you're welcome! now: back to talking about the photo of Andy in Paisley Park galaxy room! Don't want to contribute any more than i already have to derailing from your topic of choice!

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Well, I'm not a dude (sounds like your clairvoyance may have failed you there ) but carry on. And I'm happy to talk about digital marketing over org note, if you ever want some feedback.

Thanks for your offer of assistance, but I'm good. And, BTW, here in the 21 Century, "dude" is a gender-neutral term.

disch said:

Well, I'm not a dude (sounds like your clairvoyance may have failed you there ) but carry on. And I'm happy to talk about digital marketing over org note, if you ever want some feedback.

FlyOnTheWall said:

It sounds like you try to dabble in clairvoyance, as well...but, dude, you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am no more a "marketer" than anyone else who starts threads on Prince.org. I just happen to write well and I have a bit of tech knowledge. And, for your information, I say that there is great interest in Prince and Andy because of the media coverage afforded their collaboration, then and now. For instance, just two days ago, Saturday Magazine, in the UK, ran a cover of Prince and Andy based, it seems, solely on old clips and quotes. But, since you want to talk views on Prince.org, many of the erased threads had 10,000 or more view....but, who's counting??

Just face it: Andy is a star!!!!! I'm sorry, not sorry, that (and my interest in Prindy (Prince & Andy) seems to pain you so much.

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Looking at the comments for the last photo that Andy posted of she and Prince on IG,plenty of people liked them together and believe they were in love,including Justine Walpole apparently.I had never heard of AA before Prince introduced us to her and once I gave her a chance, I grew to like her and her music. I also appreciated the joy and happiness that she seemed to bring to Prince's life and I enjoy looking back to that time.

Well the portait in the galaxy room that Justine Walpole apparently shot (I think?) is a very nice one. What the photographer thought athe nature of the subject's relationship with Prince, I don't know, but she did a good job with composition and light in the photo, I think.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Well, I'm not a dude (sounds like your clairvoyance may have failed you there ) but carry on. And I'm happy to talk about digital marketing over org note, if you ever want some feedback.

Looking at the comments for the last photo that Andy posted of she and Prince on IG,plenty of people liked them together and believe they were in love,including Justine Walpole apparently.I had never heard of AA before Prince introduced us to her and once I gave her a chance, I grew to like her and her music. I also appreciated the joy and happiness that she seemed to bring to Prince's life and I enjoy looking back to that time.

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disch said:

Isn't this thread about the photo of Andy in the galaxy room (I saw that photo myself on the PP tour!)? Are there other threads to discuss the nature of the love between Prince and Andy and her music (I didn't mention anything about that here... so i'm not clear why you're addressing that observation to me?)? I don't want to contribute more than i have to derailing this thread from a discussion of that photo at PP...

pinkcashmere23 said:

Looking at the comments for the last photo that Andy posted of she and Prince on IG,plenty of people liked them together and believe they were in love,including Justine Walpole apparently.I had never heard of AA before Prince introduced us to her and once I gave her a chance, I grew to like her and her music. I also appreciated the joy and happiness that she seemed to bring to Prince's life and I enjoy looking back to that time.

I just think it's funny that some think that interest in Andy or them as a couple couldn't be genuine and that there is an agenda.Maybe some of us just liked them together and want to discuss that.

disch said:

Well the portait in the galaxy room that Justine Walpole apparently shot (I think?) is a very nice one. What the photographer thought athe nature of the subject's relationship with Prince, I don't know, but she did a good job with composition and light in the photo, I think.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Looking at the comments for the last photo that Andy posted of she and Prince on IG,plenty of people liked them together and believe they were in love,including Justine Walpole apparently.I had never heard of AA before Prince introduced us to her and once I gave her a chance, I grew to like her and her music. I also appreciated the joy and happiness that she seemed to bring to Prince's life and I enjoy looking back to that time.

