Anyone catch her with Duane Tuhdal last night on her podcast ?

paisleyparkgirl said:

Anyone catch her with Duane Tuhdal last night on her podcast ?

This was uncomfortable to watch. She's still pretty angry. I wouldn't be shocked if some of her thoughts or words contributed to those songs. Prince was pretty shady during this era when it came to credits. And it would explain her cartoon hate for Sheila after all this time.

I think what people are misunderstanding is... the Glamorous Life persona described in the songs are her, and she showed Prince all that fancy Hollywood... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it lingerie". I totally believe her

Cinny said:

I think what people are misunderstanding is... the Glamorous Life persona described in the songs are her, and she showed Prince all that fancy Hollywood... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it lingerie". I totally believe her

I believe her too but inspiring and co-writing aren't the same thing.

Cinny said:

I think what people are misunderstanding is... the Glamorous Life persona described in the songs are her, and she showed Prince all that fancy Hollywood... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it lingerie". I totally believe her

I've always felt like the glamorous life was about Vanity.

It's like what Wendy said (per vague memory) in that dvd extra interview, "...did we write 'Purple Rain'? No, but we helped it's evolution..."

Jill said it best, everyone was a small piece of Prince's great masterplan...but it was still Prince's masterplan.

paisleyparkgirl said:

Cinny said:

I think what people are misunderstanding is... the Glamorous Life persona described in the songs are her, and she showed Prince all that fancy Hollywood... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it lingerie". I totally believe her

I've always felt like the glamorous life was about Vanity.

That's like saying Sheila E made the lemon cake, not Roy Bennett!

nayroo2002 said:

It's like what Wendy said (per vague memory) in that dvd extra interview, "...did we write 'Purple Rain'? No, but we helped it's evolution..."

I think they wrote chord changes

Apples didn't write anything. She lives in La-La Land.

FrankieCoco1 said:

I think Duane was very diplomatic in discussing what is the difference between writing a song/book and using ideas you’ve heard to inspire things. Did all the interviewees he spoke with write his books…no but without them, there’d be no book or a less readable one. Likewise, without his inspirations, Prince’s music would be less inspired…but he wrote it (with the odd minor steal).

Yes, he handled that perfectly. So uncool when they pulled out supposed receipts and put him on the spot like that.

ok i'm gonna jump out on a limb and say this, because it's funny...

when she said she was out side with the boom box screaming I wrote this song! and she knew he herd her

i pictured Prince and Sheila E. chilling out in the living room, after a super long day of rehearsals, having macaroni and cheese, and lemon cake.

watching the 3 stooges

and Sheila with her spidey senses perks up and says "is that bitch outside again?!" as Prince taking a bite of that lemon cake, grabs the remote control turning up the volumb

saying, "wait what? what are you talking about" Sheila grabs the remote and presses mute. in the distant background you can hear Apples screaming "That's my Soonnng!" Sheila rolling her eyes ,"You hear that shit? That gurl is so stupid" so full of confidence, She says to Prince. Prince with a look of yuck on face, spits out the lemon cake, saying "damn that's salty."

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and to finish...

he looks over at Sheila and says "S. A. L. T. Salt, Not Sugar Sheila"

and Sheila stunned, confused and surprised when she gets it says "Fuck you Nigga, that's it I'm out of here,

I'm gonnin home!" Prince all serious at himself watching her gather up her things, mimics the lake scene in Purple Rain he yells out "hey wait a minute!" she says "What?!" and he replies "That ain't sugar Sheila" as he falls down rolling on the floor.

She's supper pissed now "Fuck You!" she screams and storms out, she then hopes in her blue mercedes and drives down

the drive way and see's Apple's. "Come on gurl, lets get out of here."

Apples gets in and they drive off down Sunset Blvd, laughing and carry on, Apples says to Sheila "Gurl I know he used to do shit for ya, but what has he done for you lately"

when all of a sudden The Glamours Life comes on the radio for the first time

and the both are freaking out... "That's my song! That's my song!" Sheila screams estatically

"That's my song! That's MYYYY Song!" Screams Apples, with equal excitement.

