Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

Right. So why are we jumping to conclusions just because they appeared to be together? Again, not everything we SEE is the truth. Prince was fiercely private and I think if he was really seeing someone, we wouldn't have known. Andy was put out front because he was promoting and showcasing her and his music. Being seen with her was part of all that.

I agree; I do not think people on his payroll knew him as well as they think they did just by what they saw or thought or assumed.

All of this.

purplefam99 said:

purplegirl00 said:

The assumption that everyone is lying about P for personal gain is like stating that he was really nothing up but stepping stone for them and their ambitions. Its awful cynical. Did you not say something about all of his associates being a bunch of exploitative liars. Are his associates that bad that none of them ever tell the truth or have genuine feelings or affection for one another or this man? Well, what does that say about Prince himself that he surrounded himself with such obvious douchebags. And seeing as humans are generally fond of others in the human race, what about Prince made it hard to believe that the people around him could be entranced not just by his fame, influence and money and but also his personality, charm, intelligence, humor etc? People's motives are complicated and it is probably easy to see P as invisible and bigger than life. But God, I hope they also saw him as a man whose life was more than just his music and influence..

Iif Prince did have some kind of secret love and it was a woman of his own age, success, and experience, how would she fit into his rock n roll lifestyle? And where was she when he died--because that kind of woman wouldn't have been as easy to keep at bay or in the dark about it.

Second of all, older rock musicians being with younger women is as common as a rainy day in April. Prince had a track record of dating women who he tried to offer mentorship and musical advantages to. I am not saying every woman he mentored was a lay of his or even a romantic interest of his. I made it clear in my long earlier post that music was his conduit to people. MOst of his associates have been saying that for years. Hell, he himself implied the same thing. So, odds are that most of his lovers had some kind of musical connection to him.

Thirdly, who else would he date but women who could fit into his life style. The best ones to fit into his lifestyle were young and aspiring, therefore unattached to responsibities and duties outside of their musical dreams and also willing to work his crazy hours and not too worried about the consequences. (not a whole lot to lose).

Fourthly, so what does that mean about Andy and him. Let's look at it. They were lovey-dovey publically, an associate said they were dating who had no reason to make it up and why wouldn't he say things like "Kim, fix me up nice tonight, I got a date with Andy" etc (as compartmentalized as he was, I don't think it was impossible for his associates to know that P was going out on dates with specific people at specific times), Andy's own brother posted about parties and spirited debates at P's house in turks and Caicos, Andy subtlely and not so subtely aluded to her relationship with P while he was alive but has been on the down low about it after his death (rarely exploiting it), even when she was a more independent artist (and relying less and less Prince), he was still in touch with her in 2014, 2015) . The exact nature, intensity or degree of their relationship is unknown to us. But it is not at all unreasonable to believe that he had a girlfriend for a little while who was younger and a musical partner/mentoree.

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Prince had to fix himself first. A strong independent woman of experience wasn't going to be able to do that for himself by herself no matter how fond he might have been of her or how much he respected her.. Fixing himself meant finding balance in his life and this would only happen if he decided to give up his music obsessed, dracula lifestyle and calm the f down for a few years. Maybe had he lived, a time recovering from drugs and taking it easy might have made him search out that strong experienced woman who wasn't wrapped up in her music career. But I don't really like the assumption that young women are a bunch of blockheads who couldn't have some insight to offer the man.

What Prince may have been not brave enough to do was give up his security blankets (his work habits, music obsession, somewhat isolated lifestyle, mysterious persona, outrageous clothes) etc. It doesn't mean he didn't open up privately to people at times but he certainly ran back to those old habits and unless he was brave enough to re-arrange his life, no other person was going to be able to do it for him. He needed an epiphany moment and had he survived he might have gotten more than a few.

purplefam99 said:

purplegirl00 said:

Why wouldn't he have been strong enough? We do not know with certainty that he didn't have a connection/ partnership like that with someone. Perhaps he did. Too many assumptions here are based on how things looked/ appeared to us, but they may have had nothing to do with reality, the truth. [Edited 9/13/17 19:44pm]

