pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Here they are. I think Prince took all of them. He really had an eye.

"Yellow Gold"



"The Story of U and I"





"When Our Stars Collide"



"Long Gone" & "The Calm"

[Edited 4/29/18 14:36pm]

They are beautiful! He did have quite a talent for photography. Andy said during her Q&A that all of the outside shots were taken at the arboretum and implied that they are by Prince.She talked as though he took a lot of photos of her there.

[Edited 4/29/18 16:39pm]

One day, I hope the Estate will publish his photography, perhaps in a book or rotating exhibits at Paisley Park. Such exhibits would be a way to make sure there is something new for the Celebration each year. That would give us a look at his view of the world.

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

They are beautiful! He did have quite a talent for photography. Andy said during her Q&A that all of the outside shots were taken at the arboretum and implied that they are by Prince.She talked as though he took a lot of photos of her there.

[Edited 4/29/18 16:39pm]

One day, I hope the Estate will publish his photography, perhaps in a book or rotating exhibits at Paisley Park. Such exhibits would be a way to make sure there is something new for the Celebration each year. That would give us a look at his view of the world.

That would be amazing! I saw that some of the fans mentioned in a post on PRN Family's Twitter that they would love a book or an exhibit at PP that showcased his photography so maybe it will become a reality.

Pretty pictures...I finally allowed myself to watch Pitch Perfect 3...I had held off deliberately cuz I knew seeing Andy Allo would just remind me of P and 4/21/16 and I didn't wanna be sadder than usual...Honestly, I don't understand why them having a bit of a romance seems to get some folks so annoyed...Was it an iconic love affair?...I dunno, mebbe, mebbe not...But what interests me more than the cuteness of thier time together is that for whatever it was or wasn't and regardless how long it lasted, it makes me happy to know that P looked happy during the time they were together...He seemed relaxed and content...and that's a good thing to me...Whatever other gals also have places in the Purple Harem, even way back in the standing room only festival seating of the "one-offs/jump-offs/drivebys/no names", they all served a purpose in Purple Mythology...If they made him happy in whatever miniscule way, I'm glad...I think she made him happy more than folks wanna admit...and she's been very discreet about discussing him so that's a + as well...

[Edited 4/30/18 12:05pm]

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

Pretty pictures...I finally allowed myself to watch Pitch Perfect 3...I had held off deliberately cuz I knew seeing Andy Allo would just remind me of P and 4/21/16 and I didn't wanna be sadder than usual...Honestly, I don't understand why them having a bit of a romance seems to get some folks so annoyed...Was it an iconic love affair?...I dunno, mebbe, mebbe not...But what inerests me more than the cuteness of thier time together is that for whatever it was or wasn't and regardless how long it lasted, it makes me happy to know that P looked happy during the time they were together...He seemed relaxed and content...and that's a good thing to me...Whatever other gals also have places in the Purple Harem, even way back in the standing room only festival seating of the "one-offs/jump-offs/drivebys/no names", they all served a purpose in Purple Mythology...If they made him happy in whatever miniscule way, I glad...I think she made him happy more than folks wanna admit...and she's been very discreet about discussing him so that's a + as well...

sharpieheartz said:

Hi, LBrent! I really like this post you made. It’s the same reason why I like them together. Even if they weren’t in a relationship or not. He seemed really happy during that period. Genuinely happy, might I add. [Edited 4/30/18 11:49am]

That's all I'm sayin...as for that JH gal, I always felt she was overstating her role in his life...And since the police records of Kirk's comments to the police state emphatically that JH was NOT P's girlfriend that's nuff said...Anybody in their feelings about that can take it up with KirkyJ and the Carver County authorities who released that statement as part of the official investigation interveiw documentation...In addition to which, KirkyJ didn't even claim JH as HIS OWN girfriend in those documents, which was another rumour on these forums...Sooooooo, I'm gonna haveta say that it looks doubtful that JH had a romantic role at PP, unless it was onesided on her part...Sorry, not sorry...

