Sheila E. sits in with the Late Show band to perform a classic track by The Beatles, which is featured on her new album 'Iconic: Message 4 America.

And this has given me a head-tilt ever since I read it: iTunes has it down that Sheila E recorded "Come Together" with Ringo and The Revolution? I thought the band wasn't too cool with her re-recording "America" so I'm confused about them playing with her on a different song. Or am I just confused (not unusual)?

GeminiDME said:

And this has given me a head-tilt ever since I read it: iTunes has it down that Sheila E recorded "Come Together" with Ringo and The Revolution? I thought the band wasn't too cool with her re-recording "America" so I'm confused about them playing with her on a different song. Or am I just confused (not unusual)?

The Revolution doesn't play on any of the songs on that record.

At the end of the song she included snippets of ‘All you need is love’ and ‘Revolution’, that’s perhaps where the confusion comes from

[Edited 9/7/17 6:39am]

TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I hope people remember these types of comments when they kept saying the ladies of color do not get shade I this board. Sheila is actually doing the very thing that Prince promoted artist putting out their music independently and speaking out about social issues.

Indeed she is. It's just a shame she's doing it with other people's songs, namley Prince.

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I hope people remember these types of comments when they kept saying the ladies of color do not get shade I this board. Sheila is actually doing the very thing that Prince promoted artist putting out their music independently and speaking out about social issues.

oh come on with the race paranoia

if we are not consciously careful it is going to get to a point where people are going to be accused of being racists and sexist if they don't like/support/buy someones music
Sheila E was always supported and loved on the board.
Everyone gets shade.

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I remember sometime this year, a female singer/entertainer (woman of color) complaining about her career not going up, because 'black people were not supporting her'. Maybe the music just isn't good.

.

But in this case, Sheila E and the band are tight, but it ain't really exciting like I usually expect from Sheila E. Good music though. Sheila's last album was just not good. And the Boy Meets Girl, was touching but just not good. I do support this current album though 'Because it is Sheila E, yes I'm being biased.' And I enjoyed watching the rendition.

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You just make sure You buy the album, or your preaching is null n void.

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Now if somehow it was like this below, now it would be a different story.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said: I hope people remember these types of comments when they kept saying the ladies of color do not get shade I this board. Sheila is actually doing the very thing that Prince promoted artist putting out their music independently and speaking out about social issues.

oh come on with the race paranoia

if we are not consciously careful it is going to get to a point where people are going to be accused of being racists and sexist if they don't like/support/buy someones music
Sheila E was always supported and loved on the board.
Everyone gets shade.

Exactly. The race baiting is retarded. I don't give a fat fuck what color or race or religion she is - she did a shitty rendition of an otherwise fantastic song. None of us are obligated to like an artist just because they're black, or otherwise non-white. I am obligated, however, to stay true to my own convictions and beliefs. And I believe that this performance was shitty. Pick another song.

GeminiDME said:

And this has given me a head-tilt ever since I read it: iTunes has it down that Sheila E recorded "Come Together" with Ringo and The Revolution? I thought the band wasn't too cool with her re-recording "America" so I'm confused about them playing with her on a different song. Or am I just confused (not unusual)?

Source??? I never heard this

the way i see it sheilia is trying to keep prince spirit musically alive listen at how she sings now . no matter what we on the outside say prince been apart of her life since the 80's we only loived him from a distance this woman was apart of the purple worls up close and personal

GaryMF said:

GeminiDME said:

And this has given me a head-tilt ever since I read it: iTunes has it down that Sheila E recorded "Come Together" with Ringo and The Revolution? I thought the band wasn't too cool with her re-recording "America" so I'm confused about them playing with her on a different song. Or am I just confused (not unusual)?

Source??? I never heard this

I read the quote from BrownMark talking about it. I never read anything about anyone else having issue with it. But he/the said nothing about her covering the song. BrownMark only replied to the BET Tribute:As far as the BET Awards, Sheila E called us to accompany her on the song “America,” and our first thought was, ‘we created America together.’ I was there when we wrote the song, so why would we come play as back-up for you? That’s my bassline!

https://www.soultracks.com/interview-mark-brown

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I believe if you read the interview where she talks about the recording of America, the interviewer seems to blur the question with the original recording and Sheila's 2017 cover of the song, and it read almost as if she is saying she was on the original recording of the song.