Yes I'm not sure if he was brave enough based on public knowledge, he of course could have had that behind the scenes. I am just thinking that if he had that type of strong partnership that which was Described above by angel that he would be in an entirely diff head space And prob wouldn't be taking on protégés any longer. What I am envisioning For him is just that my envision of what that private stable honest relationship Could look like for him if I was able to see it. [Edited 9/13/17 19:50pm]

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purplefam99 said:

purplegirl00 said:

Why wouldn't he have been strong enough? We do not know with certainty that he didn't have a connection/ partnership like that with someone. Perhaps he did. Too many assumptions here are based on how things looked/ appeared to us, but they may have had nothing to do with reality, the truth. [Edited 9/13/17 19:44pm]

Yes I'm not sure if he was brave enough based on public knowledge, he of course could have had that behind the scenes. I am just thinking that if he had that type of strong partnership that which was Described above by angel that he would be in an entirely diff head space And prob wouldn't be taking on protégés any longer. What I am envisioning For him is just that my envision of what that private stable honest relationship Could look like for him if I was able to see it. [Edited 9/13/17 19:50pm]

Maybe he had that with Lala.He was extremely private about their relationship.She says he was very protective over what they had and the only evidence she was in his life are the videos she danced in.She comes across as very intelligent and they appear to have had a lot in common..She was around behind the scenes for eight years.She was born in 81 so she is a bit older than some of the others as well.He seemed to keep going back to her.She posted on twitter the other day that it would be nice to be able to retrieve the pictures that P took of her on his camera to have as a keepsake.

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purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

She also said they shared a lot of tears together. To me, that implies that P had feelings for her as well. This assumption that the love was more than likely one-sided and that Prince was probably just trying to use her as a musical distribution device is a bit unfair. I also would like to add that romantic maturity isn't necessarily based entirely on age. I know I was extremely naive at 22 years old.My mom however was a married mother of two by that point and had 3-4 prior boyfriends before getting married to my dad.

purplegirl00 said:

purplefam99 said:

Yes I'm not sure if he was brave enough based on public knowledge, he of course could have had that behind the scenes. I am just thinking that if he had that type of strong partnership that which was Described above by angel that he would be in an entirely diff head space And prob wouldn't be taking on protégés any longer. What I am envisioning For him is just that my envision of what that private stable honest relationship Could look like for him if I was able to see it. [Edited 9/13/17 19:50pm]

Ah gotcha! Perhaps the purpose of continuing to have protégés was to have another avenue to distribute his music while supporting an upcoming artist? I don't know, but I won't make the assumption that because he spent time outside of the recording studio with them, that automatically he was having a romantic relationship with them. To have everyone SEEING them together and thinking they were was good for image and promotion of her (and him & lyrical contents). People would still tie her to him. I also don't know if she may have fallen for him. Perhaps she did as she was very young and impressionable but based on comment that he taught her about love and heartbreak, perhaps he did not return those feelings. Again, what we were shown may have been removed from reality.

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purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Maybe he had that with Lala.He was extremely private about their relationship.She says he was very protective over what they had and the only evidence she was in his life are the videos she danced in.She comes across as very intelligent and they appear to have had a lot in common..She was around behind the scenes for eight years.She was born in 81 so she is a bit older than some of the others as well.

Perhaps so, I hope that for him. I really just don't like thinking that he was lonely deep deep down.

I know.Me either.Lala seems sweet and like she loved him.There was subtle evidence that they were together.I think they must have shared something deep to inspire the beautiful song he wrote for her and the lyrics are telling of that.

Are you Ps psychologist?

P needed to fix himself?

Recovering from drugs?

Ephiphany?

Are you writing a thesis on what was psychologically wrong with P?

As purplegirl said there is real life and then there is illusion.

