but if she needs money so desparately why not sell used panties...that would make more money | |
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Why does Kim need to attach Prince's name and her history with him to any event like this that she does? She could just say "Stylist to the Stars" and leave it at that yet she's using Prince's name to increase interest in her. . And I say all the above not to critisize Kim - I'm trying to point out how your argument seems hypocritical and cherrypicking certain people where it's OK for them to use an association or relationship with Prince to "cash in" as you say, yet for others (those you don't like) it's not OK. An old soul | |
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Hmm. Interesting suggestion. Have you done that? [Edited 4/7/18 10:23am] An old soul | |
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LilaLiebe said:
Why does Kim need to attach Prince's name and her history with him to any event like this that she does? She could just say "Stylist to the Stars" and leave it at that yet she's using Prince's name to increase interest in her. . And I say all the above not to critisize Kim - I'm trying to point out how your argument seems hypocritical and cherrypicking certain people where it's OK for them to use an association or relationship with Prince to "cash in" as you say, yet for others (those you don't like) it's not OK. This is true, old soul. Many people are associating events with Prince this month. Kim’s price is very high (I know she has an expertise to offer others and the product will cost $), so what’s the difference? I believe Mayte is doing a belly dancing class before or after her event or at some point in the week, and she also has a real talent to offer to people where they get involved. I think the basic idea is fun, and creativity, which honors Prince. He loved both Mayte’s dancing and Kim’s hair styling. The bottom line is people get to choose whatever they want to participate in, and as I pointed out after doing the numbers on the previous page, Mayte will likely make very little of anything, after plane fare, hotel (for 2 if she’s bringing her daughter), and the venue. Maybe she just wants to be involved. There’s nothing wrong with that. [Edited 4/7/18 11:01am] | |
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This thread......LOL .
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Anyone who thinks Mayte is doing ANYTHING Prince-related because "she just wants to be involved," is either naive or disingenuous. The reality is this: There's gold in them there hills. | |
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"Seems" is the operative word in your statement, LilaLiebe. My disdain for Mayte began after I watched Hollywood Exes, particularly the episode when she was lamenting the fact that she didn't have the lifestyle of the ex-wives of Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, R. Kelly, etc. BTW, I watched this after Prince's passing. Prior to that viewing, I had been feeling very sympathetic for her. For me, it was hearing her say that she didn't get Purple Rain money that let me know that she was bitter about her divorce settlement from Prince. But, the most awful part was when she said, "My child died, so I didn't get child support." That did it for me. | |
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FlyOnTheWall said: Anyone who thinks Mayte is doing ANYTHING Prince-related because "she just wants to be involved," is either naive or disingenuous. The reality is this: There's gold in them there hills. Mayte is not the only associate who wants to earn a living... Come on now... Some people are just better at hiding it. Fame is just as big a motive with many. [Edited 4/7/18 15:51pm] | |
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anangellooksdown said: FlyOnTheWall said: Anyone who thinks Mayte is doing ANYTHING Prince-related because "she just wants to be involved," is either naive or disingenuous. The reality is this: There's gold in them there hills. Mayte is not the only associate who wants to earn a living... Come on now... Some people are just better at hiding it. Fame is just as big a motive with many. [Edited 4/7/18 15:51pm] Who cares what they make, what they charge etc.? Mayte is entitled to share her life with Prince. | |
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"Seems" is the operative word in your statement, LilaLiebe. My disdain for Mayte began after I watched Hollywood Exes, particularly the episode when she was lamenting the fact that she didn't have the lifestyle of the ex-wives of Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, R. Kelly, etc. BTW, I watched this after Prince's passing. Prior to that viewing, I had been feeling very sympathetic for her. For me, it was hearing her say that she didn't get Purple Rain money that let me know that she was bitter about her divorce settlement from Prince. But, the most awful part was when she said, "My child died, so I didn't get child support." That did it for me. FOTW, So because you dislike Mayte, it appears that you feel the need to discredit her and shoot her down at every possible opportunity, focusing only on her status as Prince’s ex-wife (and, at times, the mother of his only child), while minimizing the fact that she was a member of his band, the NPG, for several years. It appears that you have more of a problem with Mayte than Prince’s own family members do. After all, Mayte was able to attend Prince’s private funeral, she participated in the BET Tribute and the tribute concert for him in October 2016, and she’s an invited guest at this year’s Celebration at PP. . Prince was a grown man. If he didn’t like Mayte being on Hollywood Exes, he could have paid her to leave the show or sued her...as far as I know, he did neither of those actions. Throwing Prince’s ex-wife/son’s mother/former muse/former band member “under the bus” doesn’t do anything to defend his legacy. Mayte is a prominent woman in the Purple Universe, whether you like it or not. She was in his concerts. She’s in his music videoes. She’s on the cover of the album. She inspired numerous songs of his. She’s all over the Emancipation album. The man was quite clear about her influence on him and his music; the interviews, music, and concerts, among other items, are available. . There are better ways to spend one’s time than showing disdain for someone. Prince was all about promoting Love 4 One Another, not disdain 4 one another. [Edited 4/7/18 17:40pm] Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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You are taking that stuff from Hollywood Ex's slightly out of context. The other chicks were angry she didn't go to some event. She defended herself by saying that she couldn't get her folks to watch her kid so she couldn't go. The other ladies thought it was just an excuse and yelled at her. She got angry and talked about her lack of funds for babysitters -- reminding them that she wasn't rich like them. they didn't buy it and stated that she just wanted to hang with her boyfriend instead of going and was using the lack of a babysitter as an excuse. My beef with that interaction is that a woman on a reality show gets paid and probably could afford a babysitter so therefore should not go throwing around her lack of child support or prince alimony as an excuse. It might have been trumped up drama but wasn't a pretty moment(especially dropping a reference to her deceased kid in there). We are all human though. I actually think she and Prince probably had a lot in common...in their own little worlds. LIke that funny scene when she got angry at a woman for wearing a fur coat while she herself was sitting on a leather chair. But we don't always think things through thoroughly in the heat of the moment..
