kitbradley said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

add Chaka Khan too

There is definately a difference in Prince writing a song for someone vs him bringing someone under his wing and into his camp and remaking them.

He did none of that with any of those above. Sheena Easton he could have...

Who on earth thought Chaka was a Prince protege??? Or Sheena?

anyone who worked with/in the band with Prince, I've read people equate them to being proteges or some other level 'Prince associate'

Even that term for me is questionable. In the sense of equating them with a type of protege.

If you do a search in this Associated Artist forum: Larry Graham, Chaka Khan and a bunch of others will be posted here, yet they are really. They should be posted in the Non-Prince Music forum. UNLESS it is directly connected to Prince...

Some of these people, people don't know of their career outside of Prince so it they get the wires crossed.

AMERICA1ST said:

Who thinks Candy is a Prince protege? Liv Warfield was out there prior to Prince but I dont think anyone believs she was a protege either.

They shouldn't. She was only a band member.
But Candy was introduced to Prince by Sheila E during the Lovesexy period, and that's where she made her appearance next with Prince during the Batman period. But she was never a protege.

I guess if Kim Bassinger actually came out with an album by Prince in 1989/90 she might have been. He was already dressing her.

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Anna Fantastic was on her way

Robin Power (and the Uptown Dames) were on their way

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TaMara(and the Seen) officially Jesse Johnson protege was on her way to being a Prince protege

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Even though his look/style was mirroring Prince's and a Paisley Park artist, I don't think Tony LeMans would be considered a protege, unless there was more involvement by Prince. He did consider Fuscia Light for him.
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Was Taja Sevelle a fully realized protege?

To me, as long as people understand a forum's organization for what post goes where, things are good to go. So I don't want to make too big a deal of this, as people will let me know if I start doing a lot of post mis-filings here at the Org.

Personally, I'm not that familiar with the word protege.

If we're using the upthread definition as a guide, with no specific requirements beyond those mentioned in that defintion, it allows for a lot of things.

This is the (upthread) protege definition:

a person who is guided and supported by an older and/or more experienced or influential person

Was thinking about this earlier when noted that this even allows for people to be proteges of one another.

I understand that Prince revered Sly and the Family Stone music and style. He especially revered Sly, who was a big Prince influencer.

Prince produced Larry.

In addition to all this, the bolded (above) protege defintion seemingly allows for Larry and Prince to be proteges of one another. This is because it might be argued that they served as guides and supports for one another, with Larry older and more experienced, and Prince more influential by the time that they worked together.

I'm not saying that in other places, protege might not be defined differently and have different requirements. In fact, it seems like the qualifications discussed in this thread go beyond the thread's definition for protege.

Which is totally cool. : ) Just trying to get a handle on it all. As far as the word protege goes, is there an applicable stricter defintion, or a definition with more requirements, than the one we've been using so far in this thread? Words sometimes can be used with varied "senses," so I wouldn't doubt that definitions vary a bit.

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You should get hipped to how protege is used in "Prince" culture. I posted the general, definition earlier.

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We have to understand how it is translated according to Prince overall.

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And me looking at someone who I don't personally know, and they don't know me, yet they inspire me is not what makes a protege.

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Larry Graham was Larry Graham, by the time Prince produced an album/music for him. Larry Graham didn't change anything about Larry Graham, to reflect Prince during the period it happened.

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When Andy Allo came out, Prince 'intimately' directed her style, sound, look, band etc

PRINCE PROTEGES
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The Time [ the Time, What Time Is It?, Ice Cream Castles ]

Vanity 6 [ Vanity 6]

Sheila E [ the Glamorous Life, Romance 1600, Sheila E ]

Apollonia 6 [ Apollonia 6 ]

The Family [ the Family ]

Mazarati [ Mazarati ]

Jill Jones [ Jill Jones ]

Madhouse [ 8, 16 ]

