disch said:

Never denied it. Have said over and over that they had a romance. I’m just not personally invested in it. And judging by the number of other people who actually post on the subject of their romance,few people here are all that invested either. - Now run along and dream up new ways that their romance is like mass genocide. FlyOnTheWall said:

I think the better question is this: Why are you so hell-bent on denying their relationship. Such denials of established facts in this forum only fuel further discussion.

Your constant presence on these threads belies your claim that you're not "personally invested" in this topic.

disch said:

12 million murdered people is nothing like prince and Andy’s relationship. The “irrefutable evidence” of both is not the same. (12 million dead bodies vs coy looks on stage.) - Yes I thought you were disingenuous before (a marketer pretending to be a regular fan). Now I can see there’s something else truly wrong with you. FlyOnTheWall said:

I never had you to lose. Your position is clearly immutable. What I am comparing is historical examples of people denying the obvious. And, it is obvious that Prince and Andy were dating. Make of that what you will.

I knew someone like you would try to make a big deal of my analogy. If you can't see that I'm comparing the denials and NOT the horrendous historical events of the Holocaust, it's because you don't want to...just like many don't want to see that Prince and Andy were in love, so they just deny, deny, deny.

And, for the record, Prince is a historical figure...and his relationships will be examined and discussed for years to come.

Mumio said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I saw that someone made a few threads dedicated to Prince and Andy in 2011.I remember there were some dedicated to Prince and Misty in 2010 and 11 as well.Latin's from 2016 titled Prince and Andy ~2011-2014~has some good interviews,videos and photos.It is a nice review of their professional relationship and their musical collaborations.

I agree and no one has issues with this type of commentary that I'm aware of because it's presented as it was.

Yes.It ran for a while too,I see.What OF4S suggested about a thread for Andy updates might also be a good idea for those of us that want to keep up.There's really no designated place to do that at the moment.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

I sincerely doubt that’s it. On those deleted threads the only people posting were you and pink. There were no real arguments about their romantic relationship (which to me seems indisputable. I’m also not one of these ostensibly adult women who’s overly invested in princes love life generally. Whoever he had relationships/sex with was his choice and has nothing to do with my fandom if his music.) - Your threads seems off kilter to me because they seem fake and appear to have ulterior motive such as some coordinated pr effort. For example you seemed to closely track how many views your thread was getting, which was unusual. It didnt matter how many people you were actually talking with (it was just one), just how many people were witnessing the discussion. That sounds like how a marketing person would think, not a standard fan.i mean look at how much you’ve posted just complaining that you’re restricted from posting about Andy Allo when you’ve likely posted thousands of times about her (in one of those deleted threads you posted hundreds of times in just a couple weeks). If what you were interested in is talking a about Andy with other fans, you’d find another place to do that. But that doesn’t sound like your goal. It sounds like your goal is generating lots of pages about her that other people will look at (ie generate visits and page views). - Posts get deleted here and people banned all the time. Most people recognize that they don’t own this site and stop whining about it publicly. They find other places where the rules are more to their liking. - And yes you’ll go crazy on me and tell me I’m sick etc etc for saying this, why an I jealous of Andy Allo or whatever. I stand by it. Your obsession and focus on volume and views, and the tone and tenor of your posts, smack to me like youreengaged in a deceptive formal marketing campaign. Which isn’t really what most fan sites are about. - FlyOnTheWall said:

No one seems to have any problem(s) with discussions about just Andy; however, when the topic is PRINCE and Andy, folks start losing their minds. At least five such threads that I started in the past two years have been totally deleted. Not just locked. ERASED. Mind you, the erasures only encourage more such threads in an effort to replace those removed.

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On the last thread a few others were posting photos and weighing in as well.It wasn't only the two of us.There was about four-five of us that were actively posting.It didn't garner the attention of as many as Latin's first thread that had several posting in it but there were a few of us discussing some new details that came up.We answered some questions that some new to Andy had as well about her family and about a few other topics.We mainly posted interviews and articles concerning their work relationship.There are a few of us here who like Andy and appreciate the music that she and Prince created and wanted to discuss that.She is such a strong presence on AOA and Phase 2 and some of us have noted that and appreciate that she inspired his creativity during their time together.

disch said:

