purplerabbithole said:

I believe they helped flesh out and tweek its sound and added the instrumental music at the beginning and ending. Jerome might have seen him come up with the melody and lyrics. But sometimes, it feels like Rev members believe that P's melodies and lyrics made no sense and were musically so simple they could have been written by a chimp before the band got together with him and sometimes without him to make the songs great (Let's Go Crazy, Purple Rain, Kiss.)

ChocolateBox3121 said:

According to Jerome(whom was there when Prince first wrote S.I.S.I.A) Wendy & Lisa was nowhere near.

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Don't get me started on "The Revolution".

Penny. I get where your emotions are coming from.. I feel you. But I don't need them to go into why they weren't there for Prince before he died. Odds are that he wouldn't have let them into his life if they belabored the point. I think most of them had their hands tied. I just wish they would think about how insensitive it is to do interviews discussing his flaws, their own careers and talents with only 1/4 of the interview being somewhat complimentary of P himself.. a day after their old friend's pain and suffering is being replayed for all to see in the media and pictures of his body strewn on the floor of his house are on the nightly news. the juxtaposition of that quietus interview and all that was going down that week, just pissed me off. In Andre's defense, maybe he did that interview before that stuff came out. I hope so. but it sounds like Toure (a man who met prince once) got him to restate some of the same stuff again around another anniversay (his birth.) The week of his death and his birthday should be much more reverent in my opinion. They can air out their grievances on the other 340 days of the year.

PennyPurple said:

purplerabbithole said:

They did say some of this when PRince was alive...Andre did mention some stolen basslines and Do me baby being stolen when P was alive. But he is dead now and therefore people should also remember what made his "brother" special and unique..and it shouldn't be some kind of affirmation of P's autistic ability to copy others.

I know, they make me sick.

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NO, I imagine he didn't. I was being hyperbolic to make a point. Pardon my over-emotional nature.

rogifan said:

OK I didn’t listen to this interview. Did Andre really say Prince was a second rate musician who stole from everyone around him?

purplerabbithole said:

They did say some of this when PRince was alive...Andre did mention some stolen basslines and Do me baby being stolen when P was alive. But he is dead now and therefore people should also remember what made his "brother" special and unique..and it shouldn't be some kind of affirmation of P's autistic ability to copy others.

PennyPurple said:

Look Andre is riding the purple $$ train, do you think he's performing with NPG for free?

I wouldn't mind a TRUTHFUL interview, but all these ASSociates are trying to change the narrative, and Prince isn't here to knock them back in their place. You notice they didn't say this crap when he was alive.

Stop giving these people a purple pass & start asking REAL questions from them.

Andre has ALWAYS said the same things about Prince even before he transitioned. He is not riding any "purple money train" . He started his comeback journey 2 years before Prince transitioned and I supported him along the way through the majority of his performances. He has went through the WHOLE story about how him and Prince met(countless times) and how Prince even visited his mother while she was on her death bed. Does that sound like someone that's not making his "brother special or unique". NO IT DOESN'T!

i know. I am being hyperbolic. I am sorry about that. But I still think he should think about how his more recent interviews are coming off. I meant "unique" in terms of artistry...not personal traits.

You are right. His comeback was starting before P's death...but I still hate that these grievances are being aired at such insensitive times and that P's individual creative ideas are being somewhat dismissed now. Like I said, 340 days a year are fine. For two weeks (one around his death and one around his birth), I think folks should remember to keep it positive, have reverence and mourn what was good about the man. A funeral eulogy shouldnt be 4 parts grievances and one part semi-compliment.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

purplerabbithole said:

They did say some of this when PRince was alive...Andre did mention some stolen basslines and Do me baby being stolen when P was alive. But he is dead now and therefore people should also remember what made his "brother" special and unique..and it shouldn't be some kind of affirmation of P's autistic ability to copy others.

