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Reply #30 posted 12/01/17 2:34pm

babynoz

Imagine my shock! ~sarcasm~

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #31 posted 12/01/17 3:38pm

sexyisintheima
gination

Wow, that speaks volumes of where her intention sits.
I didn't even consider myself a fan, and the shock of his passing, the rainbow at Paisley the sky was all purple from monuments honoring his legacy and she thought get the philanthropy names back from when he burned the house down with the will in it. I do believe in karma so let's wait to see how she gets hers.

I'm not a mean spirited person but wow, she brought prince down.This is darkness and hate.


Ya know what caused Prince death: misguided trust from users.

Kim Berry said it he needed someone real. A lot of real is coming to lights
I won't support anything to do with this lady.
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Reply #32 posted 12/01/17 3:50pm

Vashtix

sexyisintheimagination said:

Wow, that speaks volumes of where her intention sits.
I didn't even consider myself a fan, and the shock of his passing, the rainbow at Paisley the sky was all purple from monuments honoring his legacy and she thought get the philanthropy names back from when he burned the house down with the will in it. I do believe in karma so let's wait to see how she gets hers.

I'm not a mean spirited person but wow, she brought prince down.This is darkness and hate.


Ya know what caused Prince death: misguided trust from users.

Kim Berry said it he needed someone real. A lot of real is coming to lights
I won't support anything to do with this lady.


:nod:

It hurts to imagine but it is no denying.
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Reply #33 posted 12/01/17 4:02pm

sexyisintheima
gination

Vashtix said:

sexyisintheimagination said:

Wow, that speaks volumes of where her intention sits.
I didn't even consider myself a fan, and the shock of his passing, the rainbow at Paisley the sky was all purple from monuments honoring his legacy and she thought get the philanthropy names back from when he burned the house down with the will in it. I do believe in karma so let's wait to see how she gets hers.

I'm not a mean spirited person but wow, she brought prince down.This is darkness and hate.


Ya know what caused Prince death: misguided trust from users.

Kim Berry said it he needed someone real. A lot of real is coming to lights
I won't support anything to do with this lady.


:nod:


It hurts to imagine but it is no denying.


She was interviewed somewhere saying she missed Prince. She had a daughter with her. There is a thing called a false persona...smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within.

When I see or hear this lady try for attention: turn it off walk away
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Reply #34 posted 12/01/17 4:03pm

Vashtix

sexyisintheimagination said:

Vashtix said:



:nod:


It hurts to imagine but it is no denying.


She was interviewed somewhere saying she missed Prince. She had a daughter with her. There is a thing called a false persona...smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within.

When I see or hear this lady try for attention: turn it off walk away

nod
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Reply #35 posted 12/01/17 4:38pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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purplemist7777 said:

Vashtix said:
Will peeps stop romanticizing M2 with Prince.She went into it with an agenda. Looks like while the world was grieving she was hatching her plans. Cold and calculating. It makes me sad for him.
Possibly she did this at the request of family member(s)? I’d like to hear from Someone in the family about this

Looky here. We have a new M2 stan.

pimp2

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Reply #36 posted 12/01/17 4:53pm

sexyisintheima
gination

I will never say the worlds L41onother again.

I ll just say be kind or give love

Trademark it and we will all avoid
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Reply #37 posted 12/01/17 5:19pm

Bodhitheblackd
og

sexyisintheimagination said:

I will never say the worlds L41onother again. I ll just say be kind or give love Trademark it and we will all avoid

yes

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Reply #38 posted 12/01/17 5:45pm

purplemist7777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



purplemist7777 said:


Vashtix said:
Will peeps stop romanticizing M2 with Prince.She went into it with an agenda. Looks like while the world was grieving she was hatching her plans. Cold and calculating. It makes me sad for him.

Possibly she did this at the request of family member(s)? I’d like to hear from Someone in the family about this

Looky here. We have a new M2 stan.


pimp2


NOPE
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Reply #39 posted 12/02/17 5:07am

Vashtix

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplemist7777 said:

Vashtix said: Possibly she did this at the request of family member(s)? I’d like to hear from Someone in the family about this

Looky here. We have a new M2 stan.

pimp2

Many who were close to Prince stan for M2; look at the media she gets, how wonderful and down to earth she is; she snowed them all.

