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Reply #60 posted 04/25/19 4:29pm

ThatWhiteDude

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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

Genesia said:


Absolutely. And I think that in the throes of withdrawal, he simply forgot which bottle "those" pills were in (hell, they could have been in several - it sounds like he had many, many bottles scattered around Paisley Park, each with a jumble of pills inside) and took whatever he grabbed first. Horrible and tragic - but undeniably self inflicted.


What proof do you have that he "simply forgot which bottle" and everything else you posted above? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts. That is the difference between our approach, I have explored the facts and numbers provided, held off on speculation, and showed exactly why those numbers mean it had to be something other than pills. You want to start of with speculation and make it fact. That approach helps no-one but yourself.

Anyway, you will surely post a knee jerk response, and that is cool, I expect it, but I have said my piece, and folks can make of it what they will. I hold no animosity towards you nor anyone else that may disagree in part or in whole with the post.

What proof do you have that he was murdered? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts.

^^The same thing could be said about you, just saying. Unless you can provide real facts that he was murdered. But you can't.

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Reply #61 posted 04/26/19 7:31am

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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

Genesia said:


Absolutely. And I think that in the throes of withdrawal, he simply forgot which bottle "those" pills were in (hell, they could have been in several - it sounds like he had many, many bottles scattered around Paisley Park, each with a jumble of pills inside) and took whatever he grabbed first. Horrible and tragic - but undeniably self inflicted.


What proof do you have that he "simply forgot which bottle" and everything else you posted above? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts. That is the difference between our approach, I have explored the facts and numbers provided, held off on speculation, and showed exactly why those numbers mean it had to be something other than pills. You want to start of with speculation and make it fact. That approach helps no-one but yourself.

Anyway, you will surely post a knee jerk response, and that is cool, I expect it, but I have said my piece, and folks can make of it what they will. I hold no animosity towards you nor anyone else that may disagree in part or in whole with the post.


lol

No, you haven't looked at the numbers - which I have proven to be wrong. You continue to cling to one inaccurate news report and base your own little scenario on that. You are the one who is stating opinion as fact, not I.

Once again, you did not read what I wrote. Obviously, the words "I think" mean that I am stating an opinion. Opinions, by definition, do not require proof; however, mine jives with everything we know to be true from official reports and the events that preceded Prince's death.

Assertions that Prince was murdered, on the other hand, are the wildest sort of speculation - and are unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.

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Reply #62 posted 04/26/19 11:42am

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He wasn't murdered and people like Apples just keep feeding that bandwagon. mad

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Reply #63 posted 04/27/19 9:40pm

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PennyPurple said:

He wasn't murdered and people like Apples just keep feeding that bandwagon. mad


I agree. I can only think it's a roundabout way of implying the inner circle who enabled his habit were the "murderers". If she actually means he was "murdered" murdered, then she really is either a fruitloop, trying to make herself relevant again, after a juicy book deal, or all of the above.
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Reply #64 posted 04/28/19 6:53am

ladygirl99

I think that what people indicating he was murdered because they did little to help his drug issues. But if it is something else she could be more clear about it or otherwise she should kept her thoughts to herself.

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Reply #65 posted 04/28/19 7:01am

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Whoever actually made those pills can be viewed by others as a "murderer" and be charged if caught. Involuntary manslaughter may be the charge, but I am not a lawyer so can't say for sure, but I don't know for sure how she intends it to be used. Here's a breakdown of homicide https://criminal.findlaw....tion.html

[Edited 4/28/19 7:03am]

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Reply #66 posted 04/28/19 7:41am

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Mumio said:

Whoever actually made those pills can be viewed by others as a "murderer" and be charged if caught. Involuntary manslaughter may be the charge, but I am not a lawyer so can't say for sure, but I don't know for sure how she intends it to be used. Here's a breakdown of homicide https://criminal.findlaw....tion.html

[Edited 4/28/19 7:03am]

Yes, it was publicly stated that the Feds were trying to trace the pills back to the manufacturer/seller. They have not been successful sad

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Reply #67 posted 04/28/19 7:45am

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Mumio said:

Whoever actually made those pills can be viewed by others as a "murderer" and be charged if caught. Involuntary manslaughter may be the charge, but I am not a lawyer so can't say for sure, but I don't know for sure how she intends it to be used. Here's a breakdown of homicide https://criminal.findlaw....tion.html

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Yes, I think you are right. They could be charged if found.