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Prince Builds His Kingdom

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One thing, though is certain - Prince is busy building his Kingdom. In 1980, he took a floundering local R&B band called Flyte Tyme (one of its former lead singers was Cynthia Johnson of Lipps, Inc. "Funkytown" fame), redressed its players, realigned its musical grooves and some of its members and created The Time. Depending on whom you talk to, The Time is either a bad-assed brainchild of Morris Day, a former drummer turned slick Romeo, a Little Richard look-alike and the group's lead singer and showman. Or The Time is a complete front for Prince, the workaholic wonderkid, who some say wrote, produced, played and arranged everything on The Time's first album. Son Of A Dirty Mind cried privileged insiders here in the Twin Cities when the band turned out its first flag-raising anthem, "Get It Up," or dancefloor showpiece and anthem called "Cool," By the time The Time got around to album number two, What Time Is It?, few local critic and record moguls believed that the baggy-trousered funksters weren't just spewing back a Princely script complete with smooth moves and a more accessible Black pop sound than his own.

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Ask Alexander O'Neil about the royal court, another Flyte Tyme singer who didn't make the team or didn't want to keep Time under Prince's decrees, and he'd all but tell you, Morris and the fellas are being kept by you know who. Jamie Starr, a name that's appeared on Prince's albums as well The Time's, could settle the controversy surrounding the Prince connection. But finding Jamie Starr is like trying to cop a dip from the invisible man. He doesn't exist. Jamie Starr is Prince's nowhere man. O'Neil would no doubt love to see that Starr name at the bottom of his own current recording project. It's magical; it moves records, it opens big doors at major record labels, especially Warner Brothers.

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Enter Vanity 6, stage left. Vanity 6 is Prince's female alter ego, three pinup peculiar princesses in lingerie who peddle excessive street eroticism that borders on soft-core porn. On their debut record (another Warner Bros. product, by the way), the nasty girls work through a blue testament series of sex scenarios that covers the familiar turf of "Wet Dreams" and dull boyfriends. Unlike The Time, these daughters of controversy aren't from Minnesota's backwoods or alleys. Susan's from the Caribbean, Brenda's from Boston and the beautiful Vanity is a Canadian export from Toronto. How all three came to be Prince's V- girls is a case Kojak might consider.

The babes in lingerie share neither The Time's hit-hopping party funk or their home addresses. Instead, His Royal Badness has hung a more British brand of syntho-pop behind the album's best cuts, while snatching a JB lick for workouts like "Nasty Girls." In a live setting, The Time backs Vanity, with you know who looking over their shoulders. You see, it's family affair. And it's becoming so solidified that even Prince has begun dropping joke lines about Jamie Starr and his too wild and loose offspring. "Jamie Starr's a thief," he says on the new 1999 album. "The Time will fix your clock," and "Vanity 6 is so sweet" he mugs during "Dance,Music,Sex,Romance." So what if Prince is indeed the mystery man pulling the wool over our eyes? He's pitting people to work and giving the rest of the general population a proven formula for outrageousness in this year's unending depression. And so far, Prince's potent prescriptions have proven to be the most satisfying lethal doses of fun any listener on the rock or soul front lines, could ask for. Besides, his low profile, high octane output and pet projects give people here in the Twin Cities bars something to talk about all winter other than the cold. Did you think Prince wore those leg-warmers just for show?

OldFriends4Sale said:

You should get hipped to how protege is used in "Prince" culture. I posted the general, definition earlier.

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We have to understand how it is translated according to Prince overall.

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And me looking at someone who I don't personally know, and they don't know me, yet they inspire me is not what makes a protege.

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Larry Graham was Larry Graham, by the time Prince produced an album/music for him. Larry Graham didn't change anything about Larry Graham, to reflect Prince during the period it happened.

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When Andy Allo came out, Prince 'intimately' directed her style, sound, look, band etc

This really helps, as does your mention of some similar situations, e.g. Rick James!

So Prince-culture sorts of proteges would be people that significantly change their visuals and/or sound to conform to a vision and/or sound created/inspired by another person(s). Often (or always?) the proteges reflect a side of that other person(s).