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It what you do that speaks for you and not your own lips. She does things that are questionable and totally for her own good and it pimps Prince. This woman did nothing for 4 decades. Prince is the one who worked himself to death- literally- and part of his working so much in later years was to pay her divorce settlement. This whole thing with her is so, so, sad.

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Reply #40 posted 12/02/17 10:49am

jaawwnn

Was she using it before he died?

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Reply #41 posted 12/02/17 11:15am

FlyOnTheWall

jaawwnn said:

Was she using it before he died?

I would say, NO. Otherwise, she would have already had the trademark(s), no?

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Reply #42 posted 12/02/17 2:04pm

jaawwnn

Unless she had unoffical permission from Prince to use it and was trying to make it official - Its not like handshake deals from Prince havent already led to problems since his passing. Just a theory, I have no real opinion on her either way.
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Reply #43 posted 12/02/17 2:09pm

crimesofparis

So, not sure if this is really the debate here, but you typically cannot trademark a song title. You CAN trademark the name of an organization.

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So, if you were wondering just generally how that was possible, that's how. Honestly more surprising she didn't do it sooner.

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Reply #44 posted 12/02/17 5:39pm

laurarichardso
n

jaawwnn said:

Unless she had unoffical permission from Prince to use it and was trying to make it official - Itsto not like handshake deals from Prince havent already led to problems since his passing. Just a theory, I have no real opinion on her sther way.

Why keep making excuses her? According to Dr. Funkenberry he delivered messages between the two because Prince stopped speaking to her

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Reply #45 posted 12/02/17 6:12pm

sexyisintheima
gination

Prince stopped speaking to her.
If she ever show up to Pasiley like I'm here to...stop turn around go.

You got your Eric and family be happy w dat.

His house of funk Is for the people and artists.

She got hers. Mmmm hum

Prince we wish all the time you could still be a creative force on this earth.
I'm not exaggerating shit went worse in the world when Prince went home.
Who knew he was holding the world under his magic musical energies.
Like nature went nuts this year. Mother Earth like I'm grieving too. I'm mad not more princely funk vibes.
Yep that s how it is
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Reply #46 posted 12/02/17 6:16pm

purplerabbitho
le

I don't know because we don't know much about their relationship at all. But I suspect at that point it wasn't a money issue..but some other reason.

Fury lyrics are interesting considering the Dr. Funkenberry delivering messages thing...

If these lyrics are truely autobiographical (and the timeline is correct), he seems to confirm that he wasnt answering his wife's phone calls (but his reasons aren't motivated by anger) and that she suspected him of cheating and retaliated by cheating herself.

You must have heard it on the news this morning

Congratulations! New star is born

Sun to his shadow, rose to a thorn

There ain't no fury like a woman scorned

You all must have dug it, when you did your thing

It's like a song, everybody want to sing

When the music's over, your ears ring

With a voice that's saying, 'Queen got no King"

He got a message saying, you tried to reach him on the 'phone

He didn't want to answer cuz he's so afraid

You'd probably tell him just to leave u alone

I bet you heard he got another band

They're making money, they're making plans

You feel left out, but you need to understand

Word on the street - he's still your man

Look out, here comes your rainy day

But you think you got a good reason to say what's

Always in your heart, come what may

Even though his might get broken

Who's the guilty one when there ain't no judge or jury?

Shadow to the sun, lets do the one

Hell ain't got no fury

Will this song have a happy ending?

Will his heart need a-mending? What's the name?

Only she knows Only the woman knows.

Two sides to every story

One man's gloom, another man's glory

Sun to his shadow, rose to a thorn

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

Unless she had unoffical permission from Prince to use it and was trying to make it official - Itsto not like handshake deals from Prince havent already led to problems since his passing. Just a theory, I have no real opinion on her sther way.

Why keep making excuses her? According to Dr. Funkenberry he delivered messages between the two because Prince stopped speaking to her

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Reply #47 posted 12/02/17 6:24pm

laurarichardso
n

Money or someone making a booty call is the only reason I can see him not speaking to her. Remember he stayed friends with loads of his old girlfriends.

purplerabbithole said:

I don't know because we don't know much about their relationship at all. But I suspect at that point it wasn't a money issue..but some other reason.

