funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Crazy how much hate there is for her. Doubt this will be a great film in any case but I hope to be surprised

I mean, if you really read through the comments here, there is good reason people have angst toward her. She's earned it in spades.

there's angst, and then there's unnecessary.

shes def done some weird stuff over the years, or said weird things, but many fans seem to think anyone who doesnt bow down and worship prince unconditionally doesnt deserve any respect. which is wrong to me. she is allowed to be inconsistent if she wants to. she is allowed to do weird things.

they had a relationship. she obv had a lot of emotional attachment to him, and they did have a realtionship. its weird and kinda ugh for so many fans to attack her for stuff that we dont really know the story about.

this film will prob suck a lot.

but i think shes just got some issues of her own.

let her be.

people here are acting like shes commandeered the estate, or ruining his entire reputation or something. as if she even has that power. shes just telling HER story about prince. and it will be one of many. considering so many people are curious about his relationships, i think she is allowed to do it. she was both a romantic partner, and a musical partner. which gives her some credibility.

that housequake group announcement was pathetic TBH. tantamount to censorship.

tab32792 said:

alexandertracy said:

tab32792 said:

Most of all these 80's associates present alternative facts and yet nobody says anything. Sheila E or Mayte do something, and this so called fan community is ready to burn them at the stake.

these fans are basically just jealous of sheila and mayte as people that actually had a relationship with their beloved.

they wish it was them loooool

newsflash: a person involved romantically with a person will know them better than you.

so yeah they might have some motives of their own, maybe, but they are also able to comment from a more credible perspective.

they arent dragging his name through the mud either. they are just offering a perspective which is maybe one you dont want to hear.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

alexandertracy said:

tab32792 said:

these fans are basically just jealous of sheila and mayte as people that actually had a relationship with their beloved.

they wish it was them loooool

newsflash: a person involved romantically with a person will know them better than you.

so yeah they might have some motives of their own, maybe, but they are also able to comment from a more credible perspective.

they arent dragging his name through the mud either. they are just offering a perspective which is maybe one you dont want to hear.

Can you use some basic grammar, punctuation, and capitalization in your sentences? Usually, I ignore such errors. But there's so many in your posts that they're unreadable.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

alexandertracy said:

tab32792 said:

these fans are basically just jealous of sheila and mayte as people that actually had a relationship with their beloved.

they wish it was them loooool

newsflash: a person involved romantically with a person will know them better than you.

so yeah they might have some motives of their own, maybe, but they are also able to comment from a more credible perspective.

they arent dragging his name through the mud either. they are just offering a perspective which is maybe one you dont want to hear.

So using his symbol to sell her shit is okay in your book? No one says she's dragging his name, but she's done some shady shit in the last couple of years.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

there's angst, and then there's unnecessary.

shes def done some weird stuff over the years, or said weird things, but many fans seem to think anyone who doesnt bow down and worship prince unconditionally doesnt deserve any respect. which is wrong to me. she is allowed to be inconsistent if she wants to. she is allowed to do weird things.

they had a relationship. she obv had a lot of emotional attachment to him, and they did have a realtionship. its weird and kinda ugh for so many fans to attack her for stuff that we dont really know the story about.

this film will prob suck a lot.

but i think shes just got some issues of her own.

let her be.

people here are acting like shes commandeered the estate, or ruining his entire reputation or something. as if she even has that power. shes just telling HER story about prince. and it will be one of many. considering so many people are curious about his relationships, i think she is allowed to do it. she was both a romantic partner, and a musical partner. which gives her some credibility.

that housequake group announcement was pathetic TBH. tantamount to censorship.

FYI

She did try to commandeer the Estate...she thought she was going to be in demand of it, until the Estate Lawyers backed her down. If memory serves me correctly, she finally posted or tweeted, that she is 'done' with the Estate.

Then the phone call between her

and Judith Hill, where S tells Judith to stay quiet and if she needs to lawyer up, let them know, and they will do that for her......(it's in the investigative files)

Don't forget about the 'Prince' tribute cruises she's done, the shirts she's sold with the symbol on them, and many more things that she has done since 4/16.

Where do you come up with, 'everybody' is jealous? What everyone wants from the ASSociates is TRUTH, not some made up stories about how much she and P loved each other. Hell, they weren't even speaking for P's last 6 years on this Earth.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

You guys are annoyed about some symbol t shirts? You think she got rich from that? That's def some weird behaviour but nothing more than that. You act like she rolled a tank over the vault tapes.

so you ignore the rest that Penny posted and decide that we're just petty over some damn shirts with his symbol?

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Not petty but it's like, just try to get it in perspective. She ISNT in control of the estate. She isnt making money off his name, at least no more than any other associated act is. She is allowed to say what she wants about her relationship with prince even if it might be deluded. Who are you to say what it was like? How do you know? Its not like prince would have confirmed. The movie will prob be a bomb no one cares about in any case.

I don't care what she says about her time with P. I wasn't there, I think they all have the right to tell their story. But some just rub me the wrong way. And Sheila is one of them. She lied in an Interview when she said she's gonna find out what happened but somehow knew enough to tell Judith they can lawyer her up if she needs to. Plus Kirk called her the night Prince died, so what was the call about?