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a few random thoughts:

As far as I know, the requirement of personally knowing someone pretty well extends to the more general definition of protege, to the way the word is used across worlds/time/fields.

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It does get a little confusing, as there are purple-world observations that Prince (presumably even more than other producers) puts the "Prince sound" on people he produces. So that would imply that to a degree, the person's sound is changed to a Prince-world sound.

Also interesting that Prince has been described as relatively reluctant to produce some people who he considered musical greats. "What business to I have telling them what to do?" I think it was Alan Leeds who said in some of those cases, P would offer up songs.

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May I ask, what period did you start following Prince?

Most people who became fans in the 80s and early 90s were sorta hipped on who was a Prince protege and who was a fan who tried copying the sound, and who picked up a look or sound via another Prince protege

ie Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis(ex proteges the Time) worked with Janet Jackson(who was a huge Prince and the Time fan) if you look at the Control album era it is clearly pulling from the Prince 'culture'

Ready 4 the World not associate with Prince in any way, copied aspects of the Prince scene to the point people assumed they came out of Prince's camp. They did not. They are not associated nor are they proteges.

Prince gave Madonna a few flowery/paisley coats and gave her a song. But Madonna was never a Prince protege.

Someone having a Prince sound/Prince song, like the Bangles and Sheena Easton does not make them proteges. They continued in their direction, at the same time Prince gave them a song(which is usually a song from an earlier era-an era Prince is moved from. Manic Monday is a Purple Rain outtake, he gave it to them during the Parade era.

He considered Chaka Khan a musical great and produced her. (He usually does when the persons career is low) He wrote a song for Joni Mitchell someone he's said whose music should be taught in school.

Again, being a fan of Prince since 1981 and watching him since 1979, having discussed this stuff so much, it's like a 2nd thought on who a protege is.

Jamie Starr, Alexander Nevermind, Joey Coco, Austra Chanel ... after the 1980s the Prince camp/Minneapolis Sound -Uptown / Erotic City / Paisley Park was over

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The Time

Vanity 6

Sheila E

Apollonia 6

the Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

Madhouse

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Carmen Electra

Anna Fantastic (was on her way to being one)
Robin Power and the Uptown Dames (were on their way to being one)

emesem said:

Elisa Fiorillo

Nikka Costa

Sheena Easton

Candy Dulfer

Martika

The Bangles

The Three Oclock

How about Taja Sevelle?

GaryMF said:

Sheila E owns this thread

She thinks she owns everything else Prince-related anyway.

emesem said:

Elisa Fiorillo

Nikka Costa

Sheena Easton

Candy Dulfer

Martika

The Bangles

The Three Oclock

No one is considering Sheena Easton a Prince protege. There's a distinction here that you're not mentioning.

People who didn't have a career or record before Prince, and that Prince wrote music for and released an album, tutored them, etc.
People who were established in the business somewhere before meeting/knowing/collaborating with Prince.

That said, none of the people you listed are proteges. He gave one song to The Bangles, one to The Three O'Clock, did Candy have her own Paisley Park album? I don't know about Elisa's past. But Nikka was around already, and Sheena - well I was listening to Sheena Easton 7" singles when I was a pre-teen.

That'd be like listing Mavis Staples, George Clinton, Chaka Khan, Najee, Maceo Parker, or Larry Graham as proteges. Judith Hill has been around for years, and was singing for Michael Jackson before Prince got her (among others).

Sheila E. was around a very long time before Prince got his hands on her. Remember, she was already in a Lionel Richie video, and was his drummer on tour (I think the Pointer Sisters opened for that tour; my aunt saw it). Sure Prince gave her a record contract, and a slew of songs, but even without that, she'd have continued to play with whoever as a touring or session musician and made money. And frankly, we'd not have to endure her claiming the rights to the throne post-mortem aka The Sheila E. Show. But I digress...

It's why most of these people should be considered associates, which is also why this forum is named as such.

