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Thread started 02/28/21 2:09am

machinegun

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What’s stopping associated music being on streaming services?

Does anyone know why so much associated stuff is missing from streaming services ? Considering how technically easy it must be to make the music available, why is stuff like NPG (Goldnigga), Vanity 6 Apollonia 6, Madhouse, The Family, Jill Jones not available especially when these are almost impossible to find in digital form legally.

Who is it that sits in the middle of those that want to legally listen and those that want their material heard sand say “No, these songs will remain unavailable on any format even though there is demand and streaming platforms would be a very easy way of doing it and even though we aren’t releasing on any other format either”.

It’s some miserable shit and just the sort of thing that makes the world a worse place.
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Reply #1 posted 02/28/21 7:40am

SoulAlive

I would love to be able to hear Apollonia 6 and Mazarati album on Spotify.
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Reply #2 posted 03/01/21 6:42am

Poplife88

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I've been wondering the same thing. Jill Jones is the one for me. My copy is a rip from my old cassette and its terrible.

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Reply #3 posted 03/01/21 8:05pm

onlyforaminute

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It would be nice. I too wonder what the hitch is.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #4 posted 03/03/21 7:28pm

TrivialPursuit

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Good question!

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #5 posted 03/04/21 7:42am

sexton

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TrivialPursuit said:

Good question!


Hmm, I'd be very surprised if there was a big demand for Good Question on streaming sites.

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. biggrin

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Reply #6 posted 03/04/21 10:26am

TrivialPursuit

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sexton said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Good question!


Hmm, I'd be very surprised if there was a big demand for Good Question on streaming sites.

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. biggrin


Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/21 3:57am

Wowugotit

I just noticed that Warner Records have released "Nasty Girl" by Vanity 6 as a single via Apple Music. There is always hope for more.

https://music.apple.com/u...1554286051

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Reply #8 posted 03/05/21 11:06am

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Very strange. I have seen super obscure artists received CD reissues and digital releases but, other than The Time, WB won't do anything with Prince protege material. disbelief

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
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Reply #9 posted 03/06/21 5:36am

machinegun

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Seems beyond just the associated acts - even NPG which whilst not a pure Prince release is as close as it gets with Goldnigga (which I don't even think is on Warner) and not to forget Madhouse 8 is nearly all him apart from Eric Leeds. Loads of precious material. As I said, it's some sick shit. If I download and distribute illegally I could technically be sued and the claim may involve they lose money but if I say OK, sell it to me, err well it's not for sale. If they say it's an asset that they may release later, well in 10 years there will barely be anyone left that cares anymore - it's a completely dwindling niche fan base. Just let people pay and pay/access and listen. HD Download sites or streaming sites, don't care how, just have some respect and let people listen to material that either Prince felt fit to release once upon a time or the remaining artists such as the lovely Jill Jones or Apples I'm sure woiuld be happy to have available for fans to enjoy.

Sorry for the rant! By the way, message to Mods: I think this post could be on the main forum - it includes Prince's material as well, and someone reading there might know why.

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Reply #10 posted 03/06/21 5:51pm

SoulAlive

at the very least......the Apollonia 6 album,the Family album,the Mazarati album and the Jill Jones album should all be widely available on the streaming services.I can't understand why they're not.

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[Edited 3/7/21 10:48am]

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Reply #11 posted 03/07/21 3:12am

BartVanHemelen

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Wowugotit said:

I just noticed that Warner Records have released "Nasty Girl" by Vanity 6 as a single via Apple Music. There is always hope for more.

https://music.apple.com/u...1554286051

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Hmmm...

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Nasty Girl - Single

Vanity 6

1 song, 5 minutes

released February 22, 2021

(p) 2021 Warner Records

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Reply #12 posted 03/08/21 2:43pm

AMERICA1ST

I am glad that I invested in all of the official CDs of all the associated artists back when they first came out:

Apollonia 6

Vanity 6

The Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

both Madhouse albums

Eric Leeds

Brownmark (the first 2 solo albums)

Sheila E. - the first 3 albums

NPG

Wendy and Lisa (just the first 2 albums are good)

Morris Day

Vanity (are her albums associated since Prince has nothing to do with them?)

The Day Zs

Andre Cymone

The Girls

Jesse Johnson

Da Krash

TaMara and the Seen

I think I had Bobby Z's first solo but I think I got rid of it - it was not worth the space in my collection

Ingrid Chavez

Carmen Electra

Mayte

Dez Dickerson

All of the Pasiley Park releases - TC Ellis, Good Question, The Three o Clock, George Clinton)

And - of course - The Time (the 4 REAL Time albums + Condensate)

[Edited 3/12/21 17:39pm]

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Reply #13 posted 03/08/21 9:59pm

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Should have grabbed that Mazarati and Vanity lps I saw recently ar the used record store...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #14 posted 03/09/21 6:59am

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AMERICA1ST said:

I am glad that I invested in all of the official CDs of all the associated artists back when they first came out:

Apollonia 6

Vanity 6

The Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

both Madhouse albums

Eric Leeds

Brownmark (the first 2 solo albums)

Sheila E. - the first 3 albums

NPG

Wendy and Lisa (just the first 2 albums are good)

Morris Day

Vanity (are her albums associated since Prince has nothing to do with them?)

The Day Zs

Andre Cymone

The Girls

Jesse Johnson

Da Krash

TaMara and the Seen

I think I had Bobby Z's first solo but I think I got rid of it - it was not worth the space in my collection

Ingrid Chavez

Carmen Electra

Mayte

Dez Dickerson

All of the Pasiley Park releases - TC Ellis, Good Question, The Three o Clock, George Clinton)

And - of course - The Time (the 4 REAL Time albums + Condesate)


Vanity's solo albums were never officially released on CD.

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Reply #15 posted 03/09/21 9:45pm

Goddess4Real

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onlyforaminute said:

It would be nice. I too wonder what the hitch is.

yeahthat

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Reply #16 posted 03/12/21 5:37pm

AMERICA1ST

sexton said:

AMERICA1ST said:

I am glad that I invested in all of the official CDs of all the associated artists back when they first came out:

Apollonia 6

Vanity 6

The Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

both Madhouse albums

Eric Leeds

Brownmark (the first 2 solo albums)

Sheila E. - the first 3 albums

NPG

Wendy and Lisa (just the first 2 albums are good)

Morris Day

Vanity (are her albums associated since Prince has nothing to do with them?)

The Day Zs

Andre Cymone

The Girls

Jesse Johnson

Da Krash

TaMara and the Seen

I think I had Bobby Z's first solo but I think I got rid of it - it was not worth the space in my collection

Ingrid Chavez

Carmen Electra

Mayte

Dez Dickerson

All of the Pasiley Park releases - TC Ellis, Good Question, The Three o Clock, George Clinton)

And - of course - The Time (the 4 REAL Time albums + Condesate)


Vanity's solo albums were never officially released on CD.

That is right - and that is a crime because they are rather good. Wild Animal is a classic in my book. I have all the vinyl and some unofficial CDs

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Reply #17 posted 03/18/21 3:23pm

coldcoffeeandc
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AMERICA1ST said:



sexton said:




AMERICA1ST said:


I am glad that I invested in all of the official CDs of all the associated artists back when they first came out:


Apollonia 6


Vanity 6


The Family


Mazarati


Jill Jones


both Madhouse albums


Eric Leeds


Brownmark (the first 2 solo albums)


Sheila E. - the first 3 albums


NPG


Wendy and Lisa (just the first 2 albums are good)


Morris Day


Vanity (are her albums associated since Prince has nothing to do with them?)


The Day Zs


Andre Cymone


The Girls


Jesse Johnson


Da Krash


TaMara and the Seen


I think I had Bobby Z's first solo but I think I got rid of it - it was not worth the space in my collection


Ingrid Chavez


Carmen Electra


Mayte


Dez Dickerson


All of the Pasiley Park releases - TC Ellis, Good Question, The Three o Clock, George Clinton)


And - of course - The Time (the 4 REAL Time albums + Condesate)






Vanity's solo albums were never officially released on CD.



That is right - and that is a crime because they are rather good. Wild Animal is a classic in my book. I have all the vinyl and some unofficial CDs

[Edited 3/12/21 17:39pm]



Wild animal is so good!
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Reply #18 posted 03/18/21 3:26pm

coldcoffeeandc
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Jill Jones album... it's a crime it's not available. Violet blue is one of the best songs ever written!

