purplethunder3121 said:

I think Andy wants to move on with her life past any grief and association with the Prince camp and I can't blame her. She's young and has a whole life time ahead of her. That might be good advice for others not in the Prince camp at all...

I agree. I've noticed that she hasn't "liked" any tweets about him lately and with the exception of the article the other day, she hasn't made any new posts concerning him,nor has she posted about him on her other social media though that may change on the 21st.I believe that may be why she stopped the Music Mondays too.

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I think Andy wants to move on with her life past any grief and association with the Prince camp and I can't blame her. She's young and has a whole life time ahead of her. That might be good advice for others not in the Prince camp at all...

I agree. I've noticed that she hasn't "liked" any tweets about him lately and with the exception of the article the other day, she hasn't made any new posts concerning him,nor has she posted about him on her other social media though that may change on the 21st.I believe that may be why she stopped the Music Mondays too.

That doesn't mean that she didn't or doesn't care about Prince at all... That's just a way to deal with grief and carry on with your life, especially for one so young. Just my opinion, of course.

purplethunder3121 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I agree. I've noticed that she hasn't "liked" any tweets about him lately and with the exception of the article the other day, she hasn't made any new posts concerning him,nor has she posted about him on her other social media though that may change on the 21st.I believe that may be why she stopped the Music Mondays too.

That doesn't mean that she didn't or doesn't care about Prince at all... That's just a way to deal with grief and carry on with your life, especially for one so young. Just my opinion, of course.

I agree. It seemed she was having a hard time for a while but she appears to be healing now.

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

That doesn't mean that she didn't or doesn't care about Prince at all... That's just a way to deal with grief and carry on with your life, especially for one so young. Just my opinion, of course.

I agree. It seemed she was having a hard time for a while but she appears to be healing now.

I think Judith Hill might be having a harder time with it since her association with Prince was closer to his passing. I saw her open for Maceo Parker in the winter of 2016, playing the piano and singing the songs Prince produced for her album...and she seemed very raw and emotional at the time--the songs were searing for anyone who knew the history of them. I hope she can heal and move on, too... BTW when I say move on, that means with your own life, not that you forget or get over someone passing on. Because you don't.

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In response to the "thing" about Prince's ring, in this black and white photo captured by Justine Walpole, they appear to have swapped rings. She was seen wearing it in other photos as well. Just saying...

purplethunder3121 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I agree. It seemed she was having a hard time for a while but she appears to be healing now.

I think Judith Hill might be having a harder time with it since her association with Prince was closer to his passing. I saw her open for Maceo Parker in the winter of 2016, playing the piano and singing the songs Prince produced for her album...and she seemed very raw and emotional at the time--the songs were searing for anyone who knew the history of them. I hope she can heal and move on, too... BTW when I say move on, that means with your own life, not that you forget or get over someone passing on. Because you don't.

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I understand what your saying. Judith's performance of You Are So Beautiful To Me from last year that Latin posted a while back was very emotional as well.Her performance at the Troubadour too.

I'm very glad to see Andy is healing and moving forward. I'm sure she holds a very special place for Prince in her heart always. As she said a while ago, he isn't here to encourage and push her anymore so she has to learn the rest on her own.

pinkcashmere23 said:

sharpieheartz said:

In response to the "thing" about Prince's ring, in this black and white photo captured by Justine Walpole, they appear to have swapped rings. She was seen wearing it in other photos as well. Just saying...

You're right.Unless he had a similar one.Andy also wore what appeared to be another woven ring with diamonds.She wore it from summer 2012 to fall of 2013.

I think that when we look at things Prince did or said onstage we need to remember: He was performing. It was a show meant to engage and entertain an audience. He was meticulous in the image he wanted to craft on stage, so I think picking apart his stage comments as if they are a literal look into his deepest feelings is a real stretch, as is projecting the emotions that we as the audience have onto him as the performer.

