disch said:

Oh I doubt that's it. Honestly, I just don't that many people here find their romance as interesting, exciting, whatever as the romances from the 80s and 90s. I say that based on the people contributing to that Andy Allo thread: pretty much every post was under your screenname or Pink's screenname.

FlyOnTheWall said:

You act like they are posting about NEW news and photos on the appreciation threads for M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen, etc. Let's be honest: There is something VERY ugly going on here on The Org when it comes to Prince's relationship with Andy, both professional and personal. It seems that some would like to just erase their pairing. Why? That is something the haters need to ask themselves...while looking in a mirror.

With almost 12,000 views there seems to be some interest there,Though Fly,sharpie and myself were the main contributors.A few others were posting some photos as well.I was trying to mainly focus on their professional relationship and the music they made,as well as Andy's solo career but talk did occasionally shift to their romantic relationship when photos and articles that were suggestive of that were posted.

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disch said:

Oh I doubt that's it. Honestly, I just don't that many people here find their romance as interesting, exciting, whatever as the romances from the 80s and 90s. I say that based on the people contributing to that Andy Allo thread: pretty much every post was under your screenname or Pink's screenname.

FlyOnTheWall said:

You act like they are posting about NEW news and photos on the appreciation threads for M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen, etc. Let's be honest: There is something VERY ugly going on here on The Org when it comes to Prince's relationship with Andy, both professional and personal. It seems that some would like to just erase their pairing. Why? That is something the haters need to ask themselves...while looking in a mirror.

Mostly, the same set of people are posting on each of the respective appreciation threads, based on their interests. So, what's so different about the Andy thread? And, I'd say there is plenty of interest. Last time I looked, there were almost 12,000 views on that thread...even though, it was already locked and pulled for several days once before.

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake (what i mean by fake: One of you would often claim the whatever the other had just posted was a new revelation to you, which is highly implausible).

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I don't know what your motivation is for these andy allo threads (you could always orgnote with Pink about her). But some changes in the way you post might make your threads seem more sincere and less weird.

pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Oh I doubt that's it. Honestly, I just don't that many people here find their romance as interesting, exciting, whatever as the romances from the 80s and 90s. I say that based on the people contributing to that Andy Allo thread: pretty much every post was under your screenname or Pink's screenname.

With almost 12,000 views there seems to be some interest there,Though Fly,sharpie and myself were the main contributors.A few others were posting some photos as well.I was trying to mainly focus on their professional relationship and the music they made as well as Andy's solo career but talk did occasionally shift to their romantic relationship when photos and articles that were suggestive of that were posted.

[Edited 4/2/18 9:31am]

disch said:

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake. I think you could make some changes to the way you post, and it wouldn't come off that way.

pinkcashmere23 said:

With almost 12,000 views there seems to be some interest there,Though Fly,sharpie and myself were the main contributors.A few others were posting some photos as well.I was trying to mainly focus on their professional relationship and the music they made as well as Andy's solo career but talk did occasionally shift to their romantic relationship when photos and articles that were suggestive of that were posted.

I only posted facts that I knew of their relationship or evidence presented by either Prince or Andy.After watching footage of the shows from summer 2011,Prince was very obvious about how he felt about Andy and was going out of his way to let everyone know it.

Right that's already been established!! They had a romance several years ago! That's not a new revelation and as I've said a few times, I don't think discussing their romance is off-limits that I can see.

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Talking about their romance is not why your thread came off, to me at least, as creepy and fake.

pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake. I think you could make some changes to the way you post, and it wouldn't come off that way.

I only posted facts that I knew of their relationship or evidence presented by either Prince or Andy.After watching footage of the shows from summer 2011,Prince was very obvious about how he felt about Andy and was going out of his way to let everyone know it.

disch said:

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake. I think you could make some changes to the way you post, and it wouldn't come off that way.

pinkcashmere23 said:

With almost 12,000 views there seems to be some interest there,Though Fly,sharpie and myself were the main contributors.A few others were posting some photos as well.I was trying to mainly focus on their professional relationship and the music they made as well as Andy's solo career but talk did occasionally shift to their romantic relationship when photos and articles that were suggestive of that were posted.

Well, I'm calling BULL. There is nothing "creepy" about that thread. It is mostly photos, interviews, and news reports. What is "creepy" is how some of you react to any mention of Prince and Andy. It is SICK.

disch said:

Right that's already been established!! They had a romance several years ago! That's not a new revelation and as I've said a few times, I don't think discussing their romance is off-limits that I can see.

