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I Didn't Mean To Turn You On ~ Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

"Just don't give away our sound" - Jamie Starr

I love the energy of this song in both versions.
Made it feel like something exciting was about to happen.

The female expression and the masculine expression

The Minneapolis Sound and the direction Jimmy & Terry too was exciting

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Reply #1 posted 12/01/21 12:46pm

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I Didn't Mean To Turn You On · Cherrelle Fragile ℗ A Tabu Records

Release; ℗ 1984 UMG Recordings, Inc.

Released on: 1984-01-01

Producer, Associated Performer, Co- Arranger: Jimmy Jam Producer,

Associated Performer, Co- Arranger: Terry Lewis

Studio Personnel,

Recording Engineer: Steve Wiese

Studio Personnel, Recording Engineer, Mixer: Taavi Mote Composer

Lyricist: James Harris

Composer Lyricist: Terry Lewis

https://youtu.be/f1i_RJOCXVA

I Didn't Mean To Turn You On - YouTube

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (Special Remix)

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean... - YouTube

I Didn't Mean To Turn You On - YouTube

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Reply #2 posted 12/01/21 12:49pm

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Stream Cherrelle & Mariah Carey - I Didn't Mean To Turn You On @InitialTalk  by Initial Talk 6.0 (alt.) | Listen online for free on SoundCloud

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Reply #3 posted 12/01/21 4:11pm

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What about Robert Palmer? smile

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Reply #4 posted 12/01/21 11:06pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I Didn't Mean To Turn You On · Cherrelle Fragile ℗ A Tabu Records

Release; ℗ 1984 UMG Recordings, Inc.

Released on: 1984-01-01

Producer, Associated Performer, Co- Arranger: Jimmy Jam Producer,

Associated Performer, Co- Arranger: Terry Lewis

Studio Personnel,

Recording Engineer: Steve Wiese

Studio Personnel, Recording Engineer, Mixer: Taavi Mote Composer

Lyricist: James Harris

Composer Lyricist: Terry Lewis

https://youtu.be/f1i_RJOCXVA

I Didn't Mean To Turn You On - YouTube

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (Special Remix)

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean... - YouTube

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the orginal/album version is good.. but the "special remix" version is the 1 that I play 95% of the time..

& I love that part towards the end where they play the music "backwards"

I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #5 posted 12/02/21 1:11am

SoulAlive

This is my favorite Jam and Lewis track headbang what a groove! Takes me right back to the spring/summer of '84.

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Reply #6 posted 12/02/21 1:16am

SoulAlive

official music video

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean... - YouTube

smile I like the King Kong theme

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Reply #7 posted 12/02/21 5:35am

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MickyDolenz said:

What about Robert Palmer? smile

He's going to be in this too

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Reply #8 posted 12/02/21 7:05am

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Robert Palmer - I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (Extended Dance Mix)

Extended Dance Mix from a 12" of "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On". The pic is from the Japanese "best of" LP "Robert Palmer: File 1986".

Robert Palmer - I Didn't ... - YouTube

https://youtu.be/Fh_S8EJnRv0

Robert Palmer – I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (1986, SP - Specialty  Pressing, Vinyl) - Discogs

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Reply #9 posted 12/02/21 6:58pm

SoulAlive

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol
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Reply #10 posted 12/02/21 7:28pm

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SoulAlive said:

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol

lol I always thought it was a cool male version / female version, very 80s and something I could easily see Prince singing lol he actually had lyrics like that

easily a conversation from a man to a woman

When I took you out
I knew what you were all about
But when I did
I didn't mean to turn you on
Now I bring you home
You told me goodnight's not enough for you
I'm sorry baby
I didn't mean to turn you on
No, I didn't mean to turn you on
You read me wrong
I wasn't trying to lead you on
Not like you think
I didn't mean to turn you on
I know you
Were expecting a one night stand
When I refused
I knew you wouldn't understand
I told you twice
I was only trying to be nice
Only trying to be nice
Ooh, I didn't mean to turn you on
Babe now why should I
Feel guilty 'cause I won't give
Guilty 'cause I won't give in
I didn't mean to turn you on
Ooh, I didn't mean to turn you on
When I took you out
Iknew what you were all about
But when I did
I didn't mean to turn you on
No, I didn't mean to turn you on
I didn't mean to turn you on....
I didn't mean to turn you on....
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Reply #11 posted 12/02/21 7:44pm