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If I'm not mistaken, it was Prince who took the photo of Andy that is on display in the Galaxy Room. I think pink was referring to the iconic black-and-white formal Justine Walpole portrait of Prince and Andy that she (Andy) posted along with her moving tribute after his passing.

disch said:

you're welcome! now: back to talking about the photo of Andy in Paisley Park galaxy room! Don't want to contribute any more than i already have to derailing from your topic of choice!

FlyOnTheWall said:

Thanks for your offer of assistance, but I'm good. And, BTW, here in the 21 Century, "dude" is a gender-neutral term.

well, you created this thread to discuss the galaxy room portrait, so I'm not going to derail with a disussion of andy's "moving tribute" or another different "iconic" photo (that's a VERY strong word for a photograph. I wouldn't even use that word to describe more than a couple photos of prince himsef; perhaps the early richard avedon shots for rolling stone. But I'm digressing from the thread's topic).

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When you search on "justine walpole andy allo" in google image search, that PP image is listed among the the results with a Justine Walpole URL (http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/andy-allo-3/) but that actual page is blank. So it's unclear, but I thought that's why pink brough Walpole's into this thread.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Well the portait in the galaxy room that Justine Walpole apparently shot (I think?) is a very nice one. What the photographer thought athe nature of the subject's relationship with Prince, I don't know, but she did a good job with composition and light in the photo, I think.

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[Edited 5/7/18 13:08pm]

If I'm not mistaken, it was Prince who took the photo of Andy that is on display in the Galaxy Room. I think pink was referring to the iconic black-and-white formal Justine Walpole portrait of Prince and Andy that she (Andy) posted along with her moving tribute after his passing.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Well the portait in the galaxy room that Justine Walpole apparently shot (I think?) is a very nice one. What the photographer thought athe nature of the subject's relationship with Prince, I don't know, but she did a good job with composition and light in the photo, I think.

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[Edited 5/7/18 13:08pm]

If I'm not mistaken, it was Prince who took the photo of Andy that is on display in the Galaxy Room. I think pink was referring to the iconic black-and-white formal Justine Walpole portrait of Prince and Andy that she (Andy) posted along with her moving tribute after his passing.

From what Andy said,the photo in the Galaxy room was taken by Prince.Actually I was referring to the two heart emojis that Justine posted for her comment on the last photo that Andy posted of she and Prince in January,though Justine did comment that she loved the black and white photo after Andy posted it.

disch said:

well, you created this thread to discuss the galaxy room portrait, so I'm not going to derail with a disussion of andy's "moving tribute" or another different "iconic" photo (that's a VERY strong word for a photograph. I wouldn't even use that word to describe more than a couple photos of prince himsef; perhaps the early richard avedon shots for rolling stone. But I'm digressing from the thread's topic).

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When you search on "justine walpole andy allo" in google image search, that PP image is listed among the the results with a Justine Walpole URL (http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/andy-allo-3/) but that actual page is blank. So it's unclear, but I thought that's why pink brough Walpole's into this thread.

FlyOnTheWall said:

If I'm not mistaken, it was Prince who took the photo of Andy that is on display in the Galaxy Room. I think pink was referring to the iconic black-and-white formal Justine Walpole portrait of Prince and Andy that she (Andy) posted along with her moving tribute after his passing.

Thanks, disch.

You can see this galaxy room picture on Justine Walpole's site here:

http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/

(in a desktop browser, it's in the fourth row from the top.)

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Seems to me that indicates she took the photo; I don't think she'd show an image shot by someone else on her own site.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

well, you created this thread to discuss the galaxy room portrait, so I'm not going to derail with a disussion of andy's "moving tribute" or another different "iconic" photo (that's a VERY strong word for a photograph. I wouldn't even use that word to describe more than a couple photos of prince himsef; perhaps the early richard avedon shots for rolling stone. But I'm digressing from the thread's topic).

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When you search on "justine walpole andy allo" in google image search, that PP image is listed among the the results with a Justine Walpole URL (http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/andy-allo-3/) but that actual page is blank. So it's unclear, but I thought that's why pink brough Walpole's into this thread.

Thanks, disch.

disch said:

You can see this galaxy room picture on Justine Walpole's site here:

http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/

(in a desktop browser, it's in the fourth row from the top.)