Fury lyrics are interesting considering the Dr. Funkenberry delivering messages thing...

If these lyrics are truely autobiographical (and the timeline is correct), he seems to confirm that he wasnt answering his wife's phone calls (but his reasons aren't motivated by anger) and that she suspected him of cheating and retaliated by cheating herself.

You must have heard it on the news this morning

Congratulations! New star is born

Sun to his shadow, rose to a thorn

There ain't no fury like a woman scorned

You all must have dug it, when you did your thing

It's like a song, everybody want to sing

When the music's over, your ears ring

With a voice that's saying, 'Queen got no King"

He got a message saying, you tried to reach him on the 'phone

He didn't want to answer cuz he's so afraid

You'd probably tell him just to leave u alone

I bet you heard he got another band

They're making money, they're making plans

You feel left out, but you need to understand

Word on the street - he's still your man

Look out, here comes your rainy day

But you think you got a good reason to say what's

Always in your heart, come what may

Even though his might get broken

Who's the guilty one when there ain't no judge or jury?

Shadow to the sun, lets do the one

Hell ain't got no fury

Will this song have a happy ending?

Will his heart need a-mending? What's the name?

Only she knows Only the woman knows.

Two sides to every story

One man's gloom, another man's glory

Sun to his shadow, rose to a thorn

Why keep making excuses her? According to Dr. Funkenberry he delivered messages between the two because Prince stopped speaking to her

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Reply #48 posted 12/02/17 6:32pm

sexyisintheima
gination

Intimacy is not just sexual.
Too many good relationships go bad for lack of communication, trust, commitment.

Monogomy is hard for some people...DNA says some people have a genetic marker to cheat.

No one is perfect. No one can judge.

Prince was human. Still too bad his women couldn't be friends and make peace. Seems Mayte tried to be there and reconcile but too late. She cries and loves him in her interviews. Seems sincere Doesn't speak poorly about his weak points.
Also agrees they had problems. Life is hard relationships require work.
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Reply #49 posted 12/02/17 8:23pm

lezama

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Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #50 posted 12/02/17 8:46pm

DD55

lezama said:

Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.

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I believe the IRS revoked the exempt status because he didn't file tax returns for (I think) 3 years. The last tax return year I could find on line was 2007 and by that time he had given most away (mostly to JW), there was little money left but a lot of real estate holdings. Don't know what happened after 2007.

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Someone please refresh my memory.... When they were talking about opening PP, and the parking issue came up, some suggested that they use other property that P owned. Then it was discovered that "Prince" didn't own the property the Love4OneAnother charity owned it so, it couldn't be used for parking. Am I remembering that correctly?? Does anyone know the status of the property owned by L4OA charities?

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BTW, Kirk was listed as an officer of L4OA on the 2007 tax return. To our legal org'ers: Could Kirk continue to run the charity? Could he decide the disposition of the properties?

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~~DD55

edit spellling

[Edited 12/2/17 20:47pm]

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Reply #51 posted 12/02/17 8:47pm

sexyisintheima
gination

lezama said:

Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.



I'm choosing to avoid all together.

Prince wished for music school and said he would have liked to teach.
Tyka is gonna try to honor that. I'd give to the next generations learning music because even if they don't pursue it as a career, helps develop the brain for math and sciences.

So no I won't support her schools in honor of him either.
Now she's getting Quincy jones some kind of legacy school.
She works to get the cash flow.
I am not judging her by looks. Her energy is off putting.
She seems slimy and untrue. I can feel it.

Back in the day she seemed to radiate love from prince back to him.
Even then some photos he seems engaged and vibrant while she's just watching him.

There's better causes than her either way. She's doing alright. So I avoid
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Reply #52 posted 12/02/17 9:21pm

lezama

avatar

DD55 said:

lezama said:

Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.

.

I believe the IRS revoked the exempt status because he didn't file tax returns for (I think) 3 years. The last tax return year I could find on line was 2007 and by that time he had given most away (mostly to JW), there was little money left but a lot of real estate holdings. Don't know what happened after 2007.

.

Someone please refresh my memory.... When they were talking about opening PP, and the parking issue came up, some suggested that they use other property that P owned. Then it was discovered that "Prince" didn't own the property the Love4OneAnother charity owned it so, it couldn't be used for parking. Am I remembering that correctly?? Does anyone know the status of the property owned by L4OA charities?

.

BTW, Kirk was listed as an officer of L4OA on the 2007 tax return. To our legal org'ers: Could Kirk continue to run the charity? Could he decide the disposition of the properties?

.

~~DD55

edit spellling

[Edited 12/2/17 20:47pm]

I don't know MN law, or if they would have had to have formal legal proceeding to dissolve the foundation, but without their charitable status after 2007 they wouldn't have been able to receive money in a tax-deductible manner, so wouldn't have a way to operate. Some foundations are set up to automatically dissolve through the spending down of all assets, which may be what happened there if they gave everything to JW's after the divorce. I can't imagine the L4OA accounts still having assets after all these years without an IRS charitable tax status, but I guess anything's possible. If they did, and the entity was still in existence, I would assume Kirk would still have legal rights over assets, but I'm only familiar with how things work in NY and DC/MD/VA.

[Edited 12/2/17 21:22pm]

Change it one more time..
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Reply #53 posted 12/02/17 10:11pm

laurarichardso
n

DD55 said:



lezama said:


Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.



.


I believe the IRS revoked the exempt status because he didn't file tax returns for (I think) 3 years. The last tax return year I could find on line was 2007 and by that time he had given most away (mostly to JW), there was little money left but a lot of real estate holdings. Don't know what happened after 2007.


.


Someone please refresh my memory.... When they were talking about opening PP, and the parking issue came up, some suggested that they use other property that P owned. Then it was discovered that "Prince" didn't own the property the Love4OneAnother charity owned it so, it couldn't be used for parking. Am I remembering that correctly?? Does anyone know the status of the property owned by L4OA charities?


.


BTW, Kirk was listed as an officer of L4OA on the 2007 tax return. To our legal org'ers: Could Kirk continue to run the charity? Could he decide the disposition of the properties?


.


~~DD55


edit spellling

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Where did you see the tax status was revoked? I thought he simply shut it down after the divorce. The one tax form I saw listed donations going to individual like Rhonda Smith and Eric Benet’s touring company. L4OA as purchased the church that Patrick Cousins stole and Prince did not give all of his money to the JWs. After L4OA he had Van Jones help him find charities to give money to.
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Reply #54 posted 12/02/17 11:34pm

sexyisintheima
gination

lezama said:



DD55 said:




lezama said:


Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.



.


I believe the IRS revoked the exempt status because he didn't file tax returns for (I think) 3 years. The last tax return year I could find on line was 2007 and by that time he had given most away (mostly to JW), there was little money left but a lot of real estate holdings. Don't know what happened after 2007.


.


Someone please refresh my memory.... When they were talking about opening PP, and the parking issue came up, some suggested that they use other property that P owned. Then it was discovered that "Prince" didn't own the property the Love4OneAnother charity owned it so, it couldn't be used for parking. Am I remembering that correctly?? Does anyone know the status of the property owned by L4OA charities?


.


BTW, Kirk was listed as an officer of L4OA on the 2007 tax return. To our legal org'ers: Could Kirk continue to run the charity? Could he decide the disposition of the properties?


.


~~DD55


edit spellling


[Edited 12/2/17 20:47pm]



I don't know MN law, or if they would have had to have formal legal proceeding to dissolve the foundation, but without their charitable status after 2007 they wouldn't have been able to receive money in a tax-deductible manner, so wouldn't have a way to operate. Some foundations are set up to automatically dissolve through the spending down of all assets, which may be what happened there if they gave everything to JW's after the divorce. I can't imagine the L4OA accounts still having assets after all these years without an IRS charitable tax status, but I guess anything's possible. If they did, and the entity was still in existence, I would assume Kirk would still have legal rights over assets, but I'm only familiar with how things work in NY and DC/MD/VA.

