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Mumio said:
Newsflash!!!This thread is about a Mayte. So, if YOU don’t like it, there are hundreds of other threads that might be better suited for you. By the way, what is a “Stan?” | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Mumio said:
You can find it on SoundCloud if you’re really interested. It’s spoken in Spanish. I pretty much summarized what was said in an earlier comment. | |
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Mumio said:
Yes. Let’s hope that things get really organized. The NPG is doing well with this, and others too, like the panels etc...with time I expect it to come together really well. | |
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amethyst68 said: Mumio said:
You can find it on SoundCloud if you’re really interested. It’s spoken in Spanish. I pretty much summarized what was said in an earlier comment. Thanks, Amethyst. Can you give us a date or place? [Edited 4/10/18 15:55pm] | |
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[Edited 4/10/18 16:21pm] Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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I think our very own Militant is going to be there taking part of the celebration too. They invited him to partake in it. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Maybe Violet Reality will record some of it and share it with us. | |
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[Edited 4/10/18 22:56pm] Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Don't care. Don't care at all A stan is a st=stalker an=fan. It's a common term used to reference those who can't see clearly This FORUM is about Prince, hence it's name as prince.org. It's not a place of worship for ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-female associates. If you are gonna show up here and sit around and praise these associates as though they are more important than he is, you can damn well expect some slap-back over it. It's pitiful that as much as the stans are stanning, you can't find a freaking forum to post in. In fact, there's apparently so LITTLE INTEREST, that no one even wants to create one Says it all, right [Edited 4/10/18 16:21pm] Well, here's the thing, Mumio....while you are indeed correct in stating that this forum is "about Prince", he was a complete man and led a full life and, by all accounts, enjoyed all aspects of that full life (sex, marriage, dating, friendship, collaborating professionally/personally, etc.) and the forum reflects that. Perhaps you have not noticed that you are posting in the sub forum titled "Associated Artists & People". You know, the place designated specifically to discuss those "associates" of Prince. So that you are clear, I am including a definition of the aforementioned: noun plural noun: associates əˈsōSHēət/ 1.a partner or colleague in business or at work. "he arranged for a close associate to take control of the institute" synonyms: partner, colleague, coworker, workmate, comrade, ally, affiliate, confederate; connection, contact, acquaintance; collaborator; informal crony; informal peeps "his business associate" I chose not to include the definition of "people" as I presume you are clear on that. Perhaps I presume too much? Just in case, that would be any human Prince associated with, whether in a professional or personal capacity, during his lifetime. Btw....the moniker Mom fits. [Edited 4/10/18 18:27pm] "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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I finally got the book from the library, and I was like, what??? Felt like she revealed nothing really about who Prince was, nor did it seem like she really revealed anything of substance about the core of their relationship. I felt like Steve Parke's recollections/vignettes which accompanied his photos in the book Picturing Prince, showed more of Prince and his personality, who he was, then her entire book; which I found very weird. | |
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Maybe some people expect such behavior from "associates", "band members", etc; but have a higher standard for someone who was his wife??? Don't know, just throwing an idea out there. | |
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But this particular associate is not selling her own wares right now. We are not discussing mayte's singing voice or looks or dancing moves or songwriting ability or acting ability--qualities he advocated for her while they were together and did nothing to impede after they were apart. . In a way she has done herself a disservice by revealing her woes where Prince is concerned and appearing on two reality shows revolving around either ex's or current love interests. . When we talk about her, we talk about Prince too. But in reality, he is the main attraction in her story but unfortunately due to the one-sided nature of this stuff, he is also the villian. He is like Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight...the story is about Batman but really we all want to know about is the Joker because the actor playing the Joker gave more effort artistically and is a villian we love to hate. And this particular episode of Batman is found on the Joker's fan community (under Joker's Enemies.) Mayte, I do believe, has talent but she seemed to want fame more than an artistic life after the divorce. I know its a tough industry for women and sometimes you just need the attention to get your foot in the door and I know she has tried to work as a choreographer and actor. But her reality show and biography are overshadowing any of that and Idon't think they are necessarily helping even if she is getting more clients in her dance lessons. She would have been smarter to hold off delving into their personal lives, put the focus on her influences on his work, and used the personal stuff like a carrot to dangle in the faces of the industry.