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Talking about their romance is not why your thread came off, to me at least, as creepy and fake.

pinkcashmere23 said:

I only posted facts that I knew of their relationship or evidence presented by either Prince or Andy.After watching footage of the shows from summer 2011,Prince was very obvious about how he felt about Andy and was going out of his way to let everyone know it.

Nothing about M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen, etc. that is posted over and over and over is new either. Besides which, Price divorced and pretty much ex-communicated M1 and M2 DECADES AGO, yet it's okay to post appreciation threads for/about them perpetually??? So, why is news of Prince and Andy, his last confirmed girlfriend, received and treated differently? Can we be honest??

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Well, i can speak for myself. I have no problem with Andy (she seems lovely and they seemed to have had a very sweet and meaningful relationship). Their relationship isn't what gave me a weird vibe about that thread (similar to the other threads you and pink have make on this topic).

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Something obviously caught a moderator's eye about it. I have no idea about that. Why don't you orgnote a moderator? And in the meantime, can't you and pink continue to orgnote each other with pictures and videos?

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake. I think you could make some changes to the way you post, and it wouldn't come off that way.

Well, I'm calling BULL. There is nothing "creepy" about that thread. It is mostly photos, interviews, and news reports. What is "creepy" is how some of you react to any mention of Prince and Andy. It is SICK.

disch said:

Well, i can speak for myself. I have no problem with Andy (she seems lovely and they seemed to have had a very sweet and meaningful relationship). Their relationship isn't what gave me a weird vibe about that thread (similar to the other threads you and pink have make on this topic).

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Something obviously caught a moderator's eye about it. I have no idea about that. Why don't you orgnote a moderator? And in the meantime, can't you and pink continue to orgnote each other with pictures and videos?

FlyOnTheWall said:

Well, I'm calling BULL. There is nothing "creepy" about that thread. It is mostly photos, interviews, and news reports. What is "creepy" is how some of you react to any mention of Prince and Andy. It is SICK.

Do you say the same thing about the M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen threads? Of course not!!! You just want to sweep Prince and Andy's relationship under a rug. Why? In fact, why don't we just all orgnote each other about everything having to do with Prince and his associates? I mean, why even have discussion forums? Right??

disch said:

Again, my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with talking about their romance that I can see (plenty of posts about romances). But to me as a reader, the thread came off as creepy and frankly fake (what i mean by fake: One of you would often claim the whatever the other had just posted was a new revelation to you, which is highly implausible).

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I don't know what your motivation is for these andy allo threads (you could always orgnote with Pink about her). But some changes in the way you post might make your threads seem more sincere and less weird.

pinkcashmere23 said:

With almost 12,000 views there seems to be some interest there,Though Fly,sharpie and myself were the main contributors.A few others were posting some photos as well.I was trying to mainly focus on their professional relationship and the music they made as well as Andy's solo career but talk did occasionally shift to their romantic relationship when photos and articles that were suggestive of that were posted.

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If you're talking about the Ana Moura post where we were discussing the show of hers that Prince and Andy attended,there was some honest debate going on there and Fly's Star Tribune article cleared it up.That's the only occurrence of that kind that I remember.Unless you're referring to the post that Fly made about their first meeting and we were speculating on whether Prince was aware of Andy before their meeting since he seemed to recognize her and choose her to dance with.sharpieheartz also cleared up a few things.There are several supporters of their relationship from what I have seen and discussion of it doesn't really hurt anything.What Prince presented himself made many speculate and wonder what was going on with them personally.

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I didn't say anything about those threads because they didn't read to me as fake and creepy. This one did. I've told you why: you and pink had comments in there that seemed like you were being insincere, claiming that you "didn't know!" whatever thing the other had said a few minutes before, when obviously you did (you've posted, at this point, probably thousands of comments about Andy Allo on multiple threads. I can't imagine there's any info out there that's actually news to you). And just the quantity of posts under your 2 screenname seemed obsessive and smacked of "bumping." And yes, it had views, but it had fewer views than most threads of that length have.

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I dunno if anyone else felt that way or not. And I didn't spend too much time looking at this thread because it the tone and frequency of the posts by the 2 of you was weird.

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I'm not a moderator and had nothing to do with the thread's removal, so rather than discuss it with me, maybe bring it up with a moderator?

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FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Well, i can speak for myself. I have no problem with Andy (she seems lovely and they seemed to have had a very sweet and meaningful relationship). Their relationship isn't what gave me a weird vibe about that thread (similar to the other threads you and pink have make on this topic).

