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Reply #240 posted 04/10/18 3:47pm

Mumio

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Mumio said:



The interview is on YouTube.....you can search it out there. It's pretty clear it was more than just getting caught off guard lol

It wasn’t an interview. It’s an announcement he made during one of his concerts and it’s not on YouTube.



If you are talking something different then give a link to it. Otherwise....don't bother.

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Reply #241 posted 04/10/18 3:48pm

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Mumio said:



amethyst68 said:


Mumio said:



Sure did! nod lol hug

It's a fucking travesty is what it is, especially certain relatives who are using their relation as reason for reaching for their piece of the pie wink This celebration thing is gonna be a side show before long, and they will never get a dime from me, especially if certain people wink are there lol

Shit, they can't even sell out that Target Center show, it's a freaking deal on Groupon in an effort to move those tickets lol


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Give it a rest! Everyone isn’t out to get “a piece of the pie.” If anything, they’re responding to the requests of fans that want this and want to keep his legacy alive. Everybody year, fans gather at Graceland for Elvis and he died in 1977. First there were fans whining over the family not having a public memorial. Now they want to complain about celebrate his life.



Lol, piss off amethyst68. You're here to promote an m1 agenda, it's crystal clear from all your stanning and I'm not having it. If you don't like what I have to say you can move your azz right along nod She's taking advantage and I don't care how much you want to sugar coat that shit, that is what is happening. As it is with so many others, except no one stans so hard for them lol



Newsflash!!!This thread is about a Mayte. So, if YOU don’t like it, there are hundreds of other threads that might be better suited for you. By the way, what is a “Stan?”
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Reply #242 posted 04/10/18 3:49pm

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amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I saw the interview recently and it's interesting to say the least.

It’s not the same thing we’re talking about. This announcement was made during one of his concerts a few days later.



Link???? linklinklinklinklink!!!! Provide or it didn't happen lol

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Reply #243 posted 04/10/18 3:50pm

amethyst68

Mumio said:



amethyst68 said:


Mumio said:




The interview is on YouTube.....you can search it out there. It's pretty clear it was more than just getting caught off guard lol



It wasn’t an interview. It’s an announcement he made during one of his concerts and it’s not on YouTube.



If you are talking something different then give a link to it. Otherwise....don't bother.



You can find it on SoundCloud if you’re really interested. It’s spoken in Spanish. I pretty much summarized what was said in an earlier comment.
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Reply #244 posted 04/10/18 3:52pm

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Mumio said:



anangellooksdown said:


Mumio said:



Sure did! nod lol hug

It's a fucking travesty is what it is, especially certain relatives who are using their relation as reason for reaching for their piece of the pie wink This celebration thing is gonna be a side show before long, and they will never get a dime from me, especially if certain people wink are there lol

Shit, they can't even sell out that Target Center show, it's a freaking deal on Groupon in an effort to move those tickets lol


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I see what you’re saying, Mumio, but I also want him to bet celebrate every year. I am interested in seeing what this becomes with the passing of time neutral I am sad that this isn’t selling out, but I think there are other things going on at the same time, and not everyone can get to Minnie. They also might’ve chosen a bigger venue than they needed, but had a good agreement with the Target Center. [Edited 4/10/18 14:54pm]



I want to celebrate him too, but no one has hit on exactly how to do that yet. You might be right, over time they may find the winning formula...and make no mistake, that IS what I want to happen. Prince wanted Paisley Park to be a museum, he wanted us to go there. But I know it's not "there" yet. Once the taxes are dealt with, maybe things will change....




Yes. Let’s hope that things get really organized. The NPG is doing well with this, and others too, like the panels etc...with time I expect it to come together really well.
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Reply #245 posted 04/10/18 3:53pm

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amethyst68 said:

Mumio said:



amethyst68 said:


Mumio said:




The interview is on YouTube.....you can search it out there. It's pretty clear it was more than just getting caught off guard lol



It wasn’t an interview. It’s an announcement he made during one of his concerts and it’s not on YouTube.



If you are talking something different then give a link to it. Otherwise....don't bother.



You can find it on SoundCloud if you’re really interested. It’s spoken in Spanish. I pretty much summarized what was said in an earlier comment.


Thanks, Amethyst. Can you give us a date or place?
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Reply #246 posted 04/10/18 3:59pm

Mumio

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amethyst68 said:

Mumio said:



Lol, piss off amethyst68. You're here to promote an m1 agenda, it's crystal clear from all your stanning and I'm not having it. If you don't like what I have to say you can move your azz right along nod She's taking advantage and I don't care how much you want to sugar coat that shit, that is what is happening. As it is with so many others, except no one stans so hard for them lol

Newsflash!!!This thread is about a Mayte. So, if YOU don’t like it, there are hundreds of other threads that might be better suited for you. By the way, what is a “Stan?”



Don't care. Don't care at all razz

A stan is a st=stalker an=fan. It's a common term used to reference those who can't see clearly lol

This FORUM is about Prince, hence it's name as prince.org. It's not a place of worship for ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-female associates. If you are gonna show up here and sit around and praise these associates as though they are more important than he is, you can damn well expect some slap-back over it.

It's pitiful that as much as the stans are stanning, you can't find a freaking forum to post in. In fact, there's apparently so LITTLE INTEREST, that no one even wants to create one lol Says it all, right lol


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Reply #247 posted 04/10/18 4:03pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Mumio said:



I want to celebrate him too, but no one has hit on exactly how to do that yet. You might be right, over time they may find the winning formula...and make no mistake, that IS what I want to happen. Prince wanted Paisley Park to be a museum, he wanted us to go there. But I know it's not "there" yet. Once the taxes are dealt with, maybe things will change....


Yes. Let’s hope that things get really organized. The NPG is doing well with this, and others too, like the panels etc...with time I expect it to come together really well.



Agree with what I bolded and really do hope it works out that way.

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Reply #248 posted 04/10/18 4:07pm

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amethyst68 said:

Mumio said:



If you are talking something different then give a link to it. Otherwise....don't bother.

You can find it on SoundCloud if you’re really interested. It’s spoken in Spanish. I pretty much summarized what was said in an earlier comment.




Lol, so if I don't know Spanish then I have to assume your summary is correct? I speak English. Would you please provide an English link? Please and thank you smile

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Reply #249 posted 04/10/18 4:23pm

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I think our very own Militant is going to be there taking part of the celebration too. They invited him to partake in it.

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Reply #250 posted 04/10/18 4:39pm

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PennyPurple said:

I think our very own Militant is going to be there taking part of the celebration too. They invited him to partake in it.


Yep nod

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Reply #251 posted 04/10/18 4:45pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

I think our very own Militant is going to be there taking part of the celebration too. They invited him to partake in it.


Yep nod

Maybe Violet Reality will record some of it and share it with us.

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Reply #252 posted 04/10/18 4:46pm

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PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:


Yep nod

Maybe Violet Reality will record some of it and share it with us.



Lol, no doubt nod I'd listen.

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Reply #253 posted 04/10/18 6:22pm

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Mumio said:



amethyst68 said:


Mumio said:

Lol, piss off amethyst68. You're here to promote an m1 agenda, it's crystal clear from all your stanning and I'm not having it. If you don't like what I have to say you can move your azz right along nod She's taking advantage and I don't care how much you want to sugar coat that shit, that is what is happening. As it is with so many others, except no one stans so hard for them lol



Newsflash!!!This thread is about a Mayte. So, if YOU don’t like it, there are hundreds of other threads that might be better suited for you. By the way, what is a “Stan?”

Don't care. Don't care at all razz A stan is a st=stalker an=fan. It's a common term used to reference those who can't see clearly lolThis FORUM is about Prince, hence it's name as prince.org. It's not a place of worship for ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-female associates. If you are gonna show up here and sit around and praise these associates as though they are more important than he is, you can damn well expect some slap-back over it. It's pitiful that as much as the stans are stanning, you can't find a freaking forum to post in. In fact, there's apparently so LITTLE INTEREST, that no one even wants to create one lol Says it all, right lol [Edited 4/10/18 16:21pm]


Well, here's the thing, Mumio....while you are indeed correct in stating that this forum is "about Prince", he was a complete man and led a full life and, by all accounts, enjoyed all aspects of that full life (sex, marriage, dating, friendship, collaborating professionally/personally, etc.) and the forum reflects that.

Perhaps you have not noticed that you are posting in the sub forum titled "Associated Artists & People". You know, the place designated specifically to discuss those "associates" of Prince. So that you are clear, I am including a definition of the aforementioned:

noun

plural noun: associates

əˈsōSHēət/

1.a partner or colleague in business or at work.

"he arranged for a close associate to take control of the institute"

synonyms: partner, colleague, coworker, workmate, comrade, ally, affiliate, confederate; connection, contact, acquaintance; collaborator; informal crony; informal peeps

"his business associate"


I chose not to include the definition of "people" as I presume you are clear on that. Perhaps I presume too much? Just in case, that would be any human Prince associated with, whether in a professional or personal capacity, during his lifetime.

Btw....the moniker Mom fits.
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Reply #254 posted 04/10/18 7:13pm

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purplerabbithole said:

Until some of these folks start demanding answers for his death, talk about him without propping themselves and their talents up (like Prince is just a list of references on their resume) and start advocating for the wide release of all his limited releases and out of print music (and not just the stuff they played on that is trapped in the vault) , I have no time for any of these people right now. I had issues with Mayte due to her timing, inconsistencies and her selling his old stuff in March of 2016 even though she later claimed she was worried for his health in January..so I was more offended by her for a while. But right now, I can't say I completely trust these others as well. I don't know maybe they found personal justification for selling his stuff like Susannah talked about in her interview about her auction (she was pretty convincing) but I sometimes wonder about all of them. sometimes they all seem like human vultures circling the corpse to get their piece. "everybody's got to have their piece.." not caring how he died or what his music on whole was (other than a platform for their own glorification due to their contributions)

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Mayte is not the only one and it’s not fair to single out her. Kim Berry is doing an event called “Glam Slam Beauty Day with Kim Berry” on April 19 at the Chanhassen Rec Center. She posted the flyer for this event on her Instagram this week. The event requires a deposit. Mayte wrote a book. Devin Devasquez a book. Steve Park made a book. Afshin Shahidi made a book. The Revolution are touring. NPG members, such as Shelby J., are touring and promoting Prince. Rolling Stone, Billboard, and other publications have made special Prince issues. People are selling out-of-print Prince or prince albums for hundreds of dollars on eBay. . People are trying to keep Prince’s memory alive, and there is a cost involved in sharing one’s time, traveling, organizing events, and so forth. [Edited 4/5/18 22:04pm]

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Reply #255 posted 04/10/18 7:39pm

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littlemissG said:

She will be answering questions about an ex-huband she admits not having spoken to in ten years. What is worth $25 that isn’t in her book?

I finally got the book from the library, and I was like, what??? Felt like she revealed nothing really about who Prince was, nor did it seem like she really revealed anything of substance about the core of their relationship. I felt like Steve Parke's recollections/vignettes which accompanied his photos in the book Picturing Prince, showed more of Prince and his personality, who he was, then her entire book; which I found very weird.

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Reply #256 posted 04/10/18 7:48pm

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NotACleverName said:

Mumio said:

Don't care. Don't care at all razz A stan is a st=stalker an=fan. It's a common term used to reference those who can't see clearly lolThis FORUM is about Prince, hence it's name as prince.org. It's not a place of worship for ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-female associates. If you are gonna show up here and sit around and praise these associates as though they are more important than he is, you can damn well expect some slap-back over it. It's pitiful that as much as the stans are stanning, you can't find a freaking forum to post in. In fact, there's apparently so LITTLE INTEREST, that no one even wants to create one lol Says it all, right lol [Edited 4/10/18 16:21pm]

Well, here's the thing, Mumio....while you are indeed correct in stating that this forum is "about Prince", he was a complete man and led a full life and, by all accounts, enjoyed all aspects of that full life (sex, marriage, dating, friendship, collaborating professionally/personally, etc.) and the forum reflects that. Perhaps you have not noticed that you are posting in the sub forum titled "Associated Artists & People". You know, the place designated specifically to discuss those "associates" of Prince. So that you are clear, I am including a definition of the aforementioned: noun plural noun: associates əˈsōSHēət/ 1.a partner or colleague in business or at work. "he arranged for a close associate to take control of the institute" synonyms: partner, colleague, coworker, workmate, comrade, ally, affiliate, confederate; connection, contact, acquaintance; collaborator; informal crony; informal peeps "his business associate" I chose not to include the definition of "people" as I presume you are clear on that. Perhaps I presume too much? Just in case, that would be any human Prince associated with, whether in a professional or personal capacity, during his lifetime. Btw....the moniker Mom fits. [Edited 4/10/18 18:27pm]



lol I know exactly where I am posting. Heard it all before and it matters no more than it ever did. There's no issue talking about any of those he worked with, the issue is those who are tripping over themselves, fawning over those who worked with...and FOR...him. This is not the place for that and always results in dragging and always will. I'm sure you've noticed that it goes that way over and over. Presume that wink

Now be a good child and move along...past your bedtime no doubt lol wink


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Reply #257 posted 04/10/18 7:49pm

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LilaLiebe said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you mean the gig where Kim will be doing hair, make-up, eyelashes, etc.? I think she's charging about $250, which is a steal for a makeover, even one done by Laquita down at the local JC Penney at the mall, let alone a stylist to the stars.

Why does Kim need to attach Prince's name and her history with him to any event like this that she does? She could just say "Stylist to the Stars" and leave it at that yet she's using Prince's name to increase interest in her.

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And I say all the above not to critisize Kim - I'm trying to point out how your argument seems hypocritical and cherrypicking certain people where it's OK for them to use an association or relationship with Prince to "cash in" as you say, yet for others (those you don't like) it's not OK. shrug

Maybe some people expect such behavior from "associates", "band members", etc; but have a higher standard for someone who was his wife??? Don't know, just throwing an idea out there.

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Reply #258 posted 04/10/18 7:50pm

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Asenath said:

purplerabbithole said:

Until some of these folks start demanding answers for his death, talk about him without propping themselves and their talents up (like Prince is just a list of references on their resume) and start advocating for the wide release of all his limited releases and out of print music (and not just the stuff they played on that is trapped in the vault) , I have no time for any of these people right now. I had issues with Mayte due to her timing, inconsistencies and her selling his old stuff in March of 2016 even though she later claimed she was worried for his health in January..so I was more offended by her for a while. But right now, I can't say I completely trust these others as well. I don't know maybe they found personal justification for selling his stuff like Susannah talked about in her interview about her auction (she was pretty convincing) but I sometimes wonder about all of them. sometimes they all seem like human vultures circling the corpse to get their piece. "everybody's got to have their piece.." not caring how he died or what his music on whole was (other than a platform for their own glorification due to their contributions)

[Edited 4/5/18 22:20pm]

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Reply #259 posted 04/10/18 7:51pm

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But this particular associate is not selling her own wares right now. We are not discussing mayte's singing voice or looks or dancing moves or songwriting ability or acting ability--qualities he advocated for her while they were together and did nothing to impede after they were apart. . In a way she has done herself a disservice by revealing her woes where Prince is concerned and appearing on two reality shows revolving around either ex's or current love interests. . When we talk about her, we talk about Prince too. But in reality, he is the main attraction in her story but unfortunately due to the one-sided nature of this stuff, he is also the villian. He is like Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight...the story is about Batman but really we all want to know about is the Joker because the actor playing the Joker gave more effort artistically and is a villian we love to hate. And this particular episode of Batman is found on the Joker's fan community (under Joker's Enemies.) Mayte, I do believe, has talent but she seemed to want fame more than an artistic life after the divorce. I know its a tough industry for women and sometimes you just need the attention to get your foot in the door and I know she has tried to work as a choreographer and actor. But her reality show and biography are overshadowing any of that and Idon't think they are necessarily helping even if she is getting more clients in her dance lessons. She would have been smarter to hold off delving into their personal lives, put the focus on her influences on his work, and used the personal stuff like a carrot to dangle in the faces of the industry.

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Mumio said:

Don't care. Don't care at all razz A stan is a st=stalker an=fan. It's a common term used to reference those who can't see clearly lolThis FORUM is about Prince, hence it's name as prince.org. It's not a place of worship for ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-female associates. If you are gonna show up here and sit around and praise these associates as though they are more important than he is, you can damn well expect some slap-back over it. It's pitiful that as much as the stans are stanning, you can't find a freaking forum to post in. In fact, there's apparently so LITTLE INTEREST, that no one even wants to create one lol Says it all, right lol [Edited 4/10/18 16:21pm]

Well, here's the thing, Mumio....while you are indeed correct in stating that this forum is "about Prince", he was a complete man and led a full life and, by all accounts, enjoyed all aspects of that full life (sex, marriage, dating, friendship, collaborating professionally/personally, etc.) and the forum reflects that. Perhaps you have not noticed that you are posting in the sub forum titled "Associated Artists & People". You know, the place designated specifically to discuss those "associates" of Prince. So that you are clear, I am including a definition of the aforementioned: noun plural noun: associates əˈsōSHēət/ 1.a partner or colleague in business or at work. "he arranged for a close associate to take control of the institute" synonyms: partner, colleague, coworker, workmate, comrade, ally, affiliate, confederate; connection, contact, acquaintance; collaborator; informal crony; informal peeps "his business associate" I chose not to include the definition of "people" as I presume you are clear on that. Perhaps I presume too much? Just in case, that would be any human Prince associated with, whether in a professional or personal capacity, during his lifetime. Btw....the moniker Mom fits. [Edited 4/10/18 18:27pm]

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Reply #260 posted 04/10/18 8:00pm

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PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I think people feel sympathy for Mayte because of what she went through with Prince and the loss of her Son and etc. A lot of people don't feel the same way about M2 because Prince gave her a generous divorce settlement, so there is a lot of people who are bitter, and they are gonna side with M1. I'm not one of them.

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"I love you, but I don't trust U anymore" -- I think Prince wrote that because that is how he was feeling after his breakup/divorce with Mayte. Perhaps he always did still love her, from afar -- but he came to the hard realization that it was officially over and he could not trust her anymore; he moved on. Sometimes, love is not enough. Been there, done that. wink

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I agree with what you said about Hollywood Exes. nod

Prince moved on with Mani while he was still married.

Do you have a link to an interview where Mani or Prince confirmed this? Is there a link with pictures of the two of them clearly engaging in some adulterous behavior; not stories/reports of people seeing her in Mayte's clothes? I know what has been posted, written in a book, but people on her keep making this statment like it is TRUTH and where's the actual proof?

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Reply #261 posted 04/10/18 8:05pm

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amethyst68 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I think people feel sympathy for Mayte because of what she went through with Prince and the loss of her Son and etc. A lot of people don't feel the same way about M2 because Prince gave her a generous divorce settlement, so there is a lot of people who are bitter, and they are gonna side with M1. I'm not one of them.

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"I love you, but I don't trust U anymore" -- I think Prince wrote that because that is how he was feeling after his breakup/divorce with Mayte. Perhaps he always did still love her, from afar -- but he came to the hard realization that it was officially over and he could not trust her anymore; he moved on. Sometimes, love is not enough. Been there, done that. wink

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I agree with what you said about Hollywood Exes. nod

The song you're talking about was recorded a year before they divorced and while they were still very much married. He didn't come to the realization their marriage was over. He was still telling interviewers and fans their relationship was stronger than ever and they'd be together forever despite cheating on his wife and quoting Jehovah's Witness doctrine at the same time. No man goes around talking about his wife if he knows she's cheating on him or if he thinks they're headed to divorce court. And, no man, will say in a press conference he and his wife remain friends and still see each other, if he had any doubts about the kind of woman she was. Hence, the reason, he said nothing about Manuela, not a word, after packing her things and locking her out of their home in 2005.

You folks are funny. You make up you're own stories about what happened between these two people and ignore what was actually occurring at the time. Prince was THE reason for the demise of his first marriage and he knew it and his marriage to Manuela was nothing but a rebound marriage in an attempt to forget the pain of losing his child and the woman he called the love of his life. No one feels sympathy for Manuela because of what they know about her. Do your research.

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Not being funny, but where do you do research to find "facts" and what do people actually "know" about Manuela? I mean know from frist hand experiences? Prince in his lifetime went around saying alll manner of things which weren't always "truthful"; so just because he said his marraige was "strong"; doesn't mean that was the truth. I would love to do some research and find facts and not just gossip and heresay.

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Reply #262 posted 04/10/18 8:10pm

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In all fairness, Manuela was in the Come On video but we don't have neither one of their sides. In Prince's case because he was private when he was alive and now currently dead. As for Manuela, I am not sure why she is quiet. People who hate her say it is because she is guilty as sin. I hold off judgment or at least acknowledge that even if they were bonding a little too much while Prince was still married, it may be more complicated and gradual than we think.

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PennyPurple said:

Prince moved on with Mani while he was still married.

Do you have a link to an interview where Mani or Prince confirmed this? Is there a link with pictures of the two of them clearly engaging in some adulterous behavior; not stories/reports of people seeing her in Mayte's clothes? I know what has been posted, written in a book, but people on her keep making this statment like it is TRUTH and where's the actual proof?

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Reply #263 posted 04/10/18 8:13pm

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206Michelle said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I concur. After I saw the way Mayte behaved on Hollywood Exes, that told me everything that I needed to know about her. Prince had nothing to do with her for nearly 20-years, and right up until his untimely passing. To me, that speaks in volumes about how he felt about her. When she said "I didn't get any PR money"; well, there ya go!! Look at her behavior "before" and "after Prince's death, and you get what I'm saying here. I don't hate Mayte, but I don't have to like her either. She can easily fool some people, but she's not fooling me. If Prince was just a regular guy, she wouldn't be doing any of this, because she would have nothing to gain. I wish her the best; I really do. I hope she can move on, at some point, for her own sake. Prince will always be her cash cow, sadly. sad

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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You are simply going by Mayte's interpretations of events; where you there to witness all of this? " prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reason", I understand that she was depressed and grieving, but if she was getting info that he was cheating, she felt something was wrong, she knew that the girl is MN was on her way in, why didn't she leave Spain and go fight for her marriage? Stop putting everything on Prince based simply on Mayte's point of view.

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Reply #264 posted 04/10/18 8:18pm

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I want to like Mayte because he liked her. That clip of Prince and Mayte watching Stevie Wonder give him a lifetime achievement award is so sweet. She and Prince up there giving an award to George Clinton was sweet. Mayte is a beautiful charming woman and funny. Peoplewant to like mayte but sometimes her inconsistencies and calculating moves make it hard to completely trust her. Like in the reality show when she would smile in people's faces and then break their sugar bowl on purpose when they were gone because she was jealous of their wealth..staged or not, that is not a good way to present oneself. Prince was full of crap sometimes but no one was electing him for sainthood and his work and stage charisma was what drew people in. People forgave him for his flaws (particularly after he died)and honored him for his massive amount of work and talen and were surprised to hear how funny, warm, and quietly charitable he could be; but contrary to what some think, he was never sanctified particularly when he was alive. the fact that people are "crusading" for Mayte (literally there are "MayteCrusaders" online). Why? She had to know she would get some heat for this and Prince's behavior was years ago and he didn't live to defend himself. She has a family and a daughter and living comfortable enough to afford a cute ranch in Los Angeles. My uncle used to live in L.A. county (not even in L.A). He had two jobs and could only afford a tiny little 1100 foot square house. Its expensive out there. I was born out there and we moved due to the expenses out there.

Asenath said:

LilaLiebe said:

Why does Kim need to attach Prince's name and her history with him to any event like this that she does? She could just say "Stylist to the Stars" and leave it at that yet she's using Prince's name to increase interest in her.

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And I say all the above not to critisize Kim - I'm trying to point out how your argument seems hypocritical and cherrypicking certain people where it's OK for them to use an association or relationship with Prince to "cash in" as you say, yet for others (those you don't like) it's not OK. shrug

Maybe some people expect such behavior from "associates", "band members", etc; but have a higher standard for someone who was his wife??? Don't know, just throwing an idea out there.

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Reply #265 posted 04/10/18 8:24pm

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purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

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You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Thank you for highlighting some of the things I was attempting to say, but conveying them with a much more positve vibe. You presented as calm, cool and collected; examining things from various perspectives.

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Reply #266 posted 04/10/18 8:51pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said: He never attempted to annul their marriage. According to his press conference, they would annul their marriage and remarry on their anniversary. It was nonsense. You have to use a little common sense.

Okay...and when was that press conference when they announced that they would annul their marriage (and remarry on their anniversary)?

"This press conference- at which my husband and I were wearing our wedding rings--took place in spain in mid-December 1998, while he was on the European leg of the Newpower Soul Tour". The Most Beautiful chapter 11; page 346.

"..and then he announced that he and I were going to have our marriag annulled so we could renew our vows...." pg 347

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Reply #267 posted 04/10/18 9:00pm

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I had an epithany. Prince had the same attitude about his women as he did his music.

Love everyone of them, get tired of the safe and familiar, look for the next new thing and not look back. Thus once out of the inner circle, you were out.

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Reply #268 posted 04/10/18 9:17pm

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Or maybe just fearful of the challenges that come after the romance/fantasy/euphoria is over and the real work at maintaining relationships begins. He did reach back at times to older flames/friendships and brought them briefly back into the fold (sheila, W and L, Andy in some ways--and male musicians as well) and he did revisit older work. You might be oversimplifying the man a tad. I see him as having abandonment issues and control issues and wanting to avoid unpleasantness (even if his actions could be cold at times, they seem almost desperate to hang on to a fantasy to me.) Prince didn't mind "safe and familiar" at times. Hell, its not like he stopped living in MN, wearing heels and makeup, performing constantly etc. The dude had his routines.

littlemissG said:

I had an epithany. Prince had the same attitude about his women as he did his music.

Love everyone of them, get tired of the safe and familiar, look for the next new thing and not look back. Thus once out of the inner circle, you were out.

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Reply #269 posted 04/11/18 12:02pm

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anangellooksdown said:

cloveringold85 said:

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The ad says it's taking place from April 19th thru the 22nd.

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Am I reading it wrong??

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On the StageIt website, it says: “April 19 at 9:30 AM PDT - 90 min. show - Price: 250 Notes” It also says, “For those of you that can't make it to Minneapolis for Celebration week or make it to Mayte's Q & A/Class, here is an opportunity to take part in one of the premier events taking place during this week.” I can’t understand if there are two separate events, or what. Perhaps there is one on the 21st, also, Clovering?

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I was refering to the event at PP for the Prince Celebration, not the StageIt Q&A. wink

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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