Sorry someone denying the holocaust is absolutely nothing like someone “denying” prince and Andy’s romance. Nothing. It’s incredibly offensive to continue to insist there’s some parallel (and it’s not just “someone like me” who is repulsed by that; I’m not going to even ask you what you mean by that). - And my investment has nothing to do with their romance. It had to do with the fact that you post under false pretenses (ie it’s clear you’re trying to execute a guerilla marketing campaign) and in the threads that you complain about incrsssntly were pulled, you were clearly engaged in timed “bumping” which is very frowned upon here. Frankly you aren’t good enough at what you’re trying to pull off. - Once again: on those pulled threads there was virtually no argument about their romance because the only people posting anything (about their romance or otherwise) were you and pink. That points not to denial but general lack of strong interest. - If what you want to do is talk about their romance with other like minded folks, why not find another site (there are plenty) with those like minded folks (since it looks like they’re not here)? But clearly a discussion with others who are stongly interested in their romance is not your goal. FlyOnTheWall said:

I knew someone like you would try to make a big deal of my analogy. If you can't see that I'm comparing the denials and NOT the horrendous historical events of the Holocaust, it's because you don't want to...just like many don't want to see that Prince and Andy were in love, so they just deny, deny, deny.

And, for the record, Prince is a historical figure...and his relationships will be examined and discussed for years to come.

[Edited 4/13/18 6:49am]

Denial is denial, OF4S.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Mumio said:

I agree and no one has issues with this type of commentary that I'm aware of because it's presented as it was.

Yes.It ran for a while too,I see.What OF4S suggested about a thread for Andy updates might also be a good idea for those of us that want to keep up.There's really no designated place to do that at the moment.

There's no designated place for Mayte updates...or Manuela updates...or Vanity updates. There is nothing wrong with having multiple threads about Andy. This is a discussion forum. One would think that various interesting threads about one of Hollywood's hottest up-and-coming stars–who just happens to be a Prince protege and love interest–would be a good thing.

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes.It ran for a while too,I see.What OF4S suggested about a thread for Andy updates might also be a good idea for those of us that want to keep up.There's really no designated place to do that at the moment.

There's no designated place for Mayte updates...or Manuela updates...or Vanity updates. There is nothing wrong with having multiple threads about Andy. This is a discussion forum. One would think that various interesting threads about one of Hollywood's hottest up-and-coming stars–who just happens to be a Prince protege and love interest–would be a good thing.

That's true but there are threads open about them.This is the only one concerning Andy at the moment.Latin's latest interview thread appears to be gone after I posted her latest IG photo of her on set in Hollywood.

There must be at least 4-5 active Mayte threads right now. And, remember, Prince divorced her and severed ALL ties almost two decades ago.

FlyOnTheWall said:

There must be at least 4-5 active Mayte threads right now. And, remember, Prince divorced her and severed ALL ties almost two decades ago.

True.The only threads open about Andy other than this one is the one concerning purchasing Superconductor on Amazon and Latin's about the video filmed last year while in D.C with Morgan James.

Mumio said:

Did Prince himself confirm the relationship?

Not to the public though he did say onstage after her performance at Chicago's HOB that he had a crush on her and he remarked during one of the shows at The United Center "Aww ain't she cute."There were several other comments made on stage in 2011.He apparently wanted it to be known that he at least found her attractive.

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Great thread....so many links!

I liked her influence on Prince. He wrote some nice songs during his time with her and looked happy most of the time. If she hadn´t been part of the band people here would probably have more positive things to say about her. I like her raspy voice and her version of We Can Funk....wish they had adapted the lyrics a bit more so that they make more sense when sung by a lady.

I also like the song she did with House musician Miguel Migs. (This Feeling). Really cool song.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Mumio said:

Did Prince himself confirm the relationship?

Not to the public though he did say onstage after her performance at Chicago's HOB that he had a crush on her and he remarked during one of the shows at The United Center "Aww ain't she cute."There were several other comments made on stage in 2011.He apparently wanted it to be known that he at least found her attractive.

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Thank you pinkcashmere23. She is a very attractive woman and I can certainly see that he would have thought so

FlyOnTheWall said:

Mumio said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Not to the public though he did say onstage after her performance at Chicago's HOB that he had a crush on her and he remarked during one of the shows at The United Center "Aww ain't she cute."There were several other comments made on stage in 2011.He apparently wanted it to be known that he at least found her attractive.

[Edited 4/13/18 8:32am]

Thank you pinkcashmere23. She is a very attractive woman and I can certainly see that he would have thought so

You're welcome. I agree. She was very pretty back then and she's grown into a lovely young woman.

purplemist7777 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think this list is confirmation that Andy is VERY popular. One would think that her threads probably drive up traffic on the Org. Unfortunately, most of the threads I started have been removed. Hence, they are not even listed. Not even the most recent "Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread," which is linked below. It's as though they never happened.


http://prince.org/msg/5/452839

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Did it ever occur to you that perhaps Andy, her family or her new Management is getting these threads pulled? That they don’t want obsessive fans spinning this “Love” story as she moves full time to acting? And how about any NEW love interest Google searching and these threads come up? Let Andy move on and have a successful acting career.