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Same with the idea that he wrote songs as mash notes to his latest girlfriend, crush, whatever. I don't think that's how he worked as an artist or musician. Not that he didn't glean inpiration from his actual life, but that the creative process involved a variety of factors, and sometimes took place over a longer period of time (he'd work on something, put it aside, pick it up years later, etc at times).

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I agree with Benni and others about the silliness of this whole discussion. This sounds like a lot of junior-high-school-level mooning. The best way we can honor Prince is not by dissecting his relationships with various women, or by "stanning" over these people via analysis of the secret meaning in their every instagram post of whatever, but by listening to his music.

pinkcashmere23 said:

During the P&M shows he was talking before,during and after performing some of the songs,saying things like,"She didn't like this one." and "One more and maybe I'll have her out of my system."

Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

As I have posted before I have only posted about actual occurrences.Things that I know actually happened or about social media posts that either Prince,AA or an associate of his made and posted for all to see.I have no strategy or agenda when it comes to Andy and Prince gave enough indication that he cared about her that it speaks for itself.His tweets about her,what his associates have said,the songs they wrote together and leaving her photo up at PP is enough for me to know that she was special to him in some way.Andy was wearing Prince's diamond pinky ring for a time in 2012.Dr Funk acknowledged it on his site back then.I love the music that he and Andy did together and I thought they were cute together onstage summer of 2011 and some of 12.Prince was still pulling from their work togther and sharing it with us on his albums but unless you know different,they were no longer dating and Andy was seeing another man in 2015 and 16 so what does it matter? It's not like they were still together.I do remember that you posted something about Prince not being in to Andy when they performed in Helsinki yet I saw a comment that a journalist from there made to Andy in one of her IG posts and she said their performance was fire.

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Read that post again several times as you seem slow. My post to you was NOTHING about the show in Helsinki but what was going on outside of it! See how you spin shit? I SPECIFICALLY sad how Andy was nowhere at Kämp, the Mannerheim Suite to be exact and how Prince couldn't care less. She was not hanging out at Teatteri or Torni and it was because he made it so.,.This was after the show and you should be literate enough to understand that from the post. In fact you were since you said that they weren't serious at the time and gave that as a reasoning. Btw, You weren't at the Hki concert so there's a lot you have NOOOOO idea about. Then (I hate to break this to you) Rinse and repeat in Rotterdam since Oslo was cancelled and then ditto -> -> DO NOT TWIST MY WORDS. You're seriously reaching. I will call your ass out EVERY. SNGLE. TIME.

My point was that the journalist mentioned to Andy that she noticed their onstage chemistry.

sharpieheartz said:

I'm very glad to see Andy is healing and moving forward. I'm sure she holds a very special place for Prince in her heart always. As she said a while ago, he isn't here to encourage and push her anymore so she has to learn the rest on her own.

I agree. Nicely said.

Also, Prince & The NPG in Helsinki:

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/108012573054204797021/album/AF1QipOVF8ysNtKPccYegCHAKkHTMdIVpH9MBKJztlN_

sharpieheartz said:

disch said:

I think that when we look at things Prince did or said onstage we need to remember: He was performing. It was a show meant to engage and entertain an audience. He was meticulous in the image he wanted to craft on stage, so I think picking apart his stage comments as if they are a literal look into his deepest feelings is a real stretch, as is projecting the emotions that we as the audience have onto him as the performer.

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Same with the idea that he wrote songs as mash notes to his latest girlfriend, crush, whatever. I don't think that's how he worked as an artist or musician. Not that he didn't glean inpiration from his actual life, but that the creative process involved a variety of factors, and sometimes took place over a longer period of time (he'd work on something, put it aside, pick it up years later, etc at times).

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I agree with Benni and others about the silliness of this whole discussion. This sounds like a lot of junior-high-school-level mooning. The best way we can honor Prince is not by dissecting his relationships with various women, or by "stanning" over these people via analysis of the secret meaning in their every instagram post of whatever, but by listening to his music.

pinkcashmere23 said:

During the P&M shows he was talking before,during and after performing some of the songs,saying things like,"She didn't like this one." and "One more and maybe I'll have her out of my system."