Or is it delusion?

purplerabbithole said:

Prince had to fix himself first. A strong independent woman of experience wasn't going to be able to do that for himself by herself no matter how fond he might have been of her or how much he respected her.. Fixing himself meant finding balance in his life and this would only happen if he decided to give up his music obsessed, dracula lifestyle and calm the f down for a few years. Maybe had he lived, a time recovering from drugs and taking it easy might have made him search out that strong experienced woman who wasn't wrapped up in her music career. But I don't really like the assumption that young women are a bunch of blockheads who couldn't have some insight to offer the man.

What Prince may have been not brave enough to do was give up his security blankets (his work habits, music obsession, somewhat isolated lifestyle, mysterious persona, outrageous clothes) etc. It doesn't mean he didn't open up privately to people at times but he certainly ran back to those old habits and unless he was brave enough to re-arrange his life, no other person was going to be able to do it for him. He needed an epiphany moment and had he survived he might have gotten more than a few.

purplegirl00 said:

purplefam99 said:

Yes I'm not sure if he was brave enough based on public knowledge, he of course could have had that behind the scenes. I am just thinking that if he had that type of strong partnership that which was
Described above by angel that he would be in an entirely diff head space
And prob wouldn't be taking on protégés any longer. What I am envisioning
For him is just that my envision of what that private stable honest relationship
Could look like for him if I was able to see it.
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Ah gotcha! Perhaps the purpose of continuing to have protégés was to have another avenue to distribute his music while supporting an upcoming artist? I don't know, but I won't make the assumption that because he spent time outside of the recording studio with them, that automatically he was having a romantic relationship with them. To have everyone SEEING them together and thinking they were was good for image and promotion of her (and him & lyrical contents). People would still tie her to him. I also don't know if she may have fallen for him. Perhaps she did as she was very young and impressionable but based on comment that he taught her about love and heartbreak, perhaps he did not return those feelings. Again, what we were shown may have been removed from reality.

purplerabbithole said:

She also said they shared a lot of tears together. To me, that implies that P had feelings for her as well. This assumption that the love was more than likely one-sided and that Prince was probably just trying to use her as a musical distribution device is a bit unfair. I also would like to add that romantic maturity isn't necessarily based entirely on age. I know I was extremely naive at 22 years old.My mom however was a married mother of two by that point and had 3-4 prior boyfriends before getting married to my dad.

purplegirl00 said:

purplefam99 said: Ah gotcha! Perhaps the purpose of continuing to have protégés was to have another avenue to distribute his music while supporting an upcoming artist? I don't know, but I won't make the assumption that because he spent time outside of the recording studio with them, that automatically he was having a romantic relationship with them. To have everyone SEEING them together and thinking they were was good for image and promotion of her (and him & lyrical contents). People would still tie her to him. I also don't know if she may have fallen for him. Perhaps she did as she was very young and impressionable but based on comment that he taught her about love and heartbreak, perhaps he did not return those feelings. Again, what we were shown may have been removed from reality.

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Prince went with Andy to NYC February 2012 while she was there for modeling work.After that ,someone saw them either in upstate New York or Massachusetts at an Ana Moura concert.They were going places together no one would even think to look for them.Just like when he was spotted in Sacramento with Andy.He had been out there for almost two weeks before they were noticed.He spent his Birthday with her while he was out there.I don't think they would have been going to places like that for promotional reasons.They would have been going to restaurants in LA and places they would be sure to be noticed not small towns where few would care.No one but some of the fanbase knew who Andy was at that point and most of the fans didn't care.

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Prince had to fix himself first. A strong independent woman of experience wasn't going to be able to do that for himself by herself no matter how fond he might have been of her or how much he respected her.. Fixing himself meant finding balance in his life and this would only happen if he decided to give up his music obsessed, dracula lifestyle and calm the f down for a few years. Maybe had he lived, a time recovering from drugs and taking it easy might have made him search out that strong experienced woman who wasn't wrapped up in her music career. But I don't really like the assumption that young women are a bunch of blockheads who couldn't have some insight to offer the man.

