laurarichardson said:

databank said:

You are not a messager but a source. The contempt you spill on others come from you. Don't project your views on reality.

.

For the last few months, I've hardly read anything from you but negative things about everyone but Prince. You behave like some sort of stalker searching the org for any post about those associates you dislike so you can immediately bitch about them. This is nothing less than obbsessive. You may not be bitter outside of the org, but you sure do everything you can to look bitter.

.

In the end, I'll say it again and that's the only thing to discuss: those people have never done a thing to you. Therefore, your contempt is nothing but pure wickedness. Most likely you like to hurt people because you cannot ignore the fact that those people you target may occasionally run into one of your posts.

What part of facts do you not understand? I am not the source they are the source via their actions and comments. These people are two-faced, smug, and entitled. I find their behavior to be wicked and it is too bad you are so pressed to communicate with them that you are pretending that have not said what the said and are doing what they are doing.

They do not have to do anything to me for me to point out their behaivor. It would be like watching someone get the shit kicked out of them on the street and walking away because hey it is not my business. I am not that type of " douche bag" if I see something wrong I am going to comment and no one is above being called out even I am not above being called out but I am not two-faced.

I hope they do run into my post or at least take the time to go back and look at the shitty stuff they said when Prince was alive and well. Those comments and post did not vanish into the abyss.

Your comparison with someone being beaten up in the street is so gross and inappropriate in regards of what we're discussing that I see what sense of "reality" you are talking about.

"If I see something wrong I am going to comment and no one is above being called out" usually means "I'm gonna force my views upon everyone else and condemn agressively whomever doesn't please me". I know that kind of thinking and I know where it leads. The only thing is that if you have a problem with someone, you oughta go talk to them, tell them what you think of them and settle it once and for all with them. Bitching, gossiping and trying to destroy people's reputations is not "good", Laura. Leading campaigns against people is not "good". It's not your place to harm other people's reputations. And if the reason why you're doing it is because you think those people have spoken badly about Prince, doing what you accuse them of doing is not gonna make you any better than they are. What you're doing is what every decent moral values, philosophy and religion condemns as mischievous gossip. You are not doing any "good", just making the world a worst place by spreading the idea that it's OK to be judgemental about others and vocal about it.

The problem with you and the people who think like you is that you're doing evil while being convinced that you're doing good, hurting people while being convinced that you're helping others.

So I know I won't convince you, madwoman that you are, I'm not even really talking to you anymore at this stage, I'm just repliying to try and reason those other people who read us and might be tempted to join you in the bitching party.

And however I may condemn your behavior for both moral reasons and the harm I believe it's doing to this community, let it be clear that I don't condemn you as a whole person. I'm sure you're sincere in your madness, I'm sure you can be super cool and super nice to the people you like and that we may even get along in a different context. But enough is enough!

laurarichardson said:

databank said:

It's not our place, strangers that we are to both of them, to pass judgement upon what occured or was said between Prince and Mark.

Y'all act like you're Prince buddies but you were nothing to him. None of us was. This story is not about us. it's about them.

What part are you missing? I am not passing judgement. I am commenting on things Mark actually said. I do not give a fuck about what was said between them in private. We can only go by what Mark has said in public.

It is my place and anyone else to say what we please. If Mark has a problem maybe he should have kept his mouth closed but he did not and once you go public you open yourself up to scruity.

You act like Mark is your buddy and he is going to melt from my comments. Get a grip.

The only thing he is worried about is the fact that Prince did not take him shopping. Look at the idiot comments you are defending.

It's not just about this thread and it's not just about Mark, as you well know.

And I'm sure Mayte will be happy to learn that being called a "foolish person" is not being passed judgement on

C'mon, I've had enough for today, I'm going to bed. Have a nice day, we have a lifetime to resume this argument later

databank said:

Laura can't stop anyone from talking. Mark and Mayte are no different from Prince or anyone else. They are not above criticism and questioing. Just because some want to turn a blild eye to Mark trash talking Prince before he pass on, don't mean others are going to forget what was say and down.

It's not our place, strangers that we are to both of them, to pass judgement upon what occured or was said between Prince and Mark.

Y'all act like you're Prince buddies but you were nothing to him. None of us was. This story is not about us. it's about them.

I never said I was Prince's friend. You are not Prince's or Mark's friend either. So what is your point? Mark talked bad about Prince but now he wants to sell books talking about him. Don't tell me what my place is. Are you out of place for stating that associated people don't to come here because Laura and other speak their mind just like Mark, Prince, Mayte, and others did. That is bull. I don't care if people tell their story but I do have a problem with people selling shit to the fanbase and want to act like they are so perfect. I have a right to read or listen to any statement Mark makes and assess what it means to me. If that runs associated people away, so be it. If one is going to talk, feedback is a given and the feedback is not alway going to be nice/positve. I don't agree with people getting rude or disprespectful.