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Reply #68 posted 05/03/19 1:29pm

jfenster

if she's holding out for a book..then its bull

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Reply #69 posted 05/04/19 12:56pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:


What proof do you have that he "simply forgot which bottle" and everything else you posted above? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts. That is the difference between our approach, I have explored the facts and numbers provided, held off on speculation, and showed exactly why those numbers mean it had to be something other than pills. You want to start of with speculation and make it fact. That approach helps no-one but yourself.

Anyway, you will surely post a knee jerk response, and that is cool, I expect it, but I have said my piece, and folks can make of it what they will. I hold no animosity towards you nor anyone else that may disagree in part or in whole with the post.

What proof do you have that he was murdered? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts.

^^The same thing could be said about you, just saying. Unless you can provide real facts that he was murdered. But you can't.


Where did I say he was mudered? I don't know if he was or wasn't. That is speculation my friend, and I stay away from that.

In my post, I clearly stated the following: "knowing the above, it is then natural to speculate even further on things, but I am just sticking to the math, which is indisuputable. The intent is not to point fingers with this post (because I really wouldn't know who to point them at), or to speculate on what other form of the drug he could have ingested. it is merely to bring to light that the numbers involved make the pill overdose narrative just not possible."

So no, I never mentioned murder in the post, nor implied it. All I said was it couldn't have been pills based on the numbers. If that means murder to you, then that is something you have to work out with yourself. All data in the post is in reference to how pills couldn't have been the delivery method for the drug, and not once in reference to whether he was taken out or not. I even stated specifically I am sticking with the math, as opposed to speculation. The words are very clear and understandable.

You are welcome accuse people of things they never said, that is your perogative, but it begs the question.....why?


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Reply #70 posted 05/04/19 9:46pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

What proof do you have that he was murdered? You personally believe something to be true in the circumstances of his passing, something that makes you comfortable and fits with your personal framework, and in doing so, you are literally pulling anything and everything out of thin air to support that, throwing out scenarios as if they are undisputable facts.

^^The same thing could be said about you, just saying. Unless you can provide real facts that he was murdered. But you can't.


Where did I say he was mudered? I don't know if he was or wasn't. That is speculation my friend, and I stay away from that.

In my post, I clearly stated the following: "knowing the above, it is then natural to speculate even further on things, but I am just sticking to the math, which is indisuputable. The intent is not to point fingers with this post (because I really wouldn't know who to point them at), or to speculate on what other form of the drug he could have ingested. it is merely to bring to light that the numbers involved make the pill overdose narrative just not possible."

So no, I never mentioned murder in the post, nor implied it. All I said was it couldn't have been pills based on the numbers. If that means murder to you, then that is something you have to work out with yourself. All data in the post is in reference to how pills couldn't have been the delivery method for the drug, and not once in reference to whether he was taken out or not. I even stated specifically I am sticking with the math, as opposed to speculation. The words are very clear and understandable.

You are welcome accuse people of things they never said, that is your perogative, but it begs the question.....why?



You are still wrong.


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Reply #71 posted 05/04/19 9:52pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:


Where did I say he was mudered? I don't know if he was or wasn't. That is speculation my friend, and I stay away from that.

In my post, I clearly stated the following: "knowing the above, it is then natural to speculate even further on things, but I am just sticking to the math, which is indisuputable. The intent is not to point fingers with this post (because I really wouldn't know who to point them at), or to speculate on what other form of the drug he could have ingested. it is merely to bring to light that the numbers involved make the pill overdose narrative just not possible."

So no, I never mentioned murder in the post, nor implied it. All I said was it couldn't have been pills based on the numbers. If that means murder to you, then that is something you have to work out with yourself. All data in the post is in reference to how pills couldn't have been the delivery method for the drug, and not once in reference to whether he was taken out or not. I even stated specifically I am sticking with the math, as opposed to speculation. The words are very clear and understandable.

You are welcome accuse people of things they never said, that is your perogative, but it begs the question.....why?



You are still wrong.


pimp2

Yep they are very wrong.

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Reply #72 posted 05/05/19 12:55pm

Un2TheJoyFanta
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:


Where did I say he was mudered? I don't know if he was or wasn't. That is speculation my friend, and I stay away from that.