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Seems to me that indicates she took the photo; I don't think she'd show an image shot by someone else on her own site.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Thanks, disch.

I agree. Apparently, Prince did not take this photo, as is widely believed. One Orger even suggested that might even explain why Prince placed the photo in the Galaxy Room. Here is that exact comment expressed in Reply #53

So...now that we know that it is likely a Justine Walpole photo--and not taken by Prince--I guess that really does "shoot down in flames" the theory cited above.

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disch said:

You can see this galaxy room picture on Justine Walpole's site here:

http://www.justinewalpole.com/performance/

(in a desktop browser, it's in the fourth row from the top.)

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Seems to me that indicates she took the photo; I don't think she'd show an image shot by someone else on her own site.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Thanks, disch.

Hmm.People that toured PP said that they were told by their guides that the photo was taken by Prince.Andy also suggested that in a FB Q&A.Doesn't really matter I guess and he obviously liked the photo.Thanks disch!

endiadj said:

Been wanting to say this since it was brought up in this thread, Why does Kirk's word hold more water than Judith's in the sense that she says they were dating but Kirk didn't? We know Kirk hasn't been completely honest with the surroundings of Prince's death, so why is his word more truthful? I don't know of Judith lying about anything. Maybe others can help me out here. I just hope that Prince felt loved til the end. I believe he and Andy shared a romantic relationship but it ended (even though the evidence points to Prince still holding on to a soft spot for her afterwards) and he moved on to Judith. She seems like a nice young lady who cares about him too.

UPDATE :: Someone who is poring over the Carver County documents relative to the investigation of Prince's passing has informed me that, "I’m listening to the interview with Prince’s bodyguard Chris Gaither and the detective asked if Prince was dating Judith Hill and if she was his girlfriend and he said the same thing that Kirk said,that she was a singer and on his label but not his girlfriend. He said that he was not seeing anyone at the time." Moreover, my source reports that, when asked by the authorities about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH, "His driver Kim said she thought they were just friends and she said that she never saw any indication that something else was going on."

So, that now brings the count of Prince insiders who have indicated (directly or indirectly) that Prince and Judith Hill were not romantically involved up to FIVE: Kiran, Damaris, Kirk, Chris, and Kim.

What in the world does any of this have to do with the subject of this thread: The picture of Andy Allo in the Galaxy Room?

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Why don't you start another thread to offer your thoughts about the relationship between Prince and Judith Hill instead of derailing this one? I know the mods haven't been too thrilled lately with thread derailing, esp. on these girlfriend/wife threads.

FlyOnTheWall said:

endiadj said:

Been wanting to say this since it was brought up in this thread, Why does Kirk's word hold more water than Judith's in the sense that she says they were dating but Kirk didn't? We know Kirk hasn't been completely honest with the surroundings of Prince's death, so why is his word more truthful? I don't know of Judith lying about anything. Maybe others can help me out here. I just hope that Prince felt loved til the end. I believe he and Andy shared a romantic relationship but it ended (even though the evidence points to Prince still holding on to a soft spot for her afterwards) and he moved on to Judith. She seems like a nice young lady who cares about him too.

UPDATE :: Someone who is poring over the Carver County documents relative to the investigation of Prince's passing has informed me that, "I’m listening to the interview with Prince’s bodyguard Chris Gaither and the detective asked if Prince was dating Judith Hill and if she was his girlfriend and he said the same thing that Kirk said,that she was a singer and on his label but not his girlfriend. He said that he was not seeing anyone at the time." Moreover, my source reports that, when asked by the authorities about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH, "His driver Kim said she thought they were just friends and she said that she never saw any indication that something else was going on."

So, that now brings the count of Prince insiders who have indicated (directly or indirectly) that Prince and Judith Hill were not romantically involved up to FIVE: Kiran, Damaris, Kirk, Chris, and Kim.

disch said:

What in the world does any of this have to do with the subject of this thread: The picture of Andy Allo in the Galaxy Room?