Sheila looks over at Apple's and say's "wait bitch... That's my song!"

not looking at where she was going slams into a car in front of them.

and they both jump out of the car screaming "That's My Song!" jumping up and

down in the streets. "That's my song!" they scream at each other in unison.

Meanwhile, in the other car... as she is looking at these fools, in the rear view mirror. She fixes her lipstick and whispers to herself, "These bitches." It's Denise also known as The Queen Mother, Vanity

stepping out of her mint 65 rambler, all calm and shi, waring that gorilla coat and nothing else ... with only one thing to say. "Why ya'll keep following me?, get in your own lane already!"

Sheila looking her up and down says "gurl what's up with your dress?"

The Queen mother points over to the dude in the passanger seat... It's Donnie Simpson screaming in pain, he just got his 6" or more stuck in his zipper.

she says "he made such a pretty mess of my dress hoooo yeah, such a pretty"

Sheila sucking her teeth, "ttthhhhhhhttt listen Monica, tells this bitch That's my song!"

Apples then chimes in..... "nnooo That's my song!" now all 3 of them are in the streets yelling back and forth... "that's my song!"

meanwhile, Prince rolls up in his little red corvette, with Morris Day, who is laughing his ass off "oh lord, such nastieness, let's go"

suddenly the car phone rings... Prince answers, "Hello, Hello, Helloooo." it's Sheena, "Come spend the night inside my sugar walls" she says.

Prince looks over at Morris and says, "Get out!"

Morris now standing in the mist of "Vanity 6" screaming at each other "that's my song!" as prince says to him, "i'll meet you at the club in 2 hours" and speeds off down the road.

"You mutha fucka, you long head Faggot!" morris screams. Now all 3 of the girls are surrounding him, in the middle of the street, singing off key, "that's my song"

Morris trying to cover his ears screams outs "hhhhhhaaaaa caa ca caaaa"

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Muse 2 The Pharoah???

woogiebear said:

Muse 2 The Pharoah???

https://soundcloud.com/th...ningsketch

eduJ said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

I think Duane was very diplomatic in discussing what is the difference between writing a song/book and using ideas you’ve heard to inspire things. Did all the interviewees he spoke with write his books…no but without them, there’d be no book or a less readable one. Likewise, without his inspirations, Prince’s music would be less inspired…but he wrote it (with the odd minor steal).

Yes, he handled that perfectly. So uncool when they pulled out supposed receipts and put him on the spot like that.

Handled perfectly and jokes aside, Duane's books are my "final answer" on any claims like this. Brown Mark also had some interesting stories but also stated them very diplomatically (considering!).

eduJ said:

Cinny said:

I think what people are misunderstanding is... the Glamorous Life persona described in the songs are her, and she showed Prince all that fancy Hollywood... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it lingerie". I totally believe her

I believe her too but inspiring and co-writing aren't the same thing.

It isn't the same, but things she said were probably quoted. Paul McCartney said Ringo was always saying phrases in conversation they put into their songs like "a hard day's night".

dreamfirstborn said:

and to finish...

he looks over at Sheila and says "S. A. L. T. Salt, Not Sugar Sheila"

and Sheila stunned, confused and surprised when she gets it says "Fuck you Nigga, that's it I'm out of here,

I'm gonnin home!" Prince all serious at himself watching her gather up her things, mimics the lake scene in Purple Rain he yells out "hey wait a minute!" she says "What?!" and he replies "That ain't sugar Sheila" as he falls down rolling on the floor.

She's supper pissed now "Fuck You!" she screams and storms out, she then hopes in her blue mercedes and drives down

the drive way and see's Apple's. "Come on gurl, lets get out of here."

Apples gets in and they drive off down Sunset Blvd, laughing and carry on, Apples says to Sheila "Gurl I know he used to do shit for ya, but what has he done for you lately"

when all of a sudden The Glamours Life comes on the radio for the first time

and the both are freaking out... "That's my song! That's my song!" Sheila screams estatically

"That's my song! That's MYYYY Song!" Screams Apples, with equal excitement.