I wouldn't even consider Jam & Lewis a protege on their own as a production team. They were stepping out of Prince's shadow and had ambitions beyond playing with The Time. But with The Time, sure.

People like Apollonia 6, Vanity 6, The Time, Jill Jones, The Family, Carmen Electra, Mayte, are proteges. Most folks we know are collaborators, or just had an opportunity to play with Prince for a while.

No Taja isn't a protege. He gave her one song. She had an album on PP records, as did Good Question (who didn't even get a song at all). Same with The Bangles or The Three O'Clock who were both established bands well before Prince.

OldFriends4Sale said:

May I ask, what period did you start following Prince?

Most people who became fans in the 80s and early 90s were sorta hipped on who was a Prince protege and who was a fan who tried copying the sound, and who picked up a look or sound via another Prince protege

ie Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis(ex proteges the Time) worked with Janet Jackson(who was a huge Prince and the Time fan) if you look at the Control album era it is clearly pulling from the Prince 'culture'

Ready 4 the World not associate with Prince in any way, copied aspects of the Prince scene to the point people assumed they came out of Prince's camp. They did not. They are not associated nor are they proteges.

Prince gave Madonna a few flowery/paisley coats and gave her a song. But Madonna was never a Prince protege.

Someone having a Prince sound/Prince song, like the Bangles and Sheena Easton does not make them proteges. They continued in their direction, at the same time Prince gave them a song(which is usually a song from an earlier era-an era Prince is moved from. Manic Monday is a Purple Rain outtake, he gave it to them during the Parade era.

He considered Chaka Khan a musical great and produced her. (He usually does when the persons career is low) He wrote a song for Joni Mitchell someone he's said whose music should be taught in school.

Again, being a fan of Prince since 1981 and watching him since 1979, having discussed this stuff so much, it's like a 2nd thought on who a protege is.

Jamie Starr, Alexander Nevermind, Joey Coco, Austra Chanel ... after the 1980s the Prince camp/Minneapolis Sound -Uptown / Erotic City / Paisley Park was over

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The Time

Vanity 6

Sheila E

Apollonia 6

the Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

Madhouse

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Carmen Electra

Anna Fantastic (was on her way to being one)
Robin Power and the Uptown Dames (were on their way to being one)

In the early 80's.

It helped when you said it was about being a Prince protege, because that's (P world) how I got my first ideas about proteges.

It was one of those vocab words I didn't have a good handle outside of the Prince world, and in my (middle, LOL) age having become more familiar with the word, it started me wondering why the Prince world adopted the word. I would guess it was because "protege(e)" makes a good start toward describing what happened in the Prince world. Starting form the (boring, ordinary world's : ) ) defintion of protege), a Prince-world protege is really all that and more.

Have also been thinking recently about a minor question. If one of the essential characteristics of a Prince-world protege is an artist changing look and/or sound to express a purple-world vision, and P is a producer known for "making stuff sound like Prince," is being produced by Prince a sort of place in between collaborator and protege?

I appreciate the examples you gave, and to comment on just one, I'm embarrased to admit that I had no idea Prince wrote Manic Monday until many years after hearing the Bangles sing it. I mention that because on the one hand, it was one of the most fun things ever to learn that he wrote it and think: wow, I can definitely picture that, now that I know. Such an infectious, flirty, fun song. Fits right in with the powers of Prince : ). But in connection with your points, the Bangles, even when singing Manic Monday, never had a purple-world feel to me. Their visual, and the sound of their Manic Monday, didn't take me there. Loved their Manic Monday, but it did not transport me there. : )

Will leave this discussion to savvier minds. Thanks much for the information and exchange!

TrivialPursuit said:

emesem said:

Elisa Fiorillo

Nikka Costa

Sheena Easton

Candy Dulfer

Martika

The Bangles

The Three Oclock

No one is considering Sheena Easton a Prince protege. There's a distinction here that you're not mentioning.

People who didn't have a career or record before Prince, and that Prince wrote music for and released an album, tutored them, etc.
People who were established in the business somewhere before meeting/knowing/collaborating with Prince.