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There are people out there who have made it their mission to Bring her down hate pages on Instagram and Youtube videos throwing her under the bus over and over People will alwaus be interested in hearing what she has to say.. There is NO Doubt HE Loved her... He never named anyone else as his SOul Mate... I can only imagne how much she loves him.. I mean..I LOVE HIM and I never even met him... Sending her Love and Blessings... Cant be easy being HER..
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Well said, Lovejunky! Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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I just think the outrage is selective here on the Org. It's okay for certain associates to do things for profit, but not others. I can't count the times I've seen threads and posts dragging this associate or the other for "cashing in" or "pimping" Prince's memory. Be it for books, auctions, you name it. Yet, Mayte gets a pass and I am a bad person for pointing out the facts???
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. I concur. After I saw the way Mayte behaved on Hollywood Exes, that told me everything that I needed to know about her. Prince had nothing to do with her for nearly 20-years, and right up until his untimely passing. To me, that speaks in volumes about how he felt about her. When she said "I didn't get any PR money"; well, there ya go!! Look at her behavior "before" and "after Prince's death, and you get what I'm saying here. I don't hate Mayte, but I don't have to like her either. She can easily fool some people, but she's not fooling me. If Prince was just a regular guy, she wouldn't be doing any of this, because she would have nothing to gain. I wish her the best; I really do. I hope she can move on, at some point, for her own sake. Prince will always be her cash cow, sadly.
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. I think people feel sympathy for Mayte because of what she went through with Prince and the loss of her Son and etc. A lot of people don't feel the same way about M2 because Prince gave her a generous divorce settlement, so there is a lot of people who are bitter, and they are gonna side with M1. I'm not one of them. . "I love you, but I don't trust U anymore" -- I think Prince wrote that because that is how he was feeling after his breakup/divorce with Mayte. Perhaps he always did still love her, from afar -- but he came to the hard realization that it was officially over and he could not trust her anymore; he moved on. Sometimes, love is not enough. Been there, done that. . I agree with what you said about Hollywood Exes.
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Prince moved on with Mani while he was still married. | |
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They may have both had trust issues with one another. we don't have his side. NOt saying she necessarily did anything in particular to not be trusted but its about perspective.
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. I concur. After I saw the way Mayte behaved on Hollywood Exes, that told me everything that I needed to know about her. Prince had nothing to do with her for nearly 20-years, and right up until his untimely passing. To me, that speaks in volumes about how he felt about her. When she said "I didn't get any PR money"; well, there ya go!! Look at her behavior "before" and "after Prince's death, and you get what I'm saying here. I don't hate Mayte, but I don't have to like her either. She can easily fool some people, but she's not fooling me. If Prince was just a regular guy, she wouldn't be doing any of this, because she would have nothing to gain. I wish her the best; I really do. I hope she can move on, at some point, for her own sake. Prince will always be her cash cow, sadly.
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The song you're talking about was recorded a year before they divorced and while they were still very much married. He didn't come to the realization their marriage was over. He was still telling interviewers and fans their relationship was stronger than ever and they'd be together forever despite cheating on his wife and quoting Jehovah's Witness doctrine at the same time. No man goes around talking about his wife if he knows she's cheating on him or if he thinks they're headed to divorce court. And, no man, will say in a press conference he and his wife remain friends and still see each other, if he had any doubts about the kind of woman she was. Hence, the reason, he said nothing about Manuela, not a word, after packing her things and locking her out of their home in 2005.
You folks are funny. You make up you're own stories about what happened between these two people and ignore what was actually occurring at the time. Prince was THE reason for the demise of his first marriage and he knew it and his marriage to Manuela was nothing but a rebound marriage in an attempt to forget the pain of losing his child and the woman he called the love of his life. No one feels sympathy for Manuela because of what they know about her. Do your research. [Edited 4/8/18 13:45pm] | |
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There's evidence to the contrary. | |
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Okay. Please cite links to said evidence. Thanks in advance. | |
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Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point. . He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife. . Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for . . In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997. . Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage. . made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.
. He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.
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Mayte wrote him a letter in November 2006. He called her in response to the letter. He invited her to one of his shows during his 3121 Las Vegas Residency in 2006. The show took place on her birthday in November 12, 2006. This is per pages 270-271 of The Most Beautiful. . Also, on the Dr. Funk podcast from September 14, 2016, Dr. Funk talks about how we wanted to take Mayte to a Prince show in 2011 in LA, but she wouldn't agree to go with Dr. Funk until she spoke with Prince first. He mentions this within the first 20 minutes of the 09/14/2016 podcast. [Edited 4/8/18 16:01pm] Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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Was it 2007 that she was at the show in Vegas and they hugged? I thought it was in 2006. | |
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Yes, 2006...the 2007s were typos, my bad. I fixed my original post. Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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So, Mayte is the sole source for the reported phone call? BTW, did she and Dr. Funk ever go to an LA show? Also, was it at the show that he reportedly made Mayte pay to attend where they reportedly hugged? | |
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Okay. Please cite links to said evidence. Thanks in advance. You're telling to point out evidence?! Whatever you and your buddy's agenda remains a mystery but I can put my hand on a Bible and say that what you're sellinng is unequivocally false. Will I ever reveal how I know that, absolutely NOT. There's nothing wrong with analyzing but you have to acknowledge that you weren't there. You base things on what and how you want things to appear. Just remember this; your banal gossipy banter might be read by someone who knows and that banality is not so banal to that person. | |
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