OF4S, will the "Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread" be released or should I start a new one? Thanks in advance for your response.

*** MOD NOTE ***

Keep it all here

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Not to the public though he did say onstage after her performance at Chicago's HOB that he had a crush on her and he remarked during one of the shows at The United Center "Aww ain't she cute."There were several other comments made on stage in 2011.He apparently wanted it to be known that he at least found her attractive.

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Oh good other’s recall him saying that too. Isn’t that a public admission?

It sure sounds like an admission of romantic interest, to me, purplefam99.

purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Not to the public though he did say onstage after her performance at Chicago's HOB that he had a crush on her and he remarked during one of the shows at The United Center "Aww ain't she cute."There were several other comments made on stage in 2011.He apparently wanted it to be known that he at least found her attractive.

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Oh good other’s recall him saying that too. Isn’t that a public admission?

I was watching some clips from some of the shows in 2011 online last night and he said several things like that.After she sang The Look of Love in Budapest,Hungary,he shouted her name and before going into Take Me With You,he said,"Wherever she goes,I wanna go." At Ghent,after they performed People Pleaser,he announced her name and then said,"She's always in my hair." and then chuckled before going into the song.When I Lay My Hands On You at NSJ.He wasn't discreet about it.They were also very playful with each other onstage and that was nice to see.December 2011,Andy posted on her FB the night that he wore the shirt with her photo on it and said she asked him why he did it and she said that he replied "Cuz I Luv U." People were wondering if she had exposed his personal feelings for her or if they were just playing with the fans.Whatever the reason,it got a lot of attention.The posts were still on her Facebook recently.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Oh good other’s recall him saying that too. Isn’t that a public admission?

I was watching some clips from some of the shows in 2011 online last night and he said several things like that.After she sang The Look of Love in Budapest,Hungary,he shouted her name and before going into Take Me With You,he said,"Wherever she goes,I wanna go." At Ghent,after they performed People Pleaser,he announced her name and then said,"She's always in my hair." and then chuckled before going into the song.He wasn't discreet about it.They were also very playful with each other onstage and that was nice to see.December 2011,Andy posted on her FB the night that he wore the shirt with her photo on it and said she asked him why he did it and she said that he replied "Cuz I Luv U." People were wondering if she had exposed his personal feelings for her or if they were just playing with the fans.Whatever the reason,it got a lot of attention.The posts were still on her Facebook recently.

I think it might have been a bit of both: exposing feelings and playing with the fans. I'll bet that did expose quite a stir.

disch said:

I sincerely doubt that’s it. On those deleted threads the only people posting were you and pink. There were no real arguments about their romantic relationship (which to me seems indisputable. I’m also not one of these ostensibly adult women who’s overly invested in princes love life generally. Whoever he had relationships/sex with was his choice and has nothing to do with my fandom if his music.) - Your threads seems off kilter to me because they seem fake and appear to have ulterior motive such as some coordinated pr effort. For example you seemed to closely track how many views your thread was getting, which was unusual. It didnt matter how many people you were actually talking with (it was just one), just how many people were witnessing the discussion. That sounds like how a marketing person would think, not a standard fan.i mean look at how much you’ve posted just complaining that you’re restricted from posting about Andy Allo when you’ve likely posted thousands of times about her (in one of those deleted threads you posted hundreds of times in just a couple weeks). If what you were interested in is talking a about Andy with other fans, you’d find another place to do that. But that doesn’t sound like your goal. It sounds like your goal is generating lots of pages about her that other people will look at (ie generate visits and page views). - Posts get deleted here and people banned all the time. Most people recognize that they don’t own this site and stop whining about it publicly. They find other places where the rules are more to their liking. - And yes you’ll go crazy on me and tell me I’m sick etc etc for saying this, why an I jealous of Andy Allo or whatever. I stand by it. Your obsession and focus on volume and views, and the tone and tenor of your posts, smack to me like youreengaged in a deceptive formal marketing campaign. Which isn’t really what most fan sites are about. - FlyOnTheWall said:

No one seems to have any problem(s) with discussions about just Andy; however, when the topic is PRINCE and Andy, folks start losing their minds. At least five such threads that I started in the past two years have been totally deleted. Not just locked. ERASED. Mind you, the erasures only encourage more such threads in an effort to replace those removed.

