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Reply #60 posted 04/18/20 7:20am

laytonian

united1878 said:

9to5People said:
Why should Sheila E respond to Apples rantings? IF what Apples alleges is true she should be talking to the police (not the court of public opinion). Also a while back didn't apples say that prince was murdered and she knew who (or something to that effect). Apollonia has a, let's say, creative view of reality. Morbidly Fascinating in a way similar to driving past a car crash.
Very good point- if Apollonia is so convinced about the keeping of charity $ then it should be reported. So far, I've seen Brenda, Susannah, Jill and Cat all show support to Apollonia's words.


Only about the damned cake. It's a ridiculous food fight.

Susan Rogers made him cakes.
Big Chick's wife made him cakes.
LeRoy Bennett made him cakes.
Sheila E made him cakes.
I'll bet almost everyone made cakes for him.

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Reply #61 posted 04/18/20 7:25am

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laytonian said:



BklynDiamond said:


Cat reposted Apples post on her page and endorsed it. Guess she is on the outside with SE too.


Those two are mad because they're never part of a tribute. This happens every time.



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Reply #62 posted 04/18/20 7:27am

9to5People

Maybe, just maybe, more than one person baked him a cake... It's a stretch, but possible.



laytonian said:



united1878 said:


9to5People said:
Why should Sheila E respond to Apples rantings? IF what Apples alleges is true she should be talking to the police (not the court of public opinion). Also a while back didn't apples say that prince was murdered and she knew who (or something to that effect). Apollonia has a, let's say, creative view of reality. Morbidly Fascinating in a way similar to driving past a car crash.

Very good point- if Apollonia is so convinced about the keeping of charity $ then it should be reported. So far, I've seen Brenda, Susannah, Jill and Cat all show support to Apollonia's words.


Only about the damned cake. It's a ridiculous food fight.

Susan Rogers made him cakes.
Big Chick's wife made him cakes.
LeRoy Bennett made him cakes.
Sheila E made him cakes.
I'll bet almost everyone made cakes for him.

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Reply #63 posted 04/18/20 8:42am

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leadline said:

You all are so programmed and you don't even realize it, propogating a false narrative that was spoon fed to you all on a plate of lies. Headlines is all that matters these days apparantly, not evidence, not substance, not the truth. The impressionable nature of folks today and the ability for them to be decieved at the drop of a dime is truly sad.

Wake up people, there are bigger things happening here, but if you all wanna exist in the false bubble that has been created for you all, that is your decision, and that is just where they want you, but just understand that in doing so, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Then by all means, enlighten us.

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Reply #64 posted 04/18/20 8:54am

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PennyPurple said:


It's made it's way to Billboard...


Billboard has reached out to Sheila E.'s rep for comment and will update the article when we hear back.

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This reporter is sto stupid she didn't even fact chek her own article. "Apollonia" herself has stated she NEVER was Prince's "girlfriend" (or a singer for that matter), rather "an actress hired to play the part of a singer in a movie".

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She was either married or engaged during PR as well.

"Following the release of Sheila E.'s "Lemon Cake," a tribute to the late icon Prince, his Purple Rain co-star and onetime girlfriend Apollonia Kotero took to Facebook to call Sheila out in a scathing post."

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Reply #65 posted 04/18/20 9:03am

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leadline said:

You all are so programmed and you don't even realize it, propogating a false narrative that was spoon fed to you all on a plate of lies. Headlines is all that matters these days apparantly, not evidence, not substance, not the truth. The impressionable nature of folks today and the ability for them to be decieved at the drop of a dime is truly sad.

Wake up people, there are bigger things happening here, but if you all wanna exist in the false bubble that has been created for you all, that is your decision, and that is just where they want you, but just understand that in doing so, you are part of the problem, not the solution.


The tinfoil hat sitting too tight?
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Reply #66 posted 04/18/20 9:42am

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Funny how Miss Kotero seems to be getting a pass for her not-so-thinly-veiled HOMOPHOBIA (i.e. the "Prince said you're a HeShe!!!") comment.

[Edited 4/18/20 9:42am]

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Reply #67 posted 04/18/20 10:02am

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GaryMF said:

Funny how Miss Kotero seems to be getting a pass for her not-so-thinly-veiled HOMOPHOBIA (i.e. the "Prince said you're a HeShe!!!") comment.

[Edited 4/18/20 9:42am]


Not from me, but yep.

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Reply #68 posted 04/18/20 10:04am

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JudasLChrist said:



GaryMF said:


Funny how Miss Kotero seems to be getting a pass for her not-so-thinly-veiled HOMOPHOBIA (i.e. the "Prince said you're a HeShe!!!") comment.


