purplegirl00 said:

Andy was working for Prince and he was promoting her, trying to propel her career,and put out more of his music. Anyone that knows anything about public relations and marketing knows that whatever product is being put out there for public consumption, has to be promoted. If Andy and Prince appeared to be together, it was good for Andy and especially the music that was being put out because the content of the lyrics. However, the lyrics, sharpie hearts, and encouraging glances across the stage, and whatever other cutsy, flirty things they did, does not necessarily reflect the REALITY of whatever was going on with them which could've been nothing more than professional mentoring. Seeing is NOT always believing. Life is full of illusions.

In February 2012,Bobby Z said in an interview with Star Tribune that he had dinner Valentines night with Prince,his girlfriend and Larry Graham and his wife.Andy was with Prince.The pic of them at the Dakota was taken on February 12th.It was from a private collection and was not released until after Prince's passing.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Like everyone else, he loved the high of a new love...when it got a little stale and a little real, it was no longer of interest to him. Seems he was a bit of a spoiled brat when it came to woman, wanted all the cream off the top and very little else.

remember that Seinfeld episode where Jerry got turned off cause the girl started doing normal

stuff that he just could take, i think like bending over nude to reach stuff and just general non sexy real life behavior. i wonder what these womens reality was like with him. Please indulge me we all eat so

we all poop. did anyone go poop in front of him, or cough from a sick sick cold, or have gas, or have

bad dandruff, or have a boogie, come on we/he/they are human. thoughts? on real life stuff, think

any of that happened??

pinkcashmere23 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Like everyone else, he loved the high of a new love...when it got a little stale and a little real, it was no longer of interest to him. Seems he was a bit of a spoiled brat when it came to woman, wanted all the cream off the top and very little else.

Well ,Andy pretty much said the same thing about herself last year during one of her shows at The Mint.She said when you first meet someone it's really awesome for the first six months,then after that it's not so much.She then went on to say that she had been seeing someone and was happy to say that they had made it past six months and it was "Still awesome".They don't appear to be together anymore.Andy also has said she falls in love with someone new every day and develops crushes while in a relationship and that "its perfectly natural".Maybe the issue wasn't only with Prince.He also seemed hurt and angry after their possible breakup summer 2013.At his shows,he did a medley of Dark,Old Friends For Sale ,F.U.N.K.and Ain't Gonna Miss U with Andy's song People Pleaser in the middle.He also performed a bit of Superconductor.People naturally thought he was aiming it at Andy.They appeared to have a falling out over something that summer though Prince did see her show at NSJ Festival.

Vashtix said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

In February 2012,Bobby Z said in an interview with Star Tribune that he had dinner Valentines night with Prince,his girlfriend and Larry Graham and his wife.Andy was with Prince.The pic of them at the Dakota was taken on February 12th.It was from a private collection and was not released until after Prince's passing.

Exactly Andy was there as was Bria before her and the wives before Bria. M1 met the British Royals with Prince. There is a pic of M1 with Prince and Prince Charles sharing a laugh. Prince , love him but being with him in public meant . . .that moment. The women were cyclical not consistent nor permanent nor lifers. [Edited 9/13/17 8:26am]

Yeah,after his divorce from Mani,the same old pattern emerged.Then I think it was Liza Hernandez-the girl in the Million Days video.After her came Bria,then Lala,Misty,Andy and so on.

shouldve married her....might ve saved his life....unless she was also imbibing

anangellooksdown said:

See, I think Prince's head was always filled with music which as he said himself was a blessing and a curse. I think this was natural for him (by nature) but also his way of "escaping" at a young age (a result of nurture). But he was made so strong by God that he was able to leave his family and go out on his own at 12 (!) and be the boss so he could have a safe haven in this world, create a universe of his own wherre he could choose who to invite into it and also create his beloved music. Very smart. He knew to protect himself young. Thank God he was given this gift. Otherwise I believe he would've ended up like so many other people from broken or dysfunctional families. Let's not forget that in many ways he was no longer the same Prince from the 80s. The man grew. This is why I put little stock into what the Revolution or people who talk about the sex parties around him in the 90s say. Or even how he reacted to what happened in his first marriage. Some of him stayed the same but he changed a lot too. Flirting, intoxication etc is all about sex, obsession, etc. I think he fell into those things and the musical world was part of that sometimes. But he loved Mayte as a child of God and his life did change when he was with her. I think with Manuela too. Although I believe there were other girls around sometimes, even if it was just flirting or tohave beautiful women around, I think he was always steadily growing more and more. By the 2010s, he was a lot more mature. Here's the thing though: I have talked about this many times...Remember in 2014 he said that whether he got married again would he up to God? And he said that something would have to pull him in to the point he couldn't get away. That's what I think he desired. But with really really young women, they may have sexiness and purity and perfect bodies and fun and music or talent to offer, but i don't think that fulfilled his deepest desires. I will always believe that what Prince wanted more than anything was a woman somewhat older, with some life experience, who was very spiritual[, very honest and very compassionate. Those three things are the most attractive qualities a human being can have. She would have to not need his power and already have her own purpose. She would have to have the other qualities he liked too. And she would have to love him for him, aside from "who he was" socially. She would have to have her own power. Not arguing kind of power, but real power. This is not easily described, but he would know her when she arrived. No manipulation or games or social media posts or using each other. Just total Respect. THAT is The One he wouldn't be able to leave. And there would be no struggle or dominance or inequality. They would be able to work through anything together because there would be trust, and real love is about keeping the others' happiness in utmost priority. Prince could do this. Does that make sense? We have all come so far on this journey together. We have learned so much about Prince. I really appreciate reading everyone's very thoughtful comments here. [Edited 9/13/17 9:09am]