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SNIP - OF4$

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I was watching some clips from some of the shows in 2011 online last night and he said several things like that.After she sang The Look of Love in Budapest,Hungary,he shouted her name and before going into Take Me With You,he said,"Wherever she goes,I wanna go." At Ghent,after they performed People Pleaser,he announced her name and then said,"She's always in my hair." and then chuckled before going into the song.He wasn't discreet about it.They were also very playful with each other onstage and that was nice to see.December 2011,Andy posted on her FB the night that he wore the shirt with her photo on it and said she asked him why he did it and she said that he replied "Cuz I Luv U." People were wondering if she had exposed his personal feelings for her or if they were just playing with the fans.Whatever the reason,it got a lot of attention.The posts were still on her Facebook recently.

I think it might have been a bit of both: exposing feelings and playing with the fans. I'll bet that did expose quite a stir.

Yes,the comments on her FB post were interesting.I think they did post and say things to cause a stir at times.She asked her FB followers what she should do after she posted his supposed reply to her and people were giving their opinions and advice.It was pretty amusing.

FlyOnTheWall said:

OF4S, will the "Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread" be released or should I start a new one? Thanks in advance for your response.

*** MOD NOTE ***

Keep it all here

What does "Keep it all here," mean? Do you mean the Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread" is gone...and another one is not allowed?

FlyOnTheWall said:

Mumio said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

No one seems to have any problem(s) with discussions about just Andy; however, when the topic is PRINCE and Andy, folks start losing their minds. At least five such threads that I started in the past two years have been totally deleted. Not just locked. ERASED. Mind you, the erasures only encourage more such threads in an effort to replace those removed.

Were they erased due to arguing and fighting going on? Because threads are hidden/deleted due to exactly that all the time around here. If they are too messy, they are gone.

There will always be dissent when people want to keep insisting there was a definite romantic relationship there, simply because it was never acknowledged by Prince as true. Nothing wrong with people wanting to make sure the truth stays out there, is there?

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Kim says Prince and Andy dated when she talked about why P grew out the afro: https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;t=988s (Kim Berry, Prince's hairstylist for over 25 years shares heartfelt memories). On AOA, P and AA do the duet "Time" which is very much suggestive of an intimate relationship. Andy said on instagram shortly after Prince died that Prince taught her about heartbreak. So I feel that the evidence is pretty clear that Andy was Prince's girlfriend for a period of time. Andy was a major collaborator/muse with Prince during 2011-2014. However, he also had other female collaborators/muses during this time, including Shelby J. (never his girlfriend), Damaris Lewis (never his girlfriend), Misty Copeland (never his girlfriend), Lala Escarzega (friend, unknown if she was his girlfriend), and Judith Hill (stated that she was his girlfriend). Until I hear confirmation from her, other members of the NPG, or Prince's inner circle that Andy was more than a girlfriend and collaborator/muse, I will believe that she was girlfriend and collaborator/muse. I feel that the reason the AA threads keep getting pulled are because of statements, such of the following, that make more of P and AA's relationship than what was actually there:

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Prince and Andy Allo ~ 2011-2014, Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/4...amp;pg=38:

FlyOnTheWall, Reply #1137 posted 12/10/16 11:27am: Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

There must be at least 4-5 active Mayte threads right now. And, remember, Prince divorced her and severed ALL ties almost two decades ago.

The number of threads about Mayte, or Manuela, or Vanity/Denise have nothing to do with Andy. This is not a contest. All of these women have a unique place in the Purple Universe. Some women are more prominent, others are more minor, but they each have their place and their role in his life.

206Michelle said:

Mumio said:

Were they erased due to arguing and fighting going on? Because threads are hidden/deleted due to exactly that all the time around here. If they are too messy, they are gone.

