violetcrush said:

And, here's food for thought - if it was such a "throw-away" song, and didn't mean much to Prince, why did it stay in his set list for the rest of his life??

OldFriends4Sale said:

You asked why he didn’t introduce Devin to Wendy et al. My clumsy response was trying to answer that question. In what world would it have been possible to introduce her to his band? He’d be risking a whole bunch of his babes if he did that. I’m also trying to say Devin got just as much respect from Prince that the so called love of his life Susannah did, which was none.

So I used the wrong word way back when when I spoke of his treatment of
Devin, I should have said he treated her with deference, he tried to please her and looked after her in ways he didn’t have to. He was kind to her, he didn’t meet her just for sex.

I never said you said Susannah was the love of his life but if you read this thread you will find that being said.
[Edited 1/6/19 21:04pm]

violetcrush said:

Because it was a huge hit.

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Oh, I can assure you that I am an "out of box" thinker, but come on!! The majority of that song speaks to a romantic love, not a relationship between a guy and his housekeeper

And, here's food for thought - if it was such a "throw-away" song, and didn't mean much to Prince, why did it stay in his set list for the rest of his life??

True. I'm watching a show from 2014 right now and he just performed a very moving rendition.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes she did. She clarified not just in a sexual way but he helped to shape her into the person she became. I thought that was very touching. You know, I always thought the fDeluxe song Lover might have been connected to him. That and Beautiful You

violetcrush said:

OldFriends, this thread is wearing me out!!! Good to see you in here! And Pink too. Love her!!
[Edited 1/6/19 21:05pm]

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Yes she did. She clarified not just in a sexual way but he helped to shape her into the person she became. I thought that was very touching. You know, I always thought the fDeluxe song Lover might have been connected to him. That and Beautiful You

OldFriends, this thread is wearing me out!!! Good to see you in here!

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

violetcrush said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Could it be it is because you cannot think outside the box?

Oh, I can assure you that I am an "out of box" thinker, but come on!! The majority of that song speaks to a romantic love, not a relationship between a guy and his housekeeper

Your numerous comments on this thread states otherwise.

PennyPurple said:

Oh no PennyP, a huge % also goes to you and Muchtoofast

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said: OldFriends, this thread is wearing me out!!! Good to see you in here!

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

Penny! We said this at the same time!

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Yes she did. She clarified not just in a sexual way but he helped to shape her into the person she became. I thought that was very touching. You know, I always thought the fDeluxe song Lover might have been connected to him. That and Beautiful You

OldFriends, this thread is wearing me out!!! Good to see you in here! And Pink too. Love her!! [Edited 1/6/19 21:05pm]

Love you too violet! Yep I'm trying to keep up myself

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

Penny! We said this at the same time!

Great minds think alike!

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Didn't she say he was the 'Lover Of Her Life'?

Yes she did. She clarified not just in a sexual way but he helped to shape her into the person she became. I thought that was very touching. You know, I always thought the fDeluxe song Lover might have been connected to him. That and Beautiful You

I thought that was touching as well and I agree.

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said: OldFriends, this thread is wearing me out!!! Good to see you in here!

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

Chuckle, chuckle

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Penny! We said this at the same time!

Great minds think alike!

Amen!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Why the use of imagination and creativity and simple rhymes never occur to some people
[Edited 1/6/19 21:21pm]

peggyon said:

PennyPurple said:

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

Chuckle, chuckle

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Oh, I can assure you that I am an "out of box" thinker, but come on!! The majority of that song speaks to a romantic love, not a relationship between a guy and his housekeeper

Your numerous comments on this thread states otherwise.

Can I say something? Susannah Melvoin is a back-up singer who may have co-written a few songs. She had a relationship with a prominent musician in her late teens, early twenties.

She is now in her late 50's. And??? I would be interested if she had made something of herself, but last I heard she was completing college in her 50's and in need of $. Sorry, but I think she is riding coatails.

I am now expecting these statements to get alot of hate from some. I am ducking...Good night.

muchtoofast said:

Okay, I came up with the "platonic/housekeeper version of NC2U!!
Here goes one verse:
*
It's been so messy without you here
Like a stain without a mop
I went to the Doctor and guess what he told me, guess what he told me
He said boy you better learn how to do the dishes no matter what you do
But he!s a fool cause nothing compares to U!!
*

peggyon said:

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, she was not just a backup singer for Prince. She was co-lead of The Family, and would have continued that if Paul Peterson had stayed. I think you must be unaware of the things she did after leaving the Prince camp. She contributed to and was part of W&L albums, she wrote with and sang in Seal's band (she's in his video for Newborn Friend. She wrote and sang for Doyle Branhall's band Smokestack. She was a backing singer on Roger Water's In The Flesh tour. She wrote Candy Perfume Girl on Madonba's Ray Of Light album. She co-wrote and is co-lead singer of fDeluxe and they have 2 records released.
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Yeah, it sucks when your husband leaves you and you have two kids to support. A bit hard to travel around with a band when you have to take care of two kids. From what I understand she was having financial difficulties because her ex was refusing to pay her support. I can relate to her situation. It's not easy. I think it's great that she's trying to get a degree.
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At any rate, Prince must have considered her important to his music, as she was the second person he thanked for contributing to his success at the 1995 AMAs. Vanity, Jill, and Devin D were not on that list.

