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Reply #30 posted 03/29/21 7:57pm

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Rosie spent much of 1992 and 1993 working on her solo album.Prince was heavily involved.It was finally given a release date (March 1994) but unfortunately,Warners shut down Paisley Park Records around that time.Rosie was pissed.In a mid-90s interview,she said “My album didn’t come out because I wasn’t sleeping with Prince” eek I think she was implying that more attention was given to Carmen Elektra and she wasn’t happy about that.


it would have been better for him to focus more on the Rosie record and give her a few more killer tunes since people already knew and liked her from the Diamonds & Pearls album which sold so many millions of copies and had put her right there in people's homes and minds. Another marketing fumble. He just moved too quickly and always grew tired too soon with (often) great ideas and projects.






I agree,Prince should have made Rosie’s album a priority at Paisley Park.He should have given her an amazing track like “Open Book” to launch her solo career with.Too much time and money was wasted on that Carmen Elektra album which went absolutely nowhere.
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Reply #31 posted 03/30/21 2:53am

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I think Rosie’s time with the NPG was too brief.She is one of the best things about the Diamonds and Pearls album.Her vocals really ignited many of those songs.


Rosie did return for both the Chaos and Disorder album and 'Jam of the Year' (from Emancipation) in 1996 and guested on-stage with Prince quite prominently at the Rave Un2 the Year 2000 concert in 1999, so there must have been some kind of reconciliation.
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Reply #32 posted 03/30/21 3:47am

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I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.



I thought it was always said that she left the band before he started to compile that album and wasn't on vocals for any of those songs? Do you know where you heard/read/got that information?


I read it somewhere many years ago. Can't recall where but it lodged in my memory being a Rosie fan. To be honest I hope it's not true. If she contributed to the album it seems even more shitty of P not to work things out with her. I guess we'll all know in time if a Superdeluxe comes out or a Tudahl type book emerges. sad

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Reply #33 posted 04/03/21 1:12am

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Reply #34 posted 04/03/21 6:39am

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RJOrion said:

werent there stories that Tony M, Damon & Wally were treating her badly, and picking on her about her weight?...and that Prince wouldnt protect her from them?

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.



^^This.


I love me some Rosie and she was done so wrong. I don't think she ever got over it completely.


Ro James is her nephew. She was in bad shape for a long time but a couple of months ago he said she was doing a little better.


It's sad.

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Reply #35 posted 04/03/21 9:30am

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After reading through the Princevault bio, it was staggering to see how much she endured in her life.

Being one of the younger daughters of 10, father stabbed when she was 4, having a child at 13.

Then she had to deal with the music industry and all of that BS.

I didn't know she sang at some very cool places in Oakland and SF, Yoshi's of Oakland and the Warfield Theatre in SF.

Her voice was transcendent.

I guess Prince came in at the 11th hour to offer financial support after a group of bay area musicians were trying to help.

So much trauma in her life.

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Reply #36 posted 04/08/21 7:16am

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Haha!! This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did!!


RJOrion said:[/quote] dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you[/quote]
[Edited 4/8/21 7:22am]
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Reply #37 posted 04/08/21 5:09pm

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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Haha!! This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did!! RJOrion said:

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you [Edited 4/8/21 7:22am]

RJ is a fun guy.

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Reply #38 posted 04/08/21 7:01pm

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lol



RJOrion said:


Margot said:



Such a tragic story...what was the value-add of the Game Boyz? A bunch of no-talents clogging up the stage IMO.



dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you



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Reply #39 posted 04/09/21 9:17pm

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Margot said:

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Haha!! This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did!! RJOrion said:

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you [Edited 4/8/21 7:22am]

RJ is a fun guy.

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Reply #40 posted 04/10/21 7:21pm

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RJOrion said:



Margot said:




coldcoffeeandcocacola said:


Haha!! This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did!! RJOrion said:

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you [Edited 4/8/21 7:22am]




RJ is a fun guy.





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Look at curry man!
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Reply #41 posted 04/12/21 5:49am

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RJOrion said:

Margot said:

Such a tragic story...what was the value-add of the Game Boyz? A bunch of no-talents clogging up the stage IMO.

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you

eek biggrin lol

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Reply #42 posted 04/12/21 6:12am

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RJOrion said:



Margot said:




coldcoffeeandcocacola said:


Haha!! This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did!! RJOrion said:

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you [Edited 4/8/21 7:22am]




RJ is a fun guy.





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Look at curry man!


Curry?... no, thats Kawhi Leonard...the man who described himself as "a fun guy", in his now legendary press conference.
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Reply #43 posted 04/12/21 6:27pm

Margot

RJOrion said:

heartpeacesheart said:
Look at curry man!
Curry?... no, thats Kawhi Leonard...the man who described himself as "a fun guy", in his now legendary press conference.

Is Kawhi fun???

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Reply #44 posted 04/12/21 6:47pm

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Margot said:



RJOrion said:


heartpeacesheart said:
Look at curry man!

Curry?... no, thats Kawhi Leonard...the man who described himself as "a fun guy", in his now legendary press conference.


Is Kawhi fun???



let him tell it, he is... but he's incredibly stoic and emotionless on-court though... very similar to past NBA legends Julius "Dr.J" Erving and Walt "Clyde" Frazier
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Reply #45 posted 04/13/21 8:09am

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RJOrion said:

Margot said:

Is Kawhi fun???

let him tell it, he is... but he's incredibly stoic and emotionless on-court though... very similar to past NBA legends Julius "Dr.J" Erving and Walt "Clyde" Frazier

Maybe that's it...I'm thinking Curry, Chris Paul, and Dray are fun. (I guess not everyone thinks Dray is fun, though)

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Reply #46 posted 04/13/21 9:33am

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Margot said:

RJOrion said:

Margot said: let him tell it, he is... but he's incredibly stoic and emotionless on-court though... very similar to past NBA legends Julius "Dr.J" Erving and Walt "Clyde" Frazier

Maybe that's it...I'm thinking Curry, Chris Paul, and Dray are fun. (I guess not everyone thinks Dray is fun, though)

chris paul isnt "fun" either...he plays with an angry edge to his game...its what the analysts call a "bulldog mentality"...at times provoking his opponents to anger and throwing hands ...Rajon Rondo even spit in his face as they squared up to throw hands..

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