There will always be dissent when people want to keep insisting there was a definite romantic relationship there, simply because it was never acknowledged by Prince as true. Nothing wrong with people wanting to make sure the truth stays out there, is there?

[Edited 4/12/18 22:12pm]

Kim says Prince and Andy dated when she talked about why P grew out the afro: https://youtu.be/g_yRodhAg3M. On AOA, P and AA do the duet "Time" which is very much suggestive of an intimate relationship. Andy said on instagram shortly after Prince died that Prince taught her about heartbreak. So I feel that the evidence is pretty clear that Andy was Prince's girlfriend for a period of time. Andy was a major collaborator/muse with Prince during 2011-2014. However, he also had other female collaborators/muses during this time, including Shelby J. (never his girlfriend), Damaris Lewis (never his girlfriend), Misty Copeland (never his girlfriend), Lala Escarzega (friend, unknown if she was his girlfriend), and Judith Hill (stated that she was his girlfriend). Until I hear confirmation from her, other members of the NPG, or Prince's inner circle that Andy was more than a girlfriend and collaborator/muse, I will believe that she was girlfriend and collaborator/muse. I feel that the reason the AA threads keep getting pulled are because of statements, such of the following, that make more of P and AA's relationship than what was actually there:

.

Prince and Andy Allo ~ 2011-2014, Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/4...amp;pg=38:

FlyOnTheWall, Reply #1137 posted 12/10/16 11:27am: Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

[Edited 4/15/18 20:43pm]

The Youtube clip said 404 Not Found.Was it a new interview? Yes,from the way Prince's associates reply to Andy on social media,they seem to feel she was special at one time to Prince.I do feel that Lala dated him in 2009 and 10.She recently posted a photo on twitter of herself with Damaris at a Welcome 2 America show in NYC and said that P sang Gingerbread Man that night to her. There were rumors that Prince and Andy had gotten married in early 2012 but I think they originated here.Andy wore his pinky ring on her left ring finger in the videos for People Pleaser and R&R Love Affair causing some to think they had gotten married after the rumors.I think they may have done that as a little joke due to how Dr Funk replied to some questions about it on his site.He said "They aren't married but it made you talk right?"

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

There must be at least 4-5 active Mayte threads right now. And, remember, Prince divorced her and severed ALL ties almost two decades ago.

The number of threads about Mayte, or Manuela, or Vanity/Denise have nothing to do with Andy. This is not a contest. All of these women have a unique place in the Purple Universe. Some women are more prominent, others are more minor, but they each have their place and their role in his life.

I agree.I can appreciate each of them for what they brought to his life. Several ladies inspired him to write the beautiful love songs that he shared with us.

purplemist7777 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

What does "Keep it all here," mean? Do you mean the Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread" is gone...and another one is not allowed?

On second thought you seem to have an agenda. Maybe becoming AA number one Stan and monetizing it somehow for your own benefit? Why not just start your own FB page and you can post whatever you want without any argument from anyone? Some of your suppositions don’t make sense. For instance the “Valentines Day” dinner was actually on February 12 and they were there to see Ana Moura performing. And the pic of Prince “carrying AA coat”...looks to me like he is carrying 2 coats...AA and Ana. Nothing but a friendly dinner between friends.

Perhaps you should stop trying to cast aspersions on me and actually take time to read my posts. As they say, "Reading is fundamental."

At any rate, the Dakota Valentine's Day dinner was on February 14 for a Steeles show. There were three couples reportedly all alone in the balcony of the famed jazz club: Mr. and Mrs. Bobby Z, Mr. and Mrs. Larry Graham and, according to the Star Tribune, "Prince and his girlfriend."

BBGun Billy's photos are during and after Ana Moura's show two days earlier, February 12. You can tell from his hashtags that he knew that Prince and Andy were a couple. It seems that it was an open secret in MLPS.

And, I'm not even going to dignify your amazing assertion in which you are claiming to know whose coats Prince was carrying. I think I'll take the word of the photographer who was actually at the Dakota. Man. The lengths some of you will go to just to try to deny this relationship...and then you have the nerve to say that I have an agenda. That is beyond rich.