What Prince may have been not brave enough to do was give up his security blankets (his work habits, music obsession, somewhat isolated lifestyle, mysterious persona, outrageous clothes) etc. It doesn't mean he didn't open up privately to people at times but he certainly ran back to those old habits and unless he was brave enough to re-arrange his life, no other person was going to be able to do it for him. He needed an epiphany moment and had he survived he might have gotten more than a few.

purplefam99 said:

purplegirl00 said:

Why wouldn't he have been strong enough? We do not know with certainty that he didn't have a connection/ partnership like that with someone. Perhaps he did. Too many assumptions here are based on how things looked/ appeared to us, but they may have had nothing to do with reality, the truth. [Edited 9/13/17 19:44pm]

Yes I'm not sure if he was brave enough based on public knowledge, he of course could have had that behind the scenes. I am just thinking that if he had that type of strong partnership that which was Described above by angel that he would be in an entirely diff head space And prob wouldn't be taking on protégés any longer. What I am envisioning For him is just that my envision of what that private stable honest relationship Could look like for him if I was able to see it. [Edited 9/13/17 19:50pm]

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sharpieheartz said:

https://www.facebook.com/...922282039/ "Prince and his companion, Andy Allo." [Edited 9/13/17 21:59pm]

If you personally had shown up anywhere in the world with Prince, you would also have been considered his "companion". Just because you were there with him. And since they were going to a restaurant, that would have made her (or you) his dinner companion.

What do you think this means? It doesn't really mean anything to me, other than he was going to eat at a cafe with someone. A companion can be male or female too so....

Sorry I offended you but isn't anything we talk about here where Prince is concerned theory and anaylsis of what we see and read and hear? I should have prefaced my early post with the words "PROBABLY OR POSSIBLY". Any discussion we have about Prince is according to the confusing and varied bits of info we have. Yes, I know that the public can be duped and that Prince was capable of making things up. But what I choose to believe is true and what you or others choose to believe is true is up to us. Morris Hayes talked about Prince in an interview and you were on the thread believing everything he said. I choose to believe Kim Berry as well who was also a long timer when she said that Prince was dating Andy. After all, Prince did have a lot of down-time with KIm as she did his hair and I am going to guess that he told her stuff here and there about his life or at least about his schedule for the day and that included dates with Andy Allo. It might surprise you to know that I don't know for sure if Judith HIll was really dating P even though she told the police that she was because a.) it might have been a convenient way to describe their mentor/mentoree relationship and because b.) her absense right after his first overdose seems odd for a girlfriend. A girlfriend would have more clout I would think to stick around. I am totally confused about her relationship with him especially after seeing a very calm and non-chalant interview with her a few days after the first overdose thousands of miles away in L.A. However, what also perplexs me is that she apparently flew back right before he died because she must of been around to answer questions from the police.

The 'fixing himself" comment was a reaaction to the folks stating that a good strong woman could have saved Prince. They were talking about fixing Prince as well. But to me the belief that a good strong woman could have helped him is oversimplifying the situtation. He had a lifetime of habits. I was merely stating that that assumption is unfair to younger women and probably not a reflexion of the real reasons he died relatively young of a drug overdoes and alone with no wife or kids or longterm girlfriend (THAT WE KNOW OF)>

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Are you Ps psychologist?

P needed to fix himself?

Recovering from drugs?

Ephiphany?

Are you writing a thesis on what was psychologically wrong with P?

As purplegirl said there is real life and then there is illusion.

Or is it delusion?

purplerabbithole said:

Prince had to fix himself first. A strong independent woman of experience wasn't going to be able to do that for himself by herself no matter how fond he might have been of her or how much he respected her.. Fixing himself meant finding balance in his life and this would only happen if he decided to give up his music obsessed, dracula lifestyle and calm the f down for a few years. Maybe had he lived, a time recovering from drugs and taking it easy might have made him search out that strong experienced woman who wasn't wrapped up in her music career. But I don't really like the assumption that young women are a bunch of blockheads who couldn't have some insight to offer the man.

