MMJas said:

rogifan said:

MMJas said:

But in all honesty, what do you expect from a guy who makes a living pretending to be Prince? Do you serioulsy believe there will be an ounce of originality in this band? The choice for the lead part was a terrible mistake because it makes it look like a Vegas act.

I’m going to wait to hear it. I’m not going to pre-judge based on this guys past.

It's a matter of principle and it goes even beyond the the man impersonating him.

PennyPurple said:

One thing is for sure, Omar should've started with a clean slate. If the majority of us can't stand former bandmates going on tour with his music, why would Omar think that this would be a hit? If he wants to back a group get a group that has nothing to do with Prince. I'm sorry, but this is one of the stupidest things I've seen. And the frickin pictures is freaky...

freaky and scary!!!

MMJas said:

The thing is, more than being ridiculous, comical, dellusional, exploitative, greedy, sad and overall a terrible idea, this is insulting to Prince's memory and all he stood for, namely originality and truth.

well said...

MMJas said:

purplerabbithole said:

I don't even assume she is telling the truth. I am starting to think half of the "objects of his affection" are lying. She didn't whore herself out but she pimped the fvck out of him.

Strawberrylova123 said:

purplerabbithole said: She knew he was married i would never have posted that not classy

c0-sign

rogifan said:

MMJas said:

It's a matter of principle and it goes even beyond the the man impersonating him.

What principle?

- of respecting the legacy

- of being true to oneself

- of understanding all Prince stood for

- of respecting the man and all that he built out of nothing but his pure genius

- of making sure his image as well as his immense body of work is not affected nor tarnished

- of preserving authenticity

- of not selling out

- of not allowing money to speak louder that integrity

shall i go no?

[Edited 9/25/17 8:32am]

Can someone PLEASE explain to me VERY SLOWLY why a will specifically prohibiting this kind of exploitation of his image, brand and music would not have been a good idea?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Can someone PLEASE explain to me VERY SLOWLY why a will specifically prohibiting this kind of exploitation of his image, brand and music would not have been a good idea?

Once people inherit they can do as they please unless you make stipulation that cannot get the money if they do certain things. I think in Prince's case he would have 900 stipulations or none because he did not think his sibs would do this stupid stuff since they will get plenty of assests to live off of

LR, am I sensing a small crack in your oft-stated thesis that no will would have protected his estate/image from those greedy sibs? You are also contradicting your previous position that he KNEW his sibs would behave badly...now you're saying "he did not think his sibs would do this stupid stuff"...

What's it gonna be? LR.

IMO, he should have sucked it up, banished the paranoia, found the biggest, baddest MF lawyer in the entertainment industry and locked everything down just the way he wanted it to be...if only out of pride and dignity.

Now we're going to be subjected to years of this fuckeree and the man and the music might be lost in the madness (especially as his fams age and die) because Prince couldn't be bothered to make a list of the stipulations that would have protected his legacy and image?

Strawberrylova123 said:

rogifan said:

MMJas said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

rogifan said:

No, what I have a problem with is a certain someone seeming to turn every thread into a gossip about women or drugs.

Who is the certain someone?

rogifan said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

She didn't mention drug use on her post so yes that's irrelevant but she's the one who mentioned that prince tried to hit that thang so it's relevant to the post. So people have every right to talk about that.

To the extent she’s being criticized for mentioning it at all (as it has nothing to do with this new group) I agree. But discussion beyond that is OT.

It has nothing to do with this group, but Marva still mentioned it...........

So if you have a problem with it being discussed, then stop visiting this thread or reach out to Marva.

rogifan said:

MMJas said:

- of respecting the legacy

- of being true to oneself

- of understanding all Prince stood for

- of respecting the man and all that he built out of nothing but his pure genius

- of making sure his image as well as his immense body of work is not affected nor tarnished

- of preserving authenticity

- of not selling out

- of not allowing money to speak louder that integrity

shall i go no?

[Edited 9/25/17 8:32am]

So this is just because of the guy they hired to sing lead? Somehow I have a feeling people would be complaining no matter what. I’ve already said I don’t agree with them doing a record of Prince covers. But they’re supposedly also working on new original music. How exactly is that disrespectful other than you’ve predetermined any original music is going to be a bad imitation of Prince because of who the lead singer is. [Edited 9/25/17 9:47am]

So you agree that covering Prince songs makes no sense for a new band with a professional impersonator. That's my mais issue with the whole thing. Had they created NPS with new music and an unknown singer or even a known one, that would have been fine. But stay away form Prince's body of work. There was only one, he's now gone and let's just cherish the music he left us, both already released and to be released. No holograms, no shit. It's about the music and the artistry of Prince.

rogifan said:

So this is just because of the guy they hired to sing lead? Somehow I have a feeling people would be complaining no matter what. I’ve already said I don’t agree with them doing a record of Prince covers. But they’re supposedly also working on new original music. How exactly is that disrespectful other than you’ve predetermined any original music is going to be a bad imitation of Prince because of who the lead singer is. [Edited 9/25/17 9:47am]

I've not seen where they are working on new original music, but feel free to share your link where you got this info at.

