloff i havent posted any posts for over a YEAR and you tell me to chill...that is very funny.. Next time before posting you like their first album...maybe look and SEE what the actual title was..was merely stating a FACT! lol YOU stated in your reply post #8 it was... I corrected you lol [Edited 12/2/23 1:39am]

eek Wow. sad Let's love W&L and let it be wink

[Edited 12/2/23 9:34am]

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Reply #18 posted 12/05/23 8:51am

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toots said:

Poplife88 said:



Do Wendy & Lisa albums count? I love their first one and Eroica.


Wendy and Lisa's first album wasnt Eroica...it was the self titled album "Wendy and Lisa"...no they dont count🤣

If you can read, poplife clearly
says their FIRST album
AND Eroica.
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Reply #19 posted 12/05/23 9:43am

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toots said:

Poplife88 said:

Wendy and Lisa's first album wasnt Eroica...it was the self titled album "Wendy and Lisa"...no they dont count🤣


But they said, "first one AND Eroica."

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Reply #20 posted 12/05/23 10:55am

RJOrion

toots said:

Poplife88 said:



Y’all need to chill…

falloff i havent posted any posts for over a YEAR and you tell me to chill...that is very funny..
Next time before posting you like their first album...maybe look and SEE what the actual title was..was merely stating a FACT! lol YOU stated in your reply post #8 it was... I corrected you lol
[Edited 12/2/23 1:39am]



How about you dont post again for another year...maybe work on your reading skills and your eyesight in the meantime
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Reply #21 posted 12/06/23 8:05am

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lol ^RJ! You stuck the landing!!!

Actually, RE: Wendy & Lisa, "Are You My Baby" from 'Fruit At The Bottom' is based on a groove that Prince made.

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #22 posted 12/11/23 9:35am

CoolMF

Top 5:

1 What Time Is It?

2 The Family

3 The Time

4 GCS2000

5 Apollonia 6

*Don't know how I feel about Exodus as a "protege" or "Prince-spin off" album (same with the Madhouses) so I didn't include it on my list

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