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Something obviously caught a moderator's eye about it. I have no idea about that. Why don't you orgnote a moderator? And in the meantime, can't you and pink continue to orgnote each other with pictures and videos?

Do you say the same thing about the M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen threads? Of course not!!! You just want to sweep Prince and Andy's relationship under a rug. Why? In fact, why don't we just all orgnote each other about everything having to do with Prince and his associates? I mean, why even have discussion forums? Right??

[Edited 4/2/18 9:55am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Right that's already been established!! They had a romance several years ago! That's not a new revelation and as I've said a few times, I don't think discussing their romance is off-limits that I can see.

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Talking about their romance is not why your thread came off, to me at least, as creepy and fake.

Nothing about M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen, etc. that is posted over and over and over is new either. Besides which, Price divorced and pretty much ex-communicated M1 and M2 DECADES AGO, yet it's okay to post appreciation threads for/about them perpetually??? So, why is news of Prince and Andy, his last confirmed girlfriend, received and treated differently? Can we be honest??

[Edited 4/2/18 9:50am]

Right.Prince was also still actively focusing on Andy with tweets about her,the premiere of the Oui Can Luv project at PP,leaving her photo up and performing the songs they wrote and sang together as well.Prince was still very much putting her front and center.

disch said:

I didn't say anything about those threads because they didn't read to me as fake and creepy. This one did. I've told you why: you and pink had comments in there that seemed like you were being insincere, claiming that you "didn't know!" whatever thing the other had said a few minutes before, when obviously you did (you've posted, at this point, probably thousands of comments about Andy Allo on multiple threads. I can't imagine there's any info out there that's actually news to you).

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I dunno if anyone else felt that way or not. As I said, the moderator would have to tell you why the thread was removed.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you say the same thing about the M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen threads? Of course not!!! You just want to sweep Prince and Andy's relationship under a rug. Why? In fact, why don't we just all orgnote each other about everything having to do with Prince and his associates? I mean, why even have discussion forums? Right??

Do you know how you sound??? Who are you to tell people what they have or have not heard previously? GTFOHWTBS!!!!!

disch said:

I didn't say anything about those threads because they didn't read to me as fake and creepy. This one did. I've told you why: you and pink had comments in there that seemed like you were being insincere, claiming that you "didn't know!" whatever thing the other had said a few minutes before, when obviously you did (you've posted, at this point, probably thousands of comments about Andy Allo on multiple threads. I can't imagine there's any info out there that's actually news to you). And just the quantity of posts under your 2 screenname seemed obsessive and smacked of "bumping." And yes, it had views, but it had fewer views than most threads of that length have.

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I dunno if anyone else felt that way or not. And I didn't spend too much time looking at this thread because it the tone and frequency of the posts by the 2 of you was weird.

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I'm not a moderator and had nothing to do with the thread's removal, so rather than discuss it with me, maybe bring it up with a moderator?

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you say the same thing about the M1, M2, Vanity, Carmen threads? Of course not!!! You just want to sweep Prince and Andy's relationship under a rug. Why? In fact, why don't we just all orgnote each other about everything having to do with Prince and his associates? I mean, why even have discussion forums? Right??

[Edited 4/2/18 9:55am]

Why do you feel the need to state that you are not a moderator??? That's an odd remark. Moreover, I'm discussing it with you because you jumped into this ongoing discussion.

[Edited 4/2/18 10:00am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

Now DONT YOU START BULLYING people again, Fly.

You dig up an old Post we already saw on all the other 5,000 Andy threads then Pink has to “thank” you - always, or say, “Oh isn’t that amazing!” Like shes never seen it before.
Then Pink adds a “supposition” about the romance, and you bank off that with more posts and photos we’ve already seen many times in the past year, and it goes back and forth and bs k and forth, it’s not genuine, there are motives.
Then Pink again gasps and says “isn’t that something!”
Or thanks you.
It truly is like watching a private conversation.
Also to note: you both posted above at the same time (Fly hadn’t seen your list yet) that the thread had almost 12,000 views. You were both obviously really focused in that.
Msybe if you didn’t go about it as a competition (both of you), and Pink stopped trying to manipulate so much or get under people’s skin which she loves doing but is not able to do anymore , things would work out better.
[Edited 4/2/18 10:05am]

Fly, read what i said: That is how it came across TO ME! It read as fake. I can't say what you and/or pink are actually thinking, what your motivations for posting on this topic with this intensity, etc. All I can say is how it reads to me.

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Lordy, I made a mistake in jumping in here. I shoulda found another way to kill some time during my lunch break!

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

I didn't say anything about those threads because they didn't read to me as fake and creepy. This one did. I've told you why: you and pink had comments in there that seemed like you were being insincere, claiming that you "didn't know!" whatever thing the other had said a few minutes before, when obviously you did (you've posted, at this point, probably thousands of comments about Andy Allo on multiple threads. I can't imagine there's any info out there that's actually news to you).

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I dunno if anyone else felt that way or not. As I said, the moderator would have to tell you why the thread was removed.

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Do you know how you sound??? Who are you to tell people what they have or have not heard previously? GTFOHWTBS!!!!!

disch said:

Fly, read what i said: That is how it came across TO ME! It read as fake. I can't say what you and/or pink are actually thinking, what your motivations for posting on this topic with this intensity, etc. All I can say is how it reads to me.

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Lordy, I made a mistake in jumping in here. I shoulda found another way to kill some time during my lunch break!

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you know how you sound??? Who are you to tell people what they have or have not heard previously? GTFOHWTBS!!!!!

Finally, we agree.

disch said:

I’m outta here myself!
The thread will be returned soon and they can dive back into it.

The reason I'm saying I'm not a moderator is because I have no control over reactivating this thread, which I'm assuming is what you want to have happen. So arguing/debating with me won't get you anywhere on that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

I didn't say anything about those threads because they didn't read to me as fake and creepy. This one did. I've told you why: you and pink had comments in there that seemed like you were being insincere, claiming that you "didn't know!" whatever thing the other had said a few minutes before, when obviously you did (you've posted, at this point, probably thousands of comments about Andy Allo on multiple threads. I can't imagine there's any info out there that's actually news to you). And just the quantity of posts under your 2 screenname seemed obsessive and smacked of "bumping." And yes, it had views, but it had fewer views than most threads of that length have.

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I dunno if anyone else felt that way or not. And I didn't spend too much time looking at this thread because it the tone and frequency of the posts by the 2 of you was weird.

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I'm not a moderator and had nothing to do with the thread's removal, so rather than discuss it with me, maybe bring it up with a moderator?

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[Edited 4/2/18 9:55am]

Why do you feel the need to state that you are not a moderator??? That's an odd remark. Moreover, I'm discussing it with you because you jumped into this ongoing discussion.

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disch said:

The reason I'm saying I'm not a moderator is because I have no control over reactivating this thread, which I'm assuming is what you want to have happen. So arguing/debating with me won't get you anywhere on that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Why do you feel the need to state that you are not a moderator??? That's an odd remark. Moreover, I'm discussing it with you because you jumped into this ongoing discussion.

[Edited 4/2/18 10:00am]

Oh, I see. I thought you might have offered your disclaimer because, for awhile there, you were actually sounding like a moderator when you were stating (albeit illogical) reasons why the thread was pulled. As you said, only a moderator can speak to the justification for pulling the Andy (and Prince) Appreciation thread.

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Actually a lot of things that Prince himself said about Andy caused speculation.He went out of his way to comment about her in ways that would stir up interest.Such as commenting that "she's always in my hair" after Andy had finished performing People Pleaser,then chuckling seductively or commenting after she sang The Look Of Love and before performing Take Me With You "Wherever she goes I wanna go"Prince said those kinds of things himself in front of thousands.Naturally,that would cause some discussion and led many,including some of Prince's associates to believe that they were in a relationship and possibly even in love.A friend of his commented recently what a shame it was that more people don't know how special Andy was to Prince.

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anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you know how you sound??? Who are you to tell people what they have or have not heard previously? GTFOHWTBS!!!!!

Now DONT YOU START BULLYING people again, Fly. You dig up an old Post we already saw on all the other 5,000 Andy threads then Pink has to “thank” you - always, or say, “Oh isn’t that amazing!” Like shes never seen it before. Then Pink adds a “supposition” about the romance, and you bank off that with more posts and photos we’ve already seen many times in the past year, and it goes back and forth and bs k and forth, it’s not genuine, there are motives. Then Pink again gasps and says “isn’t that something!” Or thanks you. It truly is like watching a private conversation. Also to note: you both posted above at the same time (Fly hadn’t seen your list yet) that the thread had almost 12,000 views. You were both obviously really focused in that. Msybe if you didn’t go about it as a competition (both of you), and Pink stopped trying to manipulate so much or get under people’s skin which she loves doing but is not able to do anymore , things would work out better. [Edited 4/2/18 10:05am]

I make the same comments on the other threads I have actively posted in,including the Mayte and Carmen threads and others as well.If someone posts something I like or agree with,I thank them and comment even if it is something I have seen before.And I really don't get the "manipulation" comment.