In my post, I clearly stated the following: "knowing the above, it is then natural to speculate even further on things, but I am just sticking to the math, which is indisuputable. The intent is not to point fingers with this post (because I really wouldn't know who to point them at), or to speculate on what other form of the drug he could have ingested. it is merely to bring to light that the numbers involved make the pill overdose narrative just not possible."

So no, I never mentioned murder in the post, nor implied it. All I said was it couldn't have been pills based on the numbers. If that means murder to you, then that is something you have to work out with yourself. All data in the post is in reference to how pills couldn't have been the delivery method for the drug, and not once in reference to whether he was taken out or not. I even stated specifically I am sticking with the math, as opposed to speculation. The words are very clear and understandable.

You are welcome accuse people of things they never said, that is your perogative, but it begs the question.....why?



You are still wrong.


pimp2


Some good points there, especially the evidence you presented where..........oh wait, thats right, you came to this ballgame without a ball.

So, what is your evidence that shows I am incorrect? I am happy to entertain it with an unbiased eye, and always willing to consider every side of the discussion. Can you say the same?

The same question goes to you as well PennyPurple. If you all care enough to tell someone they are wrong, you should all prepared to show why that is.

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Reply #73 posted 05/05/19 1:39pm

PennyPurple

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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


You are still wrong.


pimp2


Some good points there, especially the evidence you presented where..........oh wait, thats right, you came to this ballgame without a ball.

So, what is your evidence that shows I am incorrect? I am happy to entertain it with an unbiased eye, and always willing to consider every side of the discussion. Can you say the same?

The same question goes to you as well PennyPurple. If you all care enough to tell someone they are wrong, you should all prepared to show why that is.

It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.

We had 13 threads on all this.

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Reply #74 posted 05/05/19 9:50pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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PennyPurple said:

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:


Some good points there, especially the evidence you presented where..........oh wait, thats right, you came to this ballgame without a ball.

So, what is your evidence that shows I am incorrect? I am happy to entertain it with an unbiased eye, and always willing to consider every side of the discussion. Can you say the same?

The same question goes to you as well PennyPurple. If you all care enough to tell someone they are wrong, you should all prepared to show why that is.

It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.

We had 13 threads on all this.



Penny is right, and you are still wrong.


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Reply #75 posted 05/06/19 6:26am

Un2TheJoyFanta
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PennyPurple said:

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:


Some good points there, especially the evidence you presented where..........oh wait, thats right, you came to this ballgame without a ball.

So, what is your evidence that shows I am incorrect? I am happy to entertain it with an unbiased eye, and always willing to consider every side of the discussion. Can you say the same?

The same question goes to you as well PennyPurple. If you all care enough to tell someone they are wrong, you should all prepared to show why that is.

It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.

We had 13 threads on all this.


More lies, injection nor inhalation were ever mentioned as a delivery method in the post. As a matter of fact, the ONLY thing mentioned was ingestion. So good, it looks like we can agree on something. But since you didn't read the post, here is what was written on that.

The drug was ingested - again, we know this because of the GIANT amount in his stomach, the liver and blood numbers show he was gone long before his body could even process a percentage of what hit his stomach. We know it was not injected because his blood levels would have shown the giant dose and not his stomach if that was the case. The autopsy report also confirmed it was not injection.

if you actually read the original and followup post, you would see why the ingestion of pills could not be responsible. Just because pills were in the proximity of Prince, doesn't mean it was pills that delivered the dose. The drug being 'present' in pill form at paisley means nothing. As matter of fact, there is no article that exists stating that actual pills were found in his stomach, and if you have one, post it, I would love to see it.



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Reply #76 posted 05/06/19 6:40am

violetcrush

Un2TheJoyFantastic said:



PennyPurple said:




Un2TheJoyFantastic said:




Some good points there, especially the evidence you presented where.....oh wait, thats right, you came to this ballgame without a ball.

So, what is your evidence that shows I am incorrect? I am happy to entertain it with an unbiased eye, and always willing to consider every side of the discussion. Can you say the same?

The same question goes to you as well PennyPurple. If you all care enough to tell someone they are wrong, you should all prepared to show why that is.



It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.


We had 13 threads on all this.




More lies, injection nor inhalation were ever mentioned as a delivery method in the post. As a matter of fact, the ONLY thing mentioned was ingestion. So good, it looks like we can agree on something. But since you didn't read the post, here is what was written on that.

