Prince only hides the bone!

I do not believe Sheila, she was not around the last year of his life anyway.

I am ready to made fun of and verbally bullied but I do not buy he was that addicted to painkillers. I think the incidents on the plane and when he took the fentanyl were related and it was not about addiction to drugs but a deliberate act on his part. I will be a sheep for a moment and say "accidental".

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

The things you are throwing in don't add anything to the discussion 2, but you still here commenting your alternate facts. And I do try to ignore you, but it doesn't work.

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You are responding again so how is that ignoring me. I make myself plain and clear. I ask a lot questions that I get no response to and I have some people who agree with me but you are on those people’s cases are you?

Laura, can you read properly? I said I try to ignore you, not that I do. I try it everytime, but at certain points, I wanna respond to some of your comments.

purplefam99 said:

laurarichardson said:

—I already said what I thought Sheila E was driving at. He purposely started a fight with her and pushed her away because he was hiding something from her and it was not just drugs and I think she knows this now. This is my opinion and it is not going to change. [Edited 2/2/18 18:09pm]

Ok thx back on topic!! I do think she knew him very well and She would get hot with him if she knew he was in a way that was harmful. He didn’t want to hear and pushed those people away. I think he may have Really felt ok with not burdening them and maybe even a lot less Sad than we think. Some people who really are intouch spiritually And I believe he was really truly don’t fear death. I don’t think Prince did. I think he saw the portal to death as natural as the one to life. And I think as Easily as he was able to say ahmirs death was gods will he was and did say it about himself (whenever death was ready for him).

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Prince was a control-freak. I know lots of people who are just like him -- stubborn as a mule!!

funksterr said:

Prince only hides the bone!

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Oh, cute!

Vashtix said:

I do not believe Sheila, she was not around the last year of his life anyway.

I am ready to made fun of and verbally bullied but I do not buy he was that addicted to painkillers. I think the incidents on the plane and when he took the fentanyl were related and it was not about addiction to drugs but a deliberate act on his part. I will be a sheep for a moment and say "accidental".

He didn't pick out one selective "kill pill" of fentanyl to off himself. There is no evidence of an illicit pill that is imprinted with "fentanyl" on it during that time. It is more than likely that he was in possession of other illicit substances that were not listed in the warrant. None of the pills that were listed in the warrant (namely Watson 853)would produce an overdose unless he shoveled quite a large number of them down the hatch at the same time. We would then have to deem Prince a raging addict if we believe he swallowed such quantities of one particular opiate in Atlanta. This is impractical. Pills laced with unusual amounts of percocet and fentanyl that were in circulation when the crisis was peaking, is the more acceptable and logical vehicle that produced the overdose in both cases.

What is more common and documented by me's/coroners nationwide is that addicts who overdose, usually overdose from combined substances that leads to opiate toxicity. It is one of the same as a singular oxycodone pill that has fentanyl laced in it. He didn't start using "percocets' or "fentanyl" illicitly a mere (7) seven days before he died. He is dead because he took an unusually high amount of combined substances of which one contained toxic levels of fentanyl.

As you have stated, it was deliberate, and his actions leading up to it , and even after, are also all deliberate. He checked out many years ago and found the right opportunity to end it in grand fashion.

Menes said:

He didn't pick out one selective "kill pill" of fentanyl to off himself. There is no evidence of an illicit pill that is imprinted with "fentanyl" on it during that time. It is more than likely that he was in possession of other illicit substances that were not listed in the warrant. None of the pills that were listed in the warrant (namely Watson 853)would produce an overdose unless he shoveled quite a large number of them down the hatch at the same time. We would then have to deem Prince a raging addict if we believe he swallowed such quantities of one particular opiate in Atlanta. This is impractical. Pills laced with unusual amounts of percocet and fentanyl that were in circulation when the crisis was peaking, is the more acceptable and logical vehicle that produced the overdose in both cases.

What is more common and documented by me's/coroners nationwide is that addicts who overdose, usually overdose from combined substances that leads to opiate toxicity. It is one of the same as a singular oxycodone pill that has fentanyl laced in it. He didn't start using "percocets' or "fentanyl" illicitly a mere (7) seven days before he died. He is dead because he took an unusually high amount of combined substances of which one contained toxic levels of fentanyl.