What Prince may have been not brave enough to do was give up his security blankets (his work habits, music obsession, somewhat isolated lifestyle, mysterious persona, outrageous clothes) etc. It doesn't mean he didn't open up privately to people at times but he certainly ran back to those old habits and unless he was brave enough to re-arrange his life, no other person was going to be able to do it for him. He needed an epiphany moment and had he survived he might have gotten more than a few.

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I believe Sacramento is where her family lived. . Anywhere Prince goes will probably get notice. But it did appear to be a bit of stretch to go to some little dinner alone with this woman in the place she grew up in pretty far away from the glitz of LA and the convenience of Minneapolis. . Maybe they were just buddies but why is it such a stretch to think that there was a bond there and went beyond professional.

Mumio said:

sharpieheartz said:

https://www.facebook.com/...922282039/ "Prince and his companion, Andy Allo." [Edited 9/13/17 21:59pm]

If you personally had shown up anywhere in the world with Prince, you would also have been considered his "companion". Just because you were there with him. And since they were going to a restaurant, that would have made her (or you) his dinner companion.

What do you think this means? It doesn't really mean anything to me, other than he was going to eat at a cafe with someone. A companion can be male or female too so....

Mumio said:

purplerabbithole said:

She also said they shared a lot of tears together. To me, that implies that P had feelings for her as well. This assumption that the love was more than likely one-sided and that Prince was probably just trying to use her as a musical distribution device is a bit unfair. I also would like to add that romantic maturity isn't necessarily based entirely on age. I know I was extremely naive at 22 years old.My mom however was a married mother of two by that point and had 3-4 prior boyfriends before getting married to my dad.

purplegirl00 said:

purplefam99 said: Ah gotcha! Perhaps the purpose of continuing to have protégés was to have another avenue to distribute his music while supporting an upcoming artist? I don't know, but I won't make the assumption that because he spent time outside of the recording studio with them, that automatically he was having a romantic relationship with them. To have everyone SEEING them together and thinking they were was good for image and promotion of her (and him & lyrical contents). People would still tie her to him. I also don't know if she may have fallen for him. Perhaps she did as she was very young and impressionable but based on comment that he taught her about love and heartbreak, perhaps he did not return those feelings. Again, what we were shown may have been removed from reality.

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They may have cried tears together. So what? I have cried tears with total strangers in shared grief and even recently, I cried tears with someone at work who lost 2 close friends back to back. It does not mean that I have now developed a close bond with any of those people. In fact, the one at work I don't really care for her at all but we had a shared experience. We are not ever going to be BFFs just because we cried together. I have boundaries, so does she, and I imagine that Prince had them too.

Why is it unfair to think that "love" could've been one-sided? It happens ALL THE TIME. Young women become taken and intrigued with all the glitz and glam that is offered by the rockstar lifestyle. Prince was taking her everywhere and showing her things that she had never seen or would never see hadn't been for him. He was introducing her to people in his circle but again that may have been for others to take notice. He was being caring and encouraging. That would cause anyone to fall in love, plus, Prince as a middle aged man was hotter than his younger self. Enough said right there. The fact remains that she was still his employee and he did use her as a vehicle to get his music out and put out her out there. He did that with others. What's so special about Andy? Tell me because maybe I am missing something.

You are only going by what you saw, but Prince was so private, whatever was going on with him, we did not see. Why do you think there are so many questions about him now?

Look, I married young as well and I had had several boyfriends prior as well as a wild time for a short period before. My husband was my friend during all of that. He is a little bit older, about 8 years. At first it was a deal breaker but after some experience I was ready. It's not the same thing as the 30 years between Prince and Andy. That's a whole lifetime.

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purplerabbithole said:

The assumption that everyone is lying about P for personal gain is like stating that he was really nothing up but stepping stone for them and their ambitions. Its awful cynical. Did you not say something about all of his associates being a bunch of exploitative liars. Are his associates that bad that none of them ever tell the truth or have genuine feelings or affection for one another or this man? Well, what does that say about Prince himself that he surrounded himself with such obvious douchebags. And seeing as humans are generally fond of others in the human race, what about Prince made it hard to believe that the people around him could be entranced not just by his fame, influence and money and but also his personality, charm, intelligence, humor etc? People's motives are complicated and it is probably easy to see P as invisible and bigger than life. But God, I hope they also saw him as a man whose life was more than just his music and influence..