Sheila looks over at Apple's and say's "wait bitch... That's my song!"

not looking at where she was going slams into a car in front of them.

and they both jump out of the car screaming "That's My Song!" jumping up and

down in the streets. "That's my song!" they scream at each other in unison.

Meanwhile, in the other car... as she is looking at these fools, in the rear view mirror. She fixes her lipstick and whispers to herself, "These bitches." It's Denise also known as The Queen Mother, Vanity

stepping out of her mint 65 rambler, all calm and shi, waring that gorilla coat and nothing else ... with only one thing to say. "Why ya'll keep following me?, get in your own lane already!"

Sheila looking her up and down says "gurl what's up with your dress?"

The Queen mother points over to the dude in the passanger seat... It's Donnie Simpson screaming in pain, he just got his 6" or more stuck in his zipper.

she says "he made such a pretty mess of my dress hoooo yeah, such a pretty"

Sheila sucking her teeth, "ttthhhhhhhttt listen Monica, tells this bitch That's my song!"

Apples then chimes in..... "nnooo That's my song!" now all 3 of them are in the streets yelling back and forth... "that's my song!"

meanwhile, Prince rolls up in his little red corvette, with Morris Day, who is laughing his ass off "oh lord, such nastieness, let's go"

suddenly the car phone rings... Prince answers, "Hello, Hello, Helloooo." it's Sheena, "Come spend the night inside my sugar walls" she says.

Prince looks over at Morris and says, "Get out!"

Morris now standing in the mist of "Vanity 6" screaming at each other "that's my song!" as prince says to him, "i'll meet you at the club in 2 hours" and speeds off down the road.

"You mutha fucka, you long head Faggot!" morris screams. Now all 3 of the girls are surrounding him, in the middle of the street, singing off key, "that's my song"

Morris trying to cover his ears screams outs "hhhhhhaaaaa caa ca caaaa"

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This is BRILLIANT!

Except it should be "7 inches" not 6 .

And wha'ts the SALT reference?

GaryMF said:

dreamfirstborn said:

and to finish...

he looks over at Sheila and says "S. A. L. T. Salt, Not Sugar Sheila"

and Sheila stunned, confused and surprised when she gets it says "Fuck you Nigga, that's it I'm out of here,

I'm gonnin home!" Prince all serious at himself watching her gather up her things, mimics the lake scene in Purple Rain he yells out "hey wait a minute!" she says "What?!" and he replies "That ain't sugar Sheila" as he falls down rolling on the floor.

She's supper pissed now "Fuck You!" she screams and storms out, she then hopes in her blue mercedes and drives down

the drive way and see's Apple's. "Come on gurl, lets get out of here."

Apples gets in and they drive off down Sunset Blvd, laughing and carry on, Apples says to Sheila "Gurl I know he used to do shit for ya, but what has he done for you lately"

when all of a sudden The Glamours Life comes on the radio for the first time

and the both are freaking out... "That's my song! That's my song!" Sheila screams estatically

"That's my song! That's MYYYY Song!" Screams Apples, with equal excitement.

Sheila looks over at Apple's and say's "wait bitch... That's my song!"

not looking at where she was going slams into a car in front of them.

and they both jump out of the car screaming "That's My Song!" jumping up and

down in the streets. "That's my song!" they scream at each other in unison.

Meanwhile, in the other car... as she is looking at these fools, in the rear view mirror. She fixes her lipstick and whispers to herself, "These bitches." It's Denise also known as The Queen Mother, Vanity

stepping out of her mint 65 rambler, all calm and shi, waring that gorilla coat and nothing else ... with only one thing to say. "Why ya'll keep following me?, get in your own lane already!"

Sheila looking her up and down says "gurl what's up with your dress?"