[Edited 12/2/17 21:22pm]




Kirk's interview revealed that he was hiding. Not just to protect prince who was private. I wonder about Kirk's character...
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Reply #55 posted 12/03/17 1:40am

rogifan

lezama said:



DD55 said:




lezama said:


Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.



.


I believe the IRS revoked the exempt status because he didn't file tax returns for (I think) 3 years. The last tax return year I could find on line was 2007 and by that time he had given most away (mostly to JW), there was little money left but a lot of real estate holdings. Don't know what happened after 2007.


.


Someone please refresh my memory.... When they were talking about opening PP, and the parking issue came up, some suggested that they use other property that P owned. Then it was discovered that "Prince" didn't own the property the Love4OneAnother charity owned it so, it couldn't be used for parking. Am I remembering that correctly?? Does anyone know the status of the property owned by L4OA charities?


.


BTW, Kirk was listed as an officer of L4OA on the 2007 tax return. To our legal org'ers: Could Kirk continue to run the charity? Could he decide the disposition of the properties?


.


~~DD55


edit spellling


[Edited 12/2/17 20:47pm]



I don't know MN law, or if they would have had to have formal legal proceeding to dissolve the foundation, but without their charitable status after 2007 they wouldn't have been able to receive money in a tax-deductible manner, so wouldn't have a way to operate. Some foundations are set up to automatically dissolve through the spending down of all assets, which may be what happened there if they gave everything to JW's after the divorce. I can't imagine the L4OA accounts still having assets after all these years without an IRS charitable tax status, but I guess anything's possible. If they did, and the entity was still in existence, I would assume Kirk would still have legal rights over assets, but I'm only familiar with how things work in NY and DC/MD/VA.

[Edited 12/2/17 21:22pm]


There are two parcels of land across the street from Paisley Park that show the charity as the owner and the care of owner being Bremer Trust.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #56 posted 12/03/17 2:09am

wonder505

lezama said:

Well the original foundation was badly run if we're being honest, which is why the IRS revoked it's exempt status. At least someone can put some use to it's potential.



But why her? Shes his ex-wife. Out of all the people in the world and what made her race to do that? What made her think to do that so soon after he died? Was his family aware and gave their blessings? Thats just a gap for me.
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Reply #57 posted 12/03/17 5:56am

DD55

rogifan said:

lezama said:

I don't know MN law, or if they would have had to have formal legal proceeding to dissolve the foundation, but without their charitable status after 2007 they wouldn't have been able to receive money in a tax-deductible manner, so wouldn't have a way to operate. Some foundations are set up to automatically dissolve through the spending down of all assets, which may be what happened there if they gave everything to JW's after the divorce. I can't imagine the L4OA accounts still having assets after all these years without an IRS charitable tax status, but I guess anything's possible. If they did, and the entity was still in existence, I would assume Kirk would still have legal rights over assets, but I'm only familiar with how things work in NY and DC/MD/VA.

[Edited 12/2/17 21:22pm]

There are two parcels of land across the street from Paisley Park that show the charity as the owner and the care of owner being Bremer Trust.

rogifan, when you discovered the owners of the two parcels of property was it on the official tax rolls listing? Can you look at historical tax assessment rolls? I'm interested to know if there is a difference in property tax status after 2007 and the differences in taxes paid on the property? If it's still owned by L4OA then someone has been paying the property taxes all these years or it would have been taken over by the town/county. The tax exempt/non exempt status of the property and when that might have changed might tell us more about the status. Just guessing and just cruious.

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Peace ~~DD55

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Reply #58 posted 12/03/17 6:24am

jaawwnn

laurarichardson said:



jaawwnn said:


Unless she had unoffical permission from Prince to use it and was trying to make it official - Itsto not like handshake deals from Prince havent already led to problems since his passing. Just a theory, I have no real opinion on her sther way.

Why keep making excuses her? According to Dr. Funkenberry he delivered messages between the two because Prince stopped speaking to her


You still here? I asked a question, that's all.
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Reply #59 posted 12/03/17 9:08am

SoulAlive

laurarichardson said:

purplemist7777 said:

laurarichardson said: MANUELA applied for the trademark 6 days after he passed. She also applied for FingerPrince.

What the hell is " FingerPrince" What is this women doing?

"FingerPrince" lol falloff that's funny

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