That said, none of the people you listed are proteges. He gave one song to The Bangles, one to The Three O'Clock, did Candy have her own Paisley Park album? I don't know about Elisa's past. But Nikka was around already, and Sheena - well I was listening to Sheena Easton 7" singles when I was a pre-teen.

That'd be like listing Mavis Staples, George Clinton, Chaka Khan, Najee, Maceo Parker, or Larry Graham as proteges. Judith Hill has been around for years, and was singing for Michael Jackson before Prince got her (among others).

Sheila E. was around a very long time before Prince got his hands on her. Remember, she was already in a Lionel Richie video, and was his drummer on tour (I think the Pointer Sisters opened for that tour; my aunt saw it). Sure Prince gave her a record contract, and a slew of songs, but even without that, she'd have continued to play with whoever as a touring or session musician and made money. And frankly, we'd not have to endure her claiming the rights to the throne post-mortem aka The Sheila E. Show. But I digress...

It's why most of these people should be considered associates, which is also why this forum is named as such.

I wouldn't even consider Jam & Lewis a protege on their own as a production team. They were stepping out of Prince's shadow and had ambitions beyond playing with The Time. But with The Time, sure.

People like Apollonia 6, Vanity 6, The Time, Jill Jones, The Family, Carmen Electra, Mayte, are proteges. Most folks we know are collaborators, or just had an opportunity to play with Prince for a while.

No Taja isn't a protege. He gave her one song. She had an album on PP records, as did Good Question (who didn't even get a song at all). Same with The Bangles or The Three O'Clock who were both established bands well before Prince.

My quote/question is missing.

Yeah I sorta was thinking the same. She wasn't "IN" the Prince scene, and at first (back then) I thought her look with the jeans suit connected me with Prince in his jean outfit. But quickly realized she was one of the firsts on the PP label not a Prince protege.

Yep Jimmy Terry & Jesse and Morris would not be considered proteges on their own/after Prince but ex-proteges as the Time.

Sheila E was a protege though. That was the monster Prince created in the long run lol I respect her. But it was Prince that got her out front, and did his thing to inspire her to compete against him now that the Time were not there. I was listening to one of the PR soundchecks or rehearsals and I think it was Jerk Out/Chocolate with the Revolution where he is talking junk about Sheila and her group and how they can't touch them.
That mid 1986 interview with Lisa and Wendy, there is a part where the band was doing their thing and clearly a 'competitive' spirity was fostered between the bands. Nothing like the Time, but it was interesting reading the behind the scenes stuff.

Anyone have the interview from last year I believe where Jill Jones is talking about when Sheila E first came 'Uptown' in the football jersey?

rednblue said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

May I ask, what period did you start following Prince?

Most people who became fans in the 80s and early 90s were sorta hipped on who was a Prince protege and who was a fan who tried copying the sound, and who picked up a look or sound via another Prince protege

ie Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis(ex proteges the Time) worked with Janet Jackson(who was a huge Prince and the Time fan) if you look at the Control album era it is clearly pulling from the Prince 'culture'

Ready 4 the World not associate with Prince in any way, copied aspects of the Prince scene to the point people assumed they came out of Prince's camp. They did not. They are not associated nor are they proteges.

Prince gave Madonna a few flowery/paisley coats and gave her a song. But Madonna was never a Prince protege.

Someone having a Prince sound/Prince song, like the Bangles and Sheena Easton does not make them proteges. They continued in their direction, at the same time Prince gave them a song(which is usually a song from an earlier era-an era Prince is moved from. Manic Monday is a Purple Rain outtake, he gave it to them during the Parade era.

He considered Chaka Khan a musical great and produced her. (He usually does when the persons career is low) He wrote a song for Joni Mitchell someone he's said whose music should be taught in school.

Again, being a fan of Prince since 1981 and watching him since 1979, having discussed this stuff so much, it's like a 2nd thought on who a protege is.