Yes,the possibility has been discussed. Andy seems very proud of her work with Prince and has spoken fondly about their time together in Facebook Q&A's,where she shared some details of their personal relationship.She posts photos of them together periodically on social media so while she doesn't focus on it daily,she does share every now and then.The black and white photo of them together along with her open letter to him that she posted in April of 2016 on FB and IG,fueled much of the speculation about them as a couple.She said that they "shared a great love"and that he taught her about "heartbreak."in her post.Some thought that they were still together because of it and her photo up at PP.Prince was her only love interest known to the public.Out of curiosity,I clicked on a search suggestion on Bing titled Andy Allo boyfriend and only photos of her with him came up.

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If the black and white photo you are talking about is the one I am thinking of, it was a nice pic of them both.

Were you aware she pulled out of the NC2P tour?

Mumio said:

If the black and white photo you are talking about is the one I am thinking of, it was a nice pic of them both.

Were you aware she pulled out of the NC2P tour?

Yes,I like that photo as well and I appreciated that she shared it.Yes,I am aware that she pulled out of the tour.She posted a new photo on the Paramount lot in Hollywood so I assume that she was cast in another movie or TV show and that was the reason.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Sorry someone denying the holocaust is absolutely nothing like someone “denying” prince and Andy’s romance. Nothing. It’s incredibly offensive to continue to insist there’s some parallel (and it’s not just “someone like me” who is repulsed by that; I’m not going to even ask you what you mean by that). - And my investment has nothing to do with their romance. It had to do with the fact that you post under false pretenses (ie it’s clear you’re trying to execute a guerilla marketing campaign) and in the threads that you complain about incrsssntly were pulled, you were clearly engaged in timed “bumping” which is very frowned upon here. Frankly you aren’t good enough at what you’re trying to pull off. - Once again: on those pulled threads there was virtually no argument about their romance because the only people posting anything (about their romance or otherwise) were you and pink. That points not to denial but general lack of strong interest. - If what you want to do is talk about their romance with other like minded folks, why not find another site (there are plenty) with those like minded folks (since it looks like they’re not here)? But clearly a discussion with others who are stongly interested in their romance is not your goal. FlyOnTheWall said: [Edited 4/13/18 6:49am]

Denial is denial, OF4S.

why did you refer to me?

Please to post anywhere else until you answer this

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Denial is denial, OF4S.

why did you refer to me?

Please to post anywhere else until you answer this

OH. MY. GOODNESS. I'm so sorry. I had been reading your and disch's posts and responding very quickly. In my haste, I got the names mixed up. I apologize for the confusion.

purplemist7777 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think this list is confirmation that Andy is VERY popular. One would think that her threads probably drive up traffic on the Org. Unfortunately, most of the threads I started have been removed. Hence, they are not even listed. Not even the most recent "Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread," which is linked below. It's as though they never happened.


http://prince.org/msg/5/452839

[Edited 4/12/18 18:33pm]

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps Andy, her family or her new Management is getting these threads pulled? That they don’t want obsessive fans spinning this “Love” story as she moves full time to acting? And how about any NEW love interest Google searching and these threads come up? Let Andy move on and have a successful acting career.

No, that never occurred to me. Not once. I mean, why would Andy, her family, or her management want to try to squash discussion of her relationship with Prince? As Andy's career takes off, she is becoming more famous by the day. I'm sure they could do without the haters, but I guess that's par for the course.

KoolEaze said:

Great thread....so many links!

I liked her influence on Prince. He wrote some nice songs during his time with her and looked happy most of the time. If she hadn´t been part of the band people here would probably have more positive things to say about her. I like her raspy voice and her version of We Can Funk....wish they had adapted the lyrics a bit more so that they make more sense when sung by a lady.

I also like the song she did with House musician Miguel Migs. (This Feeling). Really cool song.

FlyOnTheWall said:

KoolEaze said:

Great thread....so many links!

I liked her influence on Prince. He wrote some nice songs during his time with her and looked happy most of the time. If she hadn´t been part of the band people here would probably have more positive things to say about her. I like her raspy voice and her version of We Can Funk....wish they had adapted the lyrics a bit more so that they make more sense when sung by a lady.

I also like the song she did with House musician Miguel Migs. (This Feeling). Really cool song.

I like This Feeling with Miguel Migs too.She shot a music video for it in 2016 but it never came out.