[Edited 4/18/20 9:42am]




Not from me, but yep.


I’m wondering if he really called Shelia “He/She”? I mean, that’s the pot calling the kettle black.
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Reply #69 posted 04/18/20 10:05am

GustavoRibas

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BklynDiamond said:

Cat reposted Apples post on her page and endorsed it. Guess she is on the outside with SE too.

- According to an article, Susannah Melvoin agreed with Apollonia too. That´s why I took it more seriously.

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BTW, does anybody know how was Prince´s relationship with Sheila in the 2000s? She performed in some concerts on 20Ten tour, but I dont know how their relationship was after that

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Reply #70 posted 04/18/20 10:17am

SoulAlive

GustavoRibas said:



BklynDiamond said:


Cat reposted Apples post on her page and endorsed it. Guess she is on the outside with SE too.

- According to an article, Susannah Melvoin agreed with Apollonia too. That´s why I took it more seriously.


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BTW, does anybody know how was Prince´s relationship with Sheila in the 2000s? She performed in some concerts on 20Ten tour, but I dont know how their relationship was after that



I remember she got pissed at Prince when he removed her (and her family) from one of his shows and replaced her with Larry Graham.Can’t remember when this was but she vowed never to work with him ever again.
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Reply #71 posted 04/18/20 11:04am

SoulAlive

leadline said:

You all are so programmed and you don't even realize it, propogating a false narrative that was spoon fed to you all on a plate of lies. Headlines is all that matters these days apparantly, not evidence, not substance, not the truth. The impressionable nature of folks today and the ability for them to be decieved at the drop of a dime is truly sad.

Wake up people, there are bigger things happening here, but if you all wanna exist in the false bubble that has been created for you all, that is your decision, and that is just where they want you, but just understand that in doing so, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

hmmm Please elaborate.Give us the REAL narrative.What's the real story here?

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Reply #72 posted 04/18/20 11:32am

icecreamcastle
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PennyPurple said:


It's made it's way to Billboard...



Billboard has reached out to Sheila E.'s rep for comment and will update the article when we hear back.













https://www.billboard.com...-criticism







Thanks for the update.
Billboard needs to do some fact checking to save their own credibility. First they put Apollonia's photo on an article talking about Sheila E making lemon cake ( I guarantee Apollonia was tight about that from the get go...) Girl HATES when she's mistaken in a photo. Trust. She dang near lost her mind at this dude who posted about it in a Facebook group for pointing out to her that a drawing she posted was not her, but Vanity...
https://66.media.tumblr.c...9f0544.jpg

This is pure foolishness from Billboard too. "Prince's "Purple Rain" co-star & onetime girlfriend takes issue with the drummer's new song "Lemon Cake" in honor of the late pop superstar."

Don't everybody know by now that Apollonia was married at the time she did Purple Rain and was never Prince's girlfriend? I bet she won't correct them about that though...
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Reply #73 posted 04/18/20 11:39am

BartVanHemelen

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laytonian said:

united1878 said:

9to5People said: Very good point- if Apollonia is so convinced about the keeping of charity $ then it should be reported. So far, I've seen Brenda, Susannah, Jill and Cat all show support to Apollonia's words.


Only about the damned cake. It's a ridiculous food fight.

Susan Rogers made him cakes.
Big Chick's wife made him cakes.
LeRoy Bennett made him cakes.
Sheila E made him cakes.
I'll bet almost everyone made cakes for him.

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But Sheila is the one claiming it originated with her. Meanwhile LeRoy did it years earlier and there apparently even is a song about this in the vault.

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Reply #74 posted 04/18/20 11:51am

TrivialPursuit

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GaryMF said:

Funny how Miss Kotero seems to be getting a pass for her not-so-thinly-veiled HOMOPHOBIA (i.e. the "Prince said you're a HeShe!!!") comment.


But if she's quoting Prince, then you're aiming at the wrong target.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #75 posted 04/18/20 11:57am

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I'm going to copy & paste what I put on my Instagram earlier about this. And my sentiments go back on the Org, too. At some point, it just ticked that Sheila was more interested in riding that dead man wave than anything to honor his legacy.

I'm not trying to be a hater on anybody. I have been saying this stuff about a certain former Prince associate drummer for YEARS. Apollonia Kotero has the balls to say it out loud and have someone hear her. everybody thinks I'm a hater because I'm not cozying up to every single purple associate. And while I love all of them, the truth is the truth. We can't gaslight ourselves into some false fantasy because of a hypocritical clout chaser wearing a dead man's clothes and jacking his trademark and name.