The Queen mother points over to the dude in the passanger seat... It's Donnie Simpson screaming in pain, he just got his 6" or more stuck in his zipper.

she says "he made such a pretty mess of my dress hoooo yeah, such a pretty"

Sheila sucking her teeth, "ttthhhhhhhttt listen Monica, tells this bitch That's my song!"

Apples then chimes in..... "nnooo That's my song!" now all 3 of them are in the streets yelling back and forth... "that's my song!"

meanwhile, Prince rolls up in his little red corvette, with Morris Day, who is laughing his ass off "oh lord, such nastieness, let's go"

suddenly the car phone rings... Prince answers, "Hello, Hello, Helloooo." it's Sheena, "Come spend the night inside my sugar walls" she says.

Prince looks over at Morris and says, "Get out!"

Morris now standing in the mist of "Vanity 6" screaming at each other "that's my song!" as prince says to him, "i'll meet you at the club in 2 hours" and speeds off down the road.

"You mutha fucka, you long head Faggot!" morris screams. Now all 3 of the girls are surrounding him, in the middle of the street, singing off key, "that's my song"

Morris trying to cover his ears screams outs "hhhhhhaaaaa caa ca caaaa"

.

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This is BRILLIANT!

Except it should be "7 inches" not 6 .

And wha'ts the SALT reference?

yeAH it should have been 7 but it was to late i already pushed post. SALT reference is because Sheila claims she made Prince Lemon Cake, but instead of Sugar she put in Salt. which is why he spit it out saying it was to salty. Thanks for the feedback.

Oh well its her fault for letting him take her intellectual property. To make it worse Sheila's name is on the record as the songwriter so that caused a rift between them thats still there 40 years later

Why am I not believing anyone from this era of Prince on what they did for the most part.

SolaceAHA said:

Why am I not believing anyone from this era of Prince on what they did for the most part.

Order of believability...

Jiill Jones (Most)

Mayte

Brenda

Lisa

Wendy

Susannah

Sheila

Apollonia

Cat

Robin

Sinead (Least)

She didn't write shit. She knows it, we know it, and she knows we know it.

At first, I was on her side during the whole lemon cake drama. Sheila's been re-writing Princestory since she showed up at his funeral like the grieving widow, when she knows damn well he ousted her ass five or six years before, calling her a "psychopath." Oh, he proposed to you, Sheila? He didn't marry ya tho, did he? He married two other women and not one was yo' ass. Have all the seats, darling.

Back to the subject:

The Sunset Sound people asked someone else (David Z?) about who wrote that song, and it was clearly stated that Prince wrote it.

My thing with the diary was - if he tore the page out, get a pencil and burnish the page behind it. Is the imprint in there?! Is it her handwriting and those lyrics? (Probably not.)

I'm pretty surprised Jill Jones sat down w/ her on her (Apollonia's) podcast and talked about stuff, when Jill will just say any-fucking-thing to keep it real.

I don't know how this handful of people are re-telling stories to their favor. Like someone isn't going to fact-check that shit? Someone (singular or plural) will either back that up (like Roy and Brenda w/ Lemon Cake story) or dispute it. Who do they think they're fooling? Sheila damn near thinks she is Prince at this point, wearing his clothes, suddenly getting a tattoo, and using on all her gear and shit.

TrivialPursuit said:

Oh, he proposed to you, Sheila?

He mouthed "Marry Me!!" during an awesome stage performance. I think it was just an exaggerated compliment. I think Prince outed her on the org, anyway.

Cinny said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Oh, he proposed to you, Sheila?

He mouthed "Marry Me!!" during an awesome stage performance. I think it was just an exaggerated compliment. I think Prince outed her on the org, anyway.

I know that. My full statement was, "Oh, he proposed to you, Sheila? He didn't marry ya tho, did he?"

And you need to link that outing.

strongoxman1 said:

Honestly, I don't see the need for anyone to link to any specific "outing"; as a member of the LGBTQ community....

What are you going on about, sis? Who said anything about LGBTQ? Outing isn't an exclusively gay term.