Jamie Starr, Alexander Nevermind, Joey Coco, Austra Chanel ... after the 1980s the Prince camp/Minneapolis Sound -Uptown / Erotic City / Paisley Park was over

.

The Time

Vanity 6

Sheila E

Apollonia 6

the Family

Mazarati

Jill Jones

Madhouse

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Carmen Electra

Anna Fantastic (was on her way to being one)
Robin Power and the Uptown Dames (were on their way to being one)

In the early 80's.

It helped when you said it was about being a Prince protege, because that's (P world) how I got my first ideas about proteges.

It was one of those vocab words I didn't have a good handle outside of the Prince world, and in my (middle, LOL) age having become more familiar with the word, it started me wondering why the Prince world adopted the word. I would guess it was because "protege(e)" makes a good start toward describing what happened in the Prince world. Starting form the (boring, ordinary world's : ) ) defintion of protege), a Prince-world protege is really all that and more.

Have also been thinking recently about a minor question. If one of the essential characteristics of a Prince-world protege is an artist changing look and/or sound to express a purple-world vision, and P is a producer known for "making stuff sound like Prince," is being produced by Prince a sort of place in between collaborator and protege?

I appreciate the examples you gave, and to comment on just one, I'm embarrased to admit that I had no idea Prince wrote Manic Monday until many years after hearing the Bangles sing it. I mention that because on the one hand, it was one of the most fun things ever to learn that he wrote it and think: wow, I can definitely picture that, now that I know. Such an infectious, flirty, fun song. Fits right in with the powers of Prince : ). But in connection with your points, the Bangles, even when singing Manic Monday, never had a purple-world feel to me. Their visual, and the sound of their Manic Monday, didn't take me there. Loved their Manic Monday, but it did not transport me there. : )

Will leave this discussion to savvier minds. Thanks much for the information and exchange!

Yes. When Prince put his touch on something/someone back then you knew it. And took interest.
After 1987 the purple kingdom fell away. The protege scene wasn't working anymore. I alway tried to check to see what was happening but nothing was really.
Robin Power and the Uptown Dames were around in the 1989 period when the Lovesexy band was still active. They wore outfits similar to Cat's Lovesexy pieces. Cat doesn't like that people think Robin is her. There is an interview of Sheila E coming to Paisley Park after her recovery and and the Uptown Dames were rehearsing and she wasn't too pleasant to them.

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Robin was the one who introduced Carmen to Prince

and Anna Fantastic was there from the Lovesexy period.

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I still would have liked for Prince to had worked with the other two. What would GB have been like with the Uptown Dames.

It seem the midas touch was forever gone. The energy had changed.

Prince didn't have the IT factor anymore so it translated to the other side projects.

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I don't think just being produced by Prince would make a person a collaborative protege type.
Just an artist that Prince did a song for. Because that is usually how it went. The band might have done the song over themselves, but it was to sound similar to Prince. Chaka Khan changed If Feel For You totally.

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A Prince protege was interconnected to his scene/album.

Controversy - the Time

1999 - What Time Is It? - Vanity 6

Purple Rain - Ice Cream Castles - Apollonia 6 - the Glamorous Life

ATWIAD -
Romance 1600 - the Family - Mazarati - Parade - Sheila E - (some time changes happened with the ATWIAD period because they didn't tour it, and the so the next protege albums became forerunners to Prince's next album

SOTT - Madhouse (Prince wanted Jill to be more interconnected and even wear a heart on her wrist, but she rejected the move wanting to be independant from the scene)

Yes, the Revolution performed Manic Monday on the Parade tour a few times, and twice Prince performed with the Bangles on Manic Monday, the 2nd time was late October early November 1986 after the break up, Prince and Wendy took the stage with the band on the song and then jammed with them.

Robin Power: Diary of an ...rince.org)

As far as Sheila E is concerned &; no, I didn't snub her. In fact, Im sorry to say that she snubbed us Dames.