Right. I was just saying that Prince saying those things led some of the fans to wonder who he was referring to. I also was talking about the music that we actually know was written for certain women in his life and appreciating them as the inspiration behind it.Such as disc 2 on Emancipation that Prince said was inspired by Mayte for instance.

disch said:

I think that when we look at things Prince did or said onstage we need to remember: He was performing. It was a show meant to engage and entertain an audience. He was meticulous in the image he wanted to craft on stage, so I think picking apart his stage comments as if they are a literal look into his deepest feelings is a real stretch, as is projecting the emotions that we as the audience have onto him as the performer.

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Same with the idea that he wrote songs as mash notes to his latest girlfriend, crush, whatever. I don't think that's how he worked as an artist or musician. Not that he didn't glean inpiration from his actual life, but that the creative process involved a variety of factors, and sometimes took place over a longer period of time (he'd work on something, put it aside, pick it up years later, etc at times).

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I agree with Benni and others about the silliness of this whole discussion. This sounds like a lot of junior-high-school-level mooning. The best way we can honor Prince is not by dissecting his relationships with various women, or by "stanning" over these people via analysis of the secret meaning in their every instagram post of whatever, but by listening to his music.

pinkcashmere23 said:

During the P&M shows he was talking before,during and after performing some of the songs,saying things like,"She didn't like this one." and "One more and maybe I'll have her out of my system."

I agree with your comments about Prince being a master showman and experienced manipulator of his image, music, and public persona. That doesn't mean that he didn't have affection for or relationships with the women involved but we can't attribute every event or comment to a specific woman he may or may not have been romantically involved with. If you want to know the man, listen to his music...but don't try to hook it to a single person; it is more universal than that. Which is why it applies to you. the listener, too...

sharpieheartz said:

You're missing the point here, Susu. Pink has already established that she wore it from 2012-2013. Watch the People Pleaser and RNRLA vids. But here's one photo Prince took that she never posted. I'm not here to convince anyone that Prince and Andy had some epic fairytale lovestory nor do I have an agenda. I'm just like others who are curious.

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

In response to the "thing" about Prince's ring, in this black and white photo captured by Justine Walpole, they appear to have swapped rings. She was seen wearing it in other photos as well. Just saying...

Show me a candid pic of her wearing it that wasn't published on her IG or wasn't a promotional pic. Before or after his passing.

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Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

In response to the "thing" about Prince's ring, in this black and white photo captured by Justine Walpole, they appear to have swapped rings. She was seen wearing it in other photos as well. Just saying...

Show me a candid pic of her wearing it that wasn't published on her IG or wasn't a promotional pic. Before or after his passing.

That photo was from a private collection and was never seen before Andy released it with her tribute to him. It was not a photo used for promotion and it has been said that outtakes from the shoot exist. Andy wore it for the People Pleaser video and was showing it off seemingly for effect.

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

Also, Prince & The NPG in Helsinki:

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/108012573054204797021/album/AF1QipOVF8ysNtKPccYegCHAKkHTMdIVpH9MBKJztlN_

And? A romantic stroll on the Esplanade? No, hon...continue drawing those sharpie hearts fantasy novels.....YOU WEREN'T THERE. You had to enter your sorryass into this ( I was wondering where the third psycho was) the because your buddy just got told off and your other one seems to be on a leave of absence. You're still not answering my questions. [Edited 4/18/18 19:49pm] [Edited 4/18/18 19:49pm]

Are you mentally okay? This isn't shade either. I'm just asking... are you ok?

And on that note, I'm logging off.

Pink, you don't need to respond to a post and include the same gigantic images (which we've all seen a bunch of times) in your replies. Just delete the photos.

