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BBC Interview with Tyka that is a bit longer with a bit more info.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b099vzcp

Full interview is here, after the 2 hour mark. Around 2hr8mins.

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Reply #1 posted 10/27/17 9:14am

paulludvig

She could perhaps be more spesific about his troubles the last couple of years of his life.
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Reply #2 posted 10/27/17 11:28am

fmarasco

This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.

He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.

If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.

In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.

[Edited 10/27/17 11:30am]

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fmarasco said:

This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.

He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.

If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.

In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.

[Edited 10/27/17 11:30am]

What psycho babble! He was a short guy whose heels did not really give him too much height and he said the ladies liked the heels. I kind of thing you are really running with something.

People are capable of having joint problems,arithithis and other issues that can just happen or is just hereditary and has nothing to do with wearing heels.

I doubt he knew he was going to od on mislabled pills 3 years ahead and I doubt Prince sent her a picture and a song about O.Ding.

I am sure they spoke during those 3 years and I bet it was not about pain pills while he recorded music, toured, worked with people, traveled, and did after shows. Maybe he was just going to pass and nothing could be done.

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Reply #4 posted 10/27/17 1:16pm

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fmarasco said:

This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.


He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.


If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.



In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.


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I didn't read this as psycho babble at all.
Very honest and kind words...as you say it's speculation but I agree with your assessment. He worked tirelessly for us, the fans. And yes he paid the price for the splits and jumps. There could have been different outcomes if he sought help, but that's all hindsight now.
The music world truly changed the day he died. I know mine did, too.
"Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham
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Reply #5 posted 10/27/17 1:23pm

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laurarichardson said:



fmarasco said:


This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.


He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.


If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.



In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.



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What psycho babble! He was a short guy whose heels did not really give him too much height and he said the ladies liked the heels. I kind of thing you are really running with something.



People are capable of having joint problems,arithithis and other issues that can just happen or is just hereditary and has nothing to do with wearing heels.



I doubt he knew he was going to od on mislabled pills 3 years ahead and I doubt Prince sent her a picture and a song about O.Ding.



I am sure they spoke during those 3 years and I bet it was not about pain pills while he recorded music, toured, worked with people, traveled, and did after shows. Maybe he was just going to pass and nothing could be done.


It's not psycho babble at all! And he didn't day that P knew he'd die because of an overdose three years later.
His Theorie can be possibility too, not only what you say!
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Reply #6 posted 10/27/17 1:39pm

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XNY said:

fmarasco said:

This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.


He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.


If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.



In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.


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I didn't read this as psycho babble at all.
Very honest and kind words...as you say it's speculation but I agree with your assessment. He worked tirelessly for us, the fans. And yes he paid the price for the splits and jumps. There could have been different outcomes if he sought help, but that's all hindsight now.
The music world truly changed the day he died. I know mine did, too.

—We have no access to his medical files and no way of knowing his health issues. The only think we know from the search warrants is that Dr.S was seeing for joint pain. I know you do not need medical test to tell you that you have joint pain and Dr. S was not an addiction specialist.
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Reply #7 posted 10/27/17 2:04pm

BlueShakooo

Tyka seems to be a really nice person.
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Reply #8 posted 10/27/17 4:37pm

paulludvig

Her statements didn't really seem to be related to drug issues. Maybe there was something else going on.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #9 posted 10/27/17 5:12pm

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BlueShakooo said:

Tyka seems to be a really nice person.

But also strange. (I'll keep reason for that to myself, bc it's subtle and someone here will misunderstand)


Further, she says 'He told me' [he was dying]. She's deliberately being cryptic when she could tell more.



The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #10 posted 10/27/17 5:13pm

fortuneandsere
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Love how some people automatically jump to conclusion 'oh it must have been a terminal illness'.

Maybe, just maybe he was dealing with bone pain and opiate withdrawal issues 3 yrs prior as well. In light of what we know now, I would say pain issues and opiate dependence are still the
likelier explanation.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #11 posted 10/27/17 5:14pm

fortuneandsere
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^^ Some people do take opiates for pain relief. Just so I don't get misquoted by laurarichardson again.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #12 posted 10/27/17 5:20pm

ThatWhiteDude

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fortuneandserendipity said:

BlueShakooo said:

Tyka seems to be a really nice person.

But also strange. (I'll keep reason for that to myself, bc it's subtle and someone here will misunderstand)


Further, she says 'He told me' [he was dying]. She's deliberately being cryptic when she could tell more.



lol lol

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Reply #13 posted 10/27/17 6:56pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:

^^ Some people do take opiates for pain relief. Just so I don't get misquoted by laurarichardson again.