She and a friend came in un-announced to see one of our rehearsals and listened to us play for a while. They were kinda walking around amongst us checking out the band. Can you imagine playing and watching that out of the corner of your eye? (And yes, I knew who Sheila was).

On the outside, we played it cool; although inside, we were star-struck-panting-drooling-fans-turned-Paisley-Park-newbie-protégé-subordinates.

When we finished a song, something happened but I didnt see it cuz I was the musical director and probably was distracted by some technical concern. (I kinda wish I hadnt been the director cuz I probably would have enjoyed myself more like some of the other Dames.)

Anyway, they walked around and stopped and leaned against the wall close to me. Sheila looked good and was dressed to the tee and she had these shades on. She and her friend seemed kinda distant (and I;m very sensitive to that) so I didnt say anything. I vaguely remember one of the Dames saying, & Its an honor to meet you,&; or something like that, and she barely acknowledged that. She was really on the &;Im a such a star" vibe. So what else do you say? Nothing &ya just kinda stare. But not too long cuz you dont want to look like too much of a geek. Soon they left.

Later on, I learned that our drummer Kim had tried to say something (probably while I was distracted) but apparently felt snubbed. Which is such a shame because Sheila was Kims idol &; being a female drummer and all. Kim said she was so disappointed and lost respect for Sheila. I felt so sorry for Kim; imagine your idol becoming a reality and treating you like that. I still feel for her.

I guess while we admired Sheila, she probably saw us as competition. Too bad – we didn’t see it that way at the time. On the other hand, she could have just been uncomfortable with our hero worship – I’ve seen other celebs become quiet cuz of that when I was on tour with them.

Prince & Carmen Electra ~ 1990-1992

OldFriends4Sale said:

woogiebear said:

Margie Cox aka TaMara

Yes, she was a Jesse Johnson protege

she was pulled into Prince's camp but nothing further came of it.

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Because he blocked her career for the better part of a decade while he was whining about freedom.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but Prince took to Larry Graham when Sly rejected him.

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LG and Sly had parted ways in the early 1970s (plenty of nasty stories about that) and LG had a bunch of hits with GCS. Then Larry found religion, GCS petered out and LG became more of a smooth crooner and then he could only get stuff released in Japan and then even that dried up.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I guess if Kim Bassinger actually came out with an album by Prince in 1989/90 she might have been.

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For the record: https://musicfans.stackex...a/5508/129 .

BartVanHemelen said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I guess if Kim Bassinger actually came out with an album by Prince in 1989/90 she might have been.

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For the record: https://musicfans.stackex...a/5508/129 .

Good info but,

Is there something there about Kim Bassinger?

BartVanHemelen said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, she was a Jesse Johnson protege

she was pulled into Prince's camp but nothing further came of it.

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Because he blocked her career for the better part of a decade while he was whining about freedom.

Right

I wish Prince focused on Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic 1989-90 instead of Graffiti Bridge

Most likely would not have matched the 1982-1986 protege period but it would have been more interesting: Kim Bassinger, Carmen Electra, Anna Fantasic and Robin Power & the Uptown Dames

I think the Time conceived movie would have been cool.

GB as a Purple Rain pt II was just dumb

check out the 1985 Maria Shriver interview with Sheila E where she acknowledges and accepts being a Prince protege

emesem said:

Elisa Fiorillo

Nikka Costa

Sheena Easton

Candy Dulfer

Martika

The Bangles

The Three Oclock

I never thought anyone believed these were proteges. Sheena Easton? THe Bangles? They were famous and had mainstream hits before Prince and everyone knew it.

kitbradley said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

add Chaka Khan too

There is definately a difference in Prince writing a song for someone vs him bringing someone under his wing and into his camp and remaking them.

He did none of that with any of those above. Sheena Easton he could have...

Who on earth thought Chaka was a Prince protege??? Or Sheena?

I was listening to Chaka belt it out with Rufus when Prince was daydreaming in school...

Sonny Thompson had a significant presence while Prince was coming up.

He was 'The Dude' in No. Minnie.