Andre has ALWAYS said the same things about Prince even before he transitioned. He is not riding any "purple money train" . He started his comeback journey 2 years before Prince transitioned and I supported him along the way through the majority of his performances. He has went through the WHOLE story about how him and Prince met(countless times) and how Prince even visited his mother while she was on her death bed. Does that sound like someone that's not making his "brother special or unique". NO IT DOESN'T!

No nothing of the sort. The interview focused only on Prince's pre-fame teen years. Andre just said that at that time, Prince wasn't PRINCE; we was one talented member of a band with a lot of talent.

rogifan said:

OK I didn’t listen to this interview. Did Andre really say Prince was a second rate musician who stole from everyone around him?

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Is that really all he said? If that is the case, then that is much better than that Quietus interview...phew. I guess I am still stinging from that interview and its timing.

disch said:

No nothing of the sort. The interview focused only on Prince's pre-fame teen years. Andre just said that at that time, Prince wasn't PRINCE; we was one talented member of a band with a lot of talent.

rogifan said:

OK I didn’t listen to this interview. Did Andre really say Prince was a second rate musician who stole from everyone around him?

[Edited 6/6/18 19:29pm]

That's all I got out of it. He kind of emphasized that during those early years, they were all (well, Andre and Prince anyway, since that's who he was talking about) more or less equal members of the band; it wasn't that Prince was a big standout and they were all backing him.

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He didn't really talk about much beyond their teenage years together. Toure asked him if Prince changed after he made his first albums, and Andre said yes, but didn't give specific examples other than saying that that kind of thing will change anyone who is malleable.

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purplerabbithole said:

Is that really all he said? If that is the case, then that is much better than that Quietus interview...phew. I guess I am still stinging from that interview and its timing.

disch said:

No nothing of the sort. The interview focused only on Prince's pre-fame teen years. Andre just said that at that time, Prince wasn't PRINCE; we was one talented member of a band with a lot of talent.

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So, is he saying that "For You" and "PRince" were equal parts Andre and Prince? Or what they were doing prior to that?

disch said:

That's all I got out of it. He kind of emphasized that during those early years, they were all (well, Andre and Prince anyway, since that's who he was talking about) more or less equal members of the band; it wasn't that Prince was a big standout and they were all backing him.

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He didn't really talk about much beyond their teenage years together. Toure asked him if Prince changed after he made his first albums, and Andre said yes, but didn't give specific examples other than saying that that kind of thing will change anyone who is malleable.

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purplerabbithole said:

Is that really all he said? If that is the case, then that is much better than that Quietus interview...phew. I guess I am still stinging from that interview and its timing.

No he didn't really talk about the development of those albums at all, other than to mention he told Prince he'd stay with him for those first 3 albums he was contracted for (and he did). Andre was talking about the Grand Central era.

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The podcast is about an hour so if you have time you can give it a listen.

purplerabbithole said:

So, is he saying that "For You" and "PRince" were equal parts Andre and Prince? Or what they were doing prior to that?

disch said:

That's all I got out of it. He kind of emphasized that during those early years, they were all (well, Andre and Prince anyway, since that's who he was talking about) more or less equal members of the band; it wasn't that Prince was a big standout and they were all backing him.

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He didn't really talk about much beyond their teenage years together. Toure asked him if Prince changed after he made his first albums, and Andre said yes, but didn't give specific examples other than saying that that kind of thing will change anyone who is malleable.

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I feel that Andre was more or less equal to Prince in their younger years but their wants and needs changed...Andre has a family (6 kids) and was close to his siblings.I think he had the better (more rounded) more fulfilling life than Prince ...and he looks fabulous

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Thanks. Then Sorry, Andre.

disch said:

No he didn't really talk about the development of those albums at all, other than to mention he told Prince he'd stay with him for those first 3 albums he was contracted for (and he did). Andre was talking about the Grand Central era.

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The podcast is about an hour so if you have time you can give it a listen.

purplerabbithole said:

So, is he saying that "For You" and "PRince" were equal parts Andre and Prince? Or what they were doing prior to that?