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Why don't you start another thread to offer your thoughts about the relationship between Prince and Judith Hill instead of derailing this one? I know the mods haven't been too thrilled lately with thread derailing, esp. on these girlfriend/wife threads.

FlyOnTheWall said:

UPDATE :: Someone who is poring over the Carver County documents relative to the investigation of Prince's passing has informed me that, "I’m listening to the interview with Prince’s bodyguard Chris Gaither and the detective asked if Prince was dating Judith Hill and if she was his girlfriend and he said the same thing that Kirk said,that she was a singer and on his label but not his girlfriend. He said that he was not seeing anyone at the time." Moreover, my source reports that, when asked by the authorities about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH, "His driver Kim said she thought they were just friends and she said that she never saw any indication that something else was going on."

So, that now brings the count of Prince insiders who have indicated (directly or indirectly) that Prince and Judith Hill were not romantically involved up to FIVE: Kiran, Damaris, Kirk, Chris, and Kim.

Did you not see that I was following up a response to someone else's previous question? I tell you, to say that you claim to have no interest in this thread, you seem to, in actuality, be closely monitoring it. What's really up with you? Why can't you just leave my threads alone??

They're not "your threads," they're everyone's threads. If you want to have a private conversation, that's what orgnotes are for.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

What in the world does any of this have to do with the subject of this thread: The picture of Andy Allo in the Galaxy Room?

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Why don't you start another thread to offer your thoughts about the relationship between Prince and Judith Hill instead of derailing this one? I know the mods haven't been too thrilled lately with thread derailing, esp. on these girlfriend/wife threads.

Did you not see that I was following up a response to someone else's previous question? I tell you, to say that you claim to have no interest in this thread, you seem to, in actuality, be closely monitoring it. What's really up with you? Why can't you just leave my threads alone??

disch said:

They're not "your threads," they're everyone's threads. If you want to have a private conversation, that's what orgnotes are for.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Did you not see that I was following up a response to someone else's previous question? I tell you, to say that you claim to have no interest in this thread, you seem to, in actuality, be closely monitoring it. What's really up with you? Why can't you just leave my threads alone??

Unless you are a moderator, disch, it is not your place to give me such directives. Now, please don't try to derail this thread any further. What is your fascination with me? You can't seem to stay away from me.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Susu1976 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Unless you are a moderator, disch, it is not your place to give me such directives. Now, please don't try to derail this thread any further. What is your fascination with me? You can't seem to stay away from me.

No. That's exactly the the point. This is not your site, these are not your threads and just because YOU can't handle the truths as they are handed to your face don't make them less real. Get off your sanctimonious high horse, quit the patronizing bullshit, get a hobby that is actually psychologically healthy and not one more time refer to me as a same poster as another one as you apparently did again as was reported to me and voilà, yup you did covertly albeit not in this above post. You just don't want to be taken seriously, apparently. Well, I would venture a guess that ship sailed a long time ago anyway. However, do that one more time and you will get your ass reported. By the way, nobody is fascinated by you, your insanity maybe; you would make for a good case study. Other than that, don't flatter yourself. You are grasping at straws at this point. Well, you have been all along since you have no first hand,second hand or even half gossip knowledge from a rumor you heard from a homeless person on crack but y'all are certifiable at this point and it shows by the numbers on how people simply don't care about your made up conversations anymore. This has nothing to do with Disch, btw. [Edited 5/9/18 20:14pm] [Edited 5/9/18 20:32pm] [Edited 5/9/18 20:39pm]

Yes it's very apparent that Prince cared very much for Andy and nothing more needs to be said.His actions such as putting the photo up in the Galaxy room,releasing the Oui Can Luv album after she said in an interview that she hoped it would be heard one day and saving her letter speak loudly enough.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes it's very apparent that Prince cared very much for Andy and nothing more needs to be said.His actions such as putting the photo up in the Galaxy room,releasing the Oui Can Luv album after she said in an interview that she hoped it would be heard one day and saving her letter speak loudly enough.