What Apollonia said in her post is 100% on point. PAY ATTENTION to who was around and who wasn't before he died.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. But where there was Sheila E., there was an ulterior motive.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #76 posted 04/18/20 11:59am

TrivialPursuit

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BUT she did do a LOT of Prince songs. Not just the ones he wrote for her. HIS songs that we all know. Was just a bit strange. I'd rather hear her do HER songs.


Let's keep it 100: Any song anyone wants to hear from her are Prince songs, whether they were on her album or a Prince album. She was around and had a solid rep before Prince, but she wouldn't be who she is today if it weren't for him. She'd still be a session player and probably happy doing it.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #77 posted 04/18/20 12:24pm

Phase3

I believe apollonia on this one.Someone mentioned that we should pay attention to who was around and who wasn't around at the time of prince's passing.From what I ubderstand,sheila e and prince were on bad terms since for a few years but apollonia was invited by prince to paisley park and was even apart of the cover for the "this could b us" single.
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Reply #78 posted 04/18/20 1:11pm

Mikado

Sheila's story about being engaged to Prince is looking pretty suspicious now.

I wonder if Prince was just Sheila's beard...
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Reply #79 posted 04/18/20 1:43pm

MIInsane

Apollonia isn't wrong.

I find it funny that, when her career was in it's prime, she did nothing but talk about how she had a career before she met Prince and he wasn't responsible for her fame. Yet, after Prince's death, none of the former associated artists have used their connection to Prince more than Sheila.

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Reply #80 posted 04/18/20 2:17pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

LIBRA said:

BUT she did do a LOT of Prince songs. Not just the ones he wrote for her. HIS songs that we all know. Was just a bit strange. I'd rather hear her do HER songs.


Let's keep it 100: Any song anyone wants to hear from her are Prince songs, whether they were on her album or a Prince album. She was around and had a solid rep before Prince, but she wouldn't be who she is today if it weren't for him. She'd still be a session player and probably happy doing it.

I have to agree on that too, I am not really interested in her solo work without his input. I think there is something to say of that also because I feel she thinks because she is very well regarded as a musician and by others and even by the fans, it used to be a crime if you said you liked another drummer over her, i told someone I preferred Hannah Welton over her and they went nuts like i killed their dog. I think Shelia honestly felt or feels a bit entitled to have her "say" in these matters, or that she is owed something. I know there was a time when her and Prince were not on good terms at all, and that i believe was up till she performed with him at the show where Obama was in 2009 or something like that but i do remember her mentioning after his death in an interview she and him didnt agree because of his language on records during the 90s and what he was doing. But again that could be because he got married in that time and as Prince said he got married and the phone stopped "ringing" no one (female) kept touch now what we are seeing and hearing now it seems the same petty BS coming from the 80's camp. On the music front I am not a big fan of her work solo a song hear and there even with his input, i think in later years people like Andy Allo and Judith Hill, Prince was diving more into more seasoned artists not that shelia lacks talent she totally has it I just never felt it got anywhere after his input, where as Judith and Andy their work is even better when he was not involved.


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Reply #81 posted 04/18/20 2:17pm

icecreamcastle
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Dang, it's hit the fan. Rollingstone picked up the story today...

https://www.rollingstone....ke-986407/
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Reply #82 posted 04/18/20 2:30pm

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lastdecember said:

I have to agree on that too, I am not really interested in her solo work without his input. I think there is something to say of that also because I feel she thinks because she is very well regarded as a musician and by others and even by the fans, it used to be a crime if you said you liked another drummer over her, i told someone I preferred Hannah Welton over her and they went nuts like i killed their dog. I think Shelia honestly felt or feels a bit entitled to have her "say" in these matters, or that she is owed something. I know there was a time when her and Prince were not on good terms at all, and that i believe was up till she performed with him at the show where Obama was in 2009 or something like that but i do remember her mentioning after his death in an interview she and him didnt agree because of his language on records during the 90s and what he was doing.


I bolded the parts where I was yelling at my computer screen in agreement with you.

She even made a statement on Twitter or somewhere about how she would no longer be doing any work with Prince, at all. This was in the later aughts. The talk was that it was over money. I don't know if that's true or not. I remember the same talk when she left after Lovesexy. I can't see her being so high and mighty about language on a record, where the word 'fuck' was so clearly coming from his mouth and it was arguably his most popular B-side to date in the general public. She still sings the song, more than he did post-JW. (Yeah, I know she says funk.)