As you have stated, it was deliberate, and his actions leading up to it , and even after, are also all deliberate. He checked out many years ago and found the right opportunity to end it in grand fashion.

Why do you think he checked out many years ago?

Vashtix said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

Vashtix said:

I do not believe Sheila, she was not around the last year of his life anyway.

I am ready to made fun of and verbally bullied but I do not buy he was that addicted to painkillers. I think the incidents on the plane and when he took the fentanyl were related and it was not about addiction to drugs but a deliberate act on his part. I will be a sheep for a moment and say "accidental".

He didn't pick out one selective "kill pill" of fentanyl to off himself. There is no evidence of an illicit pill that is imprinted with "fentanyl" on it during that time. It is more than likely that he was in possession of other illicit substances that were not listed in the warrant. None of the pills that were listed in the warrant (namely Watson 853)would produce an overdose unless he shoveled quite a large number of them down the hatch at the same time. We would then have to deem Prince a raging addict if we believe he swallowed such quantities of one particular opiate in Atlanta. This is impractical. Pills laced with unusual amounts of percocet and fentanyl that were in circulation when the crisis was peaking, is the more acceptable and logical vehicle that produced the overdose in both cases.

What is more common and documented by me's/coroners nationwide is that addicts who overdose, usually overdose from combined substances that leads to opiate toxicity. It is one of the same as a singular oxycodone pill that has fentanyl laced in it. He didn't start using "percocets' or "fentanyl" illicitly a mere (7) seven days before he died. He is dead because he took an unusually high amount of combined substances of which one contained toxic levels of fentanyl.

As you have stated, it was deliberate, and his actions leading up to it , and even after, are also all deliberate. He checked out many years ago and found the right opportunity to end it in grand fashion.

I agree; he was just waiting for the time. I think he had prompting . I miss Prince his presence on earth- things seem different without him on our planet.

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

He didn't pick out one selective "kill pill" of fentanyl to off himself. There is no evidence of an illicit pill that is imprinted with "fentanyl" on it during that time. It is more than likely that he was in possession of other illicit substances that were not listed in the warrant. None of the pills that were listed in the warrant (namely Watson 853)would produce an overdose unless he shoveled quite a large number of them down the hatch at the same time. We would then have to deem Prince a raging addict if we believe he swallowed such quantities of one particular opiate in Atlanta. This is impractical. Pills laced with unusual amounts of percocet and fentanyl that were in circulation when the crisis was peaking, is the more acceptable and logical vehicle that produced the overdose in both cases.

What is more common and documented by me's/coroners nationwide is that addicts who overdose, usually overdose from combined substances that leads to opiate toxicity. It is one of the same as a singular oxycodone pill that has fentanyl laced in it. He didn't start using "percocets' or "fentanyl" illicitly a mere (7) seven days before he died. He is dead because he took an unusually high amount of combined substances of which one contained toxic levels of fentanyl.

As you have stated, it was deliberate, and his actions leading up to it , and even after, are also all deliberate. He checked out many years ago and found the right opportunity to end it in grand fashion.

Why do you think he checked out many years ago?

I believe he checked out psychologically. I can not elaborate on any physical illness that he may have had (as purported on the board) but we can ascertain that the mind of an addict is fraught with mental anguish and torture. The very things that the brain normally rewards as "good behavior" are practically non existent in the mind of an addict. This is a daily fight between what was once normal and what is now the new norm . It is especially true for one who has been addicted for several years, as the longer you're addicted, the more a certain region of the brain is less likely to make decisions deemed "healthy".

There was nothing healthy about Prince in the last few years. What we saw was a mirage and that was sold to us who were on the outside looking in. He lived his life in a bubble for a very long time and his use of addictive substances enhanced this defense mechanism. What you and I would consider a problem that has a solution , does not equal to: Many years of drug addiction.