Iif Prince did have some kind of secret love and it was a woman of his own age, success, and experience, how would she fit into his rock n roll lifestyle? And where was she when he died--because that kind of woman wouldn't have been as easy to keep at bay or in the dark about it.

Second of all, older rock musicians being with younger women is as common as a rainy day in April. Prince had a track record of dating women who he tried to offer mentorship and musical advantages to. I am not saying every woman he mentored was a lay of his or even a romantic interest of his. I made it clear in my long earlier post that music was his conduit to people. MOst of his associates have been saying that for years. Hell, he himself implied the same thing. So, odds are that most of his lovers had some kind of musical connection to him.

Thirdly, who else would he date but women who could fit into his life style. The best ones to fit into his lifestyle were young and aspiring, therefore unattached to responsibities and duties outside of their musical dreams and also willing to work his crazy hours and not too worried about the consequences. (not a whole lot to lose).

Fourthly, so what does that mean about Andy and him. Let's look at it. They were lovey-dovey publically, an associate said they were dating who had no reason to make it up and why wouldn't he say things like "Kim, fix me up nice tonight, I got a date with Andy" etc (as compartmentalized as he was, I don't think it was impossible for his associates to know that P was going out on dates with specific people at specific times), Andy's own brother posted about parties and spirited debates at P's house in turks and Caicos, Andy subtlely and not so subtely aluded to her relationship with P while he was alive but has been on the down low about it after his death (rarely exploiting it), even when she was a more independent artist (and relying less and less Prince), he was still in touch with her in 2014, 2015) . The exact nature, intensity or degree of their relationship is unknown to us. But it is not at all unreasonable to believe that he had a girlfriend for a little while who was younger and a musical partner/mentoree.

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I don't know who you are talking to here, but I will answer some. As I have said time and time again on this thread, Prince was a very private person. While I do think some of his associates are shady and are doing things for personal gain, for the rest, they may be just going by what they saw as well. Just because Kim was his hairdresser for 30 years, it does not mean he shared all of his private life during his hair sessions with her. She knew most about his hair and same thing with his other associates, just because they were collaborators, it does not mean they knew Prince inside and out. These are assumptions. I don't know everything about my boss. I only see what I see but he could be very a different person at home, behind closed doors with his family.

IF, big IF, Prince had someone special in his life at the end, again we would not know. Why are we assuming he had to fit that person in his lifestyle? Perhaps if he had someone, that person did not want to be publicly known. There is just so much we do not know. I keep saying that as a broken record.

sharpieheartz said:

https://www.facebook.com/...922282039/ "Prince and his companion, Andy Allo." [Edited 9/13/17 21:59pm]

Thanks! Hadn't seen that.

purplegirl00 said:

purplerabbithole said:

The assumption that everyone is lying about P for personal gain is like stating that he was really nothing up but stepping stone for them and their ambitions. Its awful cynical. Did you not say something about all of his associates being a bunch of exploitative liars. Are his associates that bad that none of them ever tell the truth or have genuine feelings or affection for one another or this man? Well, what does that say about Prince himself that he surrounded himself with such obvious douchebags. And seeing as humans are generally fond of others in the human race, what about Prince made it hard to believe that the people around him could be entranced not just by his fame, influence and money and but also his personality, charm, intelligence, humor etc? People's motives are complicated and it is probably easy to see P as invisible and bigger than life. But God, I hope they also saw him as a man whose life was more than just his music and influence..

Iif Prince did have some kind of secret love and it was a woman of his own age, success, and experience, how would she fit into his rock n roll lifestyle? And where was she when he died--because that kind of woman wouldn't have been as easy to keep at bay or in the dark about it.

Second of all, older rock musicians being with younger women is as common as a rainy day in April. Prince had a track record of dating women who he tried to offer mentorship and musical advantages to. I am not saying every woman he mentored was a lay of his or even a romantic interest of his. I made it clear in my long earlier post that music was his conduit to people. MOst of his associates have been saying that for years. Hell, he himself implied the same thing. So, odds are that most of his lovers had some kind of musical connection to him.

Thirdly, who else would he date but women who could fit into his life style. The best ones to fit into his lifestyle were young and aspiring, therefore unattached to responsibities and duties outside of their musical dreams and also willing to work his crazy hours and not too worried about the consequences. (not a whole lot to lose).

Fourthly, so what does that mean about Andy and him. Let's look at it. They were lovey-dovey publically, an associate said they were dating who had no reason to make it up and why wouldn't he say things like "Kim, fix me up nice tonight, I got a date with Andy" etc (as compartmentalized as he was, I don't think it was impossible for his associates to know that P was going out on dates with specific people at specific times), Andy's own brother posted about parties and spirited debates at P's house in turks and Caicos, Andy subtlely and not so subtely aluded to her relationship with P while he was alive but has been on the down low about it after his death (rarely exploiting it), even when she was a more independent artist (and relying less and less Prince), he was still in touch with her in 2014, 2015) . The exact nature, intensity or degree of their relationship is unknown to us. But it is not at all unreasonable to believe that he had a girlfriend for a little while who was younger and a musical partner/mentoree.

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I don't know who you are talking to here, but I will answer some. As I have said time and time again on this thread, Prince was a very private person. While I do think some of his associates are shady and are doing things for personal gain, for the rest, they may be just going by what they saw as well. Just because Kim was his hairdresser for 30 years, it does not mean he shared all of his private life during his hair sessions with her. She knew most about his hair and same thing with his other associates, just because they were collaborators, it does not mean they knew Prince inside and out. These are assumptions. I don't know everything about my boss. I only see what I see but he could be very a different person at home, behind closed doors with his family.

IF, big IF, Prince had someone special in his life at the end, again we would not know. Why are we assuming he had to fit that person in his lifestyle? Perhaps if he had someone, that person did not want to be publicly known. There is just so much we do not know. I keep saying that as a broken record.

Did you even listen to the interview. Kim was not talking about who Prince dated. The question concerned how he got into a Afro style again and she said off handily that it was his Andy whom he was dating at the time. Don't you think that she might have been around to see them acutally dating? Why would she make up something like that when that was not even the main topic of the conversation? Also what is the problem with Andy and Prince having dated?

The man had girlfriends and went out on dates. So what. Andy is not running her mouth or writing a book so what is the big deal.

pinkcashmere23 said:

sharpieheartz said:

https://www.facebook.com/...922282039/ "Prince and his companion, Andy Allo." [Edited 9/13/17 21:59pm]

Thanks! Hadn't seen that.

Thanks not maybe people can stop saying he did not date this women and get over it.

I don't think it's a problem with any particular woman, just that assumptions are being made about these muses, proteges, collaborators, and associates and then those assumptions are being treated as though they are the truth. And we are supposed to believe it when he isn't here to say what the real truth is.

And the other piece of it is that I am waiting for the janitor, housekeepers, landscapers, et al. to come out with their "truths" next


Notoriously known for years for his privacy, yet all these "truth" bombs dropping everywhere

Mumio said:

I don't think it's a problem with any particular woman, just that assumptions are being made about these muses, proteges, collaborators, and associates and then those assumptions are being treated as though they are the truth. And we are supposed to believe it when he isn't here to say what the real truth is.

And the other piece of it is that I am waiting for the janitor, housekeepers, landscapers, et al. to come out with their "truths" next


Notoriously known for years for his privacy, yet all these "truth" bombs dropping everywhere

He dated her just accept it. Once again what is the big deal?

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

I am surprised you say that Laura. His childhood was a mess or far from a stable family model. I do agree that his fate would have been different (longer even) if he was in a healthy relationship.

I understand he had a hard road growing up and I am sure the worst role models for relationships but he also had enough money to get the therapy. How many times did he let the good ones get away or just treat the good one like crap and chase bimbos.

all the time