Good points.I agree,the really young girls,such as Andy may not have been ready for a mature relationship.At that age 22/23 they may be more into the fun of it.It makes me wonder listening to songs like This Could B Us and U Will B if that wasn't the case with Andy.Lala and Judith were at least a bit older.From the lyrics of That Girl Thang,that Lala says he gifted her with in February 2013,he seemed to have feelings for her as well.He had some sort of relationship with Tamron,as we have learned.I think it's interesting what he last said about marriage.Perhaps he did desire that deep down but had surrendered it to God,as he said in the interview.

[Edited 9/13/17 11:18am]

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplegirl00 said:

Andy was working for Prince and he was promoting her, trying to propel her career,and put out more of his music. Anyone that knows anything about public relations and marketing knows that whatever product is being put out there for public consumption, has to be promoted. If Andy and Prince appeared to be together, it was good for Andy and especially the music that was being put out because the content of the lyrics. However, the lyrics, sharpie hearts, and encouraging glances across the stage, and whatever other cutsy, flirty things they did, does not necessarily reflect the REALITY of whatever was going on with them which could've been nothing more than professional mentoring. Seeing is NOT always believing. Life is full of illusions.

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

[Edited 9/13/17 12:07pm]

Mumio said:

purplegirl00 said:

Andy was working for Prince and he was promoting her, trying to propel her career,and put out more of his music. Anyone that knows anything about public relations and marketing knows that whatever product is being put out there for public consumption, has to be promoted. If Andy and Prince appeared to be together, it was good for Andy and especially the music that was being put out because the content of the lyrics. However, the lyrics, sharpie hearts, and encouraging glances across the stage, and whatever other cutsy, flirty things they did, does not necessarily reflect the REALITY of whatever was going on with them which could've been nothing more than professional mentoring. Seeing is NOT always believing. Life is full of illusions.

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

[Edited 9/13/17 12:07pm]

Prince apparently introduced Andy to Bobby Z as his girlfriend.I don't see why he would have done that if they weren't dating.The article didn't mention who the girlfriend was but people who said they were there that night, said he was with Andy.It probably was her since the pic of them at the Dakota was taken two nights before.It was pretty obvious to me that they were together by the Montréal Jazz show.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Mumio said:

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

[Edited 9/13/17 12:07pm]

Prince apparently introduced Andy to Bobby Z as his girlfriend.I don't see why he would have done that if they weren't dating.The article didn't mention who the girlfriend was but people who said they were there that night, said he was with Andy.It probably was her since the pic of them at the Dakota was taken two nights before.It was pretty obvious to me that they were together by the Montréal Jazz show.

Pink, you can think whatever you like about it, but I don't buy it for one minute. As time is going on, and as more and more of these "stories" are revealed, what I am believing is that it's really all about the ones doing the telling looking for what they see as their share of attention, not necessarily what was really going on with Prince. There's money to be made and everyone wants their share of it. There is a lot of talking now that he isn't here to refute anything being put out there, but he DID say that there was so much out there that was wrong. And I believed him. And it's still continuing.

Mumio said:

jjam said:

Even Stevie Wonder can tell that's not Andy.

Well... Stevie reads with those little bumps...


And he studies a lot... .... There's a reason he's got so many kids.

Mumio said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Prince apparently introduced Andy to Bobby Z as his girlfriend.I don't see why he would have done that if they weren't dating.The article didn't mention who the girlfriend was but people who said they were there that night, said he was with Andy.It probably was her since the pic of them at the Dakota was taken two nights before.It was pretty obvious to me that they were together by the Montréal Jazz show.

Pink, you can think whatever you like about it, but I don't buy it for one minute. As time is going on, and as more and more of these "stories" are revealed, what I am believing is that it's really all about the ones doing the telling looking for what they see as their share of attention, not necessarily what was really going on with Prince. There's money to be made and everyone wants their share of it. There is a lot of talking now that he isn't here to refute anything being put out there, but he DID say that there was so much out there that was wrong. And I believed him. And it's still continuing.