[Edited 4/30/18 12:17pm]

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

Pretty pictures...I finally allowed myself to watch Pitch Perfect 3...I had held off deliberately cuz I knew seeing Andy Allo would just remind me of P and 4/21/16 and I didn't wanna be sadder than usual...Honestly, I don't understand why them having a bit of a romance seems to get some folks so annoyed...Was it an iconic love affair?...I dunno, mebbe, mebbe not...But what interests me more than the cuteness of thier time together is that for whatever it was or wasn't and regardless how long it lasted, it makes me happy to know that P looked happy during the time they were together...He seemed relaxed and content...and that's a good thing to me...Whatever other gals also have places in the Purple Harem, even way back in the standing room only festival seating of the "one-offs/jump-offs/drivebys/no names", they all served a purpose in Purple Mythology...If they made him happy in whatever miniscule way, I'm glad...I think she made him happy more than folks wanna admit...and she's been very discreet about discussing him so that's a + as well...

[Edited 4/30/18 12:05pm]

I concur. Prince seemed happier than at any time in his final years when he was with Andy, who has been the soul of discretion.

FlyOnTheWall said:

LBrent said:

Pretty pictures...I finally allowed myself to watch Pitch Perfect 3...I had held off deliberately cuz I knew seeing Andy Allo would just remind me of P and 4/21/16 and I didn't wanna be sadder than usual...Honestly, I don't understand why them having a bit of a romance seems to get some folks so annoyed...Was it an iconic love affair?...I dunno, mebbe, mebbe not...But what interests me more than the cuteness of thier time together is that for whatever it was or wasn't and regardless how long it lasted, it makes me happy to know that P looked happy during the time they were together...He seemed relaxed and content...and that's a good thing to me...Whatever other gals also have places in the Purple Harem, even way back in the standing room only festival seating of the "one-offs/jump-offs/drivebys/no names", they all served a purpose in Purple Mythology...If they made him happy in whatever miniscule way, I'm glad...I think she made him happy more than folks wanna admit...and she's been very discreet about discussing him so that's a + as well...

[Edited 4/30/18 12:05pm]

I concur. Prince seemed happier than at any time in his final years when he was with Andy, who has been the soul of discretion.

I agree. I love watching the shows from back then,not just because of the amazing performances but he came across as being genuinely happy and I love to see him that way.They were so playful with each other onstage too,especially during the Welcome 2 Canada shows.

Krystalkisses said:

It seems like she meant a lot to him. <3

I agree, Krystalkisses! That is becoming increasingly clear.

endiadj said:

Been wanting to say this since it was brought up in this thread, Why does Kirk's word hold more water than Judith's in the sense that she says they were dating but Kirk didn't? We know Kirk hasn't been completely honest with the surroundings of Prince's death, so why is his word more truthful? I don't know of Judith lying about anything. Maybe others can help me out here. I just hope that Prince felt loved til the end. I believe he and Andy shared a romantic relationship but it ended (even though the evidence points to Prince still holding on to a soft spot for her afterwards) and he moved on to Judith. She seems like a nice young lady who cares about him too.

Personally, Kirk's word doesn't hold more weight than JH with me...But then again, Kirk never claimed to be dating P, only to recant when questioned by police...

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JH did...and her recantationionion was corroborated by Kirk, among others, meaning she was NOT truthful about being P's girlfriend...

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If anyone made JH's word not hold much weight, it's JH herself...Apparently, JH wasn't satisfied with simply being known as a citizen of the Purple Kingdom and basking in the glittery purpleness, she wanted to be know as a member of the Purple Harem...like P needed another concubine, sheesh...

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Nawhaddimean?...

endiadj said:

Been wanting to say this since it was brought up in this thread, Why does Kirk's word hold more water than Judith's in the sense that she says they were dating but Kirk didn't? We know Kirk hasn't been completely honest with the surroundings of Prince's death, so why is his word more truthful? I don't know of Judith lying about anything. Maybe others can help me out here. I just hope that Prince felt loved til the end. I believe he and Andy shared a romantic relationship but it ended (even though the evidence points to Prince still holding on to a soft spot for her afterwards) and he moved on to Judith. She seems like a nice young lady who cares about him too.