Interesting that Andy seems done with the Prince tribe. She cancelled her appearance at the Prince tribute in Australia, is travelling in Europe and says she wants to focus on her acting career.

purplethunder3121 said:

Interesting that Andy seems done with the Prince tribe. She cancelled her appearance at the Prince tribute in Australia, is travelling in Europe and says she wants to focus on her acting career.

As she said in her statement, I think she wants to focus on acting. That's not new. Even in "Rocknroll Loveaffair," Prince wrote, "She left her past and those lilly white fences and headed out to Hollywood in search of her soul. But she had to pay the toll (yes she did)." Later in the song, he wrote, "She wanted to see her name appear on the big screen. He just wanted to hear her scream his name." So, even there, P was telling a story that included differing priorities between the two of them...I mean, between a man and a woman who meet and fall in love.

Plus, I don't think Andy would ever say it publicly, but IMHO, I believe that everything is still too raw for her to return to the thick of the "Prince tribe." I think she loves them all dearly, but she has to do what is best for Andy and her spirit...and right now, I don't believe that involves Minneapolis...or touring with the NPG.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I like This Feeling with Miguel Migs too.She shot a music video for it in 2016 but it never came out.

Wow, I didn´t know that. I really love love LOVE that song. Now I need to find the video. It must be somewhere on the internet, even if it wasn´t released.

Thanks for the info.

Edit: Nah, can´t find it anywhere.

Do you know why it wasn´t released ?

[Edited 4/14/18 6:01am]

KoolEaze said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I like This Feeling with Miguel Migs too.She shot a music video for it in 2016 but it never came out.

Wow, I didn´t know that. I really love love LOVE that song. Now I need to find the video. It must be somewhere on the internet, even if it wasn´t released.

Thanks for the info.

Edit: Nah, can´t find it anywhere.

Do you know why it wasn´t released ?

[Edited 4/14/18 6:01am]

Andy posted about it on FB and then she never said any more about it. She and Miguel also posted photos taken while on set and she still has them on her FB and IG.The video was filmed summer of 2016.

FlyOnTheWall said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Interesting that Andy seems done with the Prince tribe. She cancelled her appearance at the Prince tribute in Australia, is travelling in Europe and says she wants to focus on her acting career.

As she said in her statement, I think she wants to focus on acting. That's not new. Even in "Rocknroll Loveaffair," Prince wrote, "She left her past and those lilly white fences and headed out to Hollywood in search of her soul. But she had to pay the toll (yes she did)." Later in the song, he wrote, "She wanted to see her name appear on the big screen. He just wanted to hear her scream his name." So, even there, P was telling a story that included differing priorities between the two of them...I mean, between a man and a woman who meet and fall in love.

Plus, I don't think Andy would ever say it publicly, but IMHO, I believe that everything is still too raw for her to return to the thick of the "Prince tribe." I think she loves them all dearly, but she has to do what is best for Andy and her spirit...and right now, I don't believe that involves Minneapolis...or touring with the NPG.

[Edited 4/14/18 4:10am]

She seemed really excited about the shows last month when she made a short video that they posted on the NC2P FB and IG and she reposted their post about two of the shows.I believe she was to perform at two.Since she posted the new photo of her on set in Hollywood,she most likely had auditioned for a role before she left for her shows in Europe and was contacted while over there that she had gotten the part,causing her to make the decision to cancel her performances for NC2P.It must have happened right before the rehearsals in Minneapolis because Shelby was announcing that she would be there during her FB Live at the end of March.NC2P also posted the photo of she and Prince from R&R Love Affair on FB and said that she was coming.I guess Andy decided that accepting the acting job would be the better move for her career understandably.She probably would have continued with the shows as planned had she not gotten the part.Andy just tweeted an article about Prince by Peter Cook so she's not trying to disassociate herself from him.She also tweeted recently that she was missing him.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

KoolEaze said:

Wow, I didn´t know that. I really love love LOVE that song. Now I need to find the video. It must be somewhere on the internet, even if it wasn´t released.

Thanks for the info.

Edit: Nah, can´t find it anywhere.

Do you know why it wasn´t released ?

[Edited 4/14/18 6:01am]

Andy posted about it on FB and then she never said any more about it. She and Miguel also posted photos taken while on set and she still has them on her FB and IG.The video was filmed summer of 2016.

Thanks !

KoolEaze said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Andy posted about it on FB and then she never said any more about it. She and Miguel also posted photos taken while on set and she still has them on her FB and IG.The video was filmed summer of 2016.

Thanks !

You're welcome! Here's Andy's IG post from 6.9.16 www.instagram.com/p/BGc3SKqnAX-/

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