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There is a part where she mentions playing on the song(but I believe it is the live 1985 Purple Rain tour that she is talking about). So it read really blurry. And only people who might know the history of all this can figure it out. But if you just read straight through on the interview it could easily sound like Sheila E is saying she recorded America with Prince(and the Revolution).
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this piece from the Rollingstone interview is just um all over the place
As far as I know, it was about something other than America bombing Libya
America bombed Libya in 1986, America was being created in 1984

And America was the last not first single from Around the World in a Day(the interviewer)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/sheila-e-on-princes-wooing-wild-purple-rain-parties-w486152

dayum! I'm sure Sheila's intentions were good.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I read the quote from BrownMark talking about it. I never read anything about anyone else having issue with it. But he/the said nothing about her covering the song. BrownMark only replied to the BET Tribute:As far as the BET Awards, Sheila E called us to accompany her on the song “America,” and our first thought was, ‘we created America together.’ I was there when we wrote the song, so why would we come play as back-up for you? That’s my bassline!

https://www.soultracks.com/interview-mark-brown

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lol I believe her approach might have been too aggressive, in that at the time she was in the zone of having to prove she was still 'relevant'

SoulAlive said:

dayum! I'm sure Sheila's intentions were good.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I read the quote from BrownMark talking about it. I never read anything about anyone else having issue with it. But he/the said nothing about her covering the song. BrownMark only replied to the BET Tribute:As far as the BET Awards, Sheila E called us to accompany her on the song “America,” and our first thought was, ‘we created America together.’ I was there when we wrote the song, so why would we come play as back-up for you? That’s my bassline!

https://www.soultracks.com/interview-mark-brown

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TrivialPursuit said:

This song sure seems to be popular right now; Gary Clark Jr. just covered it...

purplefam99 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Exactly. The race baiting is retarded. I don't give a fat fuck what color or race or religion she is - she did a shitty rendition of an otherwise fantastic song. None of us are obligated to like an artist just because they're black, or otherwise non-white. I am obligated, however, to stay true to my own convictions and beliefs. And I believe that this performance was shitty. Pick another song.

Seems like if that was bait your feasting on it. yikes!! Just kinda seems that way.

no it doesn't lol

only if someone fell for the bait

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said: I hope people remember these types of comments when they kept saying the ladies of color do not get shade I this board. Sheila is actually doing the very thing that Prince promoted artist putting out their music independently and speaking out about social issues.

oh come on with the race paranoia

if we are not consciously careful it is going to get to a point where people are going to be accused of being racists and sexist if they don't like/support/buy someones music
Sheila E was always supported and loved on the board.
Everyone gets shade.

.

I remember sometime this year, a female singer/entertainer (woman of color) complaining about her career not going up, because 'black people were not supporting her'. Maybe the music just isn't good.

.

But in this case, Sheila E and the band are tight, but it ain't really exciting like I usually expect from Sheila E. Good music though. Sheila's last album was just not good. And the Boy Meets Girl, was touching but just not good. I do support this current album though 'Because it is Sheila E, yes I'm being biased.' And I enjoyed watching the rendition.

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You just make sure You buy the album, or your preaching is null n void.

.

Now if somehow it was like this below, now it would be a different story.

I really do not care if you like what she is doing and I am sure she is not losing any sleep over your likes or dislikes. She got enought people to pledge money to get this CD done quickly so other people in this world then orgers have purchased this record.

You really need to think about getting your head of the sand if you think with Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people in the street that anyone is being paranoid. Speaks volumes about you.

She is relevent. She did a fantastic job on BET and received rave reviews. The Revolution have shown their true colors time and time again. In addtion, Sheila actually has paid gigs all the time unlike Mark Brown who just a year and a half ago was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page.

Pathetic to throw shade at someone when you have such a thin resume. I think his last production work was with Troop and Lakeside back in the 90s . He needs to play the bass and stop speaking.

Or maybe go enjoy some Bon Iver coma inducing music.