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Jimmy: And yeah, that’s one of my favorite Terry Lewis baselines ever on that song. That’s funky. But yeah, we started doing that and then we started getting things even expanded because we started doing things like “The Heat of Heat” for Patti Austin. We did, of course, Alexander O’Neal and Cherrelle “Saturday Love” and those records. So yeah, I mean, we met Clarence Avant that was SOS band and then Cherrelle, and then, you know, we did “Didn’t Mean to Turn You On” with Cherrelle. So yeah, things ramped up really quickly, but it was interesting because there was a columnist in Minneapolis named John Breen who was, did kind of our first kind of interview.

Jimmy: And the other thing too that was important was that we were working with Cherrelle on the first Cherrelle record and we were in LA and you know, the studio costs were crazy. And that was the other thing there, she felt a lot of pressure because she’d been a background singer, not so much a lead singer and we felt like if we could get her in a comfortable environment that would be great. So going to Minneapolis, we started working in this little studio in a basement of a house, but it was just this very little studio, but there was no pressure of, oh, we got to get stuff done. And I remember the very first record when we walked into that studio. The very first record we did was ‘Didn’t Mean To Turn You On.

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Reply #12 posted 12/03/21 7:30am

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SoulAlive said:

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol


Makes more sense for a famous singer.
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Reply #13 posted 12/03/21 12:33pm

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MickyDolenz said:

What about Robert Palmer? smile


Frankly, I sort of prefer Palmer's version. There's a syncopated funkiness to it that gives it a new flavor. The original is pure Jam/Lewis production (which I just don't think is that Prince-like, honestly). But Palmer's is cheeky with a bit of braggadocio thrown in for good measure.

It's sorta meant to be ironic. "Oh, sorry, did your panties drop when I walked by? Sorry 'bout it!"

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #14 posted 12/03/21 12:56pm

SoulAlive

It's hard to imagine a man turning down a one-night stand lol I think the song works better coming from a woman's point of view

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol

lol I always thought it was a cool male version / female version,

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Reply #15 posted 12/04/21 9:00am

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It is just an amazing song, I love both versions a lot, but prefer the Cherrelle version with all of it's synthesizer/drummachine madness! cool

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Reply #16 posted 12/04/21 10:54pm

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Is Mariah's remake using hte same orginal tracks as Cherelle's? They sound exactly the same to me.

Robert Palmer performed this on Letterman or some show like that and the live version had more of the Jam & Lewis sounding synths.

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Reply #17 posted 12/05/21 1:25pm

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GaryMF said:

Is Mariah's remake using hte same orginal tracks as Cherelle's? They sound exactly the same to me.


She did sing over the original track. She's listed as a producer likely because of the vocal arrangements.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #18 posted 12/07/21 6:42am

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if she was ugly? unattractive? he found out something about her?

if he finds out she's crazy, will try to get pregnant, set him up etc

SoulAlive said:

It's hard to imagine a man turning down a one-night stand lol I think the song works better coming from a woman's point of view

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol I always thought it was a cool male version / female version,

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Reply #19 posted 12/07/21 9:52am

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Man I need the multi tracks for this tune. My goodness it deserves a 10 minute opus.

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Reply #20 posted 12/08/21 9:52pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Man I need the multi tracks for this tune. My goodness it deserves a 10 minute opus.