I also think that Judith is a nice woman, so I've been very careful with what I say in this regard. That notwithstanding, not one Prince insider has ever given even the slightest hint that Judith and Prince were romantically involved. As I have said previously, Damaris and Kiran seemed furious on social media after the New York Times article. One of them even accused her of "romanticizing" the situation.

Also, I read her transcript very carefully. She says that Prince called her the day before the Atlanta concert and invited her to come to the show. She says that she flew in...after which she checked into her hotel. Again, she checked into a hotel. Now, f she were really his girlfriend, wouldn't she have gone directly to her man who had recently cancelled shows and was not feeling well?

Moreover, I had heard previously that she stayed at a hotel when she was at Paisley working on her album, so this account is right in line with that. I will always believe that's why Prince produce that promo piece for her album with her trudging across that frozen tundra at the break of dawn and ringing the buzzer to gain entry to Paisley Park. IMHO, that might have been his way of letting it be known that Judith was not sleeping at The Park.

Additionally, when the police asked her which side of the bed Prince slept on, that question seemed to really throw her for a loop. After floundering for a bit, she finally said, "The side closest to the bathroom." IMHO, that was a very strange and awkward exchange.

Then, there is the matter of Prince having Andy's photo in the Galaxy Room? Would he have done that if he had a new girlfriend hanging around? Not to mention all his social media posts that seemed to be directed at Andy and his many comments about "her" and "she" during his PAAM shows.

Lastly, why would Kirk lie about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH? Mind you, I, too, believe he's not being completely forthcoming with the authorities, but that is somewhat understandable with so much at stake (NOT THAT I'M JUSTIFYING LYING TO THE POLICE, I HASTEN TO ADD). I'm just saying...

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

endiadj said:

Been wanting to say this since it was brought up in this thread, Why does Kirk's word hold more water than Judith's in the sense that she says they were dating but Kirk didn't? We know Kirk hasn't been completely honest with the surroundings of Prince's death, so why is his word more truthful? I don't know of Judith lying about anything. Maybe others can help me out here. I just hope that Prince felt loved til the end. I believe he and Andy shared a romantic relationship but it ended (even though the evidence points to Prince still holding on to a soft spot for her afterwards) and he moved on to Judith. She seems like a nice young lady who cares about him too.

It seems obvious to me when i read what Kirk said that he was saying it to discredit her. He probably thought she was going to tell the truth and wanted the police to think her story didn't add up. Yet he comes across as shifty as hell, and she sounds very honest. Ive no reason to believe she is lying. I believe they were romantically involved, but probably not officially a "girlfriend". It seems P always was romancing several ladies at once, and yes even through the Andy years.

Sorry to try to be a voice of reason on an AA thread...but has anyone actually considered he wanted this photo on display because its his photo and he was very proud of hit? It is probably imo one of the best composed, well lit pics he took. Just wanted to throw that in there...but i shall prepare to be shot down in flames

endiadj said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I also think that Judith is a nice woman, so I've been very careful with what I say in this regard. That notwithstanding, not one Prince insider has ever given even the slightest hint that Judith and Prince were romantically involved. As I have said previously, Damaris and Kiran seemed furious on social media after the New York Times article. One of them even accused her of "romanticizing" the situation.

Also, I read her transcript very carefully. She says that Prince called her the day before the Atlanta concert and invited her to come to the show. She says that she flew in...after which she checked into her hotel. Again, she checked into a hotel. Now, f she were really his girlfriend, wouldn't she have gone directly to her man who had recently cancelled shows and was not feeling well?

Moreover, I had heard previously that she stayed at a hotel when she was at Paisley working on her album, so this account is right in line with that. I will always believe that's why Prince produce that promo piece for her album with her trudging across that frozen tundra at the break of dawn and ringing the buzzer to gain entry to Paisley Park. IMHO, that might have been his way of letting it be known that Judith was not sleeping at The Park.

