alphastreet said:

Someone I talked to on the net who knows jesse told me that they had a dispute over royalties. Has anyone heard anything like that before? [Edited 2/6/21 23:39pm]

well it can be cause he was with them for a short time

thebanishedone said:

alphastreet said:

thebanishedone said:

well it can be cause he was with them for a short time

How long ago? Was it around rhythm nation era?

he was with them only for a year or so .After Black Cat he was gone

thebanishedone said:

I DO know that Jellybean was the ONE who discovered Mint Condition, but Jam & Lewis get all the Glory for it.

woogiebear said:

Looks like every Minneapolis Sound dispuite can not be blame on Prince

AMERICA1ST said:

woogiebear said:

I DO know that Jellybean was the ONE who discovered Mint Condition, but Jam & Lewis get all the Glory for it.

If U know then Stokley must B lying.

https://www.youtube.com/w...pkSBMz_3y0

HrdwcH said:

woogiebear said:

I DO know that Jellybean was the ONE who discovered Mint Condition, but Jam & Lewis get all the Glory for it.

If U know then Stokley must B lying.

https://www.youtube.com/w...pkSBMz_3y0

Watch "Video Soul In Minneapolis", where Donnie Simpson interviews Jellybean and He talks about Mint Condition. He discovered Them & brought Them to Perspective. Even Produced a lot of Their Material. That was 1987, cause on the Show Jimmy Jam is mixing Morris Day's "Fishnet".

I'm not so sure if Jellybean discovered them but Mint Condition had already been doing showcases

in Minneapolis since 1986 so I'm quite sure Jam and Lewis were aware of them. The original lineup which included Roger Troutman's son tried to get record deals to no avail. Then 3 members including Roger's son quit and 3 other members came in and became the lineup we know today. Jam and Lewis had started their Perspective label and signed Sounds of Blackness first at Janet Jackson's

request. Then they signed Mint. Jam and Lewis had the label and the power. Jellybean just worked under their umbrella as well as Monte Moir and later Big Jim Wright. Jellybean and Mint produced their debut album but Mint took full control after that. Jellybean admitted that he got his feet wet in producing because everybody else in the Time were doing other things and he didn't want to get left out.

phunkdaddy said:

I'm not so sure if Jellybean discovered them but Mint Condition had already been doing showcases

in Minneapolis since 1986 so I'm quite sure Jam and Lewis were aware of them. The original lineup which included Roger Troutman's son tried to get record deals to no avail. Then 3 members including Roger's son quit and 3 other members came in and became the lineup we know today. Jam and Lewis had started their Perspective label and signed Sounds of Blackness first at Janet Jackson's

request. Then they signed Mint. Jam and Lewis had the label and the power. Jellybean just worked under their umbrella as well as Monte Moir and later Big Jim Wright. Jellybean and Mint produced their debut album but Mint took full control after that. Jellybean admitted that he got his feet wet in producing because everybody else in the Time were doing other things and he didn't want to get left out.

Thanks 4 chipping in. This is the story as I know it.

Concerning Jellybean, I know he went thu a "I hate my rich friends phase (referring 2 Prince and J&L)". And yeah, I'm pretty sure it was becuz of royalties. I don't know if it has been sorted out at this point in time.

alphastreet said: