TurnItUp said:

Two, three, ten, what difference does it make. He told us in a 2-3 year time window that he was leaving us on ArtOfficial Age. We just didn't read between the lines or want to accept it.

Like I argued with many others that's his sister/family whether they were close or not. I'll admit I dogged Tyka's looks when I first saw her in years back in the recording studio here on the org and some orgers got on my case saying Prince wouldn't appreciate me talking about his sister like that and they were RIGHT and he wouldn't appreciate you haters attacking her. Even if he was private and he wouldn't do what Tyka and others do when he was alive, he would not want you being the one talking in his defense especially his family. CLOSE OR NOT THEY ARE STILL HIS FAMILY!

yes, and thank you for shouting it!!!!!

Reading the responses to Tyka's two/three year claim, reminds me of why Prince hated to be interviewed. People dissect and hold people to standards that are impossible to reach. If I had every communication of mine dissected the way hers are being (and his when he was alive), I am sure I would regularly be caught in contradictions and discrepencies.

There's been a few things said here about her, but damn, the vile things directed her way that I am reading on Facebook and other social media are far and away much worse than anything here. I don't get why people are all over her case.

peppeken said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said:

It's obvious he had cancer and the Afro was a wig

Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

What is she projecting?

Menes said:

Bassette said:

laurarichardson said:

Nuernberg72 said:

his dead is a mystery like his life! I believe in nothing tyka tells. the only one who knows the truth is kirk! Nice day from Germany

You believe the person that lied to the cops and gets on T.V. and laughs like a moron about his best friend's death?

Kirk does not laugh at the death of pince. he laughs at the silly question in the interview. just lokk at it again.

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said:

It's obvious he had cancer and the Afro was a wig

Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

To be honest, I've wrapped my head around both. I can easily see either one being the truth. But I think that the "drug thing", as you call it, is way deeper than that, it's obviously related to his injuries, imo.
We know nothing. At this stage, it can still be either. Or suicide. There's a strong case to be argued for all three scenarios.
But like Laura says, Tyka will reveal it all in her book. Now whether people will believe her, that's another thing entirely...

Nuernberg72 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said:

It's obvious he had cancer and the Afro was a wig

Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

Tyka and no one else for that matter has said he was not dependent on pain killers. I do not know to many people who plan to overdose and die years in advance. In fact most drug addicts want to live to get more drugs and you realize that Prince could afford the best and if need be the best care to get off of them. No reason for him to plan to die because of drugs.

People do know always know the exact time they are going to die if they have a terminal illness and they can decide if they want to check out or not.

If you take the time to listen to the longer interview she said that he sent her a picture and a song and she knew then that he was going to die. She is not projecting her wish for him to die she is telling us he told her he was going to die via his music.

Also I am sure they must have had a follow up conversation because she worked for him for 4 years.

Sometimes you have to think a little bit and realize that if he left her task to complete and she continued to communicate with him she obvisously knew he was ill and going to die.

When people are ill they do have a tendency to take pain meds. Who really cares if they become addicted? The idea is for them to be comfortable in their last time on this earth.

Afro wig, pain meds, and associates saying "we do not know the whole story" would equal cancer.

Also realize some people consider some cancers to be embarassing.

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said:

It's obvious he had cancer and the Afro was a wig

Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

It's harder for some to grasp the drug addict theory because Prince supposedly hated drugs and lived a clean lifestyle. He was never a trouble maker, never a scandal, never in jail (that I know of or remember hearing about). I think one of the biggest newsmakers was when he was suing WB, wore slave on his face and changed to the symbol.

You have to admit, he didn't party hard.

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said: Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

It's harder for some to grasp the drug addict theory because Prince supposedly hated drugs and lived a clean lifestyle. He was never a trouble maker, never a scandal, never in jail (that I know of or remember hearing about). I think one of the biggest newsmakers was when he was suing WB, wore slave on his face and changed to the symbol.

You have to admit, he didn't party hard.

Not one single person has said they saw him high or using drugs until these last months of his life.

Something dramatic happend to make a hard working person like this start using drugs. Going by what Sheila E said about him not liking doctors I could see him trying to medicate himself to keep going to get things done as long as he could.

Remember he had a song up in his studio that he was working on when he died. I just do not see a recreational drug user still so consumed with work.

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

It's harder for some to grasp the drug addict theory because Prince supposedly hated drugs and lived a clean lifestyle. He was never a trouble maker, never a scandal, never in jail (that I know of or remember hearing about). I think one of the biggest newsmakers was when he was suing WB, wore slave on his face and changed to the symbol.

You have to admit, he didn't party hard.

He wasn't an addict in the traditional way, yes, but all we've Seen in pictures could've been the result of opiot addiction, it doesn't have to be cancer. And I refuse to believe what Tyka said until she says more than that cryptic psycho powers crap.

His skin looks yellow on the American Music awards. Does pain pills do that to your skin?

Prince also had been skinny in the past but he always had a little muscle.

You are going to hear more so you had better get ready.

laurarichardson said:

Opiod painkiller addiction is not recreational drug use. It is an addiction to a highly, highly addictive and extremely dangerous painkiller.

Prince was in some kind of extreme pain (possibly hip pain but I don't know) and he started taking painkillers to dull the pain. He became addicted and accidentally overdosed. That is the confirmed cause of death.

Prince, as special as he was to all of us, is just one of many, many people who have died and continue to die in this way in the US every single day.

The opiod epidemic in Amerca is a huge problem that is totally out of control. To get a better understaning of it I suggest reading about it.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/8/15454832/fentanyl-carfentanil-opioid-epidemic

colm said:

Opiod painkiller addiction is not recreational drug use. It is an addiction to a highly, highly addictive and extremely dangerous painkiller.

Prince was in some kind of extreme pain (possibly hip pain but I don't know) and he started taking painkillers to dull the pain. He became addicted and accidentally overdosed. That is the confirmed cause of death.

Prince, as special as he was to all of us, is just one of many, many people who have died and continue to die in this way in the US every single day.

The opiod epidemic in Amerca is a huge problem that is totally out of control. To get a better understaning of it I suggest reading about it.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/8/15454832/fentanyl-carfentanil-opioid-epidemic

We know all of this and no one said he was not taking pain pills. We know what he died from but some of us believe that was not his only problem.

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

peppeken said: Okay, just a question, why is it that this is taken as a fact, but the drug addiction is not? I don't give a fuck what Tyka said, 'cause with what she told US in that Interviews, it just sounds like she is projecting. I'm curious, why can some people wrap their heads around the cancer Theorie, but not around the drug thing? Why? Would they see him as a hypocrite? Is it easier to take when he was sick? It wouldn't change a thing, he still died of an overdose!

Tyka and no one else for that matter has said he was not dependent on pain killers. I do not know to many people who plan to overdose and die years in advance. In fact most drug addicts want to live to get more drugs and you realize that Prince could afford the best and if need be the best care to get off of them. No reason for him to plan to die because of drugs.

People do know always know the exact time they are going to die if they have a terminal illness and they can decide if they want to check out or not.

If you take the time to listen to the longer interview she said that he sent her a picture and a song and she knew then that he was going to die. She is not projecting her wish for him to die she is telling us he told her he was going to die via his music.

Also I am sure they must have had a follow up conversation because she worked for him for 4 years.

Sometimes you have to think a little bit and realize that if he left her task to complete and she continued to communicate with him she obvisously knew he was ill and going to die.

When people are ill they do have a tendency to take pain meds. Who really cares if they become addicted? The idea is for them to be comfortable in their last time on this earth.

Afro wig, pain meds, and associates saying "we do not know the whole story" would equal cancer.

Also realize some people consider some cancers to be embarassing.

Are you sure that was a wig or are you saying that based on what people wrote on this thread? I´m asking because we all saw the different stages of his afro in the last years of his life, and it didn´t look like a wig to me. Not that I really know, just stating my observations here.

edit: Also remember what Kim Berry and that Australian photographer said about his afro...that he would take care of it himself and do his hair and make-up. Of course it´s also possible that they just wanted to hide a secret.

[Edited 11/2/17 9:26am]

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

His skin looks yellow on the American Music awards. Does pain pills do that to your skin?

Prince also had been skinny in the past but he always had a little muscle.

You are going to hear more so you had better get ready.

If they demaged his liver, then yeah, his skin would've looked yellow because of that. EDIT: Just checked it, the pills he took can really demage your liver and make your skin look yellow. And all every other Symptom he had would've been caused by them too. The stomach pain, that he couldn't keep his food down, the throat problems, every freaking Symptom he had, could've been cause by them pills. [Edited 11/2/17 9:07am]

I have watched this show Intervention and they have followed people around who are abusing pain meds and none of those people had yellow skin and looked the way Prince looked at that Atlanta show.

If something was wrong with his organs he would of had to stop taking pain meds immediatly and we did get some stories that said he was trying to withdraw which would have been impossible to do wihtout being under a doctor's care.

We are getting to many associates saying we do not know the whole story. There is more to it then just drug addiction.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

colm said:

Opiod painkiller addiction is not recreational drug use. It is an addiction to a highly, highly addictive and extremely dangerous painkiller.

Prince was in some kind of extreme pain (possibly hip pain but I don't know) and he started taking painkillers to dull the pain. He became addicted and accidentally overdosed. That is the confirmed cause of death.

Prince, as special as he was to all of us, is just one of many, many people who have died and continue to die in this way in the US every single day.

The opiod epidemic in Amerca is a huge problem that is totally out of control. To get a better understaning of it I suggest reading about it.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/8/15454832/fentanyl-carfentanil-opioid-epidemic

We know all of this and no one said he was not taking pain pills. We know what he died from but some of us believe that was not his only problem.

I'm just stating the facts purely because anything else about wigs and cancer is pure conjecture. This thread started with Tykas claims that she knew years in advance that Prince was dying. Until I see solid, medical evidence of this I will consider his death and appearance prior to death as being a result of painkiller addiction and overdose.

[Edited 11/2/17 9:53am]

laurarichardson said:

Nuernberg72 said:

Kirk does not laugh at the death of pince. he laughs at the silly question in the interview. just lokk at it again.

—His response was inappropriate and of course you do not acknowledge what the police say about him in the search warrants.

Why does Kirk always take the hit alone?

Dont forget MERON was also at the scene and was also evasive.

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said: If they demaged his liver, then yeah, his skin would've looked yellow because of that. EDIT: Just checked it, the pills he took can really demage your liver and make your skin look yellow. And all every other Symptom he had would've been caused by them too. The stomach pain, that he couldn't keep his food down, the throat problems, every freaking Symptom he had, could've been cause by them pills. [Edited 11/2/17 9:07am]

I have watched this show Intervention and they have followed people around who are abusing pain meds and none of those people had yellow skin and looked the way Prince looked at that Atlanta show.

If something was wrong with his organs he would of had to stop taking pain meds immediatly and we did get some stories that said he was trying to withdraw which would have been impossible to do wihtout being under a doctor's care.

We are getting to many associates saying we do not know the whole story. There is more to it then just drug addiction.

Whatever the whole story is, we don't know it. Even if it was dependence on painkillers for chronic pain, there is still much we don't know.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

I have watched this show Intervention and they have followed people around who are abusing pain meds and none of those people had yellow skin and looked the way Prince looked at that Atlanta show.

If something was wrong with his organs he would of had to stop taking pain meds immediatly and we did get some stories that said he was trying to withdraw which would have been impossible to do wihtout being under a doctor's care.

We are getting to many associates saying we do not know the whole story. There is more to it then just drug addiction.

Look it up, he took percocet, right? They CAN make your skin look yellow! I just checked it! AGAIN: "I checked it! And the warrent states that P tried to withdraw alone, he had a series of symptoms because of that.

It is liver failure that makes your skin turn yellow and the only reason he would have to withdraw alone and immediatley would be due to organ failure. Otherwise he could have weened himself off.

Also supect he might have been having some sucess with the withdrawasl because he traveld so much in those last months. Who can travel with constant vomiting,crappying, and chills. Have you listened to the boots from the P&M shows. He does not miss a note and the only show he ran off stage was when he found out about Vanity in Australia which the promoter has said he was extremly upset about but other then that incident he was fine. The promoter even said Prince stayed in Australia an extra week to the due additional shows and he had to have another piano flown into Australia.

He sat around in a hotel for an extra week and waited for the piano yet he was also going thru withdrawals?

The withdrawal story is either bull, he had already beat the pain pills or he incresed his use due to relaspe or additional pain but the story that is being told makes no sense at all.

[Edited 11/2/17 11:32am]

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

It is liver failure that makes your skin turn yellow and the only reason he would have to withdraw alone and immediatley would be due to organ failure. Otherwise he could have weened himself off.

Also supect he might have been having some sucess with the withdrawal because he traveld so much in those last months. Who can travel with constant vomiting and crappying?

The warrent stated that he had withdraw symptoms, remember that they said he had the flu? Runny nose, throat problems and Stomach pain are symptoms of withdraws too. They didn't talk about the symptoms you just stated.

Constant vomiting and craping are a part of withdrawals. Even the chef said that he did not start asking for soups and smoothies until January. They also said he complained about his stomach hurting. So something was going on with this stomach.