Additionally, when the police asked her which side of the bed Prince slept on, that question seemed to really throw her for a loop. After floundering for a bit, she finally said, "The side closest to the bathroom." IMHO, that was a very strange and awkward exchange.

Then, there is the matter of Prince having Andy's photo in the Galaxy Room? Would he have done that if he had a new girlfriend hanging around? Not to mention all his social media posts that seemed to be directed at Andy and his many comments about "her" and "she" during his PAAM shows.

Lastly, why would Kirk lie about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH? Mind you, I, too, believe he's not being completely forthcoming with the authorities, but that is somewhat understandable with so much at stake (NOT THAT I'M JUSTIFYING LYING TO THE POLICE, I HASTEN TO ADD). I'm just saying...

I appreciate your post and the details. To the Demaris/Kiran quote, I'd argue it was more the details of what happened on the plane that Judith offered up than anything else that upset them, but who knows for sure. About her staying at a hotel, we have to remember, Prince was in his last few months here. Maybe he didn't want anyone to close for fear of finding out what was really going on with him. I stated before that's why he called it off with Andy. Things were getting too serious with them, but he understood he was in a bad place and didn't want her wrapped up in on it. As far as which side of the bed he slept on, that's a weird question. I sleep on different sides. Maybe she was nervous during questioning. It had to have been stressful. And, why would Kirk lie? Why has he basically lied and withheld any info pertaining to his longtime friends death? Why have many others who claim to love Prince lied and withheld info? I believe he and Judith were dating. Nothing too serious, but dating none the less. I just hold on to that as comfort that he was loved by someone close.

I believe they were at least going out together and hanging out and watching movies and that constitutes dating in my mind. I also thought it was rather odd the way she responded when asked what side of the bed he slept on,so I'm not sure their relationship went that far or she may have been flustered and not thinking clearly. From what she said,they had a somewhat long distance relationship with her flying back and forth from LA to Minneapolis.She may not have wanted to stay at PP and preferred to stay at the hotel.I don't think Damaris and Kiran were insinuating that Judith was lying about dating Prince.Kiran seemed to be saying that she thought Judith telling what happened on the plane was romanticizing it for promotional purposes and she said it was "gross." I've always felt that Judith was trying to help clear up some of the rumors that were going around and tell the truth of what happened and she ended up getting a lot of flack for it.

pinkcashmere23 said:

endiadj said:

FlyOnTheWall said: I appreciate your post and the details. To the Demaris/Kiran quote, I'd argue it was more the details of what happened on the plane that Judith offered up than anything else that upset them, but who knows for sure. About her staying at a hotel, we have to remember, Prince was in his last few months here. Maybe he didn't want anyone to close for fear of finding out what was really going on with him. I stated before that's why he called it off with Andy. Things were getting too serious with them, but he understood he was in a bad place and didn't want her wrapped up in on it. As far as which side of the bed he slept on, that's a weird question. I sleep on different sides. Maybe she was nervous during questioning. It had to have been stressful. And, why would Kirk lie? Why has he basically lied and withheld any info pertaining to his longtime friends death? Why have many others who claim to love Prince lied and withheld info? I believe he and Judith were dating. Nothing too serious, but dating none the less. I just hold on to that as comfort that he was loved by someone close.

I believe they were at least going out together and hanging out and watching movies and that constitutes dating in my mind. I also thought it was rather odd the way she responded when asked what side of the bed he slept on,so I'm not sure their relationship went that far or she may have been flustered and not thinking clearly. From what she said,they had a somewhat long distance relationship with her flying back and forth from LA to Minneapolis.She may not have wanted to stay at PP and preferred to stay at the hotel.I don't think Damaris and Kiran were insinuating that Judith was lying about dating Prince.Kiran seemed to be saying that she thought Judith telling what happened on the plane was romanticizing it for promotional purposes and she said it was "gross." I've always felt that Judith was trying to help clear up some of the rumors that were going around and tell the truth of what happened and she ended up getting a lot of flack for it.