You only have yourself to blame for your issues. He predicted he was going to die 3 years ahead? All those associates who said we did not know the whole story after we knew about the drugs? Nah I think you do not know what to do know that drug narrative is going out the window. We know what Prince wanted us to know.
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Reply #14 posted 10/27/17 6:57pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:



fortuneandserendipity said:




BlueShakooo said:


Tyka seems to be a really nice person.

But also strange. (I'll keep reason for that to myself, bc it's subtle and someone here will misunderstand)



Further, she says 'He told me' [he was dying]. She's deliberately being cryptic when she could tell more.






lol lol


He told me is so complicated!
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Reply #15 posted 10/27/17 7:10pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Love how some people automatically jump to conclusion 'oh it must have been a terminal illness'.

Maybe, just maybe he was dealing with bone pain and opiate withdrawal issues 3 yrs prior as well. In light of what we know now, I would say pain issues and opiate dependence are still the
likelier explanation.



I agree and have rarely during these months thought it was anything else.
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Reply #16 posted 10/28/17 3:08am

MMJas

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fortuneandserendipity said:

BlueShakooo said:

Tyka seems to be a really nice person.

But also strange. (I'll keep reason for that to myself, bc it's subtle and someone here will misunderstand)


Further, she says 'He told me' [he was dying]. She's deliberately being cryptic when she could tell more.



If you intend to publish a book, you're not going to give out the biggest information before publishing it, right? I mean, that's the million dollar question: what was wrong with Prince and why did he die?
Everyone else is writing books but ir seems she's the only one who can answer this very important question. The book deals should be flying in, I reckon...

And no, I'm not making this about money, just saying she's the one who can write the very book that everyone is most interested in and that it would be self-defeating to talk about the important stuff.

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Reply #17 posted 10/28/17 5:01am

paulludvig

fortuneandserendipity said:

BlueShakooo said:

Tyka seems to be a really nice person.

But also strange. (I'll keep reason for that to myself, bc it's subtle and someone here will misunderstand)


Further, she says 'He told me' [he was dying]. She's deliberately being cryptic when she could tell more.



????

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #18 posted 10/28/17 6:32am

rogifan

If Prince didn’t want the public to know why should his family disclose it now? Just because some fans can’t seem to find ‘closure’ without knowing all the details? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it is my firm belief that the family isn’t responsible for providing ‘closure’ for fans. They need to work that out for themselves.
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Reply #19 posted 10/28/17 11:57am

Purplemoon6

XNY said:

fmarasco said:

This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.

He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.

If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.

In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.

[Edited 10/27/17 11:30am]

I didn't read this as psycho babble at all. Very honest and kind words...as you say it's speculation but I agree with your assessment. He worked tirelessly for us, the fans. And yes he paid the price for the splits and jumps. There could have been different outcomes if he sought help, but that's all hindsight now. The music world truly changed the day he died. I know mine did, too.

yeahthat

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rogifan said:

If Prince didn’t want the public to know why should his family disclose it now? Just because some fans can’t seem to find ‘closure’ without knowing all the details? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it is my firm belief that the family isn’t responsible for providing ‘closure’ for fans. They need to work that out for themselves.

—I think it is more about closure for them.
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Reply #21 posted 10/28/17 7:32pm

MIRvmn

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laurarichardson said:



fmarasco said:


This is speculation but based on her comments and what we know about Prince's condition he clearly knew there were issues.


He was addicted to or at the very least needed opiods to manage his addiction/pain. He knew there was risk to his need and there could be tragic results. His deterioating condition could lead to these comments which would kind of be acknowledgement of an issue.


If true it's sad that she did not take those comments as a potential call for help. I mean was everyone in a shell regarding his need for drugs to manage his pain.



In many ways Prince's end is truly a tragic story. His work ethic to provide us music and entertainment was unlimited. A person who was born dimunitive and had an ego that manifested in wearing and performing in high heels. Doing splits and althetic jumps for our entertainment on those heals clearly led to serious issues and pain. In many ways he did die for us....I just wish someone whom was in the inner circle was there to provide help. We lost this generations greatest musician and the music world will never be the same.



[Edited 10/27/17 11:30am]



What psycho babble! He was a short guy whose heels did not really give him too much height and he said the ladies liked the heels. I kind of thing you are really running with something.



People are capable of having joint problems,arithithis and other issues that can just happen or is just hereditary and has nothing to do with wearing heels.



I doubt he knew he was going to od on mislabled pills 3 years ahead and I doubt Prince sent her a picture and a song about O.Ding.



I am sure they spoke during those 3 years and I bet it was not about pain pills while he recorded music, toured, worked with people, traveled, and did after shows. Maybe he was just going to pass and nothing could be done.


In earlier interview she claimed she knew for two years, now it's suddenly three years?
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Reply #22 posted 10/28/17 10:20pm

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MIRvmn said:

In earlier interview she claimed she knew for two years, now it's suddenly three years?


It amazes me how many people get hung up on this smile

In October 2016, she first said she knew his death was coming 2 years ago.

We are now in October 2017. It's a year later, so now it's 3 years ago.

Tyka has always been clear about this, but everyone else casts doubt on her because no one goes back to check for dates.

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Reply #23 posted 10/30/17 2:52am

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Mumio said:



MIRvmn said:


In earlier interview she claimed she knew for two years, now it's suddenly three years?


It amazes me how many people get hung up on this smile



In October 2016, she first said she knew his death was coming 2 years ago.


We are now in October 2017. It's a year later, so now it's 3 years ago.



Tyka has always been clear about this, but everyone else casts doubt on her because no one goes back to check for dates.

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— People just do not want to believe he was ill. They want you to believe that he was strung out on pain pills for 30 years but could not have been ill from the damage these pills do to the organs or that Prince was not immune to illness. Tyka is saying she is going to write a book and discuss more yet this tidbit seems lost as well the fact that she worked for him and I guess they never discussed his health or plans after he sent her the e-mail🙄
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Reply #24 posted 10/30/17 8:42am

2045RadicalMat
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Mumio said:

MIRvmn said:

In earlier interview she claimed she knew for two years, now it's suddenly three years?


It amazes me how many people get hung up on this smile

In October 2016, she first said she knew his death was coming 2 years ago.

We are now in October 2017. It's a year later, so now it's 3 years ago.

Tyka has always been clear about this, but everyone else casts doubt on her because no one goes back to check for dates.

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OBVIOUSLY...

of course she'd have to change the date to reflect time. (WHich she believes in)

wink

Anyways... what happened to this thread?

"TYKA CLAIMS PRINCE ASKED HER TO SHARE A PICTURE WITH ANDRE"??

I'm all for useful moderation.... but not moderation that wishes to control open FREE discussion.

Shouldn't be cncelled if it just displeases a section of people.

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

Mumio said:


It amazes me how many people get hung up on this smile

In October 2016, she first said she knew his death was coming 2 years ago.

We are now in October 2017. It's a year later, so now it's 3 years ago.

Tyka has always been clear about this, but everyone else casts doubt on her because no one goes back to check for dates.

[Edited 10/28/17 22:23pm]

OBVIOUSLY...

of course she'd have to change the date to reflect time. (WHich she believes in)

wink

Anyways... what happened to this thread?

"TYKA CLAIMS PRINCE ASKED HER TO SHARE A PICTURE WITH ANDRE"??

I'm all for useful moderation.... but not moderation that wishes to control open FREE discussion.

Shouldn't be cncelled if it just displeases a section of people.

That thread is gone because people do not want to deal with it.

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Reply #26 posted 10/30/17 1:08pm

Mumio

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laurarichardson said:

2045RadicalMattZ said:

OBVIOUSLY...

of course she'd have to change the date to reflect time. (WHich she believes in)

wink

Anyways... what happened to this thread?

"TYKA CLAIMS PRINCE ASKED HER TO SHARE A PICTURE WITH ANDRE"??

I'm all for useful moderation.... but not moderation that wishes to control open FREE discussion.

Shouldn't be cncelled if it just displeases a section of people.

That thread is gone because people do not want to deal with it.


It might have just needed a bit of tidying up and will come back? We'll see I guess.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #27 posted 10/30/17 1:23pm

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Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

That thread is gone because people do not want to deal with it.


It might have just needed a bit of tidying up and will come back? We'll see I guess.

meaning CENSORSHIP?


I don't see what exactly was going wrong with it...but I DID miss it over the weekend.

Anyways, I've gotta track down that BBC interview.

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Reply #28 posted 10/30/17 8:01pm

Mumio

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

Mumio said:


It might have just needed a bit of tidying up and will come back? We'll see I guess.

meaning CENSORSHIP?


I don't see what exactly was going wrong with it...but I DID miss it over the weekend.

Anyways, I've gotta track down that BBC interview.



Meaning that for whatever reason, the mods pulled it and it may come back when they are done doing whatever smile Things that get snipped generally don't add anything to the conversation, it's just us posters get pissed off at each other and talk shit. Happens all the time. It's not anything to get worked up over imo wink

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Reply #29 posted 10/31/17 2:32am

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Now both threads are gone (the chronic pain one too)...

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