206Michelle said:

Mumio said:

Were they erased due to arguing and fighting going on? Because threads are hidden/deleted due to exactly that all the time around here. If they are too messy, they are gone.

There will always be dissent when people want to keep insisting there was a definite romantic relationship there, simply because it was never acknowledged by Prince as true. Nothing wrong with people wanting to make sure the truth stays out there, is there?

[Edited 4/12/18 22:12pm]

Kim says Prince and Andy dated when she talked about why P grew out the afro: https://youtu.be/g_yRodhAg3M. On AOA, P and AA do the duet "Time" which is very much suggestive of an intimate relationship. Andy said on instagram shortly after Prince died that Prince taught her about heartbreak. So I feel that the evidence is pretty clear that Andy was Prince's girlfriend for a period of time. Andy was a major collaborator/muse with Prince during 2011-2014. However, he also had other female collaborators/muses during this time, including Shelby J. (never his girlfriend), Damaris Lewis (never his girlfriend), Misty Copeland (never his girlfriend), Lala Escarzega (friend, unknown if she was his girlfriend), and Judith Hill (stated that she was his girlfriend). Until I hear confirmation from her, other members of the NPG, or Prince's inner circle that Andy was more than a girlfriend and collaborator/muse, I will believe that she was girlfriend and collaborator/muse. I feel that the reason the AA threads keep getting pulled are because of statements, such of the following, that make more of P and AA's relationship than what was actually there:

.

Prince and Andy Allo ~ 2011-2014, Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/4...amp;pg=38:

FlyOnTheWall, Reply #1137 posted 12/10/16 11:27am: Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

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206Michelle, please tell me what I said in the above quote that is not true. There was at least one actual thread here on the Org claiming that Prince had secretly wed Andy Allo, "Prince Married?"

http://prince.org/msg/7/379195

There was also the thread, "Is Prince shackin up with Andy."

http://prince.org/msg/5/366078?pr


So, I simply wrote what people were saying at the time. And, Prince's sexually charged lyrics on Art Official Age and HitnRun Phase 2 did cause quite a stir. Even Andrea Swensson, longtime MLPS journalist who often wrote about Prince in The Current, said in the UK documentary how struck she was that he was "singing about sex again" on those final albums.

Lastly, Michelle, I must say that I am beyond shocked at the way you have been coming at me about being a Prince/Andy enthusiast. You always seemed like such a decent person. And for you to try to justify the erasure of threads here on the Org about Prince and Andy with half-baked accusations against me is just jaw-dropping.

Why not just stick to your posts about Prince still being in love with Mayte, even though all the evidence makes it clear that, once Prince's divorce to Mayte was final, he severed all ties? Further, do you fact-check all the wild claims on those Mayte threads on which you seem to live? And, yes, I read lots of them, but I usually don't comment because I'm not trying to rain on folks' parades. I'm just saying, if non-accuracy and/or speculation was actually the basis for erasing threads on the Org, then ALL of the myriad "Prince was still in love with Mayte threads," on which you are a regular, would have also been pulled.

Whatever the case, I would just ask that you stay in your lane and back up off me. Peace.

[Edited 4/15/18 22:48pm]

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

There must be at least 4-5 active Mayte threads right now. And, remember, Prince divorced her and severed ALL ties almost two decades ago.

The number of threads about Mayte, or Manuela, or Vanity/Denise have nothing to do with Andy. This is not a contest. All of these women have a unique place in the Purple Universe. Some women are more prominent, others are more minor, but they each have their place and their role in his life.

Nobody said that it was a contest. We're just pointing out disparate treatment here on the Org. If there is no limit placed on the number of threads about other love interests or proteges, then why should there be a limit placed on Andy Allo threads? What part of that don't you understand?