All they are doing are covers of Prince Songs, that is why we are questioning, why they just don't do their own thing, instead of P's?

MMJas said:

rogifan said:

as long as he can LEGALLY do this crap ...all we can do is ignore it

Laura, cut it out. Is there no in-between with you. Mia might be telling the truth, might be taking his comment a bit out of context, might be exagerrating or might be lying. MIa Farrow also said recently that her 30 year old son with Woody Allen was actually Frank Sinatra's (meaning he would have to have impregnated Mia when he was 72 years old). Nancy Sinatra called her out on her bullshit and she (in a round-about way) took it back.

laurarichardson said:

Belive what you want to believe. Just like when Mia Farrow said that Frank asked her if she wanted to have Woody Allen's legs broken when he ran off with their adopted daugther. I guess she was making that up.

purplerabbithole said:

I just meant he had nothing to do with hiring mobsters to threaten Tommy D in the way the Godfather depicts . When FS was trying to get out of his contract with Tommy, there was a musicians union strike that was putting the screws to people like Tommy and FS hired the lawyer who represented the musicans on strike, he also was willing to pay Tommy $60,000. If Tommy was really feeling threatened by mobsters, would it have gotten to musician strike lawyers and buy-outs by FS. Plus, he worked with Tommy years later. The closest thing to a threat from the mafia was when two of Frank's handlers took it on theirselves (according to them anyhow) to threaten Tommy on the street using two over-sized college students. Tommy, who was a tough bastard, didn't buy that it was a real threat and the guys buckled and eventually asked for autographs. There were some scary phone calls at his house however, but he kept ignoring them.

I forgot the biggest lie....

As for FS getting his role in From Here to Eternity due to mafia threats, that's the biggest bullshit story of his career. No one involved in the situation claimed they were threatened. Mario Puzo basically made it up for the Godfather and even he admitted years later that he had done so but people still believe to this day that Frank got his role that way. The reality is that Frank used Ava's influence on the Columbia studio head, he auditioned and got the role because he was authentically Italian (unlike Eli Wallach who was also up for the role) and because he was willing to be work for scale..(literally, 8000 dollars was all he made for that role.)

BillieBalloon said:

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said:

purplerabbithole said:

I am not in denial about shit (especially where Hollywood and the mafia are concerned. But I see humans as having nuances and complexities and that the reality of most situations is in the grey areas. I do believe the mob helped JFK get elected but I am not sure they assasinated him, etc. Cynicism and buying into every conspiratorial story is the not the same thing as critical thinking, healthy skepticism or seeing the light. [Edited 9/26/17 5:49am]

Frank Sinatra said out of his own mouth the mobsters were his friends. They got him jobs when his carreer was not going well. The mob owned nightclubs, record lables, publishing companies, booking agencies, and the distribution system in the music industry.

There was a time in the music industry that you had to associate with the mob. It does not mean Frank was a member but I believe he was an associate and I am sure he had a Godfather.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

I am not in denial about shit (especially where Hollywood and the mafia are concerned. But I see humans as having nuances and complexities and that the reality of most situations is in the grey areas. I do believe the mob helped JFK get elected but I am not sure they assasinated him, etc. Cynicism and buying into every conspiratorial story is the not the same thing as critical thinking, healthy skepticism or seeing the light. [Edited 9/26/17 5:49am]

Frank Sinatra said out of his own mouth the mobsters were his friends. They got him jobs when his carreer was not going well. The mob owned nightclubs, record lables, publishing companies, booking agencies, and the distribution system in the music industry.

There was a time in the music industry that you had to associate with the mob. It does not mean Frank was a member but I believe he was an associate and I am sure he had a Godfather.

I know this is off topic on the NPS thread but in the Godfather the singer Johnny Fontane was based upon Frank.

The similarities were so close that when someone introduced the author Mario Puzo to Sinatra, he started shouting at Puzo, called him a pimp, and told Puzo if he hadnt been so much older he would beat the crap out of him.