Purplestar88 said:

databank said:

It's not our place, strangers that we are to both of them, to pass judgement upon what occured or was said between Prince and Mark.

Y'all act like you're Prince buddies but you were nothing to him. None of us was. This story is not about us. it's about them.

I never said I was Prince's friend. You are not Prince's or Mark's friend either. So what is your point? Mark talked bad about Prince but now he wants to sell books talking about him. Don't tell me what my place is. Are you out of place for stating that associated people don't to come here because Laura and other speak their mind just like Mark, Prince, Mayte, and others did. That is bull. I don't care if people tell their story but I do have a problem with people selling shit to the fanbase and want to act like they are so perfect. I have a right to read or listen to any statement Mark makes and assess what it means to me. If that runs associated people away, so be it. If one is going to talk, feedback is a given and the feedback is not alway going to be nice/positve. I don't agree with people getting rude or disprespectful.

Don't give me that BS about your "rights". No one's talking about anyone's "rights". It's as much my right to disagree with what you or Laura are saying and being vocal about it than it is yours to disagree with what Mark says and be vocal about it. We can disagree and even agree to disagree or argue forever, but this has nothing to do with those friiging "rights" people now cry about every time someone disagrees with them, as if a gun was put to their faces.

But we're cool. We strongly disagree on what is moral and immoral, it's life. I'm going now, have a nice day

databank said:

laurarichardson said:

What part are you missing? I am not passing judgement. I am commenting on things Mark actually said. I do not give a fuck about what was said between them in private. We can only go by what Mark has said in public.

It is my place and anyone else to say what we please. If Mark has a problem maybe he should have kept his mouth closed but he did not and once you go public you open yourself up to scruity.

You act like Mark is your buddy and he is going to melt from my comments. Get a grip.

The only thing he is worried about is the fact that Prince did not take him shopping. Look at the idiot comments you are defending.

It's not just about this thread and it's not just about Mark, as you well know.

And I'm sure Mayte will be happy to learn that being called a "foolish person" is not being passed judgement on

C'mon, I've had enough for today, I'm going to bed. Have a nice day, we have a lifetime to resume this argument later

Hanging out with the women that ran off with your husband is foolish. Not having developed your own carreer over a 20 year period to the point of hanging on to a dead man who did not even want to associate with you is foolish. My opinion and if it botherd her should could have kept her business to herself.

Telling the entire free world that their was a campagin to break up their marriage when your husband never kept it in his pants is nuts and she just has to deal with it.

Don't put your business in the streets if you do not want the blowback. You did not see Prince doing this stupid shit and none of his associates have learned at damm thing from his example.

laurarichardson said:

databank said:

It's not just about this thread and it's not just about Mark, as you well know.

And I'm sure Mayte will be happy to learn that being called a "foolish person" is not being passed judgement on

C'mon, I've had enough for today, I'm going to bed. Have a nice day, we have a lifetime to resume this argument later

Hanging out with the women that ran off with your husband is foolish. Not having developed your own carreer over a 20 year period to the point of hanging on to a dead man who did not even want to associate with you is foolish. My opinion and if it botherd her should could have kept her business to herself.

Telling the entire free world that their was a campagin to break up their marriage when your husband never kept it in his pants is nuts and she just has to deal with it.

Don't put your business in the streets if you do not want the blowback. You did not see Prince doing this stupid shit and none of his associates have learned at damm thing from his example.

She has her own carrier as a belly dancer, she's still having classes and is very succesful with that.

databank said:

Purplestar88 said:

I never said I was Prince's friend. You are not Prince's or Mark's friend either. So what is your point? Mark talked bad about Prince but now he wants to sell books talking about him. Don't tell me what my place is. Are you out of place for stating that associated people don't to come here because Laura and other speak their mind just like Mark, Prince, Mayte, and others did. That is bull. I don't care if people tell their story but I do have a problem with people selling shit to the fanbase and want to act like they are so perfect. I have a right to read or listen to any statement Mark makes and assess what it means to me. If that runs associated people away, so be it. If one is going to talk, feedback is a given and the feedback is not alway going to be nice/positve. I don't agree with people getting rude or disprespectful.

Don't give me that BS about your "rights". No one's talking about anyone's "rights". It's as much my right to disagree with what you or Laura are saying and being vocal about it than it is yours to disagree with what Mark says and be vocal about it. We can disagree and even agree to disagree or argue forever, but this has nothing to do with those friiging "rights" people now cry about every time someone disagrees with them, as if a gun was put to their faces.

But we're cool. We strongly disagree on what is moral and immoral, it's life. I'm going now, have a nice day

I am not going to go back and forth with you because you want to defend madness because you are thirsty for mindless gossip and lies from Mark and others, so you want people to kiss Mark and others like him ass and it is not going to happen. People agree and disagree I don't have a problem with that. But to say that because some orgers say things that is not the popular opinion and that is the reason why people don't come here is bull. No hugs for you as you felt it was ok to say Laura is bitter and lonely because she has an opinion that you don't like.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Hanging out with the women that ran off with your husband is foolish. Not having developed your own carreer over a 20 year period to the point of hanging on to a dead man who did not even want to associate with you is foolish. My opinion and if it botherd her should could have kept her business to herself.

Telling the entire free world that their was a campagin to break up their marriage when your husband never kept it in his pants is nuts and she just has to deal with it.

Don't put your business in the streets if you do not want the blowback. You did not see Prince doing this stupid shit and none of his associates have learned at damm thing from his example.

She has her own carrier as a belly dancer, she's still having classes and is very succesful with that.

Okay if you think that is carreer. Funny how that did not get going until after Prince died.

Purplestar88 said:

databank said:

Don't give me that BS about your "rights". No one's talking about anyone's "rights". It's as much my right to disagree with what you or Laura are saying and being vocal about it than it is yours to disagree with what Mark says and be vocal about it. We can disagree and even agree to disagree or argue forever, but this has nothing to do with those friiging "rights" people now cry about every time someone disagrees with them, as if a gun was put to their faces.

But we're cool. We strongly disagree on what is moral and immoral, it's life. I'm going now, have a nice day

I am not going to go back and forth with you because you want to defend madness because you are thirsty for mindless gossip and lies from Mark and others, so you want people to kiss Mark and others like him ass and it is not going to happen. People agree and disagree I don't have a problem with that. But to say that because some orgers say things that is not the popular opinion and that is the reason why people don't come here is bull. No hugs for you as you felt it was ok to say Laura is bitter and lonely because she has an opinion that you don't like.

Co-Sign Defending madness is the perfect end to this topic. Some of the associates are crazy.

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

She has her own carrier as a belly dancer, she's still having classes and is very succesful with that.

Okay if you think that is carreer. Funny how that did not get going until after Prince died.

What is your carreer Laura? And your last comment is wrong again, just visit her instagram side, she had a carreer even before he died, infact, she even had one BEFORE she met him. She could've been in cairo, but guess who stopped her by promising things? Prince.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Anyone can write a book about Prince.

I'm sure he'll tell us all about Prince pushing him so far in the back, that he wasn't seen. Prince didn't take him shopping either.

The book will be crybaby festival and yes anyone can write a book and self publish it which is what I suspect Mark will be doing.

Oh yeah, he'll be whining about how unfair he was treated.

laurarichardson said:

databank said:

It's not our place, strangers that we are to both of them, to pass judgement upon what occured or was said between Prince and Mark.

Y'all act like you're Prince buddies but you were nothing to him. None of us was. This story is not about us. it's about them.

What part are you missing? I am not passing judgement. I am commenting on things Mark actually said. I do not give a fuck about what was said between them in private. We can only go by what Mark has said in public.

It is my place and anyone else to say what we please. If Mark has a problem maybe he should have kept his mouth closed but he did not and once you go public you open yourself up to scruity.

You act like Mark is your buddy and he is going to melt from my comments. Get a grip.

The only thing he is worried about is the fact that Prince did not take him shopping. Look at the idiot comments you are defending.

In all fairness Laura, Mark may melt from us talking about him, after all he did cry about not getting to go shopping with Prince.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

What part are you missing? I am not passing judgement. I am commenting on things Mark actually said. I do not give a fuck about what was said between them in private. We can only go by what Mark has said in public.

It is my place and anyone else to say what we please. If Mark has a problem maybe he should have kept his mouth closed but he did not and once you go public you open yourself up to scruity.

You act like Mark is your buddy and he is going to melt from my comments. Get a grip.

The only thing he is worried about is the fact that Prince did not take him shopping. Look at the idiot comments you are defending.

In all fairness Laura, Mark may melt from us talking about him, after all he did cry about not getting to go shopping with Prince.

Lol I hope he is not greedy enough to repeat that mess in his book.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Okay if you think that is carreer. Funny how that did not get going until after Prince died.

What is your carreer Laura? And your last comment is wrong again, just visit her instagram side, she had a carreer even before he died, infact, she even had one BEFORE she met him. She could've been in cairo, but guess who stopped her by promising things? Prince.

If you believe her fine. I do not and I do not see "belly dancing" as a career. I did not think the dancing she with Prince was that good. My opinion.

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

What is your carreer Laura? And your last comment is wrong again, just visit her instagram side, she had a carreer even before he died, infact, she even had one BEFORE she met him. She could've been in cairo, but guess who stopped her by promising things? Prince.

If you believe her fine. I do not and I do not see "belly dancing" as a career. I did not think the dancing she with Prince was that good. My opinion.

There are all kinds of carreers tho, you can have one as a manager, you can have one in the military etc.

databank said:

NotACleverName said:

databank said:

They may have not but believe me, many associates read, or have read the org. And if they don't, people they know do, and tell them what's going on here.

Hate towards associates has been there for as long as I have, and that's 16 years now. You don't know the horrors I've read over the years, some real mean shit has been written. Luv4u recently said the Cat Q&A was cancelled because of things that certain people said about her. I mean seriously. Associates come here and read disgusting things either about themselves or people they most likely know or at least respect as fellow professionals, and you expect them to come here and talk with us? A few are above that and came regardless, MBN on a regular basis (he's really cool with us!), Michael B, Robin Power, Alan Leeds, Dave Friendlender, Michael Koppleman, Jess Sutcliffe and a few others on special occasions, but obviously most associates would just think that they have no time to lose coming here and being shat on by perfect strangers when they have better things to do. Those people are not our bros or our friends, they're professional musicians or music business people who have been working hard and struggling their whole life to make a living, they are respected by their peers and what? A few hateful nobodies who don't know a thing about them, people they've never met, spoken with, let alone done a thing to, just come here and call them names or lead campaigns against them, and they're supposed to just shrug and come here to be insulted in person? Nope. That's not how the world works. Ben has decided on a very liberal policy and people get away with a lot of things in the name of freedom of speech, but if this board was moderated more strictly, it's likely a lot more people would come and speak to us. They are obviously more eager to interact when invited by the likes of Michael Dean, the Peach and Black podcast or Dyes, because those people show respect. But a few orgers are enough to turn this place into a zoo and keep most associates away. It's all about respect. One may not like Brownmark, one doesn't have to come and say it here day in day out, and if one does on a specific topic they can formulate their critics in a polite, respectful manner. Not that Mark has ever done anything to anyone here, though, has he?

I wonder about that...see the following link to a September (20) 2015 thread - http://prince.org/msg/5/419009 - in which Cat's publicist promised a Q&A w/Cat that never came to fruition. The final post, again by Cat's publicist, on November 12 promises that answers are "on the way" and then......nothing. I don't deny that some statements were made about Cat that could have factored into a final decision; however, could a previous Q&A session that is unanswered show a pattern of noncommittal behavior? On the subject of Mark, I simply wonder, if indeed this book is fully autobiographical, why is he drawing attention to Prince (some still mourning and clamoring for any info about him) by titling the book using the words "Purple Kingdom"? His musical journey has encompassed more than just his collaborations with Prince, no? Maybe a sub title/descriptor along the lines of "to include stories of his work w/Prince" would assuage any claim of riding someone's coattails to achieve an end result?

It's just a lot easier for them to blame the posters, then to say that Cat broke her agreement. That way it looks like someone else's fault other then Cat's.

NotACleverName said:

databank said:

They may have not but believe me, many associates read, or have read the org. And if they don't, people they know do, and tell them what's going on here.

Hate towards associates has been there for as long as I have, and that's 16 years now. You don't know the horrors I've read over the years, some real mean shit has been written. Luv4u recently said the Cat Q&A was cancelled because of things that certain people said about her. I mean seriously. Associates come here and read disgusting things either about themselves or people they most likely know or at least respect as fellow professionals, and you expect them to come here and talk with us? A few are above that and came regardless, MBN on a regular basis (he's really cool with us!), Michael B, Robin Power, Alan Leeds, Dave Friendlender, Michael Koppleman, Jess Sutcliffe and a few others on special occasions, but obviously most associates would just think that they have no time to lose coming here and being shat on by perfect strangers when they have better things to do. Those people are not our bros or our friends, they're professional musicians or music business people who have been working hard and struggling their whole life to make a living, they are respected by their peers and what? A few hateful nobodies who don't know a thing about them, people they've never met, spoken with, let alone done a thing to, just come here and call them names or lead campaigns against them, and they're supposed to just shrug and come here to be insulted in person? Nope. That's not how the world works. Ben has decided on a very liberal policy and people get away with a lot of things in the name of freedom of speech, but if this board was moderated more strictly, it's likely a lot more people would come and speak to us. They are obviously more eager to interact when invited by the likes of Michael Dean, the Peach and Black podcast or Dyes, because those people show respect. But a few orgers are enough to turn this place into a zoo and keep most associates away. It's all about respect. One may not like Brownmark, one doesn't have to come and say it here day in day out, and if one does on a specific topic they can formulate their critics in a polite, respectful manner. Not that Mark has ever done anything to anyone here, though, has he?

I wonder about that...see the following link to a September (20) 2015 thread - http://prince.org/msg/5/419009 - in which Cat's publicist promised a Q&A w/Cat that never came to fruition. The final post, again by Cat's publicist, on November 12 promises that answers are "on the way" and then......nothing. I don't deny that some statements were made about Cat that could have factored into a final decision; however, could a previous Q&A session that is unanswered show a pattern of noncommittal behavior? On the subject of Mark, I simply wonder, if indeed this book is fully autobiographical, why is he drawing attention to Prince (some still mourning and clamoring for any info about him) by titling the book using the words "Purple Kingdom"? His musical journey has encompassed more than just his collaborations with Prince, no? Maybe a sub title/descriptor along the lines of "to include stories of his work w/Prince" would assuage any claim of riding someone's coattails to achieve an end result?

His musical journey has been short outside of his time with Prince. If he wants to get his book publish by a real book company he has no choice but to spew some dirt and use Prince as a selling tool. Outside of the fan community no one knows who he is.

luv4u's statement about it. If you wanna accuse a mod of lying, feel free to go and confront them.

"So long as folks keep spewing venom at associated artists on the org then they will or could be turned off to doing Q & A's.

Some of ya'all spew that venom, and then expect them to do a Q & A???

Ya'all don't realize the damage that you do as well as the work behind the scenes that we Moderators do to make this happen.

Ya'all don't know these associated artists on a personal level. They ain't yo mamma.

Show some respect and purple love and it may go far in an awesome way.

Nuff said."

Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/450281

.

I see y'all are only here to troll, spew venom and have fun moblynching others, so there's little point in discussing with y'all bullies any further. I can only hope the people in your life are showing you more kindness that you're capable of displaying here. Databank out.

These pretzels are making me thirsty

rdhull said:

These pretzels are making me thirsty

rdhull said:

These pretzels are making me thirsty

I read recently where he said he wasn't going to release it because the market was flooded now w/Prince books. Has he changed his mind?

PennyPurple said:

NotACleverName said:

databank said: I wonder about that...see the following link to a September (20) 2015 thread - http://prince.org/msg/5/419009 - in which Cat's publicist promised a Q&A w/Cat that never came to fruition. The final post, again by Cat's publicist, on November 12 promises that answers are "on the way" and then......nothing. I don't deny that some statements were made about Cat that could have factored into a final decision; however, could a previous Q&A session that is unanswered show a pattern of noncommittal behavior? On the subject of Mark, I simply wonder, if indeed this book is fully autobiographical, why is he drawing attention to Prince (some still mourning and clamoring for any info about him) by titling the book using the words "Purple Kingdom"? His musical journey has encompassed more than just his collaborations with Prince, no? Maybe a sub title/descriptor along the lines of "to include stories of his work w/Prince" would assuage any claim of riding someone's coattails to achieve an end result?

It's just a lot easier for them to blame the posters, then to say that Cat broke her agreement. That way it looks like someone else's fault other then Cat's.

No we can blame the posters who knew that she was doing this for us and took pleasure in posting stuff to make fun of her and such.

databank said:

luv4u's statement about it. If you wanna accuse a mod of lying, feel free to go and confront them.

"So long as folks keep spewing venom at associated artists on the org then they will or could be turned off to doing Q & A's.

Some of ya'all spew that venom, and then expect them to do a Q & A???

Ya'all don't realize the damage that you do as well as the work behind the scenes that we Moderators do to make this happen.

Ya'all don't know these associated artists on a personal level. They ain't yo mamma.

Show some respect and purple love and it may go far in an awesome way.

Nuff said."

Source: http://prince.org/msg/5/450281

.

I see y'all are only here to troll, spew venom and have fun moblynching others, so there's little point in discussing with y'all bullies any further. I can only hope the people in your life are showing you more kindness that you're capable of displaying here. Databank out.