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The pirouette was one of Prince's signature moves. And know she takes credit for teaching it to him? The wooh is on the one! | |
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She did take ballet. This definately wasn't a move he was doing on the 1999 Controversy or Dirty Mind tour you see him doing it on the Parade tour and after And so what? They were kissing singing fucking drawing together . Check out New Power Soul-2017 .
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He did spins before the PR tour? Probably got that from James Brown. Did she take ballet the same way W&L studied classical music? At what conservatory? The wooh is on the one! | |
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Splits?
I don't ever remember him doing that type of ballet spin before the PR tour James Brown did not do ballet spins Remember Prince did not do a LOT of dancing prior to 1984 He was mostly on his guitar. . Paul lol out of all the threads why do you focus on all things Melvoin lol
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I guess the Melvoins made Prince a better dancer. He wasn't worth much on his own. As we all know. The wooh is on the one! | |
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Once again Prince took ballet lessons from an art group in Minneapolis when he was a teen. You also realize that many football and basketball players sometimes to take ballet to learn how to leap.
It took ballet classes before he met her. He knew about jazz before the Melvoins or Leeds came along as his dad was a jazz musician. I am sure from the letter that was up for auction from when he was 20 he had excellent penmanship before he met her. Unless Sue flew out to minneapolis from high school to help Prince with his penmanship when he was 20 year old grown man. She is full of B.S.
She is lucky his family is so clueless. If he were my relative she would go some place and shut up.
Dancers recall Prince as ...ballet ...
May 5, 2016 - While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program. It connected students “who didn't fit into the traditional academic world” with local arts institutions, explained Minnesota Dance Theatre (MDT) artistic director Lise Houlton. Prince took
http://www.startribune.com/dancers-recall-prince-as-a-hard-working-darling-in-tights-and-ballet-slippers/378179261/
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He asked her to show him how to do that particular ballet move. This really should not be such a blow up debate. Most of that article was during the preperation for the PR movie filming. During the same PR period. Just because someone took a class when they were young doesn't mean they have mastered the art of Ballet. So he asked her to refresh him on 1 particular move? so what?
. Oh so that's it, you want to be in Prince's family.
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First I don't recall her ever saying she "taught" Prince his lovely handwriting. I heard that she too liked to write pretty as a kid. I used to do the same thing--practice my handwriting just for fun with my best friend after school in 5th grade.
Secondly, her teaching him how to perfect a move does not take away from his ability/artistry. He chose to brush up on his ballet moves, he chose to master a spin so that it would better his stage presense.
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You're like a one woman reality show! i think we should do an "Angry PrinceFam" reality show with you as the focus point. |
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Count on prince.org to turn a beautiful interview into a negative one  |
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Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out
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THIS
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Zannaloaf said:
You're like a one woman reality show! i think we should do an "Angry PrinceFam" reality show with you as the focus point. No I think the ex-employees of Prince should have their own reality show. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out
Why can't people appreciate everybody |
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Strawberrylova123 said: OldFriends4Sale said:
Type Melvoin in the title and the trolls come out
Why can't people appreciate everybody --Please explain what some people should be appreciated for? | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: * Not involved in his life for 30yrs? They continued to be friends the whole of Prince's life.
1. the note about the ballet 0+> wrote to Susannah in 1995 and then asked her to write him back. It is clear they continued to communicate
3. He's had her on stage with him @ Paisley Park in 1989 during the US Lovesexy tour with Wendy & Lisa, he's had Susannah on stage with W & L during the ONA period to do A Love Bizarre and another song. Dedicated In This Bed I Scream to her Lisa & W on Emanicipation. Had her as one of the women on a possible all woman band in 1998 via the One video hidden messages . . * According to Denise Matthews she got rid of all of that stuff when she had her conversion. I cannot see her holding onto that stuff..
I got rid of all the lingerie and cleaned house,” she explained.
http://www.mustardseedstories.com/demons-wanted-me-the-testimony-of-denise-matthews-formerly-known-as-vanity/
The experience led to her religious conversion, as she said that she’d received a vision from Jesus as she lay dying. She said that God wanted her to metaphorically “kill” Vanity and she did, reportedly discarding every interview or recording of herself as the sexed-up pop star, distancing herself from the entertainment world, and going by her given name only: Denise Matthews.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-holy-saga-of-vanity-princes-muse-who-found-god
Sal I seem to remember Prince had called Susannah out of love, and Susannah as usual used words that came across strangely and Prince reacted. He was extremely sensitive and sometines injured easily. Then they didn't speak again. Theres an interview somewhere on the Org with her shortly after his passing in which I could tell this was the case. I'm sorry but as much as I love Susannah when she started selling Starfish and Coffee T Shirts right after his passing (wasn't she the first to do something like that?) that really rubbed me the wrong way. Not trying to judge her, I just don't see Damaris or Andy or Lala selling his stuff. I do believe it's about the money and publicity, even though she might have some heart strings tied up in it. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Vashtix Vashtix Vashtix
We know from previous threads that you have a 'romantic' connection with Denise & Prince.
Pimping Prince? How can anyone 'pimp' Prince? He is dead. Will they be respected and cared for? or will they be lost forever in the passage of time?
Prince and Denise Matthews were no longer lovers. Prince was married twice and Denise was married twice. That would constitute adultery, even if there was just an emotional-romantic bond. Denise wouldn't be down with that. . And the pissing on the grave thing. really? Watch and learn? Listen and be deceived? huh? It is true that if things weren't sold to people who really want them, they might get lost in time, and it might be better to have them sold. I do think if someone doesn't want them anymore then they can sell them. I guess personally I can't relate to that since Prince means so much to me and even though I'd have memories I would also keep the mementos until my own passing. Maybe that would be selfish of me. It's not the action I'm looking at so much as the motive. I just wish people would be honest. "I have my memories and other things from that period of my life. I really need or would rather have the money and know there are people who will take good care of these items." | |
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He asked her to show him how to do that particular ballet move. This really should not be such a blow up debate. Most of that article was during the preperation for the PR movie filming. During the same PR period. Just because someone took a class when they were young doesn't mean they have mastered the art of Ballet. So he asked her to refresh him on 1 particular move? so what?
. Oh so that's it, you want to be in Prince's family.
No one said he mastered Ballet. I said he took classes as a youth and that Suzi Q is overstating her involvement. What does my simply stating what is factual have to do with wanting to be in Prince's family? What does that comment have to do with this discussion? I do not give a fuck about who Prince got with or recorded with and have never implied anything of the sort. You think everyone that calls out the leeches is envious of the leeches? Why would I be envious of a women who does not work and who continually carries on about her boyfriend from 30 years ago who ran around her the entire time they were together. If she was smart she would knock it off and stop embarrassing herself. [Edited 9/26/17 3:12am] | |
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It's mostly a symptom of their own heart | |
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I posted it on post #24 I don't think it was anything disrespectful. She was tending to her children, she said Prince was never in her space at such a moment trying to put them to bed. . The Starfish & Coffee items came as a result of a random person capitalizing off the song and making money. It had nothing to do with Prince's passing. . Damaris & Lala might not have anything, Damaris didn't date Prince, (I still don't know what is or isn't with Lala-she really has no 'spot' in the vision outside of 'acting' in a Prince video with QTip) Also Andy is more 'recent'. There is no real 'history' yet to her and Prince. Very much a part of fun time on the 2nd 1/2 of Welcome 2 tours. But I think 'items' from earlier time periods might have more weight in value, financial or historic. Also Susannah is older that those other 3 in their 20s. An older person will view life and items much different than young women.
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It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue. The emotional attachment to things is very strong. . Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something. The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc. He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally. . I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving. The time needed for each individual is going to be different. But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem. . My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that. You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff. But being 70something and living light affected it. The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it. But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings. . I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover. I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow. | |
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But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him? . If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love. . Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave. Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)
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Exactly. It was a cute, minor story about Susannah and Prince pirhouetting in the street one night 30+ years ago. I can't imagine any rational person becoming enraged by that innocuous anecdote.
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I posted it on post #24 I don't think it was anything disrespectful. She was tending to her children, she said Prince was never in her space at such a moment trying to put them to bed. . The Starfish & Coffee items came as a result of a random person capitalizing off the song and making money. It had nothing to do with Prince's passing. . Damaris & Lala might not have anything, Damaris didn't date Prince, (I still don't know what is or isn't with Lala-she really has no 'spot' in the vision outside of 'acting' in a Prince video with QTip) Also Andy is more 'recent'. There is no real 'history' yet to her and Prince. Very much a part of fun time on the 2nd 1/2 of Welcome 2 tours. But I think 'items' from earlier time periods might have more weight in value, financial or historic. Also Susannah is older that those other 3 in their 20s. An older person will view life and items much different than young women.
Ok now with all due respect I have a different perspective of all of this. First, this is what Susannah said (you posted this in reply #24): Susannah: My last contact with him was about the name of our band. He stopped talking to me. Completely. We’ve always talked throughout the years. But when it came to that it was the reason he’ll never talk to me again? Susannah: We all tried to tell them that. The last time we spoke he heard my kids in the background, and my youngest one was little at the time, he said, “Is this a bad time?” I said, “No. I’m about to put my kids to sleep.” He had never actually heard that part of my world. It wasn’t a bad time. I said, “They are my concern but you have my time right now. “ He didn’t like that. He told Paul I was belligerent and that was enough for him. That’s 25 years of a friendship of sorts. I wouldn’t call it a real friendship. Prince said, “I’m done. I’m not going to speak to her. I’m only going to speak with you Paul,” And he had never spoken to Paul in any of the years. Ever. What she was saying was this: "My kids are more important than you, but..." That wasn't the response of a friend. The response of a friends would be something like this: "I have to put the kids to bed but I really want to talk. Can I call you back in a half hour or tomorrow?" She also says that Prince had "never heard this part of my life before." What she is telling us without meaning to is that she knew this would hurt him because either he'd know she was trying to show off or make him jealous and Prince didn't dig that stuff, or maybe even there was a bit of regret that he didn't have that in his life. Remember, she knew Prince well and he her, and she knew what buttons to push With him, and she and some others were also bitter towards him as we know from the way they talked about him so often before he died. Now Prince forgives all of that now, and may have not always been good to her, we don't know, but it seems like old resentment was always brewing with her and some others. 2nd, I don't understand what that means, that the selling of the tee-shirts was a "random person capitalizing off the song." Am I missing something? I always thought she just started selling them right after he died. 3rd, I know the more recent girls are more recent, but Andy has his ear clips I think, Damaris as a friend only must have eons of photos and more, and Lala must have photos and other things too. Lala does capitalize somewhat by telling us things constantly about him but none of these girls have sold things that would still hold high value to Purple Fam and collectors. The only difference I see is that the older ones are farther away from the years they were at their most active, creative and lucrative! 
Just putting my perspective out there to be honest. [Edited 9/26/17 6:43am] [Edited 9/26/17 6:45am] | |
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It depends. I look at 'possessions' much differently now, especially after having dealt with an aunt who has a hording issue. The emotional attachment to things is very strong. . Before I bought my home, I lived in a house that was family owned since their Italian grandmother bought it in 1940 something. The manys father passed away a few months after I moved in. The man/son for years just would not remove anything, update the house(outside of where I lived-I just would update it and tell him) But old rocking horse in the basement, the grandmothers things in the attic, couldn't touch the rosebushes -even though a weed tree was growing right up in the middle of one etc. He didn't live there physically, but he was still tied their emotionally. . I think the holding on of things or the letting go of things during a loss or greiving process will always be different for each person. There cannot be a set pattern for grieving. The time needed for each individual is going to be different. But if someone is still stuck in process 20yrs later, that is not healthy. But also depending on what it is, if someone shuts down and 'tries' to cut off very early, I don't think that is healthy either, but more understandable. 'Love your neighbor as yourself' If someone is lashing out at people, hurting people etc as a part of their grieving or holding on to the deceased, that is a serious problem. . My cousin passed away from cancer a few years ago. I watched her parents deal with that. You would think people would hold onto a lot of stuff. But being 70something and living light affected it. The kept all pictures though, and they had one of those 'amusement' park pastel portraits she did when she was young, they kept that and framed it. But I talked them about how they processed it. And it was too much stuff was painful to hold on to, they gave a lot of items to her siblings. . I'm going to hold onto things from people I 'physically-intimately' know much easier than a 'star' I love Prince as much as you can someone you don't know, but it would be easier for me to part with 'Prince' items vs my parents siblings friend or lover. I do think about what is going to happen to my Prince collection (albums, cds, photos and my own 'vault' of unreleased music) if I don't wake up tomorrow. Yes there is a balance about what to hold on to and what to let go of. Here's a thought: if Susannah can let go of love notes and a marriage proposal from someone who's both a star and a past love, why not just give them away? | |
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IMO, of the women, the ones who've been the most respectful are Damaris and Bria. The whole topic though is kind of a double-edged issue, because there would also be less to know or have about Prince without those who talk and sell things. 😀 [Edited 9/26/17 6:57am] | |
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But you are implying it. By saying he took a class or two in 'middle school' that he needed no one else to teach him or refresh him. So should we be similarly upset with the people at the Dance school in 1984 who talked about teaching him? . I am saying in plain English she is mentioning it to get attention for herself. She is attentioning seeking.
The people at the dance program are teachers they are suppose to teach.
If you look at it in the content of while he and the band(s) are taking these dance instructions in 1984, Prince & Susannah walking down a quiet street and Prince saying "I need to get that move down, show it to me again" and they are twirling in the street. How is that such a cause of contention? I mean this is what happens in real life and love.
Not contention. It is just Suzi Q inserting herself when she does not have to. . Well you say you are a women, and I can understand your reaction to other women who actually had a relationship with Prince and how you think they should be behave. Yeah you do 'give a fuck' with who Prince got with, that is why you knew of Lala(who?) and that she and Prince were supposedly having sex(while he was either celebate or with Bria Valente)
So all women who call out his old girlfriends are angry because they did not get to sleep with Prince? Not the fact that I am commenting on asshat behavior an example would be Marva King and her crazy ass post. So know women can comment on anything these crazy chicks are saying unless we are envious? Do you realize how that comes across and how you come across for going there?
I know who La La is because she mentioned on this board prior to that I had no idea who she was. I checked out her Facebook and IG because she said some really nice things about him and for a while was the only person who knew him who came right out and said the rumors were B.S. You know something a friend should do. I do not know or care if she was having sex with Prince and she never said anything of the sort. We just know when she was around because of the videos she was in. Dr. Funkenberry even posted some still shots from some of the vids she did so he knows her as well.
One thing La La is not doing is making a living off of Prince's memory which I guess is why you do not who she is.
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Because she also knows the importance of stuff in the 'canon' of Prince history?
The RR auction is about curators, people who will know how to 'keep' / 'preserve' items for the future. I thought to myself too, why not give them to Paisley Park. But for some reason I think PP is still too wishy washy.
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She would not make any money if she gave them away. She could have given this stuff to Paisely Park. | |
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