[Edited 4/3/18 7:05am]

pinkcashmere23 said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Now DONT YOU START BULLYING people again, Fly. You dig up an old Post we already saw on all the other 5,000 Andy threads then Pink has to “thank” you - always, or say, “Oh isn’t that amazing!” Like shes never seen it before. Then Pink adds a “supposition” about the romance, and you bank off that with more posts and photos we’ve already seen many times in the past year, and it goes back and forth and bs k and forth, it’s not genuine, there are motives. Then Pink again gasps and says “isn’t that something!” Or thanks you. It truly is like watching a private conversation. Also to note: you both posted above at the same time (Fly hadn’t seen your list yet) that the thread had almost 12,000 views. You were both obviously really focused in that. Msybe if you didn’t go about it as a competition (both of you), and Pink stopped trying to manipulate so much or get under people’s skin which she loves doing but is not able to do anymore , things would work out better. [Edited 4/2/18 10:05am]

I make the same comments on the other threads I have actively posted in,including the Mayte and Carmen threads and others as well.If someone posts something I like or agree with,I thank them and comment.And I really don't get the "manipulation" comment.

The number of views is relevant to show that the claim that no one is interested in Prince and Andy's story is a flat-out, ridiculous lie.

FlyOnTheWall said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I make the same comments on the other threads I have actively posted in,including the Mayte and Carmen threads and others as well.If someone posts something I like or agree with,I thank them and comment.And I really don't get the "manipulation" comment.

The number of views is relevant to show that the claim that no one is interested in Prince and Andy's story is a flat-out, ridiculous lie.

From the number of views that topics about them receive,not just here but elsewhere on the net,people are definitely interested in their story.

[Edited 4/2/18 10:44am]

disch said:

Fly, read what i said: That is how it came across TO ME! It read as fake. I can't say what you and/or pink are actually thinking, what your motivations for posting on this topic with this intensity, etc. All I can say is how it reads to me.

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Lordy, I made a mistake in jumping in here. I shoulda found another way to kill some time during my lunch break!

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you know how you sound??? Who are you to tell people what they have or have not heard previously? GTFOHWTBS!!!!!

People are posting on the Mayte thread with the same intensity and it's pretty much the same people,including me.People are naturally going to post about or comment on who or what interests them.If three or four of us want to discuss a topic what does it matter to others who obviously don't share our interest? Others were free to post or comment as some did.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Fly, read what i said: That is how it came across TO ME! It read as fake. I can't say what you and/or pink are actually thinking, what your motivations for posting on this topic with this intensity, etc. All I can say is how it reads to me.

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Lordy, I made a mistake in jumping in here. I shoulda found another way to kill some time during my lunch break!

People are posting on the Mayte thread with the same intensity and it's pretty much the same people,including me.People are naturally going to post about or comment on who or what interests them.If three or four of us want to discuss a topic what does it matter to others who obviously don't share our interest? Others were free to post or comment as some did.

[Edited 4/2/18 11:13am]

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endiadj said:

So, is the mod bringing the thread back or will it be like the Denise/Prince thread from months back that disappeared?😑 And, why the Andy thread?

That's a good question for which I have not yet heard a plausible answer. I have written to all of The Org moderators for the Associated Artists & People forum to inquire about the thread's removal. I hope to hear something soon. Meanwhile, let's hope that the Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread will soon be resurrected, unlike the other three or four Prince/Andy Allo threads that were pulled in the past year, never to be seen again.

FlyOnTheWall said:

endiadj said:

So, is the mod bringing the thread back or will it be like the Denise/Prince thread from months back that disappeared?😑 And, why the Andy thread?

That's a good question for which I have not yet heard a plausible answer. I have written to all of The Org moderators for the Associated Artists & People forum to inquire about the thread's removal. I hope to hear something soon. Meanwhile, let's hope that the Andy Allo (and Prince) Appreciation Thread will soon be resurrected, unlike the other three or four Prince/Andy Allo threads that were pulled in the past year, never to be seen again.

Yes it's strange that it was pulled when it was a positive thread and everyone was being respectful,unless something happened after the last post that I missed.