ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

I wonder if the Estate can ask (or demand) to see the script before it is finalized?

I agree that Sheila has been heavy-handed. I remember her acting as the immediate spokesperson and fiancee.

Re: Lisa...I think that was very short-lived.

ThatWhiteDude said:

thebanishedone said:

Sheila E never dated Santana and she never dated Prince.Sheila is a lesbian and she is with Linn Mbry for a few decades.But in that biopic she is going to have love affair with Prince and Santana.yeah right

how do you know she never dated santana? You were there or what?

to answer your question is the same like if somebody asked me :Hey how do you know Freddie Mercury didn't band all them sexy female groupies.Were you there ?

thebanishedone said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

how do you know she never dated santana? You were there or what?

to answer your question is the same like if somebody asked me :Hey how do you know Freddie Mercury didn't band all them sexy female groupies.Were you there ?

but you know that Freddie was Bi? Right? he was involved with women as well, so, he was bi. So, your argument isn't as strong as you might think.

https://www.biography.com/news/freddie-mercury-sexuality

However, it was well known that this icon of rock had had relationships with both men and women. At one point he claimed to be bisexual.

ThatWhiteDude said:

thebanishedone said:

to answer your question is the same like if somebody asked me :Hey how do you know Freddie Mercury didn't band all them sexy female groupies.Were you there ?

but you know that Freddie was Bi? Right? he was involved with women as well, so, he was bi. So, your argument isn't as strong as you might think.

https://www.biography.com/news/freddie-mercury-sexuality

However, it was well known that this icon of rock had had relationships with both men and women. At one point he claimed to be bisexual.

Freddie lived with a girl from 1970 until 1976,after that he started gay relationships and around 1978 it escalated to a sexual rampage of high profile.Every single night with a few exceptions Freddie was having sex with more than 1 guy per night and it lasted from 1978 until 1985 .During that time the only lady in his life was Barbara Valentine but it was not confirmed if they really had a sexual relationship.Freddie was not bi,in fact he was so consumed with that lifestyle that it made his main focus.from 1978 until 1989Miracle Freddie would come to the studio do his part and as soon as he was done he was out having a party.Queen in the 80s was carried on 3 other guys shoulder and 80s hit were by one of the 3 guys not Freddie.

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thebanishedone said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

but you know that Freddie was Bi? Right? he was involved with women as well, so, he was bi. So, your argument isn't as strong as you might think.

https://www.biography.com/news/freddie-mercury-sexuality

However, it was well known that this icon of rock had had relationships with both men and women. At one point he claimed to be bisexual.

Freddie lived with a girl from 1970 until 1976,after that he started gay relationships and around 1978 it escalated to a sexual rampage of high profile.Every single night with a few exceptions Freddie was having sex with more than 1 guy per night and it lasted from 1978 until 1985 .During that time the only lady in his life was Barbara Valentine but it was not confirmed if they really had a sexual relationship.Freddie was not bi,in fact he was so consumed with that lifestyle that it made his main focus.from 1978 until 1989Miracle Freddie would come to the studio do his part and as soon as he was done he was out having a party.Queen in the 80s was carried on 3 other guys shoulder and 80s hit were by one of the 3 guys not Freddie.

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wether he was gay or bi ( I tend to believe people when they claim they are gay or bi, but whatever), that doesn't mean that sheila is gay too. I've never heard about the rumor of her being gay until the lemon cake incident last year when either cat or apples "outed" her in their post. I'm no fan of sheila either, but feeding off of a comment from one person is just kinda shitty. Her life isn't as public as freddies, so unless you know her personally, you can't say for certain that she is gay.

ThatWhiteDude said:

thebanishedone said:

Freddie lived with a girl from 1970 until 1976,after that he started gay relationships and around 1978 it escalated to a sexual rampage of high profile.Every single night with a few exceptions Freddie was having sex with more than 1 guy per night and it lasted from 1978 until 1985 .During that time the only lady in his life was Barbara Valentine but it was not confirmed if they really had a sexual relationship.Freddie was not bi,in fact he was so consumed with that lifestyle that it made his main focus.from 1978 until 1989Miracle Freddie would come to the studio do his part and as soon as he was done he was out having a party.Queen in the 80s was carried on 3 other guys shoulder and 80s hit were by one of the 3 guys not Freddie.

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wether he was gay or bi ( I tend to believe people when they claim they are gay or bi, but whatever), that doesn't mean that sheila is gay too. I've never heard about the rumor of her being gay until the lemon cake incident last year when either cat or apples "outed" her in their post. I'm no fan of sheila either, but feeding off of a comment from one person is just kinda shitty. Her life isn't as public as freddies, so unless you know her personally, you can't say for certain that she is gay.

Though I've heard that Sheila has had lesbian relationships, she could have easily had relationships w/Santana and Prince. Sometimes it happens w/those one admires. Lisa??

Apparently there was a lot of drama between Cat and Sheila on the SOTT tour as it was mentioned

they were competing for Prince's 'attention'. That has a sexual undercurrent to me.

I just hope the Estate is watching and will have the access and power to edit the biopic script appropriately.

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Does anyone know if Prince's Estate can legally intervene and remove any untruths from this biopic?

The Prince estate has absolutely no control over Sheila's biopic; they would have to sue in court over some provable legal theory...

purplethunder3121 said:

The Prince estate has absolutely no control over Sheila's biopic; they would have to sue in court over some provable legal theory...

The legal theory is harm to a reputation of someone who cannot defend himself.

The Estate could submit the alleged Cease & Desist letters as evidence.

Margot said:

Does anyone know if Prince's Estate can legally intervene and remove any untruths from this biopic?

No, they cannot usurp freedom of speech. Nor should they. People are free to do what they wish. And just because someone else is clutching the pearls and upset over it doesn't mean the offended deserves retribution or some sort of moral reimbursement.

If the estate wants to make their own movie, they can do so. And while I don't agree with Sheila making a movie about Prince (despite her calling it a biopic about herself, we know she's going to position herself as the grieving widow and damn near Prince's only girlfriend in the history of the planet), she can make whatever schlock she wishes.

And no, they cannot submit a Cease and Desist because they're up in their feelings about it. There's no presedence for it. And a C&D isn't a binding order, like a summons or whatever. It's a warning, at best.

Movies, books, and articles have been written about others since the dawn of time. Sheila's iPhone movie won't be any different. If you don't want to watch it, don't. It's that simple.

I got a C&D from Prince and his peeps in 2001. My life moved on regardless.

TrivialPursuit said:

Margot said:

Does anyone know if Prince's Estate can legally intervene and remove any untruths from this biopic?

No, they cannot usurp freedom of speech. Nor should they. People are free to do what they wish. And just because someone else is clutching the pearls and upset over it doesn't mean the offended deserves retribution or some sort of moral reimbursement.

If the estate wants to make their own movie, they can do so. And while I don't agree with Sheila making a movie about Prince (despite her calling it a biopic about herself, we know she's going to position herself as the grieving widow and damn near Prince's only girlfriend in the history of the planet), she can make whatever schlock she wishes.

And no, they cannot submit a Cease and Desist because they're up in their feelings about it. There's no presedence for it. And a C&D isn't a binding order, like a summons or whatever. It's a warning, at best.

Movies, books, and articles have been written about others since the dawn of time. Sheila's iPhone movie won't be any different. If you don't want to watch it, don't. It's that simple.

I got a C&D from Prince and his peeps in 2001. My life moved on regardless.

I was hoping to hear from the orger who is a lawyer...She doesn't seem to frequent the Org anymore.

Margot said:

TrivialPursuit said:

No, they cannot usurp freedom of speech. Nor should they. People are free to do what they wish. And just because someone else is clutching the pearls and upset over it doesn't mean the offended deserves retribution or some sort of moral reimbursement.

If the estate wants to make their own movie, they can do so. And while I don't agree with Sheila making a movie about Prince (despite her calling it a biopic about herself, we know she's going to position herself as the grieving widow and damn near Prince's only girlfriend in the history of the planet), she can make whatever schlock she wishes.

And no, they cannot submit a Cease and Desist because they're up in their feelings about it. There's no presedence for it. And a C&D isn't a binding order, like a summons or whatever. It's a warning, at best.

Movies, books, and articles have been written about others since the dawn of time. Sheila's iPhone movie won't be any different. If you don't want to watch it, don't. It's that simple.

I got a C&D from Prince and his peeps in 2001. My life moved on regardless.

I was hoping to hear from the orger who is a lawyer...She doesn't seem to frequent the Org anymore.

she would definitely tell you the same. I mean, the worst thing sheila could claim would be that she dated prince, even if it's not the truth. And who cares? Let her live in her fantasy world if she wants it so desperately. I just sit back, relax and laugh about it.

You'd be surprised at what the Estate can do...

Margot said:

I was hoping to hear from the orger who is a lawyer...She doesn't seem to frequent the Org anymore.

I was hoping to be 6'5 with a baby's arm as a third leg, but that didn't happen either.

Nothing I said was that off course anyway. Not hard to look up a C&D and what it means, etc. Also not hard to read the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. You're old enough (probably) to remember who Kitty Kelly was, or who Andrew Morton and J. Randy Taraborrelli are today. So - there's that.

The estate has bigger fish to fry than Sheila's wet dream fantasy.

PennyPurple said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

there's angst, and then there's unnecessary.

shes def done some weird stuff over the years, or said weird things, but many fans seem to think anyone who doesnt bow down and worship prince unconditionally doesnt deserve any respect. which is wrong to me. she is allowed to be inconsistent if she wants to. she is allowed to do weird things.

they had a relationship. she obv had a lot of emotional attachment to him, and they did have a realtionship. its weird and kinda ugh for so many fans to attack her for stuff that we dont really know the story about.

this film will prob suck a lot.

but i think shes just got some issues of her own.

let her be.

people here are acting like shes commandeered the estate, or ruining his entire reputation or something. as if she even has that power. shes just telling HER story about prince. and it will be one of many. considering so many people are curious about his relationships, i think she is allowed to do it. she was both a romantic partner, and a musical partner. which gives her some credibility.

that housequake group announcement was pathetic TBH. tantamount to censorship.

