She was such an asset to the D&P album and tour. Did she have a falling out with Prince? I think I remember Prince saying back in the day he wouldn't sing D&P the song unless Rosie was there. Also she sang on a few future songs and was working on a solo Paisley Park album. So it seems Prince loved her voice. But it seemed all of sudden she was out of the mix. Sorry if this is old news, but listening to D&P now made me wonder.

Rosie wanted to do her own thing after D&P. She worked on her album at Paisley Park and there weren't any issues between her and Prince.

Poplife88 said:

She was such an asset to the D&P album and tour. Did she have a falling out with Prince? I think I remember Prince saying back in the day he wouldn't sing D&P the song unless Rosie was there. Also she sang on a few future songs and was working on a solo Paisley Park album. So it seems Prince loved her voice. But it seemed all of sudden she was out of the mix. Sorry if this is old news, but listening to D&P now made me wonder.

You've been here for hundreds of months, surely you know the story by now?

https://youtu.be/i3ubsTEEJ14

Why Rosie Gaines Left Prince and the NPG - New Power Generation

nayroo2002 said:

Poplife88 said:

She was such an asset to the D&P album and tour. Did she have a falling out with Prince? I think I remember Prince saying back in the day he wouldn't sing D&P the song unless Rosie was there. Also she sang on a few future songs and was working on a solo Paisley Park album. So it seems Prince loved her voice. But it seemed all of sudden she was out of the mix. Sorry if this is old news, but listening to D&P now made me wonder.

You've been here for hundreds of months, surely you know the story by now?

OldFriends4Sale said:

https://youtu.be/i3ubsTEEJ14

Why Rosie Gaines Left Prince and the NPG - New Power Generation

Thanks

FYI...to address the snarky response. D&P and Symbol are the low points of my Prince-fandom. Never been a huge fan of this era and, at the time, didn't pay much attention. Ask me about 79 to 88, then 95 and onward. A bit of black hole for me during the early 90s.

Poplife88 said:

Empress said:

Poplife88 said:

FYI...to address the snarky response. D&P and Symbol are the low points of my Prince-fandom. Never been a huge fan of this era and, at the time, didn't pay much attention. Ask me about 79 to 88, then 95 and onward. A bit of black hole for me during the early 90s.

That's too bad. Those 2 albums are fantastic and so much fun to listen to. I still listen to them regularly today.

I've been re-visiting them the past few weeks as I saw D&P is the next in line for the deluxe treatment. I can't remember the last time I listened to either in their entirety (thus the ignorance about what happened in this era). But I'm liking D&P much more than Symbol...and I think its due to Rosie's presence. Symbol is just a bloated mess imo and I REALLY miss her voice. I do like some of the songs more than I remember, but as a whole I don't think I will ever warm up to that one.

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they worked together after that though, didn't they? she's also on Chaos & Disorder and Emancipation

She was done wrong. Loved her voice.

Anyone know how she's doing? She was very ill (diabetes) several years ago.

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SoulAlive said:

Rosie spent much of 1992 and 1993 working on her solo album.Prince was heavily involved.It was finally given a release date (March 1994) but unfortunately,Warners shut down Paisley Park Records around that time.Rosie was pissed.In a mid-90s interview,she said “My album didn’t come out because I wasn’t sleeping with Prince” I think she was implying that more attention was given to Carmen Elektra and she wasn’t happy about that.

it would have been better for him to focus more on the Rosie record and give her a few more killer tunes since people already knew and liked her from the Diamonds & Pearls album which sold so many millions of copies and had put her right there in people's homes and minds. Another marketing fumble. He just moved too quickly and always grew tired too soon with (often) great ideas and projects.

LILpoundCAKE said:

Margot said:

RJOrion said:

Margot said:

She was done wrong. Loved her voice.

Anyone know how she's doing? She was very ill (diabetes) several years ago.

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i was wondering the same thing...at one point, media releases were painting the picture that she was in very dire straits...but i havent heard a word about her since...

Last I heard the purple alumni were raising funds to help her. I think she lives w/her daughter in Pittsburg, CA (Outer east bay area)??

RJOrion said:

werent there stories that Tony M, Damon & Wally were treating her badly, and picking on her about her weight?...and that Prince wouldnt protect her from them?

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

kookooman73 said:

RJOrion said:

kookooman73 said:

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

wow... thats all so sad... ive alwas been a BIG Rosie Gaines fan too, and i thought she deserved to have a prosperous solo career with or without Prince... its a shame to see that her immense talent (and beauty) wasnt nurtured, supported and promoted properly

A broken heart...

kookooman73 said:

RJOrion said:

werent there stories that Tony M, Damon & Wally were treating her badly, and picking on her about her weight?...and that Prince wouldnt protect her from them?

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

Such a tragic story...what was the value-add of the Game Boyz? A bunch of no-talents clogging up the stage IMO.

Margot said:

RJOrion said:

Margot said:

Such a tragic story...what was the value-add of the Game Boyz? A bunch of no-talents clogging up the stage IMO.

dont let Kirk Johnson hear/see you say that...he'll send Dr.Schulenberg after you

kookooman73 said:

RJOrion said:

werent there stories that Tony M, Damon & Wally were treating her badly, and picking on her about her weight?...and that Prince wouldnt protect her from them?

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

I thought it was always said that she left the band before he started to compile that album and wasn't on vocals for any of those songs? Do you know where you heard/read/got that information?

LILpoundCAKE said:

kookooman73 said:

I read that also years ago tho. The Game Boyz were jealous of her increased involvement in the live shows where P was giving her more solo's etc. They teased & called her names then gave her the silent treatment. She was the only female in the band apart from Mayte (who was very young & with P constantly) & therefore felt ostracised. She complained to P who did jack shit about it. Then there was the promised solo album. Loads of material recorded but no release. She was in the NPG for three years & is a multi instrumentalist with a multi octave voice. P should've pushed & promoted her more but when Carmen Electra came along all focus shifted. Warner's initially passed on Carmen's album & it was rumoured that P spent a million dollars of his own money on the video for 'Go Go Dancer' alone. That surely rubbed salt in Rosie's wounds. I love Rosie Gaines & have always thought the situation with P was a huge mistake on his part. When she left he erased her vocals from the Symbol album. Hopefully we will hear these versions someday. P's version of 'I Hear Your Voice' featuring Rosie & her version of 'Pain' are on YouTube. Phenomenal tracks that should of been released years ago.

She then had moderate solo success with her 'Closer Than Close' remix but apparently the producers cut & run & she saw no money from this. Can't help but wonder if all of these situations contributed greatly to her mental health problems. It's really sad.

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

I thought it was always said that she left the band before he started to compile that album and wasn't on vocals for any of those songs? Do you know where you heard/read/got that information?

I also seem to remember she could not get out of her contract.

kookooman73 said:

Hopefully the Diamond & Pearls Superdeluxe will rectify some of this & feature her heavily.

I see what you did there.

cb70 said:

SoulAlive said: