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Reply #150 posted 04/08/18 9:40pm

FlyOnTheWall

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Not necessarily. In fact, that is a classic non sequitur. To say that, since the family and/or estate has not sued or pushed back, then what Mayte (or anyone else) wrote must not be inaccurate is just not sound reasoning. Please!

There are been MANY books written about Prince from people who knew him intimately to people who never met him. Who have you known to write a book about Prince and be sued? He had no grounds to sue her. Furthermore, most of the events mentioned in her book can be confirmed either by others or by things he himself said at the time.

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Could you please address my specific comments when responding to me? Thanks. If you've been following this thread, you will see that it was not I who initially mentioned possible lawsuits. I was responding to another comment that presented a faulty conclusion.

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Reply #151 posted 04/08/18 10:05pm

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The dragging continues as it always does, but people still keep coming back for more lol so expect more of the same.

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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #152 posted 04/09/18 6:46am

Latin

206Michelle said:

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Source: https://www.rollingstone....nt-w517090 and https://www.facebook.com/...7216206022



(I used the image from Rolling Stone because it is bigger.)





Thanks for posting.

Mayte posted the following on Instagram with that Celebration
2018 image:

"If you aren’t coming ... I hope you do. There will be nothing but love there! #princecelebration2018 I’m looking forward to seeing you and my purple family ! #eternallove #family #themostbeautiful #npg4life #paisleypark"

Here it is:

https://www.instagram.com...Wz_fjFG93/
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Reply #153 posted 04/09/18 7:03am

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pinkcashmere23 said:

amethyst68 said:

Mayte attended many of Prince shows throughout the years after their divorce. You may have only heard about the one she tweeted about be she attended many of his shows before and after the tweet so highly publicized by fans.

She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?

He left before they could speak falloff

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Reply #154 posted 04/09/18 8:56am

amethyst68

pinkcashmere23 said:



amethyst68 said:




FlyOnTheWall said:



So, Mayte is the sole source for the reported phone call? BTW, did she and Dr. Funk ever go to an LA show? Also, was it at the show that he reportedly made Mayte pay to attend where they reportedly hugged?

There is a thread about Mayte's FB post complaining that he made her pay. It's called, "Mayte post on fb about Prince charging her to see him play (now updated with new post by her)." Here's the link: http://prince.org/msg/5/359910. If the link doesn't work, you can cut and paste the URL into your browser.




Mayte attended many of Prince shows throughout the years after their divorce. You may have only heard about the one she tweeted about be she attended many of his shows before and after the tweet so highly publicized by fans.



She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?



She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.
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Reply #155 posted 04/09/18 9:03am

pinkcashmere23

amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?

She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.

Ok,thanks! I had not heard her mention it before and I could hardly hear her over the translator.Did she say what year that this took place and when the last show was that she attended?

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Reply #156 posted 04/09/18 10:12am

FlyOnTheWall

amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?

She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.

It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.

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Reply #157 posted 04/09/18 11:43am

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FlyOnTheWall said:



amethyst68 said:


pinkcashmere23 said:


She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?



She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.

It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.



I don’t want to hurt anybody today. That’s all I know.
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Reply #158 posted 04/09/18 12:17pm

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I so wish I could be able to afford to go.

Latin said:

206Michelle said:

C

Source: https://www.rollingstone....nt-w517090 and https://www.facebook.com/...7216206022

(I used the image from Rolling Stone because it is bigger.)

Thanks for posting. Mayte posted the following on Instagram with that Celebration 2018 image: "If you aren’t coming ... I hope you do. There will be nothing but love there! #princecelebration2018 I’m looking forward to seeing you and my purple family ! #eternallove #family #themostbeautiful #npg4life #paisleypark" Here it is: https://www.instagram.com...Wz_fjFG93/

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Reply #159 posted 04/09/18 2:49pm

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amethyst68 said:

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I think people feel sympathy for Mayte because of what she went through with Prince and the loss of her Son and etc. A lot of people don't feel the same way about M2 because Prince gave her a generous divorce settlement, so there is a lot of people who are bitter, and they are gonna side with M1. I'm not one of them.

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"I love you, but I don't trust U anymore" -- I think Prince wrote that because that is how he was feeling after his breakup/divorce with Mayte. Perhaps he always did still love her, from afar -- but he came to the hard realization that it was officially over and he could not trust her anymore; he moved on. Sometimes, love is not enough. Been there, done that. wink

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I agree with what you said about Hollywood Exes. nod

The song you're talking about was recorded a year before they divorced and while they were still very much married. He didn't come to the realization their marriage was over. He was still telling interviewers and fans their relationship was stronger than ever and they'd be together forever despite cheating on his wife and quoting Jehovah's Witness doctrine at the same time. No man goes around talking about his wife if he knows she's cheating on him or if he thinks they're headed to divorce court. And, no man, will say in a press conference he and his wife remain friends and still see each other, if he had any doubts about the kind of woman she was. Hence, the reason, he said nothing about Manuela, not a word, after packing her things and locking her out of their home in 2005.

You folks are funny. You make up you're own stories about what happened between these two people and ignore what was actually occurring at the time. Prince was THE reason for the demise of his first marriage and he knew it and his marriage to Manuela was nothing but a rebound marriage in an attempt to forget the pain of losing his child and the woman he called the love of his life. No one feels sympathy for Manuela because of what they know about her. Do your research.

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Of course Prince isn't going to tell the press that is marriage is on the rocks. He was a private person. Fact is, they were having marital problems when they lost their newborn son, not years later. Mayte knew the type of man Prince was; and he was not a "one woman" man. This is not news to any of us.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #160 posted 04/09/18 2:54pm

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206Michelle said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I concur. After I saw the way Mayte behaved on Hollywood Exes, that told me everything that I needed to know about her. Prince had nothing to do with her for nearly 20-years, and right up until his untimely passing. To me, that speaks in volumes about how he felt about her. When she said "I didn't get any PR money"; well, there ya go!! Look at her behavior "before" and "after Prince's death, and you get what I'm saying here. I don't hate Mayte, but I don't have to like her either. She can easily fool some people, but she's not fooling me. If Prince was just a regular guy, she wouldn't be doing any of this, because she would have nothing to gain. I wish her the best; I really do. I hope she can move on, at some point, for her own sake. Prince will always be her cash cow, sadly. sad

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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Bottom line is; Mayte knew Prince's cheating ways. No one forced her to stay in a unhappy marriage. She could have went home to her parents at any time. If she did not contest the divorce or hire a good attorney to fight it out in court, then who's to blame? People get divorced every day. I think Maybe was a very young and naive girl, and I blame her parents for putting her into a difficult situation like that. It's all water over the dam now.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #161 posted 04/09/18 3:06pm

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cloveringold85 said:

206Michelle said:

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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Bottom line is; Mayte knew Prince's cheating ways. No one forced her to stay in a unhappy marriage. She could have went home to her parents at any time. If she did not contest the divorce or hire a good attorney to fight it out in court, then who's to blame? People get divorced every day. I think Maybe was a very young and naive girl, and I blame her parents for putting her into a difficult situation like that. It's all water over the dam now.

The demise of her marriage had nothing to do with his cheating ways but everything to do with Jehovah's Witness. She asked him for the divorce and wasn't complaining about the divorce settlement. She made the choice not to sue for more than he offered because she didn't want his money, she wanted her husband. Age has nothing to do with what those two people went through.

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Reply #162 posted 04/09/18 3:09pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.

It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.

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It's not like they chatted and hung-out regularly, as friends.

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Reply #163 posted 04/09/18 4:30pm

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cloveringold85 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.

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It's not like they chatted and hung-out regularly, as friends.

That's true.He may have felt it would be awkward meeting with her in that setting.

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Reply #164 posted 04/09/18 4:58pm

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Notice how in the title Prince and Mayte are in ALL CAPS?! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #165 posted 04/09/18 5:27pm

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cloveringold85 said:




FlyOnTheWall said:



It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.



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It's not like they chatted and hung-out regularly, as friends.




That's true.He may have felt it would be awkward meeting with her in that setting.




Yes I find it weird that he left. Let his bandmate down. He couldn’t muster to perform in front of her. Wtheck!!!
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Reply #166 posted 04/09/18 5:28pm

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cloveringold85 said:

Notice how in the title Prince and Mayte are in ALL CAPS?! lol






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Reply #167 posted 04/09/18 5:35pm

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purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

That's true.He may have felt it would be awkward meeting with her in that setting.

Yes I find it weird that he left. Let his bandmate down. He couldn’t muster to perform in front of her. Wtheck!!!

I agree.I'd like to know what year it was to have a better idea of what may have been going on at the time

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Reply #168 posted 04/09/18 6:00pm

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Reply #169 posted 04/09/18 6:49pm

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I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

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You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Mayte stated in her book on pp. 282-283 that she heard "through the grapevine" in January 2016 that Prince wasn't doing well. Mayte reached out to Randee St. Nicholas and Randee reassured Mayte that Prince was okay. Then when she went to auction off a few of his items, Prince's lawyer called Mayte and she asked him how he was doing, and the lawyer told Mayte, "He's fine".

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Reply #170 posted 04/09/18 8:43pm

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shake lol lol

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Reply #171 posted 04/09/18 9:27pm

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Well if all this is true than I am glad to hear it but i dont know why a photographer or lawyer would be good people to ask. in her defense, maybe those are the only people she could ask. maybe she chose to auction stuff that particular month because she partly wanted to get a reaction from him or his people so she could inquire about him.

206Michelle said:

purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

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Mayte stated in her book on pp. 282-283 that she heard "through the grapevine" in January 2016 that Prince wasn't doing well. Mayte reached out to Randee St. Nicholas and Randee reassured Mayte that Prince was okay. Then when she went to auction off a few of his items, Prince's lawyer called Mayte and she asked him how he was doing, and the lawyer told Mayte, "He's fine".

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Reply #172 posted 04/09/18 11:09pm

amethyst68

purplerabbithole said:

Well if all this is true than I am glad to hear it but i dont know why a photographer or lawyer would be good people to ask. in her defense, maybe those are the only people she could ask. maybe she chose to auction stuff that particular month because she partly wanted to get a reaction from him or his people so she could inquire about him.



206Michelle said:




purplerabbithole said:


I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)




As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.



She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.



I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.




As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..






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Mayte stated in her book on pp. 282-283 that she heard "through the grapevine" in January 2016 that Prince wasn't doing well. Mayte reached out to Randee St. Nicholas and Randee reassured Mayte that Prince was okay. Then when she went to auction off a few of his items, Prince's lawyer called Mayte and she asked him how he was doing, and the lawyer told Mayte, "He's fine".






That’s not quite how auctions are planned. The auction was planned several months prior and she wasn’t the only person auctioning Prince stuff.
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Reply #173 posted 04/10/18 3:32am

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I know other people were auctioning. (his old manager I believe) and according to her, he was mad at him for auctioning stuff he never gave him and not mad at her. But there is also a dude working for the auctioneering house who said that Prince was upset about her selling his old stuff (or he thought Prince was going to be upset and said so to Mayte--I can't remember which) and that she just blew it off. The guy's statements have been denied by her and that Dave dude she hangs with. So who knows the truth. But I wish she had cancelled the auction however -- I can't imagine what was in her mind or if she believed the re-assurances of a busy, occasional photographer of his and a lawyer mouthpiece or if she was even allowed to cancel, but it doesnt look good to auction the stuff of a man who people were saying was not doing so great a month before he sucuumbs to an overdose. I don't have the source for the auctioneer story, but I did remember it being linked on his site and discussed. Someone can correct me if I am wrong. But really who knows. I don't know what to think about a lot of this stuff.

amethyst68 said:

purplerabbithole said:

Well if all this is true than I am glad to hear it but i dont know why a photographer or lawyer would be good people to ask. in her defense, maybe those are the only people she could ask. maybe she chose to auction stuff that particular month because she partly wanted to get a reaction from him or his people so she could inquire about him.

That’s not quite how auctions are planned. The auction was planned several months prior and she wasn’t the only person auctioning Prince stuff.

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Reply #174 posted 04/10/18 4:14am

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I don't believe that she has auctioned off anything. Owen Husney had some stuff in that same auction, Prince threatened to sue the auction house over Owen's things, NOT Mayte's. The auction house got scared and pulled everything Prince from the auction. So nothing of Mayte's was sold at that time, and I do not think she has participated in an auctions since.



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I think she brought into the Dana’s Prince sold like a record about soulmates. She did not Get treated like a soulmate when she had to steal food from room service carts, or sneak out to eat meat. Can’t leave the house because he might call? Really. If shevdid call Prince she could have hitting a hit single for Say My Name. Prince didn’t wait for mayte to turn eighteen because he was a gentleman, he did not want to get sued. Wait is the wrong term because he filled his time with Nona Gayle and a dozen others. I hope one day she can really move on and have a good relationship with a man who treats her as an equal not an employee, project or pocession
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Reply #176 posted 04/10/18 4:58am

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littlemissG said:

I think she brought into the Dana’s Prince sold like a record about soulmates. She did not Get treated like a soulmate when she had to steal food from room service carts, or sneak out to eat meat. Can’t leave the house because he might call? Really. If shevdid call Prince she could have hitting a hit single for Say My Name. Prince didn’t wait for mayte to turn eighteen because he was a gentleman, he did not want to get sued. Wait is the wrong term because he filled his time with Nona Gayle and a dozen others. I hope one day she can really move on and have a good relationship with a man who treats her as an equal not an employee, project or pocession


For the record, Nona Gaye is younger than Mayte. Second of all, Nona was no competition for Mayte. Nor were any of the women he messed around with. Prince was a whore, without a doubt, but he made it clear to all of the women he fooled around with who was number one in his book. He was a rock star. In my opinion, she was the best match for him because she understood it and knew at the end of the day where his heart was. That’s probably the reason she was with him the longest out of all the women he ever dated. He also made it a point to publicly announce where his heart was. There was no mistake about that. I think she “moved on” long time ago and so did he but when you have the kind of connection they had and experienced what they experienced together, that person is always a part of you. That’s apparent by the stories being told now by his close associates about how he always talked about her. Read the lyrics to “X’s Face.”
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Reply #177 posted 04/10/18 7:11am

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Fly, did you see the September 2017 issue of the Journal of African American Studies?

Latin posted the info before Christmas and the download links were removed for a few weeks, however, the links appear to be back up. You can pick and choose which articles are of interest as each has its own link.

I know it's not a book but this is a respected journal that chose to dedicate an entire issue to Prince, so I wanted to make sure that you knew about it.

Happy Reading! biggrin

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206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Mayte is not the only one and it’s not fair to single out her. Kim Berry is doing an event called “Glam Slam Beauty Day with Kim Berry” on April 19 at the Chanhassen Rec Center. She posted the flyer for this event on her Instagram this week. The event requires a deposit. Mayte wrote a book. Devin Devasquez a book. Steve Park made a book. Afshin Shahidi made a book. The Revolution are touring. NPG members, such as Shelby J., are touring and promoting Prince. Rolling Stone, Billboard, and other publications have made special Prince issues. People are selling out-of-print Prince or prince albums for hundreds of dollars on eBay. . People are trying to keep Prince’s memory alive, and there is a cost involved in sharing one’s time, traveling, organizing events, and so forth. [Edited 4/5/18 22:04pm]

I think Kim Berry's Glam Slam event is totally different from Mayte's Q & A Stageit. Totally. She is providing a service. The woman was Prince's personal stylist for almost three decades. They will be doing hair, make-up, eyelashes, etc. These are services that women (and men) pay for all the time. That is vastly different than Mayte putting on a Stageit where she is charging an unlimited number of people from around the world (via the internet) $25 for a Q & A session ABOUT PRINCE (not that it would be any better if was just ONE person). She's like, "On Prince, I'll dish...but pay me bish!!"

Kim is using her VOCATION to provide a service to Prince fams who want to get glammed up by P's stylist...and her services are not cheap. And, why shouldn't she charge a deposit???? She truly has a limited number of available slots, so the deposit discourages no-shows. That is different from the Stageit marketing tactic of saying that a small number of tickets are available, only to continue to add more as each batch sells out.

Lastly, as a bibliophile, depending on the content of the book, I don't see anything wrong with SOME books. I love the photo books. I would even love to see books that shed light on his early life and career...or those that paint a portrait of the man behind the purple veil. But, I don't like tell-alls about his love life and I don't want to know how big his eggplant was or any of that business, if you know what I mean. Fam speculation, like here on The Org, is one thing, but that still leaves the mystery intact.

What's missing, IMHO, are well-researched SCHOLARLY books on Prince Rogers Nelson. I think there will be a wave of those in coming years.

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Reply #178 posted 04/10/18 8:37am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: She’s mentioned it several times. She went to a club and Prince was supposed to be accompanying one of his band members performing that night. He saw she was there and left without performing.

It sure sounds like he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.

Maybe it's too many painful memories.

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Reply #179 posted 04/10/18 8:54am

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amethyst68 said:

littlemissG said:
I think she brought into the Dana’s Prince sold like a record about soulmates. She did not Get treated like a soulmate when she had to steal food from room service carts, or sneak out to eat meat. Can’t leave the house because he might call? Really. If shevdid call Prince she could have hitting a hit single for Say My Name. Prince didn’t wait for mayte to turn eighteen because he was a gentleman, he did not want to get sued. Wait is the wrong term because he filled his time with Nona Gayle and a dozen others. I hope one day she can really move on and have a good relationship with a man who treats her as an equal not an employee, project or pocession
For the record, Nona Gaye is younger than Mayte. Second of all, Nona was no competition for Mayte. Nor were any of the women he messed around with. Prince was a whore, without a doubt, but he made it clear to all of the women he fooled around with who was number one in his book. He was a rock star. In my opinion, she was the best match for him because she understood it and knew at the end of the day where his heart was. That’s probably the reason she was with him the longest out of all the women he ever dated. He also made it a point to publicly announce where his heart was. There was no mistake about that. I think she “moved on” long time ago and so did he but when you have the kind of connection they had and experienced what they experienced together, that person is always a part of you. That’s apparent by the stories being told now by his close associates about how he always talked about her. Read the lyrics to “X’s Face.”

I think that Prince found inspiration in other women after her, as well as possibly still drawing from his relationship with Mayte.Dr Funk said in a podcast that the unreleased song Gingerbread Man was inspired by Bria and later Misty Copeland,turning it into U Will B for her.Andy also said in a FB chat in 2013 that he wrote some songs about her as well.I loved Prince and Mayte when they were together but I gave up on the hope of a reconciliation after they saw each other and hugged at his show in Vegas in 2006.I realized after that it probably wasn't going to happen.It also became obvious to me that he was dating Bria shortly after.I think what Dr F said about Prince still having feelings for Mayte is probably true and we know that he spoke often about her from what Lala and Shelby have said.Honestly,a few lines of X's Face makes me think that it may be about Andy.

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