[Edited 6/6/18 20:16pm]

purplerabbithole said:

Thanks. Then Sorry, Andre.

disch said:

No he didn't really talk about the development of those albums at all, other than to mention he told Prince he'd stay with him for those first 3 albums he was contracted for (and he did). Andre was talking about the Grand Central era.

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The podcast is about an hour so if you have time you can give it a listen.

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I feel U owe me an apology also.

I don't recall ever saying anything insulting to you. I just disagreed. re-read the posts. But okay, I apologize if I came off rude.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

purplerabbithole said:

Thanks. Then Sorry, Andre.

I feel U owe me an apology also.

purplerabbithole said:

I don't recall ever saying anything insulting to you. I just disagreed. re-read the posts. But okay, I apologize if I came off rude.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I feel U owe me an apology also.

Apology excepted..

purplerabbithole said:

PennyPurple said:

Look Andre is riding the purple $$ train, do you think he's performing with NPG for free?

I wouldn't mind a TRUTHFUL interview, but all these ASSociates are trying to change the narrative, and Prince isn't here to knock them back in their place. You notice they didn't say this crap when he was alive.

Stop giving these people a purple pass & start asking REAL questions from them.

They have a right to earn a living. He was part of Prince history whether anyone acknowledges that or not. Fuckin' right he's making a buck. He should be! No one works for free.

80tomato said:

Andre is talented and hawt.

purplefam99 said:

80tomato said:

I feel that Andre was more or less equal to Prince in their younger years but their wants and needs changed...Andre has a family (6 kids) and was close to his siblings.I think he had the better (more rounded) more fulfilling life than Prince ...and he looks fabulous

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Agree. If fame was the goal then Prince is the winner If a well rounded life is the goal the Andre is the winner. I find most value in the 2nd option.

I think Prince really needed to be famous and to play that game...according to some of the early stories from Bobby Z and Andre , Prince was rehearsing for the time he would be famous...Andre just seemed more chill and wanted to do his own thing and not get sucked up by the Prince-machine...RIP Prince and thinking of you on your b-day

80tomato said:

I feel that Andre was more or less equal to Prince in their younger years but their wants and needs changed...Andre has a family (6 kids) and was close to his siblings.I think he had the better (more rounded) more fulfilling life than Prince ...and he looks fabulous

[Edited 6/6/18 20:27pm]

THIS. My heart aches thinking about it but I think that's the truth. At times like this I think about what would've been if Amiir had survived? What kind of live would Prince have lived with his son?

But these what ifs don't bring him back either tho

Oh Andre.... you are sooooo fucking average!

The only song this fool is known for is Dance Electric....errr who wrote that again?

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

The only song this fool is known for is Dance Electric....errr who wrote that again?

And TWO PLATINUM GRAMMY WINNING albums he wrote and produced by Jody Watley to name a few.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

The only song this fool is known for is Dance Electric....errr who wrote that again?

And TWO PLATINUM GRAMMY WINNING albums he wrote and produced by Jody Watley to name a few.

Yeah, he's always trying to make it off somebody else's name, he just can't get there himself..

PennyPurple said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

And TWO PLATINUM GRAMMY WINNING albums he wrote and produced by Jody Watley to name a few.

Yeah, he's always trying to make it off somebody else's name, he just can't get there himself..

Andre made the decision HIS DECISION! To become a producer. Because his label Columbia Records at the time kept trying to turn him into Prince. He wanted his own sound and own identity.

So ANDRE is the one that walked away from a solo career. But little did he know he would end up becoming and even more successful producer. Which led him to produce SEVERAL other artist and contribute to some soundtracks. STOP HATING!

rogifan said:

OK I didn’t listen to this interview. Did Andre really say Prince was a second rate musician who stole from everyone around him?

I didn't hear any such thing in the interview that the OP linked.