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol I believe her approach might have been too aggressive, in that at the time she was in the zone of having to prove she was still 'relevant'

SoulAlive said:

dayum! I'm sure Sheila's intentions were good.

And again, Laurarichardson strikes with comprehension issues

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Of course she is relevant. I'm saying her reaction and the zone she was in was about to proving she was relevant because of the comment the lady on the Billboard awards said those people were not 'relevant' to that generation.

Don't you remember that? the Billboard awards said those groups from then ie the Time Sheila E the Revolution were not Relevant

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Again here is 'know it all' laurarichardson reacting and flaming another post.

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This has nothing to do with the Revolution.

Throwing shade? I'm a huge fan of Sheila E.

U R Ms. Shade: Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

laurarichardson said:

She is relevent. She did a fantastic job on BET and received rave reviews. The Revolution have shown their true colors time and time again. In addtion, Sheila actually has paid gigs all the time unlike Mark Brown who just a year and a half ago was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page.

Pathetic to throw shade at someone when you have such a thin resume. I think his last production work was with Troop and Lakeside back in the 90s . He needs to play the bass and stop speaking.

Or maybe go enjoy some Bon Iver coma inducing music.

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol I believe her approach might have been too aggressive, in that at the time she was in the zone of having to prove she was still 'relevant'

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

oh come on with the race paranoia

if we are not consciously careful it is going to get to a point where people are going to be accused of being racists and sexist if they don't like/support/buy someones music
Sheila E was always supported and loved on the board.
Everyone gets shade.

.

I remember sometime this year, a female singer/entertainer (woman of color) complaining about her career not going up, because 'black people were not supporting her'. Maybe the music just isn't good.

.

But in this case, Sheila E and the band are tight, but it ain't really exciting like I usually expect from Sheila E. Good music though. Sheila's last album was just not good. And the Boy Meets Girl, was touching but just not good. I do support this current album though 'Because it is Sheila E, yes I'm being biased.' And I enjoyed watching the rendition.

.

You just make sure You buy the album, or your preaching is null n void.

.

Now if somehow it was like this below, now it would be a different story.

I really do not care if you like what she is doing and I am sure she is not losing any sleep over your likes or dislikes. She got enought people to pledge money to get this CD done quickly so other people in this world then orgers have purchased this record.

You really need to think about getting your head of the sand if you think with Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people in the street that anyone is being paranoid. Speaks volumes about you.

Who cares if you care. Stop making fun of Alzheimers and Cancer.

I like Sheila E, I love her music history with Prince and he time afterwards.
I have studio and live music by Sheila E. How about U? U who proclaimed over and over that her 3rd album produced no singles. yeah you are a good representative for Sheila E.

and you do care what I think...

http://prince.org/msg/5/427876

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

I really do not care if you like what she is doing and I am sure she is not losing any sleep over your likes or dislikes. She got enought people to pledge money to get this CD done quickly so other people in this world then orgers have purchased this record.

You really need to think about getting your head of the sand if you think with Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people in the street that anyone is being paranoid. Speaks volumes about you.

Who cares if you care. Stop making fun of Alzheimers and Cancer.

I like Sheila E, I love her music history with Prince and he time afterwards.
I have studio and live music by Sheila E. How about U? U who proclaimed over and over that her 3rd album produced no singles. yeah you are a good representative for Sheila E.

and you do care what I think...

http://prince.org/msg/5/427876

Wow how weak can you be? Is this the best you can do? Just randomly bringing up things that have nothing to do with what we are discussing.

1) I have never made fun of Alzheimers and Cancer. Because I brought these things up in a discussion does not mean I was making fun of these issues. One associate that your are in love with acts as if she has Alzheimers I hope she does not but when you cannot remember basic things in your 50s how does it look.

2) What makes you think I do not have Sheila E's music? Is there a reason other people besides yourself cannot obtain music? Produce singles in outer Mongolia with little or no promotion does not count with me and that was a part of that discussion that you keep ignoring. If you are such a fan you would have read Sheila 's book and you would know she was not interested in promoting that record. WB could have releashed 9 singles if they wanted to that record was going nowhere.

3) You are the one carry on as if your cares are important. I realizes that my likes and dislikes in terms of music only mean something to me. I cannot say the same for you.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Who cares if you care. Stop making fun of Alzheimers and Cancer.

I like Sheila E, I love her music history with Prince and he time afterwards.
I have studio and live music by Sheila E. How about U? U who proclaimed over and over that her 3rd album produced no singles. yeah you are a good representative for Sheila E.

and you do care what I think...

http://prince.org/msg/5/427876

Wow how weak can you be? Is this the best you can do? Just randomly bringing up things that have nothing to do with what we are discussing.

1) I have never made fun of Alzheimers and Cancer. Because I brought these things up in a discussion does not mean I was making fun of these issues. One associate that your are in love with acts as if she has Alzheimers I hope she does not but when you cannot remember basic things in your 50s how does it look.

2) What makes you think I do not have Sheila E's music? Is there a reason other people besides yourself cannot obtain music? Produce singles in outer Mongolia with little or no promotion does not count with me and that was a part of that discussion that you keep ignoring. If you are such a fan you would have read Sheila 's book and you would know she was not interested in promoting that record. WB could have releashed 9 singles if they wanted to that record was going nowhere.

3) You are the one carry on as if your cares are important. I realizes that my likes and dislikes in terms of music only mean something to me. I cannot say the same for you.

U mean like bringing up the Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people?

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Yeah you thought saying someone must have Alzheimers as a snide remark, and that listening to someone you don't like sing will give you ear Cancer... very insensitive the real issue of those ailments and all involved who suffer from it.

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You don't have music ...

OldFriends4Sale said:

And again, Laurarichardson strikes with comprehension issues

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Of course she is relevant. I'm saying her reaction and the zone she was in was about to proving she was relevant because of the comment the lady on the Billboard awards said those people were not 'relevant' to that generation.

Don't you remember that? the Billboard awards said those groups from then ie the Time Sheila E the Revolution were not Relevant

.

Again here is 'know it all' laurarichardson reacting and flaming another post.

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This has nothing to do with the Revolution.

Throwing shade? I'm a huge fan of Sheila E.

U R Ms. Shade: Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

laurarichardson said:

She is relevent. She did a fantastic job on BET and received rave reviews. The Revolution have shown their true colors time and time again. In addtion, Sheila actually has paid gigs all the time unlike Mark Brown who just a year and a half ago was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page.

Pathetic to throw shade at someone when you have such a thin resume. I think his last production work was with Troop and Lakeside back in the 90s . He needs to play the bass and stop speaking.

Or maybe go enjoy some Bon Iver coma inducing music.

Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

I do care for Jill's voice - It is called an opinion it does not mean she does not deserve credit for her work.

Hey she went into a men's bathroom with him. That kind of speaks for itself and from some her comments she seems aware that she should not let him string her along.

You interpretation of things is wrong as usual.

I do not think Sheila E's was too aggresive and do not think it had anything to do with trying to remain relevant. BET was going to ask because they do not give a fuck about that idiot produdcer or the Billboard awards. You know the person's whose name we cannot even recall.

Mark was being an asshole with his comment about America plain and simple.

[Edited 9/13/17 11:41am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Wow how weak can you be? Is this the best you can do? Just randomly bringing up things that have nothing to do with what we are discussing.

1) I have never made fun of Alzheimers and Cancer. Because I brought these things up in a discussion does not mean I was making fun of these issues. One associate that your are in love with acts as if she has Alzheimers I hope she does not but when you cannot remember basic things in your 50s how does it look.

2) What makes you think I do not have Sheila E's music? Is there a reason other people besides yourself cannot obtain music? Produce singles in outer Mongolia with little or no promotion does not count with me and that was a part of that discussion that you keep ignoring. If you are such a fan you would have read Sheila 's book and you would know she was not interested in promoting that record. WB could have releashed 9 singles if they wanted to that record was going nowhere.

3) You are the one carry on as if your cares are important. I realizes that my likes and dislikes in terms of music only mean something to me. I cannot say the same for you.

U mean like bringing up the Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people?

.

Yeah you thought saying someone must have Alzheimers as a snide remark, and that listening to someone you don't like sing will give you ear Cancer... very insensitive the real issue of those ailments and all involved who suffer from it.

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You don't have music ...

Do you not remember this

"oh come on with the race paranoia"

My comments about klansmen and nazies is a direction response to that ridculous comment.

I am on topic you need to get your eyes checked.

Nothing I side about Alzheimers was snide. I think something is seriously wrong with Lisa. I also call bad music ear cancer as the music is like cancer to one's ears. I have never known anyone to take offense. I also say McDonald's Sweet Tea is liquid diabetias. Do you think I am making fun of diabetics or suggesting they stay away from that crap.

You do not know how to interpret anything and are too PC for your own good. You also take yourself too seriously.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

U mean like bringing up the Nazi and Klansmen marching and beating people?

.

Yeah you thought saying someone must have Alzheimers as a snide remark, and that listening to someone you don't like sing will give you ear Cancer... very insensitive the real issue of those ailments and all involved who suffer from it.

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You don't have music ...

Do you not remember this

"oh come on with the race paranoia"

My comments about klansmen and nazies is a direction response to that ridculous comment.

I am on topic you need to get your eyes checked.

Nothing I side about Alzheimers was snide. I think something is seriously wrong with Lisa. I also call bad music ear cancer as the music is like cancer to one's ears. I have never known anyone to take offense. I also say McDonald's Sweet Tea is liquid diabetias. Do you think I am making fun of diabetics or suggesting they stay away from that crap.

You do not know how to interpret anything and are too PC for your own good. You also take yourself too seriously.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

And again, Laurarichardson strikes with comprehension issues

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Of course she is relevant. I'm saying her reaction and the zone she was in was about to proving she was relevant because of the comment the lady on the Billboard awards said those people were not 'relevant' to that generation.

Don't you remember that? the Billboard awards said those groups from then ie the Time Sheila E the Revolution were not Relevant

.

Again here is 'know it all' laurarichardson reacting and flaming another post.

.

This has nothing to do with the Revolution.

Throwing shade? I'm a huge fan of Sheila E.

U R Ms. Shade: Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

I do care for Jill's voice - It is called an opinion it does not mean she does not deserve credit for her work.

Hey she went into a men's bathroom with him. That kind of speaks for itself and from some her comments she seems aware that she should not let him string her along.

You interpretation of things is wrong as usual.

I do not think Sheila E's was too aggresive and do not think it had anything to do with trying to remain relevant. BET was going to ask because they do not give a fuck about that idiot produdcer or the Billboard awards. You know the person's whose name we cannot even recall.

Mark was being an asshole with his comment about America plain and simple.

[Edited 9/13/17 11:41am]

wrong again.
When she performed at the BET awards show (she wasn't trying to be relevant) but part of her energy was definately and justifiably in response to the Billboard Awards response that Sheila E was not relevant.

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Yeah, I've spoken with a few in connection to that, I'm not saying 'aggressive' was bad, but during the tribute response, sadly the Billboard awards persons response tampered with a 100% need by Sheila E to just release sadness and appreciation in a tribute, without the the 'not relevant' comment affect her.

laurarichardson said:

Jill Jones cannot sing

LMAO she's actually one of the few female Prince proteges who can sing.Remember,Prince used her on the 1999 tour where she hid behind a curtain and sang during Vanity 6's performance.

laurarichardson said:

Jill Jones cannot sing, Jill jones has no pride in herself

I do care for Jill's voice - It is called an opinion it does not mean she does not deserve credit for her work.

Hey she went into a men's bathroom with him. That kind of speaks for itself and from some her comments she seems aware that she should not let him string her along.

You interpretation of things is wrong as usual.

I do not think Sheila E's was too aggresive and do not think it had anything to do with trying to remain relevant. BET was going to ask because they do not give a fuck about that idiot produdcer or the Billboard awards. You know the person's whose name we cannot even recall.

Mark was being an asshole with his comment about America plain and simple.

laurarichardson said:

I hope people remember these types of comments when they kept saying the ladies of color do not get shade I this board. Sheila is actually doing the very thing that Prince promoted artist putting out their music independently and speaking out about social issues.