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Do you have a link to an interview where Mani or Prince confirmed this? Is there a link with pictures of the two of them clearly engaging in some adulterous behavior; not stories/reports of people seeing her in Mayte's clothes? I know what has been posted, written in a book, but people on her keep making this statment like it is TRUTH and where's the actual proof? | |
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Not being funny, but where do you do research to find "facts" and what do people actually "know" about Manuela? I mean know from frist hand experiences? Prince in his lifetime went around saying alll manner of things which weren't always "truthful"; so just because he said his marraige was "strong"; doesn't mean that was the truth. I would love to do some research and find facts and not just gossip and heresay. | |
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In all fairness, Manuela was in the Come On video but we don't have neither one of their sides. In Prince's case because he was private when he was alive and now currently dead. As for Manuela, I am not sure why she is quiet. People who hate her say it is because she is guilty as sin. I hold off judgment or at least acknowledge that even if they were bonding a little too much while Prince was still married, it may be more complicated and gradual than we think.
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You are simply going by Mayte's interpretations of events; where you there to witness all of this? " made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reason", I understand that she was depressed and grieving, but if she was getting info that he was cheating, she felt something was wrong, she knew that the girl is MN was on her way in, why didn't she leave Spain and go fight for her marriage? Stop putting everything on Prince based simply on Mayte's point of view. | |
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I want to like Mayte because he liked her. That clip of Prince and Mayte watching Stevie Wonder give him a lifetime achievement award is so sweet. She and Prince up there giving an award to George Clinton was sweet. Mayte is a beautiful charming woman and funny. Peoplewant to like mayte but sometimes her inconsistencies and calculating moves make it hard to completely trust her. Like in the reality show when she would smile in people's faces and then break their sugar bowl on purpose when they were gone because she was jealous of their wealth..staged or not, that is not a good way to present oneself. Prince was full of crap sometimes but no one was electing him for sainthood and his work and stage charisma was what drew people in. People forgave him for his flaws (particularly after he died)and honored him for his massive amount of work and talen and were surprised to hear how funny, warm, and quietly charitable he could be; but contrary to what some think, he was never sanctified particularly when he was alive. the fact that people are "crusading" for Mayte (literally there are "MayteCrusaders" online). Why? She had to know she would get some heat for this and Prince's behavior was years ago and he didn't live to defend himself. She has a family and a daughter and living comfortable enough to afford a cute ranch in Los Angeles. My uncle used to live in L.A. county (not even in L.A). He had two jobs and could only afford a tiny little 1100 foot square house. Its expensive out there. I was born out there and we moved due to the expenses out there.
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Thank you for highlighting some of the things I was attempting to say, but conveying them with a much more positve vibe. You presented as calm, cool and collected; examining things from various perspectives. | |
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"This press conference- at which my husband and I were wearing our wedding rings--took place in spain in mid-December 1998, while he was on the European leg of the Newpower Soul Tour". The Most Beautiful chapter 11; page 346.
"..and then he announced that he and I were going to have our marriag annulled so we could renew our vows...." pg 347 | |
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I had an epithany. Prince had the same attitude about his women as he did his music. Love everyone of them, get tired of the safe and familiar, look for the next new thing and not look back. Thus once out of the inner circle, you were out. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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Or maybe just fearful of the challenges that come after the romance/fantasy/euphoria is over and the real work at maintaining relationships begins. He did reach back at times to older flames/friendships and brought them briefly back into the fold (sheila, W and L, Andy in some ways--and male musicians as well) and he did revisit older work. You might be oversimplifying the man a tad. I see him as having abandonment issues and control issues and wanting to avoid unpleasantness (even if his actions could be cold at times, they seem almost desperate to hang on to a fantasy to me.) Prince didn't mind "safe and familiar" at times. Hell, its not like he stopped living in MN, wearing heels and makeup, performing constantly etc. The dude had his routines.
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. I was refering to the event at PP for the Prince Celebration, not the StageIt Q&A. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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