Check out the photo Mayte posted of her with Sheila E. and The Twinz at Paisley Park at the Celebration 2018: https://www.instagram.com...zOqkzl7kl/ | |
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That's nice, glad to see they are all celebrating, even after the news came out yesterday. After the reports I've read, I won't be supporting any of them any more. | |
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Welcome 2 The Dawn!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Finally. | |
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PennyPurple said:
That's nice, glad to see they are all celebrating, even after the news came out yesterday. After the reports I've read, I won't be supporting any of them any more. What Judith said about Sheila doesn't make her Look really good tho. It's the same with Mayte when she wanted to know more and they Back peddled | |
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Remember this information is not new to them anymore. Its new to us, not them. Maybe, they don't want to dwell on this horrible info anymore. I am sure self interest is partly why they are doing it, but people can carry more than one emotion in their hearts and heads at the same time. It is emotionally easier to dwell on a man's legacy than rehash the hardest, more complex, and possibly painful parts of their association with him. BTW, are you not going to support Mayte anymore too? She is at these celebrations with Sheila.
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I'm done supporting any of them and all of them. The only book I will be supporting is the one that he started to write. If I'm interested in reading anymore of them, I will go to the library, I will not be buying. I'm done with the merchandise that the associates are hawking, I'm done with the Merchandise that PP is hawking, I'm done with the REV, NPG all of them, brothers and sisters included. I'm done with the associates tributes, that I feel are fake, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. | |
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PennyPurple said:
I'm done supporting any of them and all of them. The only book I will be supporting is the one that he started to write. If I'm interested in reading anymore of them, I will go to the library, I will not be buying. I'm done with the merchandise that the associates are hawking, I'm done with the Merchandise that PP is hawking, I'm done with the REV, NPG all of them, brothers and sisters included. I'm done with the associates tributes, that I feel are fake, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. But what did Mayte do? I don't think that all of the associates are Fake... | |
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Have you read any of the documents from the Sheriff's Dept?
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PennyPurple said:
Have you read any of the documents from the Sheriff's Dept?
Okay let's say she would've gone back then, who says that they let her go to him? It's not fair to judge her for that, we all know that Prince himself pushed people away. Or did I read this wrong? I mean the judging Part. [Edited 4/21/18 9:41am] | |
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I was wondering that as well. I haven't read all of the police report or interviews so maybe I missed something. | |
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pinkcashmere23 said:
I was wondering that as well. I haven't read all of the police report or interviews so maybe I missed something. From what I read in the News (the older stuff Not the new Things) she tried to reach out for him but some people blocked it. | |
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Ah ok. That's what I had read as well but I wonder who blocked it? Thanks! | |
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PennyPurple said:
Have you read any of the documents from the Sheriff's Dept?
Stop blaming his friends, family and associates for his death. Blame Prince. He was a smart and resourceful man. He knew where the road would lead him by taking pain medication. He knew he shouldn’t be taking medication not prescribed to him. He hid his condition for a long time from the people that loved him the most and wanted to help him. He also kicked out or fired the same people that truly loved him and wanted to help him. If you have ever dealt with an addict before, you’d understand. It’s not all about the money for most. It’s about keeping his legacy alive and appeasing his fans who want to visit Paisley Park, who want to know more about the man and who want to continue to buy his music and hear new music. It takes money to do all of that. | |
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I have read the reports and I still think its more complicated than just $$$. Money is a factor but that doesn't mean they are so inhumane to not see a human being. the problem is that emotions and motives get intermingled, Prince pushes people away, folks are afraid to talk to anyone with drug problem especially one in which the dependence is a result of pain (but add in that he is a star and your boss and its even more complicated) . People are a hot mess and do have selfish motives but most people are fundamentally decent (Prince included.) I try to take what people say with a grain of salt and factor in their own self protection or motives. But i never doubt their good intentions until they give me a good reason to do so and then I will change my mind when they prove otherwise. I have been back and forth where Shelby J was concerned, but her last interview got me back on her side. I go back and forth on all these people because they like Prince have egos too. Morris Day's site for example is asking people to focus on the good times with Prince and he has posted nothing but Prince love without dropping references to his own drum playing etc (unlike Andre--who I also go back and forth on). I think they need to be called out but I would rather be skeptical than completely cynical if that makes sense. The truth is somewhere in the middle of rosy-colored love and bleak cynical opportunism.
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Start reading the documents that have been released by the Sheriff dept. Then you will see what I'm saying.