It is a well-known fact that Prince LOVED movies, but I don't think he was dating every woman that he watched movies with. And, I guess Kiran made the "gross" remark because of the timing of the Times article, which ran just a few days before Judith's upcoming performances, which were promoted in the article. Of course, that might have been just a fortuitous coincidence for JH. Lastly, I don't think that "romanticize" is an ambiguous word. Thus, IMHO, that statement speaks for itself.

[Edited 5/2/18 18:15pm]

petalthecat said:

Sorry to try to be a voice of reason on an AA thread...but has anyone actually considered he wanted this photo on display because its his photo and he was very proud of hit? It is probably imo one of the best composed, well lit pics he took. Just wanted to throw that in there...but i shall prepare to be shot down in flames

I thought of that too and it was beautifully shot,I agree. The photo he took for Story of You & I is great too! A woman commented on Andy's Facebook that she saw the photo at Paisley and said "I didn't know you guys were dating."Most people seem to see it as a romantic gesture and tell Andy that he loved her and such but it's true that only he knew what the purpose of putting it up was.

endiadj said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I also think that Judith is a nice woman, so I've been very careful with what I say in this regard. That notwithstanding, not one Prince insider has ever given even the slightest hint that Judith and Prince were romantically involved. As I have said previously, Damaris and Kiran seemed furious on social media after the New York Times article. One of them even accused her of "romanticizing" the situation.

Also, I read her transcript very carefully. She says that Prince called her the day before the Atlanta concert and invited her to come to the show. She says that she flew in...after which she checked into her hotel. Again, she checked into a hotel. Now, f she were really his girlfriend, wouldn't she have gone directly to her man who had recently cancelled shows and was not feeling well?

Moreover, I had heard previously that she stayed at a hotel when she was at Paisley working on her album, so this account is right in line with that. I will always believe that's why Prince produce that promo piece for her album with her trudging across that frozen tundra at the break of dawn and ringing the buzzer to gain entry to Paisley Park. IMHO, that might have been his way of letting it be known that Judith was not sleeping at The Park.

Additionally, when the police asked her which side of the bed Prince slept on, that question seemed to really throw her for a loop. After floundering for a bit, she finally said, "The side closest to the bathroom." IMHO, that was a very strange and awkward exchange.

Then, there is the matter of Prince having Andy's photo in the Galaxy Room? Would he have done that if he had a new girlfriend hanging around? Not to mention all his social media posts that seemed to be directed at Andy and his many comments about "her" and "she" during his PAAM shows.

Lastly, why would Kirk lie about the nature of Prince's relationship with JH? Mind you, I, too, believe he's not being completely forthcoming with the authorities, but that is somewhat understandable with so much at stake (NOT THAT I'M JUSTIFYING LYING TO THE POLICE, I HASTEN TO ADD). I'm just saying...

I appreciate your post and the details. To the Demaris/Kiran quote, I'd argue it was more the details of what happened on the plane that Judith offered up than anything else that upset them, but who knows for sure. About her staying at a hotel, we have to remember, Prince was in his last few months here. Maybe he didn't want anyone to close for fear of finding out what was really going on with him. I stated before that's why he called it off with Andy. Things were getting too serious with them, but he understood he was in a bad place and didn't want her wrapped up in on it. As far as which side of the bed he slept on, that's a weird question. I sleep on different sides. Maybe she was nervous during questioning. It had to have been stressful. And, why would Kirk lie? Why has he basically lied and withheld any info pertaining to his longtime friends death? Why have many others who claim to love Prince lied and withheld info? I believe he and Judith were dating. Nothing too serious, but dating none the less. I just hold on to that as comfort that he was loved by someone close.