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Not petty but it's like, just try to get it in perspective. She ISNT in control of the estate. She isnt making money off his name, at least no more than any other associated act is. She is allowed to say what she wants about her relationship with prince even if it might be deluded. Who are you to say what it was like? How do you know? Its not like prince would have confirmed. The movie will prob be a bomb no one cares about in any case.

She tried to get control of the Estate. Luckily they kicked her to the curb.

She IS making money off P.

Yes, she can say what ever she wants to about P, and she can continue to lie to herself and us.

If P were alive, you can damn well bet that he would have slapped her with a cease and desist.

PennyPurple said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

PennyPurple said:

She tried to get control of the Estate. Luckily they kicked her to the curb.

She IS making money off P.

Yes, she can say what ever she wants to about P, and she can continue to lie to herself and us.

If P were alive, you can damn well bet that he would have slapped her with a cease and desist.

And you think giving someone a cease and desist for TALKING is ok? How is she making money off prince in a way others like Morris, etc arent??

When did Prince give someone a cease and desist order for talking? I've never heard of that. There are interviews of his associates before he died in which they talk about him and he never seemed to care about that. Not even when Mayte talked about their relationship in the early 2000's. I think some people underestimate how little Prince cared about them talking.

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

If that's the case why did he make ppl sign NDAs? Anyway the cease and desist suggestion wasnt mine, it was penny purples. My point is why should sheila be served with a cease and desist?

So? They still talked about him in interviews. I remember the "fancy lesbian" comment from Wendy and Lisa around 2008/09? He didn't seem to care though. He probably let them sign those things (it's actually pretty standard in the business), but it didn't stop people from talking so I don't know why people make a big deal about the fact that he made them sign those. He wasn't the only one. As I said, it's pretty standard and to some extend his right. Leonardo DiCaprio is famous for having ridiculous ones. Who cares?

https://lawandcrime.com/celebrity/dicaprios-ndas-would-probably-get-laughed-out-of-court/

For example, DiCaprio’s NDA basically does all it can to suggest that someone who signs it can never sue the superstar or his production company. And that couldn’t be further from the truth.

If I read the article correctly, these contracts can't stop you from talking, they're often just written in a manner that suggest you're absolutely not allowed to open ya mouth.

https://www.codementor.io/blog/guide-to-ndas-2j1yrvq40g

The cold hard truth is that most NDAs do not hold up in court. Non-Disclosure Agreements are most effective in establishing a paper trail of confidential information as it relates to partnerships, and discouraging partners from misappropriating proprietary information.

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“The truth is Prince did not speak to Sheila E the last few years before he died. She had published a memoir and he was upset at her for talking about him in it. From that date on, he was done with her. The claims she was his fiancée etc. — all lies. His girlfriend was Susannah at the time and then he married Mayte. He was sending cease and desist letters to Sheila right up until he died. Sheila was considered his enemy.”

Exclusive: Prince Was 'Do...bscott.com

PennyPurple said:

“The truth is Prince did not speak to Sheila E the last few years before he died. She had published a memoir and he was upset at her for talking about him in it. From that date on, he was done with her. The claims she was his fiancée etc. — all lies. His girlfriend was Susannah at the time and then he married Mayte. He was sending cease and desist letters to Sheila right up until he died. Sheila was considered his enemy.”

Exclusive: Prince Was 'Do...bscott.com

damn.

An unnamed source--yeah, okay.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Crazy how much hate there is for her. Doubt this will be a great film in any case but I hope to be surprised [Edited 2/17/21 1:14am]

I think you are confusing hate with disappointment.

I can´t speak for the others on this thread but as far as I´m concerned, Sheila used to be one of my favorite associated artists and I went to her concerts, bought her music etc. etc. but she´s been acting weird ever since Prince passed away, we´ve discussed this quite often here so I´ll spare you the details. People like Sheila and Brownmark have every right to say or write what they want to but we have every right to criticize it if it´s not factual. I think both of them could make much more money, sell more books and concert tickets if they were more careful with what they´re saying because they are seriously alienating their former fans, and I´m saying that as a formerly huge fan of Sheila and Brownmark.

Sure, others say and write stuff about Prince, too, and not everything they say is flattering, and that´s perfectly ok but those two individuals I mentioned above are on a whole different level.

Sheila E never dated Santana and she never dated Prince.Sheila is a lesbian and she is with Linn Mbry for a few decades.But in that biopic she is going to have love affair with Prince and Santana.yeah right

^^I heard about Shelia and Lynn too....going way back to the mid 90's.^^..If it's true, then cool.

SPYZFAN1 said:

^^I heard about Shelia and Lynn too....going way back to the mid 90's.^^..If it's true, then cool.

one band member from 1986-1990 time period told me he never seen a sign of romance between two of them.it's bigger chance that Prince banged Lisa than Sheila,cause unlike Sheila conttrary to rumours Lisa did like guys beside girls

thebanishedone said:

Sheila E never dated Santana and she never dated Prince.Sheila is a lesbian and she is with Linn Mbry for a few decades.But in that biopic she is going to have love affair with Prince and Santana.yeah right

how do you know she never dated santana? You were there or what?

onlyforaminute said:

A bit late for Lisa to suddenly start talking about some sexual relationship with Prince. The entire tenure of Sheila's time has been about her having a sexual relationship with Prince. Prince was the author of the rouse. If she continues with it then who's to say differently.

I thought there's been rumors about Lisa and Prince for quite some time.