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And seriously -- I'm not going to repeat this because I know there's no effect (there's no stopping you and the 2 other posters when it comes to Andy Allo; your stamina for posting about her has no apparant limit). But you sound like a 12 year old! Picking apart photo after photo to compare their jewelry or whatever? (And if you are 12 years old, I apologize. I'm not trying to make fun of a child.)

pinkcashmere23 said:

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said: Show me a candid pic of her wearing it that wasn't published on her IG or wasn't a promotional pic. Before or after his passing.

That photo was from a private collection and was never seen before Andy released it with her tribute to him. It was not a photo used for promotion and it has been said that outtakes from the shoot exist. Andy wore it for the People Pleaser video and was showing it off seemingly for effect.

sharpieheartz said:

sharpieheartz said:

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

You're missing the point here, Susu. Pink has already established that she wore it from 2012-2013. Watch the People Pleaser and RNRLA vids. But here's one photo Prince took that she never posted. I'm

No, I'm not missing the point and I asked for a pic that wasn't an IG pic made to look like something that could be over-analyzed. You have already done this. Prince DID NOT GIVE ANDY THAT RING. Get over it. You need a class in marketing and promotion and maybe then you can understand your idol, the arriviste a bit more. This shit is going back to the twilight zone of y'all stopping at nothing and I don't have time for your shit. Find a stadium and take several seats.

Again, I'm not here trying to spin anything. I'm just curious. I was alluding to a statement Pink made and I posted on behalf of what she was talking about. It raised my eyebrows just like many others. I'm not about to argue with a random on a public forum. Goodnight.

Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

You're missing the point here, Susu. Pink has already established that she wore it from 2012-2013. Watch the People Pleaser and RNRLA vids. But here's one photo Prince took that she never posted. I'm

No, I'm not missing the point and I asked for a pic that wasn't an IG pic made to look like something that could be over-analyzed. You have already done this. Prince DID NOT GIVE ANDY THAT RING. Get over it. You need a class in marketing and promotion and maybe then you can understand your idol, the arriviste a bit more. This shit is going back to the twilight zone of y'all stopping at nothing and I don't have time for your shit. Find a stadium and take several seats.

We know he didn't give her the ring.He was wearing it again at SXSW but he let her wear it for a while.What does it matter? It was 7 years ago.I have said that I appreciate the music that P&A created together as well as their onstage performances.I also have said that they were no longer together and Andy appeared to be in love with her boyfriend.How exactly is posting that an agenda when I'm basically saying that Andy had seemingly gotten over Prince?

sharpieheartz said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I don't know why, but this photo reminds me of a concert I went to with my son and he saw Prince with a woman with a natural fro that night (not performing) and said, "Is that Andy Allo?" It turns out that the lady friend that night was Esmeralda Spaulding...

disch said:

Pink, you don't need to respond to a post and include the same gigantic images (which we've all seen a bunch of times) in your replies. Just delete the photos.

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And seriously -- I'm not going to repeat this because I know there's no effect (there's no stopping you and the 2 other posters when it comes to Andy Allo; your stamina for posting about her has no apparant limit). But you sound like a 12 year old! Picking apart photo after photo to compare their jewelry or whatever? (And if you are 12 years old, I apologize. I'm not trying to make fun of a child.)

pinkcashmere23 said:

That photo was from a private collection and was never seen before Andy released it with her tribute to him. It was not a photo used for promotion and it has been said that outtakes from the shoot exist. Andy wore it for the People Pleaser video and was showing it off seemingly for effect.

I have no interest in picking apart jewelry nor debating about what woman Prince loved more.I was merely pointing out some details concerning a relationship that was seemingly long over.As for the photos,my computer is barely functioning at the moment and is doing good to type,let alone worry about deleting photos from posts.It seems to bother you that I like Andy and that I enjoyed their work relationship.I like several of the women that Prince worked with and dated and if you look in the Mayte and Mani threads,you will see that I have posted several comments in their favor as well.