That sure didn't stop him from reportedly saying...to some unnamed someone...at one of the PAAM shows, perhaps at one of the Paisley Park shows, "You can come home. Don't be scared" (or something very similar). Perhaps someone who has seen that show can confirm that remark.

petalthecat said:

Sorry to try to be a voice of reason on an AA thread...but has anyone actually considered he wanted this photo on display because its his photo and he was very proud of hit? It is probably imo one of the best composed, well lit pics he took. Just wanted to throw that in there...but i shall prepare to be shot down in flames

I agree, he was probably proud of the photo, not that he signed it or anything...but he also seemed extremely proud of (and fond of) AA.

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That sure didn't stop him from reportedly saying...to some unnamed someone...at one of the PAAM shows, perhaps at one of the Paisley Park shows, "You can come home. Don't be scared" (or something very similar). Perhaps someone who has seen that show can confirm that remark.

Yes, and he also sang very heartfeltedly on his very first album a song called “Baby”, where he tells a woman so beautifully that he doesn’t want to regret “what I’ve done to you” (getting her pregnant) and that whatever she wants to do he’ll still love her, and that he “hopes our baby has eyes just like you.” There was no pregnant girlfriend, of course; that’s just his thinking, writing and singing style. In fact he said later that he basically locked himself away for a long time and that there were no girls, while he worked on his music. That’s the way the man thought and sang. Very attractive to the female ear. [Edited 5/2/18 17:57pm]

And, HOW, pray tell, do you know that there was no pregnant girlfriend? Just because there is no known child doesn't mean that there was not an actual pregnancy. You know, you really have the very unfortunate habit of jumping to conclusions with nothing to support them.

FlyOnTheWall said:

endiadj said:

FlyOnTheWall said: I appreciate your post and the details. To the Demaris/Kiran quote, I'd argue it was more the details of what happened on the plane that Judith offered up than anything else that upset them, but who knows for sure. About her staying at a hotel, we have to remember, Prince was in his last few months here. Maybe he didn't want anyone to close for fear of finding out what was really going on with him. I stated before that's why he called it off with Andy. Things were getting too serious with them, but he understood he was in a bad place and didn't want her wrapped up in on it. As far as which side of the bed he slept on, that's a weird question. I sleep on different sides. Maybe she was nervous during questioning. It had to have been stressful. And, why would Kirk lie? Why has he basically lied and withheld any info pertaining to his longtime friends death? Why have many others who claim to love Prince lied and withheld info? I believe he and Judith were dating. Nothing too serious, but dating none the less. I just hold on to that as comfort that he was loved by someone close.

That sure didn't stop him from reportedly saying...to some unnamed someone...at one of the PAAM shows, perhaps at one of the Paisley Park shows, "You can come home. Don't be scared" (or something very similar). Perhaps someone who has seen that show can confirm that remark.

He said that at the end of 1000 X's & O's.

pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That sure didn't stop him from reportedly saying...to some unnamed someone...at one of the PAAM shows, perhaps at one of the Paisley Park shows, "You can come home. Don't be scared" (or something very similar). Perhaps someone who has seen that show can confirm that remark.

He said that at the end of 1000 X's & O's.

OK. When and where did he say that?

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

He said that at the end of 1000 X's & O's.

OK. When and where did he say that?

Paisley. I believe in the first P&M show. Coincidently,it was that song that Andy tweeted about and Prince responded by tweeting the pic of the dog in the snow.It is one of her favorite recent songs of his,along with Sticky Like Glue but I don't know if Prince was aware of that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

And, HOW, pray tell, do you know that there was no pregnant girlfriend? Just because there is no known child doesn't mean that there was not an actual pregnancy. You know, you really have the very unfortunate habit of jumping to conclusions with nothing to support them.

Ah! The “blame-shifting” tactic again to avoid addressing the great points I’ve made. Here. Let me put them in red.

And, let me put my point to you in red. What I'm saying, Chile, is that you are just grasping at straws since you have NO way of knowing if he was singing about actual events or not. Not that the song "Baby" has anything to do with the many poignant reflections he reportedly made during his PAAM shows. But, then again, that has never stopped you from throwing in the kitchen sink to try to derail an Andy Allo thread. Poor baby.

Krystalkisses said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I agree, Krystalkisses! That is becoming increasingly clear.