FYI

She did try to commandeer the Estate...she thought she was going to be in demand of it, until the Estate Lawyers backed her down. If memory serves me correctly, she finally posted or tweeted, that she is 'done' with the Estate.

Then the phone call between her

and Judith Hill, where S tells Judith to stay quiet and if she needs to lawyer up, let them know, and they will do that for her......(it's in the investigative files)

Don't forget about the 'Prince' tribute cruises she's done, the shirts she's sold with the symbol on them, and many more things that she has done since 4/16.

Where do you come up with, 'everybody' is jealous? What everyone wants from the ASSociates is TRUTH, not some made up stories about how much she and P loved each other. Hell, they weren't even speaking for P's last 6 years on this Earth.

Sheila E performed with Prince on the George Lopez Show in April 2011. They were speaking. Prince and Sheila were friends who jammed together. They were friends and maybe not very close friends later in life. They had not been lovers since the late 80s. Maybe in the early 90s too, before Prince married Mayte. There's a very good reason Prince never married Sheila E.

YTC said:

PennyPurple said:

FYI

She did try to commandeer the Estate...she thought she was going to be in demand of it, until the Estate Lawyers backed her down. If memory serves me correctly, she finally posted or tweeted, that she is 'done' with the Estate.

Then the phone call between her

and Judith Hill, where S tells Judith to stay quiet and if she needs to lawyer up, let them know, and they will do that for her......(it's in the investigative files)

Don't forget about the 'Prince' tribute cruises she's done, the shirts she's sold with the symbol on them, and many more things that she has done since 4/16.

Where do you come up with, 'everybody' is jealous? What everyone wants from the ASSociates is TRUTH, not some made up stories about how much she and P loved each other. Hell, they weren't even speaking for P's last 6 years on this Earth.

Sheila E performed with Prince on the George Lopez Show in April 2011. They were speaking. Prince and Sheila were friends who jammed together. They were friends and maybe not very close friends later in life. They had not been lovers since the late 80s. Maybe in the early 90s too, before Prince married Mayte. There's a very good reason Prince never married Sheila E.

Prince died in 2016. The fact that they were speaking in 2011 is immaterial.

Genesia said:

PennyPurple said:

"Pretty much, I was engaged to Carlos Santana. That was huge and no one knew about that," said the 56-year-old drummer, who dated a married Santana when she was 18. "I thought people would be talking about that, and it's more about, `She was engaged to Prince!' Really?"

snip....

Sheila E. said Santana, who was 36 at the time, was her first love, calling it "a wonderful romance."

Sheila E. Talks Relations... Billboard

How can you be engaged to someone who's married? Long story short: you can't.

Which makes me wonder how real her "engagement" to Prince was.

I agree. It was real to her but she was mostly a side chick. I don't recall reading about her and any other men besides Prince and Carlos Santana. I always thought she was bisexual, and after Prince went and got married twice, she was so devasted she just gave up on relationships all together or was living a lesbian lifestyle, or practicing celibacy like Prince announced he was back in 2008.

The fact that they were speaking in 2011 proves to me that Sheila and Prince were close friends who had been in and out of each other's lives since they met. They had a romance but it was mostly a platonic and professional relationship because Sheila was really his favorite female drummer. Like I mentioned in my last post with immaterial info according to you, there's a very good reason Prince never married her.

thebanishedone said:

What Sheila proved so far is that she is the biggest lier in a Prince camp.She was never with Prince and Santana.Sheila E is a lesbian.She is with Lynn Mabry from Brides Of Funkenstein for decades.if she do that biopic we will get a very deviate version of events

I don't know her personally, didn't read her book, and haven't listened to any of her recent music. I don't know if you know her personally but from what I've read and was told, what you alledge about Sheila could be the case. I think she was with Prince and Carlos but she's exaggerating the extent of their relationship. Clearly if these men wanted to marry her then or later, they would have and she would have married them. If she's a lesbian she would never marry a man. Has Sheila ever been married? She could have married and we never knew about it. Alledgedly she had threesomes with Prince but unless the other women who were alledgedly involved speak about it, it can't be confirmed. Alledgedly she was a diva with a bad attitude, especially against his ex-wives. This is why I was surprised and she invited his ex-wife to perform with her for the Prince tribute. When Sheila was younger I'm sure she lived the glamourous life, had a big ego, and lived beyond her means while touring with Prince on the Purple Rain tour. Her biopic should be good as long as she tells the truth and doesn't make Prince look like he did her dirty because he's not here to tell his side, but if she wants to tell her story she needs to tell it. I'll be watching.

I think the Estate lawyers could send pertinent copies of Prince's C&D letters to the producers of her biopic and 'saber-rattle'

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