And, this notion that all posts about Andy should be on one thread is outrageous. As I told someone earlier, this idea is tantamount to the racist economic redlining practiced by bankers and realtors that only allows Black people to buy homes or rent in certain underdeveloped neighborhoods, usually resulting in ghettos.

pinkcashmere23 said:

206Michelle said:

Kim says Prince and Andy dated when she talked about why P grew out the afro: https://youtu.be/g_yRodhAg3M. On AOA, P and AA do the duet "Time" which is very much suggestive of an intimate relationship. Andy said on instagram shortly after Prince died that Prince taught her about heartbreak. So I feel that the evidence is pretty clear that Andy was Prince's girlfriend for a period of time. Andy was a major collaborator/muse with Prince during 2011-2014. However, he also had other female collaborators/muses during this time, including Shelby J. (never his girlfriend), Damaris Lewis (never his girlfriend), Misty Copeland (never his girlfriend), Lala Escarzega (friend, unknown if she was his girlfriend), and Judith Hill (stated that she was his girlfriend). Until I hear confirmation from her, other members of the NPG, or Prince's inner circle that Andy was more than a girlfriend and collaborator/muse, I will believe that she was girlfriend and collaborator/muse. I feel that the reason the AA threads keep getting pulled are because of statements, such of the following, that make more of P and AA's relationship than what was actually there:

.

Prince and Andy Allo ~ 2011-2014, Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/4...amp;pg=38:

FlyOnTheWall, Reply #1137 posted 12/10/16 11:27am: Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

[Edited 4/15/18 20:43pm]

The Youtube clip said 404 Not Found.Was it a new interview? Yes,from the way Prince's associates reply to Andy on social media,they seem to feel she was special at one time to Prince.I do feel that Lala dated him in 2009 and 10.She recently posted a photo on twitter of herself with Damaris at a Welcome 2 America show in NYC and said that P sang Gingerbread Man that night to her. There were rumors that Prince and Andy had gotten married in early 2012 but I think they originated here.Andy wore his pinky ring on her left ring finger in the videos for People Pleaser and R&R Love Affair causing some to think they had gotten married after the rumors.I think they may have done that as a little joke due to how Dr Funk replied to some questions about it on his site.He said "They aren't married but it made you talk right?"

I cut and pasted the "share" link. Try this link, the actual url: https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;t=988s

The title of the video is: Kim Berry, Prince's hairstylist for over 25 years shares heartfelt memories.

[Edited 4/16/18 21:35pm]

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

The Youtube clip said 404 Not Found.Was it a new interview? Yes,from the way Prince's associates reply to Andy on social media,they seem to feel she was special at one time to Prince.I do feel that Lala dated him in 2009 and 10.She recently posted a photo on twitter of herself with Damaris at a Welcome 2 America show in NYC and said that P sang Gingerbread Man that night to her. There were rumors that Prince and Andy had gotten married in early 2012 but I think they originated here.Andy wore his pinky ring on her left ring finger in the videos for People Pleaser and R&R Love Affair causing some to think they had gotten married after the rumors.I think they may have done that as a little joke due to how Dr Funk replied to some questions about it on his site.He said "They aren't married but it made you talk right?"

I cut and pasted the "share" link. Try this link, the actual url: https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;t=988s

The title of the video is: Kim Berry, Prince's hairstylist for over 25 years shares heartfelt memories.

[Edited 4/16/18 21:35pm]

Thank you! That was a very good interview! Here's a clip from another one where she spoke a bit more about Andy www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQRBsNx6IKM

[Edited 4/17/18 6:03am]

I think we need a proper answer as to whether the org's cruelty towards Andy Allo is more comparable to The Holocaust or to racist economic redlining practiced by bankers and realtors that only allows Black people to buy homes or rent in certain underdeveloped neighborhoods, usually resulting in ghettos.

pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

The number of threads about Mayte, or Manuela, or Vanity/Denise have nothing to do with Andy. This is not a contest. All of these women have a unique place in the Purple Universe. Some women are more prominent, others are more minor, but they each have their place and their role in his life.

Nobody said that it was a contest. We're just pointing out disparate treatment here on the Org. If there is no limit placed on the number of threads about other love interests or proteges, then why should there be a limit placed on Andy Allo threads? What part of that don't you understand?

