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Reply #30 posted 02/22/18 8:14pm

malbena

OldFriends4Sale said:



malbena said:


Unfortunately, she has lost credibility. Her rants against too many people have backfired. This could also be another cryptic message to encourage gossip, attention drawing, and to stop tearing Apples apart on the other thread.


I wonder how she feels about Apollonia who supported the Revolution shows from day one and continued to go to them



And now Jerome being back with the Family (ie Susannah)



Jill barks but doesn't bite. She will protect her people with fierce but can be easily manipulated. Needs to calm down and keep a low profile. Too much to her head.

Appolonia is the glue that ties some people together but severely needs mental help. Her obsession for Prince and that little moment of fame has caused serious side effects.
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Reply #31 posted 02/22/18 10:09pm

Krystalkisses

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pinkcashmere23 said:



luvsexy4all said:


certain types he encountered? who ?



I remember after he passed she mentioned that she had been concerned about some of the young women who were around him at the time.Interesting post.



Yes i remember that too....it sounds lonely...
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Reply #32 posted 02/23/18 12:37am

CatB

cloveringold85 said:

I feel He is in a much better place. Because truthfully, I am not sure what he had here on planet earth was worth anything to keep him here longer than he stayed.

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I tend to agree. nod




I find it somewhat assuming of her to decide for him there. Especially since she told me only a couple of months ago that "as evolved as he wanted people to believe he was, he will have to come back for another incarnation."

Her good friend Apollonia said she knew he didn't want to die.


malbena said:


Jill barks but doesn't bite. She will protect her people with fierce but can be easily manipulated. Needs to calm down and keep a low profile. Too much to her head. Appolonia is the glue that ties some people together but severely needs mental help. Her obsession for Prince and that little moment of fame has caused serious side effects.



Yeah that.




"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #33 posted 02/23/18 6:34am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Seems like a reaction to Apple's post..... I don't know. confused


You are correct you do not know.
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Reply #34 posted 02/23/18 7:29am

pinkcashmere23

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I remember after he passed she mentioned that she had been concerned about some of the young women who were around him at the time.Interesting post.

Yes i remember that too....it sounds lonely...

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.

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Reply #35 posted 02/23/18 8:22am

malbena

pinkcashmere23 said:



Krystalkisses said:


pinkcashmere23 said:


I remember after he passed she mentioned that she had been concerned about some of the young women who were around him at the time.Interesting post.



Yes i remember that too....it sounds lonely...

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.



Damaris?
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Reply #36 posted 02/23/18 8:43am

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Yes i remember that too....it sounds lonely...

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.

I always thought she was shading Meron. Maybe other woman was friend of hers???

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Reply #37 posted 02/23/18 8:44am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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All these women are a hot mess.

eek lol

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Reply #38 posted 02/23/18 9:00am

pinkcashmere23

bondno9 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.

I always thought she was shading Meron. Maybe other woman was friend of hers???

I thought of Meron too.She described them as "Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women."She said they were in the bathroom smoking some weed.She also said it wasn't normal for him to have people like them around.I also thought of Mikala Love but I don't think she was still around in 2016.

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Reply #39 posted 02/23/18 9:04am

pinkcashmere23

malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.

Damaris?

Damaris was with him in Oakland but I don't think she fit the description.

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Reply #40 posted 02/23/18 9:08am

malbena

pinkcashmere23 said:

malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Damaris?

Damaris was with him in Oakland but I don't think she fit the description.

She described them as "Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women.

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Reply #41 posted 02/23/18 9:40am

pinkcashmere23

malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Damaris was with him in Oakland but I don't think she fit the description.

She described them as "Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women.

She doesn't come across that way to me but some of the other girls around him do.Mikala definitely does and she did smoke weed but not sure she was still around.

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Reply #42 posted 02/23/18 10:08am

malbena

pinkcashmere23 said:

malbena said:

She described them as "Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women.

She doesn't come across that way to me but some of the other girls around him do.Mikala definitely does and she did smoke weed but not sure she was still around.

But could Damaris could have associated. Her and Meron would hang out.

Anyhow, it is not up to Jill to decide who Prince's friends were to be as if he would have been better off with her friendship. Some later friends tried to get him the help he needed.

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Reply #43 posted 02/23/18 10:26am

pinkcashmere23

malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She doesn't come across that way to me but some of the other girls around him do.Mikala definitely does and she did smoke weed but not sure she was still around.

But could Damaris could have associated. Her and Meron would hang out.

Anyhow, it is not up to Jill to decide who Prince's friends were to be as if he would have been better off with her friendship. Some later friends tried to get him the help he needed.

That's true.Jill also hadn't been around for awhile and wasn't aware he had young women like that around him the last few years,starting with Chelsea Rodgers.

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Reply #44 posted 02/23/18 11:18am

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Vashtix said:



anangellooksdown said:


Vashtix said:


He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.


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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.


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Just my opinion .



Very possible Vashtix. I get the feeling he was really alone.

Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.



Yes, but it’s not the same as having people there. Prince needed human touch. And hugs. And love. Do you think anyone was there to give him that?
I think Kirk gave him love and companionship.
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Reply #45 posted 02/23/18 11:20am

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Vashtix said:



anangellooksdown said:


luvsexy4all said:

"the fall" ???



She put that in quotation marks, so it’s not her term. We’ve heard people use it before. I wonder, when was the last time JJ talked to Prince, before Vanity’s funeral? I also wonder what dies she mean by, he didn’t have much to stay here for? I guess he wasn’t in a relationship, at least not that Jill thinks.

He was tired and ready to go . . . he went on his own terms what was of value to him was not on this earth any longer. I think Prince always had friendships/relationships but not as deep as these women and the media and associates want to think. Reading about them and what these women say it was wash-rinse-repeat. They took as more - he sounds like the Great Romantic.


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I will always believe there was public Prince/private Prince/secret Prince. These women got public/private.


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Just my opinion .



Well he was a “G”. He had Damaris around him too, for the muse thing still, and to share clothes and makeup with. smile
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Reply #46 posted 02/23/18 11:27am

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pinkcashmere23 said:



cloveringold85 said:




Vashtix said:



Tamron Hall said she talked to him every-single-day so . . . I think he had friends.



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Yes, he had a few friends he would talk to regularly, but in his last years on this earth, he really was alone; he did not have a partner in life--someone he could love. Love is really all that matters in this world. We come into this world with no clothes on our backs, and no material possessions, and that is how we leave it.




During the P&M shows he seemed to be reflecting on love lost and failed relationships and he seemed almost melancholy at times.He also often mentioned the movie The Way We Were.He didn't talk like he did when he was in a seemingly happy relationship I agree.



I feel that he always grieved through his music and he was grieving his last situation, plus other one’s still a little bit, and that he was in a space where he was in between his last and future romances. I truly feel another he passed before the next one came.
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Reply #47 posted 02/23/18 11:32am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



anangellooksdown said:


When was the last time she had spoken with him prior to Denise’s funeral?


1990






I used to think that Prince and I would have been friends during the duration, during our whole lives. Because we had a really strong friendship... You can be with people for 10, 12 years, it's phases of your life, you just close the book and you just put it on the shelf. So, it's so bizarre when people ask anything about him, it was just a phase in my life. It's nothing in particular, it's just my point of view of certain phase in my life. It's always in retrospect. I used to say, when I got older, if I was on the Swiss Alps and I was milking cows, there would be somebody that would come across the hill that asked about Prince!




The second album... My mother passed away in '95. When she was diagnosed in cancer in '94, I had a deal with London Records. Steve Fargnoli hooked me up with them. My contract expired with Prince in 1993 on April 15... which I remember because it was seven years to the day. When my mom passed...I didn't want to sing. I don't think I handled it as professionally as I should have. I wrote a letter to my manager that said “You're just too busy going through the corporate world, because you don't know what the fuck you're doing.” And I faxed it. And we were dropped... I (later) recorded (the album Two) with Chris Bruce and it was cathartic. I had a new boyfriend at the time and that was a nightmare. (I) just had to get it all out. That record came and it was supposed to come. (The song) "Gorgeous Wonder" is about my daughter and she just saved me in so many ways. I just ended up going into interior design through friends. It was very trying and tricky. I remember (one time) that I was bartending and the RZA (from the Wu-Tang Clan) came in and said “you're Jill Jones” and I was like “No, I don't understand” and I pretended like I was French. Don't let your pride swallow you up...because that is a mistake. Everything's fixable and your good friends would never make you feel bad about it...



Ten years. Ten Years (emphasis added). Wasted. Yeah, ten years wasted. And I don't think fondly of these ten years, the ten years that I'm thinking of... But, I got a good song out of it.



I want to know how to stop over analyzing and to kind of just not take things so personally anymore.



http://beautifulnightschitown.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-question-of-u-jill-jones-talks-2.html



Wouldn’t it be 1993 since that is when her contract with Prince expired?
Either way, I know they had a strong friendship and sometimes you can know someone so well and who they are even years later, to some degree, like what they are like, but it does seem she didn’t see him for years before he passed.
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Reply #48 posted 02/23/18 11:42am

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anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



anangellooksdown said:


When was the last time she had spoken with him prior to Denise’s funeral?


1990






I used to think that Prince and I would have been friends during the duration, during our whole lives. Because we had a really strong friendship... You can be with people for 10, 12 years, it's phases of your life, you just close the book and you just put it on the shelf. So, it's so bizarre when people ask anything about him, it was just a phase in my life. It's nothing in particular, it's just my point of view of certain phase in my life. It's always in retrospect. I used to say, when I got older, if I was on the Swiss Alps and I was milking cows, there would be somebody that would come across the hill that asked about Prince!




The second album... My mother passed away in '95. When she was diagnosed in cancer in '94, I had a deal with London Records. Steve Fargnoli hooked me up with them. My contract expired with Prince in 1993 on April 15... which I remember because it was seven years to the day. When my mom passed...I didn't want to sing. I don't think I handled it as professionally as I should have. I wrote a letter to my manager that said “You're just too busy going through the corporate world, because you don't know what the fuck you're doing.” And I faxed it. And we were dropped... I (later) recorded (the album Two) with Chris Bruce and it was cathartic. I had a new boyfriend at the time and that was a nightmare. (I) just had to get it all out. That record came and it was supposed to come. (The song) "Gorgeous Wonder" is about my daughter and she just saved me in so many ways. I just ended up going into interior design through friends. It was very trying and tricky. I remember (one time) that I was bartending and the RZA (from the Wu-Tang Clan) came in and said “you're Jill Jones” and I was like “No, I don't understand” and I pretended like I was French. Don't let your pride swallow you up...because that is a mistake. Everything's fixable and your good friends would never make you feel bad about it...



Ten years. Ten Years (emphasis added). Wasted. Yeah, ten years wasted. And I don't think fondly of these ten years, the ten years that I'm thinking of... But, I got a good song out of it.



I want to know how to stop over analyzing and to kind of just not take things so personally anymore.



http://beautifulnightschitown.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-question-of-u-jill-jones-talks-2.html



Wouldn’t it be 1993 since that is when her contract with Prince expired?
Either way, I know they had a strong friendship and sometimes you can know someone so well and who they are even years later, to some degree, like what they are like, but it does seem she didn’t see him for years before he passed.

She said in one of her interviews she visited him at his home in Paris. I suspect it was passed 1990. We recently found out hecwas with Denise doing Batman period. We really do not know who Prince was communicating with or for how long.
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Reply #49 posted 02/23/18 11:44am

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malbena said:



pinkcashmere23 said:




malbena said:




She described them as "Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women.



She doesn't come across that way to me but some of the other girls around him do.Mikala definitely does and she did smoke weed but not sure she was still around.




But could Damaris could have associated. Her and Meron would hang out.


Anyhow, it is not up to Jill to decide who Prince's friends were to be as if he would have been better off with her friendship. Some later friends tried to get him the help he needed.


What help would that be? Help with joint pain?
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Reply #50 posted 02/23/18 11:45am

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malbena said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



malbena said:


Unfortunately, she has lost credibility. Her rants against too many people have backfired. This could also be another cryptic message to encourage gossip, attention drawing, and to stop tearing Apples apart on the other thread.


I wonder how she feels about Apollonia who supported the Revolution shows from day one and continued to go to them



And now Jerome being back with the Family (ie Susannah)



Jill barks but doesn't bite. She will protect her people with fierce but can be easily manipulated. Needs to calm down and keep a low profile. Too much to her head.

Appolonia is the glue that ties some people together but severely needs mental help. Her obsession for Prince and that little moment of fame has caused serious side effects.

Psychological analysis via social media.
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Reply #51 posted 02/23/18 11:55am

cloveringold85

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pinkcashmere23 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, a lot of people said he was very emotional during P&M. Losing Denise probably made him reflect a lot on his life. It was a side of him that we didn't get to see, until the very end. So sad. sad

I read that he would sometimes leave the stage and come back explaining to the audience how emotional some of the songs were for him to play.At one of the shows at PP he said,"I think I've got her out of my system now"Someone was definitely on his mind.He was being unusually open.

[Edited 2/22/18 18:41pm]

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I'm surprised he was able to perform at all. I couldn't do it.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #52 posted 02/23/18 11:57am

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In Jill's other FB post we were discussing, she said she and the other ladies decided at Denise's memorial that they were going to take turns going to Minnesota to take care of him and feed him to help him gain some weight.She said that she thought he looked gaunt.Apollonia posted on the morning of the 21st that she was making arrangements with Prince's manager to fly out.It looks like they were very concerned about him and were trying to help.

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Reply #53 posted 02/23/18 12:00pm

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CatB said:

cloveringold85 said:

I feel He is in a much better place. Because truthfully, I am not sure what he had here on planet earth was worth anything to keep him here longer than he stayed.

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I tend to agree. nod




I find it somewhat assuming of her to decide for him there. Especially since she told me only a couple of months ago that "as evolved as he wanted people to believe he was, he will have to come back for another incarnation."

Her good friend Apollonia said she knew he didn't want to die.


malbena said:


Jill barks but doesn't bite. She will protect her people with fierce but can be easily manipulated. Needs to calm down and keep a low profile. Too much to her head. Appolonia is the glue that ties some people together but severely needs mental help. Her obsession for Prince and that little moment of fame has caused serious side effects.



Yeah that.




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I think her comment was referring to certain people that Prince had in his life that did not really care about him. Maybe he was beginning to learn who were his true friends?

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I think Prince was still evolving and growing as a person; we never stop growing/changing. I don't believe he wanted to die, so I have to agree with Apples.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #54 posted 02/23/18 12:02pm

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malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes.I read her FB post again yesterday where she said that and she said it wasn't like him to have people like that around him.She was concerned about two young women in particular.I wonder who she was referring to.

Damaris?

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Hmmm, maybe Damaris and Judith? confused

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Reply #55 posted 02/23/18 12:02pm

pinkcashmere23

cloveringold85 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I read that he would sometimes leave the stage and come back explaining to the audience how emotional some of the songs were for him to play.At one of the shows at PP he said,"I think I've got her out of my system now"Someone was definitely on his mind.He was being unusually open.

[Edited 2/22/18 18:41pm]

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I'm surprised he was able to perform at all. I couldn't do it.

I know. The show at PP was before Denise's passing but he probably was aware of her illness..

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Reply #56 posted 02/23/18 12:04pm

malbena

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malbena said:

But could Damaris could have associated. Her and Meron would hang out.

Anyhow, it is not up to Jill to decide who Prince's friends were to be as if he would have been better off with her friendship. Some later friends tried to get him the help he needed.

What help would that be? Help with joint pain?

They called an addiction expert as proven.

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Reply #57 posted 02/23/18 12:05pm

malbena

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malbena said:
Jill barks but doesn't bite. She will protect her people with fierce but can be easily manipulated. Needs to calm down and keep a low profile. Too much to her head. Appolonia is the glue that ties some people together but severely needs mental help. Her obsession for Prince and that little moment of fame has caused serious side effects.
Psychological analysis via social media.

Isn't that what you're always doing? eek

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Reply #58 posted 02/23/18 12:06pm

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In Jill's other FB post we were discussing, she said she and the other ladies decided at Denise's memorial that they were going to take turns going to Minnesota to take care of him and feed him to help him gain some weight.She said that she thought he looked gaunt.Apollonia posted on the morning of the 21st that she was making arrangements with Prince's manager to fly out.It looks like they were very concerned about him and were trying to help.

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He definitely looked like he was neglecting his health. Maybe the loss of Denise sent him over the edge? confused

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #59 posted 02/23/18 12:10pm

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cloveringold85 said:

malbena said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Damaris?

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Hmmm, maybe Damaris and Judith? confused

I don't know if Judith was with him in Oakland.Damaris went to the game with him but no one said if she was at the concert or afterparty.Meron was with him that night.

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