Ingrid chavez... Some truly excellent tracks and it still sounds fresh


It feels with the decisions by the high ups to hide this stuff like being in an exclusive club except I wanr everyone to join it as music is there to be heard and what someone said is right in ten years there will be less relevance. Now is the time.
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Reply #19 posted 03/18/21 3:27pm

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AMERICA1ST said:

I am glad that I invested in all of the official CDs of all the associated artists back when they first came out:


Apollonia 6


Vanity 6


The Family


Mazarati


Jill Jones


both Madhouse albums


Eric Leeds


Brownmark (the first 2 solo albums)


Sheila E. - the first 3 albums


NPG


Wendy and Lisa (just the first 2 albums are good)


Morris Day


Vanity (are her albums associated since Prince has nothing to do with them?)


The Day Zs


Andre Cymone


The Girls


Jesse Johnson


Da Krash


TaMara and the Seen


I think I had Bobby Z's first solo but I think I got rid of it - it was not worth the space in my collection


Ingrid Chavez


Carmen Electra


Mayte


Dez Dickerson


All of the Pasiley Park releases - TC Ellis, Good Question, The Three o Clock, George Clinton)


And - of course - The Time (the 4 REAL Time albums + Condensate)



[Edited 3/12/21 17:39pm]



Such an amazing collection!
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Reply #20 posted 03/19/21 5:33am

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kitbradley said:

Very strange. I have seen super obscure artists received CD reissues and digital releases but, other than The Time, WB won't do anything with Prince protege material. disbelief

The Glamorous Life would be one that would be a sure fire reissue

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Reply #21 posted 03/19/21 7:14am

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kitbradley said:

Very strange. I have seen super obscure artists received CD reissues and digital releases but, other than The Time, WB won't do anything with Prince protege material. disbelief

Aren't those usually released on labels like Numero Group & Light In The Attic that specialize in obscure performers and small little known record labels. They don't generally do major label stuff. Most of Jermaine Jackson's Motown albums have never been on CD, and the ones that were are imports from Japan. Yet there's deluxe CD sets of LaToya Jackson albums and her records weren't popular in the first place. Jermaine had some success, mainly on R&B radio.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #22 posted 03/19/21 4:55pm

SoulAlive

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Should have grabbed that Mazarati and Vanity lps I saw recently ar the used record store...



I love the Mazarati album.Tracks like “She’s Just That Kinda Lady” and “Players Ball” were my jams in 1986 biggrin Superb album all the way through.I’m happy that I held on to my vinyl copy all these years,but it would still be nice to be able to stream it on Spotify sometime.
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Reply #23 posted 03/19/21 8:00pm

TheTruth123

I know these are Prince songs, but does anyone know why "I Love U But I Don't Trust You Anymore" and "Comeback" are no longer on Tidal? I guess the whole album is missing?

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Reply #24 posted 03/21/21 2:40am

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SoulAlive said:

I would love to be able to hear Apollonia 6 and Mazarati album on Spotify.

One album I was stunned to find on Spotify is DaKrash the band Jesse
Johnson produced 1988. That album has Jesse's stamp all over it but those guys
were excellent musicians. The album is solid. I believe the lead singer of the band had a sexual assault charge against him that put the band in limbo. The group got a new lead singer and rebrand themselves 3 years later as Kool Skool. They added hip hop to their sound.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #25 posted 03/21/21 11:49am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

I would love to be able to hear Apollonia 6 and Mazarati album on Spotify.

One album I was stunned to find on Spotify is DaKrash the band Jesse
Johnson produced 1988. That album has Jesse's stamp all over it but those guys
were excellent musicians. The album is solid. I believe the lead singer of the band had a sexual assault charge against him that put the band in limbo. The group got a new lead singer and rebrand themselves 3 years later as Kool Skool. They added hip hop to their sound.


I remember DaKrash and their single “Wasn’t I Good To You”.One of the cool things about Spotify is you never know what you may find.I was so surprised to see the 1983 album by an obscure band called Sexual Harassment.Their big hit was “I Need A Freak”.There is a heavy Prince influence.That album is extremely rare,yet there it is on Spotify.
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