And, this notion that all posts about Andy should be on one thread is outrageous. As I told someone earlier, this idea is tantamount to the racist economic redlining practiced by bankers and realtors that only allows Black people to buy homes or rent in certain underdeveloped neighborhoods, usually resulting in ghettos.

Well how about you take a few days off from the org to think.
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I(OF4$) NEVER NEVER said, that I was locking all Andy Allo threads in one.
ALL I SAID I WAS GOING TO LIST ALL PAST/CURRENT THREADS SO ALL OF THOSE BITCHING

THAT WE NEVER ALLOW ANDY ALLO THREADS, TO SEE JUST HOW MANY ANDY ALLO THREADS
HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE

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NOT ONE TIME DID I SAY ALL ANDY ALLO THREADS WERE GOING TO BE LOCKED INTO ONE THREAD
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I THINK YOUR CONSPIRATORY (INSIDEOUS) NOTION IS OUTRAGEOUS!! AND AS MUCH AS I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, YOU CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS CRAZY NOTION THAT SOMEONE IS CONSPIRARYING AGAINGST ANYTHING ANDY ALLO/PRINCE.
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I'm a Multiracial and Andy Allo is my people BIRACIAL, so I support her.
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TO COMPARE THIS(WHICH YOU GOT WRONG) TO RACISM INFURIATES ME!!

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She seemed really excited about the shows last month when she made a short video that they posted on the NC2P FB and IG and she reposted their post about two of the shows.I believe she was to perform at two.Since she posted the new photo of her on set in Hollywood,she most likely had auditioned for a role before she left for her shows in Europe and was contacted while over there that she had gotten the part,causing her to make the decision to cancel her performances for NC2P.It must have happened right before the rehearsals in Minneapolis because Shelby was announcing that she would be there during her FB Live at the end of March.NC2P also posted the photo of she and Prince from R&R Love Affair on FB and said that she was coming.I guess Andy decided that accepting the acting job would be the better move for her career understandably.She probably would have continued with the shows as planned had she not gotten the part.Andy just tweeted an article about Prince by Peter Cook so she's not trying to disassociate herself from him.She also tweeted recently that she was missing him.

[Edited 4/14/18 7:59am]

“Understandably”? Yes, I understand it very well. It’s called putting myself before everyone else. No matter. Prince knew this about her.

I'm sure that Prince realized that she was ambitious.What he said in the Dr Funk interview and some of his song lyrics are suggestive of that.He also kind of seemed to allude to that during a P&M performance of R&R LA,saying "Yeah,she's one of those."Maybe that was one of the reasons they settled on friendship.I suppose she auditioned for the role before she left and she decided to accept it, come back to L.A. and go to work.I saw that she also sang backup for LP during her set at Coachella so she seems to be selective with the projects she does.She said in her statement that she couldn't "move things around"in her schedule so maybe she was going to try to do both the acting project and NC2P and realized that it wouldn't be possible.She obviously wants a successful acting career and seemingly made the best choice for that.

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[Edited 4/17/18 9:25am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Kim says Prince and Andy dated when she talked about why P grew out the afro: https://youtu.be/g_yRodhAg3M. On AOA, P and AA do the duet "Time" which is very much suggestive of an intimate relationship. Andy said on instagram shortly after Prince died that Prince taught her about heartbreak. So I feel that the evidence is pretty clear that Andy was Prince's girlfriend for a period of time. Andy was a major collaborator/muse with Prince during 2011-2014. However, he also had other female collaborators/muses during this time, including Shelby J. (never his girlfriend), Damaris Lewis (never his girlfriend), Misty Copeland (never his girlfriend), Lala Escarzega (friend, unknown if she was his girlfriend), and Judith Hill (stated that she was his girlfriend). Until I hear confirmation from her, other members of the NPG, or Prince's inner circle that Andy was more than a girlfriend and collaborator/muse, I will believe that she was girlfriend and collaborator/muse. I feel that the reason the AA threads keep getting pulled are because of statements, such of the following, that make more of P and AA's relationship than what was actually there:

.

