morningsong said:

I guess hoping for not devaluing folks is too much to hope for. Unlike a ton of other opinions that have asserted themselves around here, she was there with him.

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

PennyPurple said:

morningsong said:

I guess hoping for not devaluing folks is too much to hope for. Unlike a ton of other opinions that have asserted themselves around here, she was there with him.

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

I hear you. But...


If she had the power to stop Showtime from showing the movie, her name is listed on it somewhere. That between them and their contracts. They need to handle it.

I am frustrated with the public feuding over every little thing, let the fans continue to heal, seems we've been pretty lucky in the fan community so far with no excessive incidences, stop stirring up hornets nest just to feed ego. I'm not blaming anyone for having an ego, just figure something out more constructive. It's time for the people in the know to use their own personal contacts to get stuff done and leave us out of the dumb messiness, that's ALL I'm saying. Stop with the reality show antics of getting attention. Now we all know Prince wasn't down for any of that.

When it comes down to who played what role when and how, I wasn't there, I don't know who did what or when. I'm not trying to put my stamp on how valued somebody was to Prince. I was never a part of the camp. That getting a bit exhausting too. Every fan has their favorites in the camp, why keep bashing and insulting each other over it? It has zero to do with how Prince felt about them, none of us were ever that close to him to know so what's the point?


I'm here about his legacy. Everybody else is on their own. Just to be blunt.

She didn't have the power to stop Showtime, so I guess she's not as important as she thinks she is.

I wouldn't have a problem with any of these women if they would just stop this nonsense and false claims on all they think they did and what they think they are entitled to. At this point, nobody but the Estate is entitled to anything.

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

I hear you. But...


If she had the power to stop Showtime from showing the movie, her name is listed on it somewhere. That between them and their contracts. They need to handle it.

I am frustrated with the public feuding over every little thing, let the fans continue to heal, seems we've been pretty lucky in the fan community so far with no excessive incidences, stop stirring up hornets nest just to feed ego. I'm not blaming anyone for having an ego, just figure something out more constructive. It's time for the people in the know to use their own personal contacts to get stuff done and leave us out of the dumb messiness, that's ALL I'm saying. Stop with the reality show antics of getting attention. Now we all know Prince wasn't down for any of that.

When it comes down to who played what role when and how, I wasn't there, I don't know who did what or when. I'm not trying to put my stamp on how valued somebody was to Prince. I was never a part of the camp. That getting a bit exhausting too. Every fan has their favorites in the camp, why keep bashing and insulting each other over it? It has zero to do with how Prince felt about them, none of us were ever that close to him to know so what's the point?


I'm here about his legacy. Everybody else is on their own. Just to be blunt.

PennyPurple said:

She didn't have the power to stop Showtime, so I guess she's not as important as she thinks she is.

I wouldn't have a problem with any of these women if they would just stop this nonsense and false claims on all they think they did and what they think they are entitled to. At this point, nobody but the Estate is entitled to anything.

morningsong said:

I hear you. But...


If she had the power to stop Showtime from showing the movie, her name is listed on it somewhere. That between them and their contracts. They need to handle it.

I am frustrated with the public feuding over every little thing, let the fans continue to heal, seems we've been pretty lucky in the fan community so far with no excessive incidences, stop stirring up hornets nest just to feed ego. I'm not blaming anyone for having an ego, just figure something out more constructive. It's time for the people in the know to use their own personal contacts to get stuff done and leave us out of the dumb messiness, that's ALL I'm saying. Stop with the reality show antics of getting attention. Now we all know Prince wasn't down for any of that.

When it comes down to who played what role when and how, I wasn't there, I don't know who did what or when. I'm not trying to put my stamp on how valued somebody was to Prince. I was never a part of the camp. That getting a bit exhausting too. Every fan has their favorites in the camp, why keep bashing and insulting each other over it? It has zero to do with how Prince felt about them, none of us were ever that close to him to know so what's the point?


I'm here about his legacy. Everybody else is on their own. Just to be blunt.

Then they handled it.

PennyPurple said:

morningsong said:

I guess hoping for not devaluing folks is too much to hope for. Unlike a ton of other opinions that have asserted themselves around here, she was there with him.

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

what happened with Cat was a misunderstanding. Like JJ and the PR deluxe(in the kitchen) comment

lashing out on FB doesn't help the image.

Cat misread/misunderstood the wording when she read/heard that SOTT was going to be showing.
And the way Showtime worded it was confusing.
Cat thought they were going to be showing footage and background stuff from SOTT.
In that respect I understand her frustration, because she along with others should be consulted if that was to happen. But again she overreacted.

PennyPurple said:

Nothing about the jacket she made Prince?

Yeah that is being auctioned off or remade and sold as an original out there

TrivialPursuit said:

Cat has always had that attitude that her and Prince were the o-n-l-y creative duo evar. Her rants about SOTT being under her creative control or that whoever needed her release to put the movie out etc is beyond ridiculous and ignorant (meaning she's uninformed about her own work and what she actually has dibs on - gheezus did she ever actually meet Prince? Because if anyone was a content control freak - it was Prince).