They didn't love him enough to help him, for years they said they knew about his drug abuse. But now that he's gone, it's nothing but fake love from them only to make $$$
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How about we not blame anyone? All of them probably could have done better (Prince included.) His parents--everybody. The people who saw him dancing rigorously 30 years ago in high heels could have been more protective of him by saying Dude your body is going to a be a wreck in 20 years but how do you tell someone to stop doing something they love. Being a pop star is a tough life for all involved. Could it be better? Sure.. Its a tragedy and I can't blame Prince for wanting to do what sustained him as a human being with a reasonable amount of comfort and dignity while doing it. He just made mistakes in his approach. Not to say people can't be reproached for their bullshit, but "blame" is pointless. Mistakes were made and still are being made. Thus is life.
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. Wow, Penny! I never saw this coming! "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. ^^^^ I agree!! People should read the investigation documents before they come to any conclusion. Even the Attorney, Metz said Prince had "enablers", i.e., Kirk and the doctors. Just Kirk's behavior alone is very troubling, never mind the rest of them! . The hard and sad fact is that Kirk, Meron, Phaedra, the doctor's........They all tried so hard to protect Prince's privacy, and look at how it ended up. I'm not saying they didn't care about him; It didn't have to be that way. It also upsets me how Kirk acts as though he didn't know about Prince's problem with pills, until a few weeks before he died? For a man who had a 30+ year relationship & worked with Prince; that is very hard for me to accept. Kirk was Prince's "yes man", and that is why Prince kept him around. .
[Edited 4/21/18 12:58pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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After Michael Jackson's death and the jail-time that his doctor later got, maybe Dr. FeelGood doctors were running for the hills. I think Kirk probably sugar-coated his past but it is possible he didn't realize that the illness he was seeing was not just P overworking because he was so used to assistants going through doctors in the past and that wasn't something he was witnessing anymore. I just don't see Kirk getting him pills on a regular basis because the ones he did acquire from shulbarg were low in number and relatively mild. kirk went a more legitimate means (mostly), left a paper trail, and the drugs were more mild. Prince may have given it a shot but they were not working for him at all so he pulled out another stash he had been using. i think it was either assistants from the past or present who were buying them via darkweb. I doubt Kirk is a big computer guy.
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I read all the documents that have been released. If you've never dealt with an addict before, it's so easy to blame others, not realizing that if the addict doesn't want any help, you can't help him or her. | |
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I'm not blaming them for his death. 2 years after his death they are still lying about his drug use. It's in the documents that Sheila even told Judith not to say anything and if she had trouble they would lawyer her up.
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purplemist7777 said: pinkcashmere23 said: Did anyone attend? Yes will write about it tomorrow anxiously awaiting your summation! Hope there were moments discussed that she never brought up in her book. | |
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amethyst68 said: PennyPurple said:
Have you read any of the documents from the Sheriff's Dept?
Stop blaming his friends, family and associates for his death. Blame Prince. He was a smart and resourceful man. He knew where the road would lead him by taking pain medication. He knew he shouldn’t be taking medication not prescribed to him. He hid his condition for a long time from the people that loved him the most and wanted to help him. He also kicked out or fired the same people that truly loved him and wanted to help him. If you have ever dealt with an addict before, you’d understand. It’s not all about the money for most. It’s about keeping his legacy alive and appeasing his fans who want to visit Paisley Park, who want to know more about the man and who want to continue to buy his music and hear new music. It takes money to do all of that. The blame falls to Prince compounding bad choices or choice may by his addiction, not him. He chose not to go directly into rehab after Moline, and took pills that were not the ones prescribed for him hours earlier but others from questionable sources that faithful night. Don’t blame anyone else for him being alone at Paisley that was also his choice. RIP No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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You would honestly ask her all of these intimate questions about her child that passed away? I would feel very self-conscious about asking any woman to revisit those ghosts, and particularly in a roomful of strangers. | |
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Ottensen said:
You would honestly ask her all of these intimate questions about her child that passed away? I would feel very self-conscious about asking any woman to revisit those ghosts, and particularly in a roomful of strangers. Sorry, but she had wrote about these intimate moments in her book - so if one is genuinely concerned I can’t see why not. Don’t publish something you don’t want discussed? | |
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Latin said: PennyPurple said: Now this is exciting!! Thanks Latin It is exciting. You are very welcome. What is you don't understand about facilitating a dellusional woman. | |
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margi said: Latin said: It is exciting. You are very welcome. What is you don't understand about facilitating a dellusional woman. You Sound like LR [Edited 4/24/18 5:17am] | |
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