The drug was ingested - again, we know this because of the GIANT amount in his stomach, the liver and blood numbers show he was gone long before his body could even process a percentage of what hit his stomach. We know it was not injected because his blood levels would have shown the giant dose and not his stomach if that was the case. The autopsy report also confirmed it was not injection.

if you actually read the original and followup post, you would see why the ingestion of pills could not be responsible. Just because pills were in the proximity of Prince, doesn't mean it was pills that delivered the dose. The drug being 'present' in pill form at paisley means nothing. As matter of fact, there is no article that exists stating that actual pills were found in his stomach, and if you have one, post it, I would love to see it.





Are you implying that someone may have mixed a large dose of Fentanyl powder into something he ate or drank? Based on what you are stating - which is that he could not have ingested the quantity of pills to match the level found in his stomach. That scenario (someone outing the drug in his food or drink) would seem to be the only alternative to him ingesting the pills .
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Reply #77 posted 05/06/19 7:06am

funksterr

Transcendental Meditation. Deception. Valium. Rick. Demons. "Strung Out". Masochism. Coincidence. Possession. Eroticism. Heron. Soul Mates. Revelations. AOL. H Rap. Muse. Courage. Heartbreak. James. Fear. The Everlasting Now. Vinyl. Ego. Scooby Doo, lol. Cosmo. Motown. Epilepsy. Humility. Shame. Brown. Armageddon. Exorcism. Colonialism. Hollyweird. Deen. Psychic. Hypocrisy. Vertigo. Abuse. Colorism. Fate. Destiny. Fame. Jesus.



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Reply #78 posted 05/06/19 7:30am

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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

PennyPurple said:

It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.

We had 13 threads on all this.


More lies, injection nor inhalation were ever mentioned as a delivery method in the post. As a matter of fact, the ONLY thing mentioned was ingestion. So good, it looks like we can agree on something. But since you didn't read the post, here is what was written on that.

The drug was ingested - again, we know this because of the GIANT amount in his stomach, the liver and blood numbers show he was gone long before his body could even process a percentage of what hit his stomach. We know it was not injected because his blood levels would have shown the giant dose and not his stomach if that was the case. The autopsy report also confirmed it was not injection.

if you actually read the original and followup post, you would see why the ingestion of pills could not be responsible. Just because pills were in the proximity of Prince, doesn't mean it was pills that delivered the dose. The drug being 'present' in pill form at paisley means nothing. As matter of fact, there is no article that exists stating that actual pills were found in his stomach, and if you have one, post it, I would love to see it.



Where were you when we had 13 threads about all of this? The bottles laying around were tested, energy drinks, water, etc.

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Reply #79 posted 05/06/19 8:10am

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:



Un2TheJoyFantastic said:




PennyPurple said:



It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.


We had 13 threads on all this.




More lies, injection nor inhalation were ever mentioned as a delivery method in the post. As a matter of fact, the ONLY thing mentioned was ingestion. So good, it looks like we can agree on something. But since you didn't read the post, here is what was written on that.

The drug was ingested - again, we know this because of the GIANT amount in his stomach, the liver and blood numbers show he was gone long before his body could even process a percentage of what hit his stomach. We know it was not injected because his blood levels would have shown the giant dose and not his stomach if that was the case. The autopsy report also confirmed it was not injection.

if you actually read the original and followup post, you would see why the ingestion of pills could not be responsible. Just because pills were in the proximity of Prince, doesn't mean it was pills that delivered the dose. The drug being 'present' in pill form at paisley means nothing. As matter of fact, there is no article that exists stating that actual pills were found in his stomach, and if you have one, post it, I would love to see it.






Where were you when we had 13 threads about all of this? The bottles laying around were tested, energy drinks, water, etc.


It is still possible for evidence (bottles, dishwater, etc) to have been removed or destroyed prior to the police arriving and/or the start of the investigation. I still can’t believe they did not immediately confiscate his personal computer - lots of time for files to be deleted.
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Not saying that is what occurred, but it’s not an impossible theory. I do think he took the pills, but we may never have concrete proof. Too bad the security cameras were not being used.
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Bottom line is that he would have passed a week earlier had there not been an emergency intervention and 2 Narcan shots. His frail body could no longer handle the strength of those drugs.
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Reply #80 posted 05/06/19 2:04pm

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funksterr said:

Transcendental Meditation. Deception. Valium. Rick. Demons. "Strung Out". Masochism. Coincidence. Possession. Eroticism. Heron. Soul Mates. Revelations. AOL. H Rap. Muse. Courage. Heartbreak. James. Fear. The Everlasting Now. Vinyl. Ego. Scooby Doo, lol. Cosmo. Motown. Epilepsy. Humility. Shame. Brown. Armageddon. Exorcism. Colonialism. Hollyweird. Deen. Psychic. Hypocrisy. Vertigo. Abuse. Colorism. Fate. Destiny. Fame. Jesus.