violetcrush said:

muchtoofast said:

Why the use of imagination and creativity and simple rhymes never occur to some people [Edited 1/6/19 21:21pm]

Okay, I came up with the "platonic/housekeeper version of NC2U!! Here goes one verse: * It's been so messy without you here Like a stain without a mop I went to the Doctor and guess what he told me, guess what he told me He said boy you better learn how to do the dishes no matter what you do But he!s a fool cause nothing compares to U!! *

Yeah,not quite the same ring to it.

violetcrush said:

No, maybe Prince used HIS imagination when he sang of love and the flesh not YOU.
Your song was limp.

violetcrush said:

He thanked more than thirty people that were in any band of his or were a musical inspiration and of course Muhammad Ali. He lumped Wendy and Susannah Melvoin together. Nothing more than a shoutout. Devin was never in his band and never worked for him for free so there would be no reason to thank her.

Quit bringing up Devin and we can move on? Thanks.

muchtoofast said:

He named them exactly the way he named the others - by first and last name. So sorry, there was no "lumping" them together. Nice try at minimizing it though! I said they were the FIRST people he thanked - not the only. And he put them in front of all the other band members. So yeah, I'd say that is pretty significant.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Right??!! But is pretty funny though

muchtoofast said:

violetcrush said:

Okay, I came up with the "platonic/housekeeper version of NC2U!! Here goes one verse: * It's been so messy without you here Like a stain without a mop I went to the Doctor and guess what he told me, guess what he told me He said boy you better learn how to do the dishes no matter what you do But he!s a fool cause nothing compares to U!! *

No, maybe Prince used HIS imagination when he sang of love and the flesh not YOU. Your song was limp.

Awwww, lighten up muchtoofast!! Come on, ya gotta admit it's funny

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said: And, here's food for thought - if it was such a "throw-away" song, and didn't mean much to Prince, why did it stay in his set list for the rest of his life??

True. I'm watching a show from 2014 right now and he just performed a very moving rendition.

Yes, it was always a moving performance when he played it.

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I just remembered something else too. During the Nude tour 1990, didn't he lay himself down on a huge red heart that gradually went backward until he was laying flat after playing that song? I'll have to go back and look at footage again, but I seem to recall that.

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Probably because of 335 posts 299 are yours...

Oh no PennyP, a huge % also goes to you and Muchtoofast

And PennyP, you get the award for working in the estate and court documents for the 1,254th time!!

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Yippiddydoodah

peggyon said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Your numerous comments on this thread states otherwise.

Can I say something? Susannah Melvoin is a back-up singer who may have co-written a few songs. She had a relationship with a prominent musician in her late teens, early twenties.

She is now in her late 50's. And??? I would be interested if she had made something of herself, but last I heard she was completing college in her 50's and in need of $. Sorry, but I think she is riding coatails.

I am now expecting these statements to get alot of hate from some. I am ducking...Good night.

What does any of this have to do with the interview with Toure exactly? What is the purpose outside of me seeing the same thing I've been seeing with the 'harem' attack mentality since Prince passed.

muchtoofast said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

So are you now being derogatory toward Prince now?

.

So everything you just said here backed my premise. If he was straight up to Sheila Jill Susannah Devin etc and said 'Hey I like you, I'm not looking to get married or hardcore dating, but I would like to spend time with you, we can see other people..." lots of men do this. Then it would have been a respectful endevour. Facts before Feelings. Then the person would be given honesty and empowered with info to make a choice, after that any hurt would be on them.

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And didn't Toure ask if Prince was the love of HER life? not the other way around?

You asked why he didn’t introduce Devin to Wendy et al. My clumsy response was trying to answer that question. In what world would it have been possible to introduce her to his band? He’d be risking a whole bunch of his babes if he did that. I’m also trying to say Devin got just as much respect from Prince that the so called love of his life Susannah did, which was none. So I used the wrong word way back when when I spoke of his treatment of Devin, I should have said he treated her with deference, he tried to please her and looked after her in ways he didn’t have to. He was kind to her, he didn’t meet her just for sex. I never said you said Susannah was the love of his life but if you read this thread you will find that being said. [Edited 1/6/19 21:04pm]

Again, you said he was 'respectful' and a whole slew of other terms toward Devin. How was he being 'respectful' toward Devin, if keeping her a secret or private like that? And in Prince's zone according to what he came up with family wise. He probably thought he was being respectful. But if you were put in that situation, how would you feel?
In the 70s 80s 90s moreso you hear a lot of songs about women settling and even being adversarial to the women, not the men.

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No Devin was a secret Susannah wasn't. Susannah lived in his house, helped decorate, entertained etc knew his family, he knew hers etc Same thing happened with Vanity.

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But again, this MF stuff, you female fans don't even see how you look in how you go after the women Prince DATED/LOVED/HAD SEX WITH. Male fans sit back, shake our heads and ...