Yeah. I tried to learn this for my band and it sounds like it's really the same synth riff over and over and over, but somehow they make it sound so much more complex with the layering of all the synths etc.

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Reply #21 posted 12/09/21 6:38am

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That is such an 80s album cover lol everything was fun even when it was dark lol

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GaryMF said:

paisleypark4 said:

Man I need the multi tracks for this tune. My goodness it deserves a 10 minute opus.

Yeah. I tried to learn this for my band and it sounds like it's really the same synth riff over and over and over, but somehow they make it sound so much more complex with the layering of all the synths etc.

The synth bass line is everything. It seems there are at least 4 different synth patterns going on. How far did you get learning the song?

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paisleypark4 said:

GaryMF said:

Yeah. I tried to learn this for my band and it sounds like it's really the same synth riff over and over and over, but somehow they make it sound so much more complex with the layering of all the synths etc.

The synth bass line is everything. It seems there are at least 4 different synth patterns going on. How far did you get learning the song?

i just did the main riff, i dont remember the chords now but it was like da, da, DUH-duh, duh, DUH, duh. (if that makes sense). there's another since that plays like a "curly-cue" line at the last synth chord each time but i don't think i tried to do that one

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TrivialPursuit said:

MickyDolenz said:

What about Robert Palmer? smile


Frankly, I sort of prefer Palmer's version. There's a syncopated funkiness to it that gives it a new flavor. The original is pure Jam/Lewis production (which I just don't think is that Prince-like, honestly). But Palmer's is cheeky with a bit of braggadocio thrown in for good measure.

I personally love Robert Palmer's version with the duet with B. J. Nelson.

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Reply #25 posted 12/13/21 1:09pm

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GaryMF said:

paisleypark4 said:

The synth bass line is everything. It seems there are at least 4 different synth patterns going on. How far did you get learning the song?

i just did the main riff, i dont remember the chords now but it was like da, da, DUH-duh, duh, DUH, duh. (if that makes sense). there's another since that plays like a "curly-cue" line at the last synth chord each time but i don't think i tried to do that one

That is the main part so good enough yeah. There is a jazz version I heard by the Smooth Jazz that pretty much just follows that successfully. They did all her songs jazz style actually.See the source image

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Reply #26 posted 12/13/21 4:38pm

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paisleypark4 said:

GaryMF said:

i just did the main riff, i dont remember the chords now but it was like da, da, DUH-duh, duh, DUH, duh. (if that makes sense). there's another since that plays like a "curly-cue" line at the last synth chord each time but i don't think i tried to do that one

That is the main part so good enough yeah. There is a jazz version I heard by the Smooth Jazz that pretty much just follows that successfully. They did all her songs jazz style actually.See the source image

interesting will have to chekc it out. I haven't been playing with band since Covid sad but maybe here was like a change to a differen chord right at the chorus or pre-chorus but using the same riff pattern, and I think I would also do that line the guitar does as single notes that kinda follows the melody for "Didn't meant to turn you o-o-on'"

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Reply #27 posted 12/15/21 2:55pm

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SoulAlive said:

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol

The hell it does. I've had plenty of bastards tell me the same mess that's in those lyrics at the end of the night. evillol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #28 posted 12/16/21 2:44pm

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vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

I didn’t really like the Robert Palmer remake.It just seems silly for a man to be singing these lyrics lol

The hell it does. I've had plenty of bastards tell me the same mess that's in those lyrics at the end of the night. evillol

lol

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Reply #29 posted 12/23/21 9:08am

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Cherrelle's voice wasn't very strong but her first two Jam & Lewis produced albums were packed full of great songs that really worked well with her voice. Not sure why they didn't stick with her for her third and final Tabu album. That flopped big time.

I like both Cherrelle and Robert's versions. They both brought a different energy to the song. But Cherrelle is definately the more superior version. I never cared for Mariah's version. I think I would have liked it more if she hadn't have used the original Cherrelle track.

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