I don’t understand this I am trying to very much !
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Reply #81 posted 05/06/19 2:33pm

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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

funksterr said:

Transcendental Meditation. Deception. Valium. Rick. Demons. "Strung Out". Masochism. Coincidence. Possession. Eroticism. Heron. Soul Mates. Revelations. AOL. H Rap. Muse. Courage. Heartbreak. James. Fear. The Everlasting Now. Vinyl. Ego. Scooby Doo, lol. Cosmo. Motown. Epilepsy. Humility. Shame. Brown. Armageddon. Exorcism. Colonialism. Hollyweird. Deen. Psychic. Hypocrisy. Vertigo. Abuse. Colorism. Fate. Destiny. Fame. Jesus.





I don’t understand this I am trying to very much !


I do.
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Reply #82 posted 05/06/19 2:41pm

violetcrush

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

funksterr said:

Transcendental Meditation. Deception. Valium. Rick. Demons. "Strung Out". Masochism. Coincidence. Possession. Eroticism. Heron. Soul Mates. Revelations. AOL. H Rap. Muse. Courage. Heartbreak. James. Fear. The Everlasting Now. Vinyl. Ego. Scooby Doo, lol. Cosmo. Motown. Epilepsy. Humility. Shame. Brown. Armageddon. Exorcism. Colonialism. Hollyweird. Deen. Psychic. Hypocrisy. Vertigo. Abuse. Colorism. Fate. Destiny. Fame. Jesus.





I don’t understand this I am trying to very much !

Many of the “pieces” of the puzzle that made Prince who he was, and/or were part of his existence here smile
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Reply #83 posted 05/06/19 5:03pm

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urghhh

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #84 posted 05/06/19 7:05pm

violetcrush

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urghhh


“Urghhh” to what? My interpretation of the post above, or the post itself??
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Reply #85 posted 05/06/19 7:59pm

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violetcrush said:

purplethunder3121 said:

urghhh

“Urghhh” to what? My interpretation of the post above, or the post itself??

Apples...

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Reply #86 posted 05/07/19 4:55am

violetcrush

purplethunder3121 said:



violetcrush said:


purplethunder3121 said:

urghhh



“Urghhh” to what? My interpretation of the post above, or the post itself??

Apples...



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Ahhh... lol razz
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Reply #87 posted 05/07/19 3:50pm

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so maybe Apples is hinting she knows who sold him that poison?

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Reply #88 posted 05/07/19 7:56pm

violetcrush

XxAxX said:

so maybe Apples is hinting she knows who sold him that poison?


I wouldn’t bet the Apple tree farm on that biggrin
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Reply #89 posted 05/07/19 9:18pm

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Un2TheJoyFantastic said:

PennyPurple said:

It's all in the 1000's of pages in the investigative files. It was not inhaled, or injected. The pills were tested and so was the stomach contents.

We had 13 threads on all this.


More lies, injection nor inhalation were ever mentioned as a delivery method in the post. As a matter of fact, the ONLY thing mentioned was ingestion. So good, it looks like we can agree on something. But since you didn't read the post, here is what was written on that.

The drug was ingested - again, we know this because of the GIANT amount in his stomach, the liver and blood numbers show he was gone long before his body could even process a percentage of what hit his stomach. We know it was not injected because his blood levels would have shown the giant dose and not his stomach if that was the case. The autopsy report also confirmed it was not injection.

if you actually read the original and followup post, you would see why the ingestion of pills could not be responsible. Just because pills were in the proximity of Prince, doesn't mean it was pills that delivered the dose. The drug being 'present' in pill form at paisley means nothing. As matter of fact, there is no article that exists stating that actual pills were found in his stomach, and if you have one, post it, I would love to see it.





That's right...the chef's kilt P.

lol lol

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