Yeah and also him having relationship outside hers and calling her but a promotional piece and an idiot and an opportunist... Keep going. Do you wanna know the story about her dro/));, bosom...? Childish? Yes. Funny? Yup. We all laughed. Btw, that letter was "saved" amongst the trash. Was he in love with Kirk and his family too since amongst other things there was a card from them in the exact same place? I knew they were friends and all but... P.S. I HOPE it can all be heard someday, in its TRUE form. I have a feeling sun will rise from the West before that happens, though because it will NEVER fit her narrative. [Edited 5/10/18 0:10am] [Edited 5/10/18 0:11am] [Edited 5/10/18 0:13am] [Edited 5/10/18 0:15am] [Edited 5/10/18 0:26am] [Edited 5/10/18 0:50am]

The letter was saved in a notebook along with a card from Kirk and his family.Prince had photos of Kirk's children in his office and I am sure he did not consider them "trash" He obviously thought very highly of them,as he did Andy. Prince was very proud of her and her accomplishments. One of the tweets left on his twitter was congratulating her on being presented the Independence Excellence Award from 11.13.15 He was clearly very happy and excited for her.I can't see why he would continue to be so supportive of someone he had such disdain for long after the professional and personal relationship was over.

anangellooksdown said:

I think it’s become obvious that P expressed to people privately some other opinions of Andy. As I said before he always knew she was using him to some extent. Kirk told P that too, not that P didn’t know that. P was used to being used...unfortunately. That’s not being “in love”, which those who further these threads have somehow twisted the language to become. Also, it wasn’t spiritual either. What most people todays definition of spiritual is, is still not even close to the real shebang. As for the twitters, Prince tweeted about other people much more. I’ve only seen a few by him regarding or to Andy over those past few years. It seemed P had moved on. Yeah being a huge romantic and wanting it to have been different, he always grieved these things. He just didn’t make it to that next female yet. He was in a in-between place when he passed. Also he simply was never introduced to anyone who had all the things he wanted plus the experience and true spirituality to “pull him in”. He knew this.

"It's become obvious" to whom? And, based on what? Unless you can provide some evidence for your wild claims (on a thread started by YOU), angel, you really need to stop.

anangellooksdown said:

I think it’s become obvious that P expressed to people privately some other opinions of Andy. As I said before he always knew she was using him to some extent. Kirk told P that too, not that P didn’t know that. P was used to being used...unfortunately. That’s not being “in love”, which those who further these threads have somehow twisted the language to become. Also, it wasn’t spiritual either. What most people todays definition of spiritual is, is still not even close to the real shebang. As for the twitters, Prince tweeted about other people much more. I’ve only seen a few by him regarding or to Andy over those past few years. It seemed P had moved on. Yeah being a huge romantic and wanting it to have been different, he always grieved these things. He just didn’t make it to that next female yet. He was in a in-between place when he passed. Also he simply was never introduced to anyone who had all the things he wanted plus the experience and true spirituality to “pull him in”. He knew this.

Most of his tweets about Andy were deleted.He tweeted regularly about her from 2013-16. A search on twitter shows some of the responses to his tweets concerning her.He was definitely keeping up with her and tweeted his support for every project that she was involved with. I remember in December of 2015,Andy posting a Youtube video showing how to make a stained glass JELLO dessert for Christmas and after she posted it on her twitter,Prince asked his followers what was in JELLO.Some fans found that funny.He was watching. The idea that Prince realized that Andy was using him doesn't really fit his behavior in 2013 such as going to see her at NSJ Festival and wanting to release another version of Superconductor with their duets included.It seems if that was the case,he would have cut her loose for good not continue to find ways to be connected with her.It appeared he was trying to get back into her good graces.

Good lord can you guys at least just contain your Andy Allo commentary to the appropriate topic thread? This one is about the galaxy room photo, supposedly. There are a number of others that you guys are also actively posting on about Andy Allo as well.