Prince and Andy Allo ~ 2011-2014, Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/4...amp;pg=38:

FlyOnTheWall, Reply #1137 posted 12/10/16 11:27am: Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

[Edited 4/15/18 20:43pm]

206Michelle, please tell me what I said in the above quote that is not true. There was at least one actual thread here on the Org claiming that Prince had secretly wed Andy Allo, "Prince Married?"

http://prince.org/msg/7/379195

There was also the thread, "Is Prince shackin up with Andy."

http://prince.org/msg/5/366078?pr


So, I simply wrote what people were saying at the time. And, Prince's sexually charged lyrics on Art Official Age and HitnRun Phase 2 did cause quite a stir. Even Andrea Swensson, longtime MLPS journalist who often wrote about Prince in The Current, said in the UK documentary how struck she was that he was "singing about sex again" on those final albums.

Lastly, Michelle, I must say that I am beyond shocked at the way you have been coming at me about being a Prince/Andy enthusiast. You always seemed like such a decent person. And for you to try to justify the erasure of threads here on the Org about Prince and Andy with half-baked accusations against me is just jaw-dropping.

Why not just stick to your posts about Prince still being in love with Mayte, even though all the evidence makes it clear that, once Prince's divorce to Mayte was final, he severed all ties? Further, do you fact-check all the wild claims on those Mayte threads on which you seem to live? And, yes, I read lots of them, but I usually don't comment because I'm not trying to rain on folks' parades. I'm just saying, if non-accuracy and/or speculation was actually the basis for erasing threads on the Org, then ALL of the myriad "Prince was still in love with Mayte threads," on which you are a regular, would have also been pulled.

Whatever the case, I would just ask that you stay in your lane and back up off me. Peace.

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Some of the songs on AOA and Phase 2 did have some sexually suggestive lyrics but I think that element was always present on his albums and never really went away if you listen.What he said at the end of Mellow on Rainbow Children is practically explicit.Of course he was married to Mani at the time so I assume he was singing about his wife.Bria's album was also very sexual, particularly their duet on Elixer.I remember that really caused a stir due to them being unwed JW's.

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She seemed really excited about the shows last month when she made a short video that they posted on the NC2P FB and IG and she reposted their post about two of the shows.I believe she was to perform at two.Since she posted the new photo of her on set in Hollywood,she most likely had auditioned for a role before she left for her shows in Europe and was contacted while over there that she had gotten the part,causing her to make the decision to cancel her performances for NC2P.It must have happened right before the rehearsals in Minneapolis because Shelby was announcing that she would be there during her FB Live at the end of March.NC2P also posted the photo of she and Prince from R&R Love Affair on FB and said that she was coming.I guess Andy decided that accepting the acting job would be the better move for her career understandably.She probably would have continued with the shows as planned had she not gotten the part.Andy just tweeted an article about Prince by Peter Cook so she's not trying to disassociate herself from him.She also tweeted recently that she was missing him.

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“Understandably”? Yes, I understand it very well. It’s called putting myself before everyone else. No matter. Prince knew this about her.

I'm sure that Prince realized that she was ambitious.What he said in the Dr Funk interview and some of his song lyrics are suggestive of that.He also kind of seemed to allude to that during a P&M performance of R&R LA,saying "Yeah,she's one of those."Maybe that was one of the reasons they settled on friendship.I suppose she auditioned for the role before she left and she decided to accept it, come back to L.A. and go to work.I saw that she also sang backup for LP during her set at Coachella so she seems to be selective with the projects she does.She said in her statement that she couldn't "move things around"in her schedule so maybe she was going to try to do both the acting project and NC2P and realized that it wouldn't be possible.She obviously wants a successful acting career and seemingly made the best choice for that.

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anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I'm sure that Prince realized that she was ambitious.What he said in the Dr Funk interview and some of his song lyrics are suggestive of that.He also kind of seemed to allude to that during a P&M performance of R&R LA,saying "Yeah,she's one of those."Maybe that was one of the reasons they settled on friendship.I suppose she auditioned for the role before she left and she decided to accept it, come back to L.A. and go to work.I saw that she also sang backup for LP during her set at Coachella so she seems to be selective with the projects she does.She said in her statement that she couldn't "move things around"in her schedule so maybe she was going to try to do both the acting project and NC2P and realized that it wouldn't be possible.She obviously wants a successful acting career and seemingly made the best choice for that.

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Oooooooooh. I wish I could say something about what was going on in his life at the time. But I can’t. [Edited 4/17/18 10:59am]

During the time of the writing of the songs, the interview with Dr Funk or the P&M shows? Andy was gone by the time the interview took place though Prince was talking about releasing Superconductor Reloaded.I believe they were friends by the time of the P&M shows and Andy was seemingly in love with someone else.Whatever occured between them,they seemed to move past it and become friends again.They were still showing support for each other so there seemed to be no hard feelings.

pinkcashmere23 said:

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

During the time of the writing of the songs, the interview with Dr Funk or the P&M shows? Andy was gone by the time the interview took place though Prince was talking about releasing Superconductor Reloaded.I believe they were friends by the time of the P&M shows and Andy was seemingly in love with someone else.Whatever occured between them,they seemed to move past it and become friends again.They were still showing support for each other so there seemed to be no hard feelings.

I have a much better understanding of our man now, and it is TOO MUCH FUN watching you and Fly guess, for me to utter a word. Plus, it’s private.

Understand. I am not trying to guess.I just asked which incident you were referring to.As I have said before,I did not know Prince personally nor Andy.I only go by what was shown publicly.I did notice that Prince was tweeting quite a lot about her in spring and summer of 2014 after they were last seen together at Liv's show,appearing to be a couple. After that he tweeted a few articles about Andy,Youtube videos,links to songs,about her shows in Japan as well as the Youtube video of her photo shoot for Nouveau Magazine. After Liv's show it looked like they had parted ways for good but he still showed his support for her through the year as well as all of 2015.He seemed to still have some fondness for her.Andy showed support for AOA,PE and Oui Can Luv.She also tweeted in January 2016 that 1000 X's & O's was "good music" and P responded with the dog photo.In March 2016 she alluded on twitter to being in love so she seemed to have moved on.Whatever the case,they appeared to be friendly from the spring of 2014 on.Some of the fans were also hoping that they would reunite to sing a few of their songs together since they both had tours scheduled in Europe for the same time in November 2015.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Understand. I am not trying to guess.I just asked which incident you were referring to.As I have said before,I did not know Prince personally nor Andy.I only go by what was shown publicly.I did notice that Prince was tweeting quite a lot about her in spring and summer of 2014 after they were last seen together at Liv's show,appearing to be a couple. After that he tweeted a few articles about Andy,Youtube videos,links to songs,about her shows in Japan as well as the Youtube video of her photo shoot for Nouveau Magazine. After Liv's show it looked like they had parted ways for good but he still showed his support for her through the year as well as all of 2015.He seemed to still have some fondness for her.Andy showed support for AOA,PE and Oui Can Luv.She also tweeted in January 2016 that 1000 X's & O's was "good music" and P responded with the dog photo.In March 2016 she alluded on twitter to being in love so she seemed to have moved on.Whatever the case,they appeared to be friendly from the spring of 2014 on.Some of the fans were also hoping that they would reunite to sing a few of their songs together since they both had tours scheduled in Europe for the same time in November 2015.

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Bye, Pink.

I was surprised at the amount of tweets that he made concerning Andy in 2014 after they were last seen together.The number in 2015 as well.It made many wonder if they were planning to work together again.Andy tweeted in May 2016 that there was still so much more to do so they may have been according to that.I would have liked to have seen it happen since I do love the duets they wrote and performed together.I also liked their voices together.With Andy singing several of the songs from OCL during her second Youtube livestream show Dec.2015 and Prince's promotion of it,they may have eventually performed them live.Someone asked Andy in a chat earlier that year if there was a chance they would ever perform their duets live and she replied that she was excited to see where their musical journeys would take them and that she hoped one day they would.

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