What is surprising is that most people do not want to believe that whether Prince was dabbling in the art of pain management for a legitimate illness/disease, an unhealthy psychological profile from addiction was developing because of mutated cells. The guilt and shame of having to keep the facade going( I am Prince) vs. the truth , became a brutal tug-o-war in the brain. I would even venture to say that the urge to feed the addiction, overrode pain management, if in fact that existed. Re: Days after Moline. Nothing about those last days seemed normal to me.

Now, you would have to ask yourself whether or not you believe that Prince's brain functioned any different from any other person who has been addicted to varied amounts of an addictive substance for many years. The answer is probably no. Prince's brain is not unique in that regard and so "checking out", is not seen as a threat or abnormal, living life without medicating, is abnormal. Lying is normal. Hence the daily struggle that wears and tears on the mind and the body.

"Checking out", whether it is because of a terminal illness or addiction, doesn't seem so much of a bad thing when it is fully understood.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Why do you think he checked out many years ago?

I believe he checked out psychologically. I can not elaborate on any physical illness that he may have had (as purported on the board) but we can ascertain that the mind of an addict is fraught with mental anguish and torture. The very things that the brain normally rewards as "good behavior" are practically non existent in the mind of an addict. This is a daily fight between what was once normal and what is now the new norm . It is especially true for one who has been addicted for several years, as the longer you're addicted, the more a certain region of the brain is less likely to make decisions deemed "healthy".

There was nothing healthy about Prince in the last few years. What we saw was a mirage and that was sold to us who were on the outside looking in. He lived his life in a bubble for a very long time and his use of addictive substances enhanced this defense mechanism. What you and I would consider a problem that has a solution , does not equal to: Many years of drug addiction.

What is surprising is that most people do not want to believe that whether Prince was dabbling in the art of pain management for a legitimate illness/disease, an unhealthy psychological profile from addiction was developing because of mutated cells. The guilt and shame of having to keep the facade going( I am Prince) vs. the truth , became a brutal tug-o-war in the brain. I would even venture to say that the urge to feed the addiction, overrode pain management, if in fact that existed. Re: Days after Moline. Nothing about those last days seemed normal to me.

Now, you would have to ask yourself whether or not you believe that Prince's brain functioned any different from any other person who has been addicted to varied amounts of an addictive substance for many years. The answer is probably no. Prince's brain is not unique in that regard and so "checking out", is not seen as a threat or abnormal, living life without medicating, is abnormal. Lying is normal. Hence the daily struggle that wears and tears on the mind and the body.

"Checking out", whether it is because of a terminal illness or addiction, doesn't seem so much of a bad thing when it is fully understood.

I see. Thank you.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Why do you think he checked out many years ago?

I believe he checked out psychologically. I can not elaborate on any physical illness that he may have had (as purported on the board) but we can ascertain that the mind of an addict is fraught with mental anguish and torture. The very things that the brain normally rewards as "good behavior" are practically non existent in the mind of an addict. This is a daily fight between what was once normal and what is now the new norm . It is especially true for one who has been addicted for several years, as the longer you're addicted, the more a certain region of the brain is less likely to make decisions deemed "healthy".

There was nothing healthy about Prince in the last few years. What we saw was a mirage and that was sold to us who were on the outside looking in. He lived his life in a bubble for a very long time and his use of addictive substances enhanced this defense mechanism. What you and I would consider a problem that has a solution , does not equal to: Many years of drug addiction.

What is surprising is that most people do not want to believe that whether Prince was dabbling in the art of pain management for a legitimate illness/disease, an unhealthy psychological profile from addiction was developing because of mutated cells. The guilt and shame of having to keep the facade going( I am Prince) vs. the truth , became a brutal tug-o-war in the brain. I would even venture to say that the urge to feed the addiction, overrode pain management, if in fact that existed. Re: Days after Moline. Nothing about those last days seemed normal to me.

Now, you would have to ask yourself whether or not you believe that Prince's brain functioned any different from any other person who has been addicted to varied amounts of an addictive substance for many years. The answer is probably no. Prince's brain is not unique in that regard and so "checking out", is not seen as a threat or abnormal, living life without medicating, is abnormal. Lying is normal. Hence the daily struggle that wears and tears on the mind and the body.

"Checking out", whether it is because of a terminal illness or addiction, doesn't seem so much of a bad thing when it is fully understood.

You are right. He did not appear healthy in recent years. He was looking good and had energy from the 21 Nights in London tour through the Welcome 2 tours. Then from 2013 into 2014-ish, there seemed to be a shift in his appearance. Maybe it was the 'fro, but something was different and I don't know if the word "dark" is the appropriate word. He was more emotional (especially Montreux 2013) and even had an angry(again not sure if that's the right word) tone in some live performances. He wrote songs like The Breakdown and Way Back Home which imply reflection, change, and surrender.

The truth is Prince was so private, it's hard to know what was really going on- illness or something personal but he was definitely struggling. Personally, I lean towards the latter- that he was dealing something personal along physical pain from grueling performances for over 3 decades, was self-medicating, and something sent him off the cliff. If he had been dying of a terminal illness, there is no reason for the family not to share that with the public now that he is gone. Who does it hurt now? No one. In fact, he'd garner more sympathy from the public if that were the case as he's been painted as another drug addicted rockstar since his death. I am with you that his death was deliberate.

I know people are going to come out swinging that if he was suicidal, he wouldn’t have done this or that, made future plans, etc or he was too religious and wouldn’t have put his soul in jeopardy. However, not all suicidal people have the same signs or MO. Sometimes, taking one’s life is a last minute unfortunate decision. Thoughts of the future do not cross the mind when one is desperate for soothing and relief of pain whether it be mentally, emotionally, physically, or all three. Also, some will make those future plans to make those around them not suspicious that they may take their own life.

Another thing that no one mentions much anymore is that Prince had a series of blows in the final months leading up to his death. Bowie had just died in January. This was someone Prince admired and was his cohort as far as the business goes. Then last but not least, Denise Matthews passed away on the first night of the Piano and Mic tour. Someone who attended that concert in Australia mentioned that he looked like had aged 20 years just in that one night. He was DEEPLY affected by her death.

Prince had a lot going on and I believe it’s more complicated than what we think.

[Edited 2/4/18 11:32am]

purplegirl00 said:

Menes said:

I believe he checked out psychologically. I can not elaborate on any physical illness that he may have had (as purported on the board) but we can ascertain that the mind of an addict is fraught with mental anguish and torture. The very things that the brain normally rewards as "good behavior" are practically non existent in the mind of an addict. This is a daily fight between what was once normal and what is now the new norm . It is especially true for one who has been addicted for several years, as the longer you're addicted, the more a certain region of the brain is less likely to make decisions deemed "healthy".

There was nothing healthy about Prince in the last few years. What we saw was a mirage and that was sold to us who were on the outside looking in. He lived his life in a bubble for a very long time and his use of addictive substances enhanced this defense mechanism. What you and I would consider a problem that has a solution , does not equal to: Many years of drug addiction.

What is surprising is that most people do not want to believe that whether Prince was dabbling in the art of pain management for a legitimate illness/disease, an unhealthy psychological profile from addiction was developing because of mutated cells. The guilt and shame of having to keep the facade going( I am Prince) vs. the truth , became a brutal tug-o-war in the brain. I would even venture to say that the urge to feed the addiction, overrode pain management, if in fact that existed. Re: Days after Moline. Nothing about those last days seemed normal to me.

Now, you would have to ask yourself whether or not you believe that Prince's brain functioned any different from any other person who has been addicted to varied amounts of an addictive substance for many years. The answer is probably no. Prince's brain is not unique in that regard and so "checking out", is not seen as a threat or abnormal, living life without medicating, is abnormal. Lying is normal. Hence the daily struggle that wears and tears on the mind and the body.

"Checking out", whether it is because of a terminal illness or addiction, doesn't seem so much of a bad thing when it is fully understood.

You are right. He did not appear healthy in recent years. He was looking good and had energy from the 21 Nights in London tour through the Welcome 2 tours. Then from 2013 into 2014-ish, there seemed to be a shift in his appearance. Maybe it was the 'fro, but something was different and I don't know if the word "dark" is the appropriate word. He was more emotional (especially Montreux 2013) and even had an angry(again not sure if that's the right word) tone in some live performances. He wrote songs like The Breakdown and Way Back Home which imply reflection, change, and surrender.

The truth is Prince was so private, it's hard to know what was really going on- illness or something personal but he was definitely struggling. Personally, I lean towards the latter- that he was dealing something personal along physical pain from grueling performances for over 3 decades, was self-medicating, and something sent him off the cliff. If he had been dying of a terminal illness, there is no reason for the family not to share that with the public now that he is gone. Who does it hurt now? No one. In fact, he'd garner more sympathy from the public if that were the case as he's been painted as another drug addicted rockstar since his death. I am with you that his death was deliberate.

I know people are going to come out swinging that if he was suicidal, he wouldn’t have done this or that, made future plans, etc or he was too religious and wouldn’t have put his soul in jeopardy. However, not all suicidal people have the same signs or MO. Sometimes, taking one’s life is a last minute unfortunate decision. Thoughts of the future do not cross the mind when one is desperate for soothing and relief of pain whether it be mentally, emotionally, physically, or all three.

Another thing that no one mentions much anymore is that Prince had a series of blows in the final months leading up to his death. Bowie had just died in January. This was someone Prince admired and was his cohort as far as the business goes. Then last but not least, Denise Matthews passed away on the first night of the Piano and Mic tour. Someone who attended that concert in Australia mentioned that he looked like had aged 20 years just in that one night. He was DEEPLY affected by her death.

Prince had a lot going on and I believe it’s more complicated than what we think.

I noticed a change in his appearance from May 2014 on.He began to lose weight around that time.I think he looked good during the shows at Montreux though he did seem to be emotional during his performance of Breakdown and appeared to be wiping away tears afterwards.The song was most likely written before or in 2012.His personal life seemed a bit complicated at the time and I think his behavior at Montreux may have been because of that.He seemed happier to me toward the end of 2013 during the PP Livestreams and in the beginning of 2014 he still looked healthy to me.He did seem very emotional and almost melancholy during some of the P&M shows beginning with the first one at Paisley where I read in a few reviews that he left the stage a few times and was crying during a performance.He also didn't seem happy with his personal life from the way he was talking during the P&M shows.I agree that the losses he suffered beginning with Kim Upsher in 2015 and ending with Denise affected him profoundly.I wonder when the argument that Sheila referred to took place.Someone here who said they were working security during Prince's Forum residency claimed to have witnessed a huge fight between he and Sheila before her announcement that she would no longer work with him.

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Hmmm, I don't really agree that Prince was checking-out. He left this earth before it was his time.

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It doesn't appear that way when you read Rolling Stone's last interview with Prince in 2014:

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....As we walk along, he shows no sign of reported double-hip-replacement- surgery – no limp, no cane, no apparent discomfort. His brown eyes are alert, and his wit is quick – looking back, it's nearly impossible to square his affect with posthumous rumors of an opioid addiction. He claims not to feel the passage of time, and says mortality doesn't enter his thoughts: "I don't think about 'gone.'" To the contrary, he is immersed in the moment, invested in a creative future that he believes will be long and bright. The pause between albums seems to have been healthy for him, as is the youthful, enthusiastic, near-worshipful presence of the 3rdEyeGirl members. For the first time in years, he's been opening up Paisley Park to local fans for spontaneous events. There's talk of staging one of these shows on the night of my visit, though it evaporates with no notice.

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https://www.rollingstone....y-20160502

purplegirl00 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Hmmm, I don't really agree that Prince was checking-out. He left this earth before it was his time.

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It doesn't appear that way when you read Rolling Stone's last interview with Prince in 2014:

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....As we walk along, he shows no sign of reported double-hip-replacement- surgery – no limp, no cane, no apparent discomfort. His brown eyes are alert, and his wit is quick – looking back, it's nearly impossible to square his affect with posthumous rumors of an opioid addiction. He claims not to feel the passage of time, and says mortality doesn't enter his thoughts: "I don't think about 'gone.'" To the contrary, he is immersed in the moment, invested in a creative future that he believes will be long and bright. The pause between albums seems to have been healthy for him, as is the youthful, enthusiastic, near-worshipful presence of the 3rdEyeGirl members. For the first time in years, he's been opening up Paisley Park to local fans for spontaneous events. There's talk of staging one of these shows on the night of my visit, though it evaporates with no notice.

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https://www.rollingstone....y-20160502

I think that all the things mentioned her confirms a change and he was making changes. I like the article notes he did not show signs of an addiction. I will never buy the addiction. I think he was tired and as Tyka said did all he came here to do. It hurts but I think he left when and how he wanted.

It was before his time for me but perfect for him.

Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

Hmmm, I don't really agree that Prince was checking-out. He left this earth before it was his time.

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It doesn't appear that way when you read Rolling Stone's last interview with Prince in 2014:

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....As we walk along, he shows no sign of reported double-hip-replacement- surgery – no limp, no cane, no apparent discomfort. His brown eyes are alert, and his wit is quick – looking back, it's nearly impossible to square his affect with posthumous rumors of an opioid addiction. He claims not to feel the passage of time, and says mortality doesn't enter his thoughts: "I don't think about 'gone.'" To the contrary, he is immersed in the moment, invested in a creative future that he believes will be long and bright. The pause between albums seems to have been healthy for him, as is the youthful, enthusiastic, near-worshipful presence of the 3rdEyeGirl members. For the first time in years, he's been opening up Paisley Park to local fans for spontaneous events. There's talk of staging one of these shows on the night of my visit, though it evaporates with no notice.

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https://www.rollingstone....y-20160502

I think that all the things mentioned her confirms a change and he was making changes. I like the article notes he did not show signs of an addiction. I will never buy the addiction. I think he was tired and as Tyka said did all he came here to do. It hurts but I think he left when and how he wanted.

It was before his time for me but perfect for him.

But how is it that one could never buy that he suffered from"addiction", yet admittedly, claim that he was self-medicating with some of the most brutal substances one could ingest, that in fact, cause addiction in very short order? In essence , that would mean that Prince's brain is immune to the effects that all addicts suffer from when ingesting opiates . I would also be willing to bet the whole house that the procuring and ingesting of such substances, did not start with a plane ride to Moline. Furthermore, an article can not knowingly and readily detect the psychological signs of addiction, depression or any other such symptoms of a brain disorder, as these things are very easy to mask in a brief encounter.

When you couple periods of bereavement with addiction, the changes are profound .What appears to be poison to you and I , is protection for someone else.

Btw, I always wondered if the story is true about him not going to his mother's funeral? If true, was that because of religion, or just someone who didn't deal with death/funerals in a way most of us would?

Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

Hmmm, I don't really agree that Prince was checking-out. He left this earth before it was his time.

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It doesn't appear that way when you read Rolling Stone's last interview with Prince in 2014:

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....As we walk along, he shows no sign of reported double-hip-replacement- surgery – no limp, no cane, no apparent discomfort. His brown eyes are alert, and his wit is quick – looking back, it's nearly impossible to square his affect with posthumous rumors of an opioid addiction. He claims not to feel the passage of time, and says mortality doesn't enter his thoughts: "I don't think about 'gone.'" To the contrary, he is immersed in the moment, invested in a creative future that he believes will be long and bright. The pause between albums seems to have been healthy for him, as is the youthful, enthusiastic, near-worshipful presence of the 3rdEyeGirl members. For the first time in years, he's been opening up Paisley Park to local fans for spontaneous events. There's talk of staging one of these shows on the night of my visit, though it evaporates with no notice.

.

https://www.rollingstone....y-20160502

I think that all the things mentioned her confirms a change and he was making changes. I like the article notes he did not show signs of an addiction. I will never buy the addiction. I think he was tired and as Tyka said did all he came here to do. It hurts but I think he left when and how he wanted.

It was before his time for me but perfect for him.

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Tyka's comment: "He needed to go." just doesn't sit well with me.

Menes said:

Vashtix said:

I think that all the things mentioned her confirms a change and he was making changes. I like the article notes he did not show signs of an addiction. I will never buy the addiction. I think he was tired and as Tyka said did all he came here to do. It hurts but I think he left when and how he wanted.

It was before his time for me but perfect for him.

But how is it that one could never buy that he suffered from"addiction", yet admittedly, claim that he was self-medicating with some of the most brutal substances one could ingest, that in fact, cause addiction in very short order? In essence , that would mean that Prince's brain is immune to the effects that all addicts suffer from when ingesting opiates . I would also be willing to bet the whole house that the procuring and ingesting of such substances, did not start with a plane ride to Moline. Furthermore, an article can not knowingly and readily detect the psychological signs of addiction, depression or any other such symptoms of a brain disorder, as these things are very easy to mask in a brief encounter.

When you couple periods of bereavement with addiction, the changes are profound .What appears to be poison to you and I , is protection for someone else.

Btw, I always wondered if the story is true about him not going to his mother's funeral? If true, was that because of religion, or just someone who didn't deal with death/funerals in a way most of us would?

.

From my observation, I think Prince started struggling with his pain thus started abusing pain meds more from 2012 onward. He probably never imagined he would become so dependent on pain meds, and thought he could handle it on his own. His body built-up a tolerance to Percocet and it wasn't doing anything for him anymore.

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What I recall about Prince's Mother's funeral is that he did not attend her funeral. He didn't like funerals and it was part of the JW beliefs. He was by her side before she passed.

cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

But how is it that one could never buy that he suffered from"addiction", yet admittedly, claim that he was self-medicating with some of the most brutal substances one could ingest, that in fact, cause addiction in very short order? In essence , that would mean that Prince's brain is immune to the effects that all addicts suffer from when ingesting opiates . I would also be willing to bet the whole house that the procuring and ingesting of such substances, did not start with a plane ride to Moline. Furthermore, an article can not knowingly and readily detect the psychological signs of addiction, depression or any other such symptoms of a brain disorder, as these things are very easy to mask in a brief encounter.

When you couple periods of bereavement with addiction, the changes are profound .What appears to be poison to you and I , is protection for someone else.

Btw, I always wondered if the story is true about him not going to his mother's funeral? If true, was that because of religion, or just someone who didn't deal with death/funerals in a way most of us would?

.

From my observation, I think Prince started struggling with his pain thus started abusing pain meds more from 2012 onward. He probably never imagined he would become so dependent on pain meds, and thought he could handle it on his own. His body built-up a tolerance to Percocet and it wasn't doing anything for him anymore.

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What I recall about Prince's Mother's funeral is that he did not attend her funeral. He didn't like funerals and it was part of the JW beliefs. He was by her side before she passed.

JW , again? So, their hand was in just about everything personal except hauling ass over there and looking after him after Moline? The "church'.

anangellooksdown said:

Remember the Pastor at P’s LA life celebration said not to question God’s timing. P was okay. And he is okay. He’s not gone, either.

What?

Menes said:

cloveringold85 said:

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From my observation, I think Prince started struggling with his pain thus started abusing pain meds more from 2012 onward. He probably never imagined he would become so dependent on pain meds, and thought he could handle it on his own. His body built-up a tolerance to Percocet and it wasn't doing anything for him anymore.

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What I recall about Prince's Mother's funeral is that he did not attend her funeral. He didn't like funerals and it was part of the JW beliefs. He was by her side before she passed.

JW , again? So, their hand was in just about everything personal except hauling ass over there and looking after him after Moline? The "church'.

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I know! Tell me about it. I feel the same way. Where dafugg were they? Where was his "friend" Larry?

Menes said:

anangellooksdown said:

Remember the Pastor at P’s LA life celebration said not to question God’s timing. P was okay. And he is okay. He’s not gone, either.

What?

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God's timing?

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That's just it.......it wasn't his time!

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Prince didn't die of "natural causes" ----> THAT would be God's timing, not an overdose of illegal Fentanyl.

cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

JW , again? So, their hand was in just about everything personal except hauling ass over there and looking after him after Moline? The "church'.

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I know! Tell me about it. I feel the same way. Where dafugg were they? Where was his "friend" Larry?

Please don't get me started on "larry the leech". I just started my pre- super bowl drinking and I'll go full throttle in a minute.

Menes said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I know! Tell me about it. I feel the same way. Where dafugg were they? Where was his "friend" Larry?

Please don't get me started on "larry the leech". I just started my pre- super bowl drinking and I'll go full throttle in a minute.

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Ha-ha!!

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cloveringold85 said:

Vashtix said:

I think that all the things mentioned her confirms a change and he was making changes. I like the article notes he did not show signs of an addiction. I will never buy the addiction. I think he was tired and as Tyka said did all he came here to do. It hurts but I think he left when and how he wanted.

It was before his time for me but perfect for him.

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Tyka's comment: "He needed to go." just doesn't sit well with me.

I was not thinking of that comment but when she said he told her - he came here to do. Prince was a grown man and in 2014 he was in his fifties. He was not a young man just starting out. He had lived a whole lot of life. He gifted the world with so much.

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It seems to me Prince felt he needed to go or he would still be here. He is allowed to be who he wanted to be and that inlcudes his convictions and faith and feelings of things being demonic or not.

Prince is allowed to be who he was and not the image he built of who as a fan may have wanted him to be. Since his death so much has been learned about Prince and more than ever I think he had a public life, private life, and secret life. I admire the fact he kept things for himself and to himself. I feel the same as about his choice to exit earth on his terms. My respect and admiration for him as a human being has grown so much since his transition and I do not blame anyone for it nor his faith.

There is something uneasy when people want to make another's faith a downfall. I believe Prince's faith is what gave him the strength throughout his life.

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I just look at his "friends" and associates since his transition in my opinion and he needed his faith to deal with all of them; not saying anything negative just they are alot to deal with. ALOT. I am glad he had his faith and his secret life to sustain him. He was human. Much love for him always.

Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Tyka's comment: "He needed to go." just doesn't sit well with me.

I was not thinking of that comment but when she said he told her - he came here to do. Prince was a grown man and in 2014 he was in his fifties. He was not a young man just starting out. He had lived a whole lot of life. He gifted the world with so much.

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It seems to me Prince felt he needed to go or he would still be here. He is allowed to be who he wanted to be and that inlcudes his convictions and faith and feelings of things being demonic or not.

Prince is allowed to be who he was and not the image he built of who as a fan may have wanted him to be. Since his death so much has been learned about Prince and more than ever I think he had a public life, private life, and secret life. I admire the fact he kept things for himself and to himself. I feel the same as about his choice to exit earth on his terms. My respect and admiration for him as a human being has grown so much since his transition and I do not blame anyone for it nor his faith.

There is something uneasy when people want to make another's faith a downfall. I believe Prince's faith is what gave him the strength throughout his life.

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I just look at his "friends" and associates since his transition in my opinion and he needed his faith to deal with all of them; not saying anything negative just they are alot to deal with. ALOT. I am glad he had his faith and his secret life to sustain him. He was human. Much love for him always.

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Prince had a strong faith and that is what got him through all the tough times, no doubt.

Vashtix said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Tyka's comment: "He needed to go." just doesn't sit well with me.

I was not thinking of that comment but when she said he told her - he came here to do. Prince was a grown man and in 2014 he was in his fifties. He was not a young man just starting out. He had lived a whole lot of life. He gifted the world with so much.

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It seems to me Prince felt he needed to go or he would still be here. He is allowed to be who he wanted to be and that inlcudes his convictions and faith and feelings of things being demonic or not.

Prince is allowed to be who he was and not the image he built of who as a fan may have wanted him to be. Since his death so much has been learned about Prince and more than ever I think he had a public life, private life, and secret life. I admire the fact he kept things for himself and to himself. I feel the same as about his choice to exit earth on his terms. My respect and admiration for him as a human being has grown so much since his transition and I do not blame anyone for it nor his faith.

There is something uneasy when people want to make another's faith a downfall. I believe Prince's faith is what gave him the strength throughout his life.

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I just look at his "friends" and associates since his transition in my opinion and he needed his faith to deal with all of them; not saying anything negative just they are alot to deal with. ALOT. I am glad he had his faith and his secret life to sustain him. He was human. Much love for him always.

Co-sign. Thank you the voice of reason.