She may not have liked his language, but she still had no problem dressing up as him and dancing to a Linn drum loop one year when the Saints made it to the Super Bowl. She still doesn't seem to have a problem with all the other shit Kotero called her out on - a cruise (tasteless), his symbol all over her stuff (where's the trademark lawyers for fuck's sake?!), or even dressing in his 92/93 era outfits (as in the upcoming Grammys tribute). I really never thought ol' girl would put such a bad taste in my mouth, but ...here we are. And it's not just Apple's post - it's Sheila's actions. Ya notice her ass was right up there in the middle of Paisley Park for his memorial service. Sure ain't seen her be invited anywhere else, though. Revolution gigs? NPG gigs? I mean, maybe I missed it. Anyone? Anyone?

Just as a footnote: I think Michael B. was the baddest drummer Prince ever had. Just my two cents.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #83 posted 04/18/20 2:42pm

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Sheila E thought she was going to be the head of P's Estate, until she found out differently, and if I remember correctly, she put something on social media saying something to the effect that she is done with it...like who asked her to, anyway?


Then during the investigation she told Judith, to keep quiet and they could lawyer her up if they need too.


Sheila lies, her family and Santana's family are supposedly close, but Sheila didn't know Santana was married when she had an affair with him.


Someone said Wendy and Lisa haven't started any drama, YES they have. They've started drama all over the place.


They act like they were his best friends but where were they? Where were any of them, when P needed help?


Again, they just playin our emotions as they always do around this time and his birthday time. They tryin to bring the attention back to them, instead of us focusing our attention on P.

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Reply #84 posted 04/18/20 3:00pm

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PennyPurple said:

Sheila E thought she was going to be the head of P's Estate, until she found out differently, and if I remember correctly, she put something on social media saying something to the effect that she is done with it...like who asked her to, anyway?


Then during the investigation she told Judith, to keep quiet and they could lawyer her up if they need too.



Sheila lies, her family and Santana's family are supposedly close, but Sheila didn't know Santana was married when she had an affair with him.



Someone said Wendy and Lisa haven't started any drama, YES they have. They've started drama all over the place.



They act like they were his best friends but where were they? Where were any of them, when P needed help?



Again, they just playin our emotions as they always do around this time and his birthday time. They tryin to bring the attention back to them, instead of us focusing our attention on P.




Tell it. All of them, and I mean ALL OF THEM, stir the pot for drama and at some point or another use his death to their benefits. Look at even Roy and Brenda getting in their feelings over some stupid lemon cake and Susannah jumping on the band wagon backing Roy and stirring the pot like everyone couldn't at some point made the man some lemon cake. They all encourage the in-fighting. All of them.
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Reply #85 posted 04/18/20 3:29pm

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I don't know what to think other than the source here is ridiculous: Apollonia gets a lot of publicity claiming that Sheila is exploiting Prince and in the same release she refers that people will be able to read more details in her memoirs. Perhaps she shouldn't have slipped up and revealed herself. Not to say Sheila isn't exploiting Prince too. I just don't care for hypocrites.

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Reply #86 posted 04/18/20 3:47pm

kingricefan

Drama 101. Class is in session.......

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Reply #87 posted 04/18/20 4:08pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

GaryMF said:

Funny how Miss Kotero seems to be getting a pass for her not-so-thinly-veiled HOMOPHOBIA (i.e. the "Prince said you're a HeShe!!!") comment.


But if she's quoting Prince, then you're aiming at the wrong target.

No, because she's repeating it without calling it out. In effect she's calling Sheila a name but doesn't even the guts to do it herself.

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Reply #88 posted 04/18/20 4:10pm

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PennyPurple said:

Sheila E thought she was going to be the head of P's Estate, until she found out differently, and if I remember correctly, she put something on social media saying something to the effect that she is done with it...like who asked her to, anyway?


Then during the investigation she told Judith, to keep quiet and they could lawyer her up if they need too.


Sheila lies, her family and Santana's family are supposedly close, but Sheila didn't know Santana was married when she had an affair with him.


Someone said Wendy and Lisa haven't started any drama, YES they have. They've started drama all over the place.


They act like they were his best friends but where were they? Where were any of them, when P needed help?


Again, they just playin our emotions as they always do around this time and his birthday time. They tryin to bring the attention back to them, instead of us focusing our attention on P.

You have a vivid imagination.

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The only thing you said that's true is Sheila's affair with Santanna.

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Reply #89 posted 04/18/20 4:13pm

SoulAlive

I usually stay away from those scandalous,celebrity-tell all books but I gotta admit....I really wanna read Apollonia's book when it comes out eek biggrin

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