She was there what - two years at best? God, we GET it. You worked with PRINCE. So has a laundry list of other people. In fact, as far as bad members go, she was on the short list, along with Boni, and a few other short timers.


She needs to sit her tired ass down and STFU. She holds no other special place in Princestory than anyone else who worked for/with him, whether it's Randee, Tony M., Gayle, or whoever. She was the female Jerome, at best, and no one can ever top Jerome's comic foil status.

umm I'll forever remember and adore Cat via 1987-1989, Tony M ummm not so much lol

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I don't recall any of those people trying to tell the fans who and what not to support. Everyone still has bills to pay, that's just a fact of life, one can walk around pouting and being disillusioned about it or just accept its reality and figure out a positive route. Its about how one conducts themselves at this point, the initial shock of everything is over. Throwing wrenches ond rocks, and being as disruptive as possible isn't a good look on anybody. Time to find a path and work it.

Maybe I wasn’t clear. My point was I don’t think these people (and I’m sure I missed a lot of others) have agendas or are riding the gravy train or whatever. I think the ones who are is a lot smaller group than the ones who aren’t.

eh the musicians with Agenda's I don't see it.
I think overall they just want to project the legacy as best as they can.
I would always rather them, than people who had nothing to do with the music or era.
Like why not Jimmy Jam & Lisa Coleman vs Joshua(who wasn't even alive in 1984) with the pR deluxe

Even if Showtune showed footage and background things, they still don't need her permission.

The jean jacket, I doubt she made that for Prince, like she is stating.

The choreography, I'm not saying she didn't do ANY, I'm saying she didn't do the entire show that was on Showtime.

As far as the Estate and Tyka, she needs to wipe her doorstep off, before she starts dissing them. They owe her nothing.

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

what happened with Cat was a misunderstanding. Like JJ and the PR deluxe(in the kitchen) comment

lashing out on FB doesn't help the image.

Cat misread/misunderstood the wording when she read/heard that SOTT was going to be showing.
And the way Showtime worded it was confusing.
Cat thought they were going to be showing footage and background stuff from SOTT.
In that respect I understand her frustration, because she along with others should be consulted if that was to happen. But again she overreacted.

Dalia11 said:

I Do Not Have A Problem With His Work Associates From - The -Past - Talking About Their Opinions/Feelings/Actions About Prince's Music/Legacy. What I Have A Problem With Is When Those Work Associates From - The - Past, Dictate to Prince's Family (Tyka His Sister) and His Loyal, Long - Time Fans What - To - Do about Prince's Music, Legacy, Estate, ETC!

Exactly!!!

PennyPurple said:

She may have been there with him, but so were a bunch of others who aren't making claims like these. She made his SOTT jacket? She didn't give Showtime permission to show SOTT? She choreographed SOTT? She may of helped choreograph but damn if I can find a credit for her for SOTT.

She is devaluing the Estate & Tyka and there is really no need for the stuff Cat is saying. Nobody owes her anything, she was a paid employee.

When these women make some of these claims they need to be able to take the criticism or stop with the claims.

Dalia11 said:

I Do Not Have A Problem With His Work Associates From - The -Past - Talking About Their Opinions/Feelings/Actions About Prince's Music/Legacy. What I Have A Problem With Is When Those Work Associates From - The - Past, Dictate to Prince's Family (Tyka His Sister) and His Loyal, Long - Time Fans What - To - Do about Prince's Music, Legacy, Estate, ETC!

Couldn't agree more. And who does she think she is? She's being childish and immature, just as her "manager" who even thought she could tell me on my own FB how to word things. Things that had nothing to do with her.

She was the Choreographer for SOTT and Lovesexy. That was the reason he hired her.

PennyPurple said:

Even if Showtune showed footage and background things, they still don't need her permission.

The jean jacket, I doubt she made that for Prince, like she is stating.

The choreography, I'm not saying she didn't do ANY, I'm saying she didn't do the entire show that was on Showtime.

As far as the Estate and Tyka, she needs to wipe her doorstep off, before she starts dissing them. They owe her nothing.

OldFriends4Sale said:

what happened with Cat was a misunderstanding. Like JJ and the PR deluxe(in the kitchen) comment

lashing out on FB doesn't help the image.

Cat misread/misunderstood the wording when she read/heard that SOTT was going to be showing.
And the way Showtime worded it was confusing.
Cat thought they were going to be showing footage and background stuff from SOTT.
In that respect I understand her frustration, because she along with others should be consulted if that was to happen. But again she overreacted.

I don't know, I think they would.
If Showtime had access to unreleased footage like that

it is either illegal or the Estate presented it, and I would assume they would

reach out to certain people in the band at the time more specifically Dr Fink Sheila E Eric Leeds & Cat

PennyPurple said:

Even if Showtune showed footage and background things, they still don't need her permission.

The jean jacket, I doubt she made that for Prince, like she is stating.

The choreography, I'm not saying she didn't do ANY, I'm saying she didn't do the entire show that was on Showtime.

As far as the Estate and Tyka, she needs to wipe her doorstep off, before she starts dissing them. They owe her nothing.

OldFriends4Sale said:

what happened with Cat was a misunderstanding. Like JJ and the PR deluxe(in the kitchen) comment

lashing out on FB doesn't help the image.

Cat misread/misunderstood the wording when she read/heard that SOTT was going to be showing.
And the way Showtime worded it was confusing.
Cat thought they were going to be showing footage and background stuff from SOTT.
In that respect I understand her frustration, because she along with others should be consulted if that was to happen. But again she overreacted.

well hello everyone

haleno1 said:

well hello everyone

Oh good. Would Cat be willing to answer some questions??

PennyPurple said:

haleno1 said:

well hello everyone

Oh good. Would Cat be willing to answer some questions??

Depends what they are tbh

We are thinking about it at the moment as there seems to be a lot of people that under estimate a lot of what she did during the tours and after

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haleno1 said:

PennyPurple said:

Oh good. Would Cat be willing to answer some questions??

Depends what they are tbh

We are thinking about it at the moment as there seems to be a lot of people that under estimate a lot of what she did during the tours and after

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Did she choreograph the entire SOTT film that was on Showtime?

Did she design the jean jacket that he wore, or did she just add a few pieces of her broken jewelry. And if she designed it, did the seamstress at PP sew it?

Why does she keep putting down Tyka and the Estate? When right now they don't control anything?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Ok, what is with this frekkin' jacket? I mean women do do that kind of thing all the time, so there's got to be more to this story that I've missed.

morningsong said:

Ok, what is with this frekkin' jacket? I mean women do do that kind of thing all the time, so there's got to be more to this story that I've missed.

Cat posted on Paisley Park's FB post re jacket

haleno1 said:

morningsong said:

Ok, what is with this frekkin' jacket? I mean women do do that kind of thing all the time, so there's got to be more to this story that I've missed.

Cat posted on Paisley Park's FB post re jacket

I figured out that much, but why is such a point of contention? Like so what, she made a jacket for Prince, why is that so unreal?

morningsong said:

haleno1 said:

Cat posted on Paisley Park's FB post re jacket

I figured out that much, but why is such a point of contention? Like so what, she made a jacket for Prince, why is that so unreal?

yes i am curious too, why so unreal. looks like that type of jacket, we did stuff like that with the

safety pins all the time during that era, and put beads on them and passed them out to friends. totally

looks like something she would have been doing say in the tour bus on down time and he was like

hey cat that is cool, i want one or make me one.

morningsong said:

haleno1 said:

Cat posted on Paisley Park's FB post re jacket

I figured out that much, but why is such a point of contention? Like so what, she made a jacket for Prince, why is that so unreal?

Because normally his clothes were well planned out with sketches and so forth, then he even helped pick out the colors and the cloth, if he wasn't happy with the design he would write a note on the side of a sketch. I'm interested in knowing, whether she just added some of her broken jewelry, or if she designed the entire jacket. That jacket also has writing on it, I'm also interested in, who's handwriting it is.

I heard that he gave that jacket to one of the girls on 'The Cosby Show' (who is a huge fan)

PennyPurple said:

morningsong said:

I figured out that much, but why is such a point of contention? Like so what, she made a jacket for Prince, why is that so unreal?

Because normally his clothes were well planned out with sketches and so forth, then he even helped pick out the colors and the cloth, if he wasn't happy with the design he would write a note on the side of a sketch. I'm interested in knowing, whether she just added some of her broken jewelry, or if she designed the entire jacket. That jacket also has writing on it, I'm also interested in, who's handwriting it is.

Now you read Mayte's book and you know he would take her clothes out her closet. That's not all carefully planned out just for him. So why is it so hard to just take it on what it is that he accepted gifts of clothing from other women??? Heck I've read he'd ask for women stuff off their back and wear it and wouldn't give it back. You really are acting like you have a personal stake in whether or not she made a jacket for him. I thought there was so serious stuff going on.

purplefam99 said:

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

Because normally his clothes were well planned out with sketches and so forth, then he even helped pick out the colors and the cloth, if he wasn't happy with the design he would write a note on the side of a sketch. I'm interested in knowing, whether she just added some of her broken jewelry, or if she designed the entire jacket. That jacket also has writing on it, I'm also interested in, who's handwriting it is.

Now you read Mayte's book and you know he would take her clothes out her closet. That's not all carefully planned out just for him. So why is it so hard to just take it on what it is that he accepted gifts of clothing from other women??? Heck I've read he'd ask for women stuff off their back and wear it and wouldn't give it back. You really are acting like you have a personal stake in whether or not she made a jacket for him. I thought there was so serious stuff going on.

Huh? Who said Cat gave it to him? LOL

Actually I'm seeing some comments on FB, where she only sewed on a patch??? Cat said on her FB that she made the jacket and used some of her broken jewelry.

PP has that jacket on display and a picture of that jacket on their FB page with Cat's manager making comments on the post.

Now you are throwing another wrench into it, by saying maybe she gave him HER jacket. Which like you, I don't find that hard to believe...because I read Mayte's book.

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