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If they all just become the same big jumble of rehashing every detail of their tweets, their outfits etc etc (mixed in with random slams against Prince's other possible paramours), then why do you insist you need multiple threads?

pinkcashmere23 said:

anangellooksdown said:

I think it’s become obvious that P expressed to people privately some other opinions of Andy. As I said before he always knew she was using him to some extent. Kirk told P that too, not that P didn’t know that. P was used to being used...unfortunately. That’s not being “in love”, which those who further these threads have somehow twisted the language to become. Also, it wasn’t spiritual either. What most people todays definition of spiritual is, is still not even close to the real shebang. As for the twitters, Prince tweeted about other people much more. I’ve only seen a few by him regarding or to Andy over those past few years. It seemed P had moved on. Yeah being a huge romantic and wanting it to have been different, he always grieved these things. He just didn’t make it to that next female yet. He was in a in-between place when he passed. Also he simply was never introduced to anyone who had all the things he wanted plus the experience and true spirituality to “pull him in”. He knew this.

Most of his tweets about Andy were deleted.He tweeted regularly about her from 2013-16. A search on twitter shows some of the responses to his tweets concerning her.He was definitely keeping up with her and tweeted his support for every project that she was involved with. I remember in December of 2015,Andy posting a Youtube video showing how to make a stained glass JELLO dessert for Christmas and after she posted it on her twitter,Prince asked his followers what was in JELLO.Some fans found that funny.He was watching. The idea that Prince realized that Andy was using him doesn't really fit his behavior in 2013 such as going to see her at NSJ Festival and wanting to release another version of Superconductor with their duets included.It seems if that was the case,he would have cut her loose for good not continue to find ways to be connected with her.It appeared he was trying to get back into her good graces.

disch said:

Good lord can you guys at least just contain your Andy Allo commentary to the appropriate topic thread? This one is about the galaxy room photo, supposedly. There are a number of others that you guys are also actively posting on about Andy Allo as well.

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If they all just become the same big jumble of rehashing every detail of their tweets, their outfits etc etc (mixed in with random slams against Prince's other possible paramours), then why do you insist you need multiple threads?

pinkcashmere23 said:

Most of his tweets about Andy were deleted.He tweeted regularly about her from 2013-16. A search on twitter shows some of the responses to his tweets concerning her.He was definitely keeping up with her and tweeted his support for every project that she was involved with. I remember in December of 2015,Andy posting a Youtube video showing how to make a stained glass JELLO dessert for Christmas and after she posted it on her twitter,Prince asked his followers what was in JELLO.Some fans found that funny.He was watching. The idea that Prince realized that Andy was using him doesn't really fit his behavior in 2013 such as going to see her at NSJ Festival and wanting to release another version of Superconductor with their duets included.It seems if that was the case,he would have cut her loose for good not continue to find ways to be connected with her.It appeared he was trying to get back into her good graces.

There you go with your moderator lingo, disch. What is that about??

disch said:

Good lord can you guys at least just contain your Andy Allo commentary to the appropriate topic thread? This one is about the galaxy room photo, supposedly. There are a number of others that you guys are also actively posting on about Andy Allo as well.

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If they all just become the same big jumble of rehashing every detail of their tweets, their outfits etc etc (mixed in with random slams against Prince's other possible paramours), then why do you insist you need multiple threads?

pinkcashmere23 said:

Most of his tweets about Andy were deleted.He tweeted regularly about her from 2013-16. A search on twitter shows some of the responses to his tweets concerning her.He was definitely keeping up with her and tweeted his support for every project that she was involved with. I remember in December of 2015,Andy posting a Youtube video showing how to make a stained glass JELLO dessert for Christmas and after she posted it on her twitter,Prince asked his followers what was in JELLO.Some fans found that funny.He was watching. The idea that Prince realized that Andy was using him doesn't really fit his behavior in 2013 such as going to see her at NSJ Festival and wanting to release another version of Superconductor with their duets included.It seems if that was the case,he would have cut her loose for good not continue to find ways to be connected with her.It appeared he was trying to get back into her good graces.

I commented earlier about the photo and that Prince must have cared for her because of it.Someone else came in to point out reasons for that not being the case. He obviously put it up for for some reason.Maybe it was to make us ask questions.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said: