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Thread started 11/28/19 3:56pm

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Who Really Played on the TiMES 1st 2 Albums

Ive been really revisiting the TIMES 1st 2 Albums and I have to say it has to be Princes finest work that werent his Albums ( along with The Familys )

The Guitar & Keyboard solos really stand out differently from any Prince Album.

We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #1 posted 11/28/19 7:55pm

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Moving The Time to associated artists forum

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Reply #2 posted 11/29/19 9:10am

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The Time, home studio, April 1981 – album mixed in late April
Get It Up (9:05)*
Girl (5:34)*
After Hi School (4:20)* (Dez Dickerson)
Cool (10:06)* (Prince/Dez Dickerson)
Oh, Baby #2 (4:57)*
The Stick (8:23)* (Lisa Coleman/Prince)

Home studio, autumn-winter 1981
The Second Coming (1:58) (autumn)
Baby I’m A Star #1 (autumn/winter)
Rearrange #1 (7/12)
Baby I’m A Star #2 (7-8/12)
Let’s Work (Dance Remix) (8:02)* (8/12)
Feel U Up #1 (6:38) – segued with
Irresistible Bitch #1 (4:36) (winter)
Jerk Out #1 (late 1981) (Prince/Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis/Morris Day)

File:Thetime album.jpg

July 29. 1981 rel The Time[self titled album]

1.Get It Up

Image:Getitup single.jpg

rel 6.26.1981

Get it up (9:08)
recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1]

performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with

[Morris Day] (additional lead vocals)

& Matt Fink (synthesizer solos)

• final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited)

• registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1981 on the Album
[The Time]

• 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up]

• 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]

Get it up (edit / mono) (3:05)
finally released 1981 on the promo 7"-Single [Get it up]

Get it up (edit) (3:05)
finally released 1981 on the promo 7"-Single [Get it up]

• 1981 on the 7"-Single [Get it up]

• 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up]


2.Girl

Girl (5:36)
recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums and additional lead vocals) • final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1981 on the Album
[The Time]

3.After Hi School After hi school is registered to Morris Day, yet it was actually written and demoed by Dez Dickerson

recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by Dez Dickerson (uncredited) • registered to [Morris Day]
finally released 1981 on the Album [The Time] • 1981 on the 7"-Single [Get it up]

4.Cool Cool is registered as a collaboration of [Prince] (music) with Desmond "Dez" Dickerson (lyrics).

Writer(s): Prince (music) and Dez Dickerson (lyrics) (uncredited)

Cool" is a song by The Time, released as the second single from their eponymous debut album. Like most of the album, the song was recorded in Prince's home studio in April 1981, and was produced, arranged, and performed by Prince with Morris Day later adding his lead vocals. The song was co-written with Revolution guitarist Dez Dickerson and contains background vocals by keyboardist Lisa Coleman, however both were uncredited.(listed as "various girlfriends")

The classic video for the song is directed by Chuck Statler, who is best known for directing the early Devo videos



5.Oh, Baby (Prince & Morris Day(drums)


6.The Stick:The stick was originally written by Lisa Coleman, but it was registered to Jamie Starr.

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Prince initiated this album before the band had even been assembled. The record was completed in only two weeks in April 1981 at his home studio in the basement of his house at Lake Riley in Chanhassen, Minneapolis. Only Oh, Baby was recorded in April 1979 at Alpha Studios in Los Angeles during the sessions for his own 1979 album "Prince". The final mixing of the tapes took place at Hollywood Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, from 28th to 30th April 1981. [Prince] himself plays more or less every note on the album. Matt Fink delivers synthesizer solos on Get it up and The stick, while Lisa Coleman provides some backing vocals on Cool and The Stick. Prince's own voice is often audible in the final mix.

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On 29th July 1981 the first album [The Time] was released by Warner Bros. Records. The credits listed [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), [Terry Lewis] (bass), [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) as well as [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) as the members of the band. The production credit is shared by [Morris Day] with a guy named Jamie Starr, who had been first introduced as an engineer on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind". Neither record nor sleeve contains any songwriting credits. The music itself bears all the hallmarks of [Prince]'s synth-based Minneapolis-Sound and it didn't take long before stories start to circulating at the press, that [Prince] himself was behind this project - writing all songs, playing mosts instruments and producing the complete album, only utilizing [Morris Day] to add some vocals on the final mix.

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Andre Cymone, who played bass in [Prince]'s band, had been very involved in THE TIME project from the beginning. He was also assembling a girl group, called "The Girls", and saw the side projects as an opportunity to supplement his relatively small income from being a band member only. Andre claimed that he came up with many of the ideas for THE TIME before being muscled out of the project, wich led into falling out with [Prince]. The relationship between Andre Cymone and [Prince] had been deteriorating for some time. Andre felt, that he didn't receive enough credits for his input into [Prince]'s music and stage act, even accusing [Prince] of knowing stealing his ideas. He decided to leave [Prince]'s band and embark a solo-career. He accepted to participate in the upcoming european tour, but he left the band immediately afterwards.

Lisa Coleman later also reported, that [Prince] pulled stunts like turning home studio jams with [Morris Day] and her into material for THE TIME and another side-project, Vanity 6

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Reply #3 posted 11/29/19 12:23pm

jaawwnn

Fairly sure Lisa confirmed she didn't write The Stick (I'm thinking Casey Rain said he asked her?) but she's on vocals and maybe some keys on the album alrught.
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Reply #4 posted 11/30/19 6:58am

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jaawwnn said:

Fairly sure Lisa confirmed she didn't write The Stick (I'm thinking Casey Rain said he asked her?) but she's on vocals and maybe some keys on the album alrught.

no, she created a piece (vocal or musical) that Prince and them created the song around

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Reply #5 posted 11/30/19 7:24am

jaawwnn

OldFriends4Sale said:

jaawwnn said:

Fairly sure Lisa confirmed she didn't write The Stick (I'm thinking Casey Rain said he asked her?) but she's on vocals and maybe some keys on the album alrught.

no, she created a piece (vocal or musical) that Prince and them created the song around

aha, here we go





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Reply #6 posted 11/30/19 7:54am

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3. What Time Is It?

In late December 1981, during a break at his "Controversy"-Tour, [Prince] starts the recording sessions for THE TIME's second album. He recorded Gigolos get lonely too and Jerk out at his home studio again. The last mentioned song didn't make it on this album, but a reworked version surfaced on THE TIME's 1990 reunion-album [Pandemonium]. From 14th to 20th January 1982 the sessions continued at Hollywood Sunset Sound, where he recorded The walk, Wild and loose and a previously unreleased track called Colleen. Another previously unreleased leftover from this sessions was a song called Bold generation, recorded 11th January 1982 either at [Prince]'s home studio or Hollywood Sunset Sound.


After the 2nd leg of the "Controversy"-Tour and various sessions for his own new album "1999" as well as another project, the girl group Vanity 6, [Prince] continues the work for THE TIME. During May/June 1982 he recorded Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody, I don't wanna leave you, 777-9311 and Grace once again at his home studio. The last song ends finally up as the b-side of 777-9311. The sessions finished with final mixing at Hollywood Sunset Sound on 20th and 21st July 1982.

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The Time: What Time Is It?, home studio, 11 January 1982
Gigolos Get Lonely Too (4:40)*
Bold Generation

The Time: What Time Is It?, Sunset Sound, 14-20 January 1982
International Lover (6:35)* (14/1)

Initial tracking took place on 14 January, 1982 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (three days after Bold Generation and Gigolos Get Lonely Too, the same day as The Walk, and the day before Colleen), during sessions for The Time's second album What Time Is It?.

It was intended to be sung by Morris Day, but Prince reclaimed the song to use on 1999 instead. It is likely that Morris Day recorded vocals for the song during these sessions, but this is unconfirmed.

-PrinceVault


The Walk (9:30)* (14/1)
Colleen (15/1)
You’re All I Want #1 (16/1)
Wild And Loose (7:32)* (19/1) (Prince/Dez Dickerson)
Turn It Up (5:30) (20/1)
Turn It Up (Edit) (3:33)
Turn It Up (Part 2) (2:30)

Released August 25, 1982



WhatTimeIsIt.jpg

1 Wild and loose (7:34)
recorded 14th-20th January 1982 by [Prince] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals and drums) & Vanity 6 (background vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound
written by [Prince] with Dez Dickerson (both uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with Desmond D'Andrea Dickerson
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?]

Initial tracking took place on 19 January, 1982 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (three days after You're All I Want, and the day before Turn It Up). As with much of the What Time Is It album, the recording features only Prince and Morris Day.

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2 777-9311 8:05

Recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)

While reflecting on the track's history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson wrote "777-9311 Was A Stock Drum Beat In Prince's Linn LM-1 ($5,500 drum machine you know it wasn't The Time's) ... The beat was programed into the Linn LM1 by [ Tower of Power drummer] David Garibaldi ... for Roger Linn." (David Garibaldi's drumming would also be sampled, uncredited, years later on The Time's Release It.) He also added "Prince used my $179.00 Hondo Strat to play the chords on 777 (that's why the guitar sounds so nice and dull...cause it was cheap!)"

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3 Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody 2:26

recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)

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4 The Walk 9:31
recorded 14th-20th January 1982 by [Prince] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums and additional lead vocals) & Vanity 6 (background vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
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5 Gigolos Get Lonely Too 4:41

Recorded December 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums additional lead vocals) [Jesse Johnson] - guitar• final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
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6 I Don't Wanna Leave You 6:29

recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)

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Reply #7 posted 11/30/19 7:55am

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jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

no, she created a piece (vocal or musical) that Prince and them created the song around

aha, here we go





yep

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Reply #8 posted 12/03/19 2:24pm

jfenster

but will t he estate realize we would spend goo gobs of money for the Prince vocal versions of these albums?

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Reply #9 posted 12/07/19 5:40am

tab32792

jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

no, she created a piece (vocal or musical) that Prince and them created the song around

aha, here we go





contributing a lyric that sparked an idea doesn't = co writing

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Reply #10 posted 12/09/19 8:37am

jaawwnn

tab32792 said:

jaawwnn said:

aha, here we go





contributing a lyric that sparked an idea doesn't = co writing

shrug I wish you luck in your quest to amend the credits to the album.

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Reply #11 posted 12/09/19 10:12am

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jaawwnn said:

tab32792 said:

contributing a lyric that sparked an idea doesn't = co writing

shrug I wish you luck in your quest to amend the credits to the album.


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Reply #12 posted 12/13/19 4:09pm

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tab32792 said:

jaawwnn said:

aha, here we go





contributing a lyric that sparked an idea doesn't = co writing

Sometimes it does. I'm thinking of Berry Gordy giving co-writing credit to his secretary for "Money" when she contributed like one line or something. There are no rules.

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