Ok lol. Prince and Andy didn't have to spend their down time together though.There were random sightings of them all over the place from early 2012 on.They seemed to genuinely enjoy each others company and looked happy at the time.I think it's nice he had someone special again for a while.He always dated young women and that didn't seem to change after his second divorce.Though Bria was said to have been in her thirties at the time they were dating.

purplerabbithole said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Mumio said:

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

[Edited 9/13/17 12:07pm]

Prince apparently introduced Andy to Bobby Z as his girlfriend.I don't see why he would have done that if they weren't dating.The article didn't mention who the girlfriend was but people who said they were there that night, said he was with Andy.It probably was her since the pic of them at the Dakota was taken two nights before.It was pretty obvious to me that they were together by the Montréal Jazz show.

Right. So why are we jumping to conclusions just because they appeared to be together? Again, not everything we SEE is the truth. Prince was fiercely private and I think if he was really seeing someone, we wouldn't have known. Andy was put out front because he was promoting and showcasing her and his music. Being seen with her was part of all that.

purplerabbithole said:

Mumio said:

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

[Edited 9/13/17 12:07pm]

Really was Prince that unlovable or unlikable that even a hairdresser has reason n to lie about who he dated because obviously women only wanted to pretend to date him rather than really date him?

I don't know who has said this. I certainly did not. Prince was lovable and desirable but again because he was very protective of his privacy, I do not think many would've known who he was really seeing, IF he was seeing someone. Maybe not even Kim was privy to the truth.

purplegirl00 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Prince apparently introduced Andy to Bobby Z as his girlfriend.I don't see why he would have done that if they weren't dating.The article didn't mention who the girlfriend was but people who said they were there that night, said he was with Andy.It probably was her since the pic of them at the Dakota was taken two nights before.It was pretty obvious to me that they were together by the Montréal Jazz show.

Right. So why are we jumping to conclusions just because they appeared to be together? Again, not everything we SEE is the truth. Prince was fiercely private and I think if he was really seeing someone, we wouldn't have known. Andy was put out front because he was promoting and showcasing her and his music. Being seen with her was part of all that.

I agree; I do not think people on his payroll knew him as well as they think they did just by what they saw or thought or assumed.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Mumio said:

Pink, you can think whatever you like about it, but I don't buy it for one minute. As time is going on, and as more and more of these "stories" are revealed, what I am believing is that it's really all about the ones doing the telling looking for what they see as their share of attention, not necessarily what was really going on with Prince. There's money to be made and everyone wants their share of it. There is a lot of talking now that he isn't here to refute anything being put out there, but he DID say that there was so much out there that was wrong. And I believed him. And it's still continuing.

Ok lol. Prince and Andy didn't have to spend their down time together though.There were random sightings of them all over the place from early 2012 on.They seemed to genuinely enjoy each others company and looked happy at the time.I think it's nice he had someone special again for a while.He always dated young women and that didn't seem to change after his second divorce.Though Bria was said to have been in her thirties at the time they were dating.

Just because people spend some down time together does not mean they are together in the way that you are suggesting. And just because he was happy does not mean that Andy was the source of that happiness. It could've been many different things. Maybe he was truly happy being single, sexy, and celibate. IF he had someone special, as I've said before, I believe Prince would've kept it completely off the radar.

He was in his 50's and Andy in her early 20's; they were at VERY different places in the lifespan. She had her whole life in front of her and Prince had lived more than half of his at that point. His mindset in his 50s was NOT the same as it was when he was in 20's. Sometimes I think people forget that. Many of you are in your 50s now, do you think the same way you did when you were 25? I hope not. Prince was no different. Oh and those of you in your 50s with daughters in their mid 20s, would you feel enthused about your daughter dating a man your age or older? Eh...

It's so strange how romantically you all seem to think that it was whatever was happening between them.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand unless you are all teenagers, seriously.

Take any ambitious young girl at her age and introduce her to a rich experienced man, possibly attractive as well, so what do you think happens? She fell in love with him cause he had so much to offer and he liked her because at that time he was looking for someone like her. Of course, she was heart broken, cause she believed in fairy tales. He even wrote a song about that. Andy Allo has never been a serious love relationship for him. Get over it. She is hesitating to talk about this relationship because there was none.

I had been so fed up with this fake thing. Prince went quite downhill after he met her, and later that witch Hill. Up to that point, he was looking alright.

[Edited 9/13/17 16:33pm]

Andy wasn't really a protege.She was more of a collaborator,originally joining the band as his "guitarist".I don't think he was really showcasing or promoting her until the fall of 2012 and that was only for a few months.By March of 2013,she was away from Prince and performing as a solo act with her own band at SXSW.Prince performed too and caught some of her show but she did not perform with him or attend his show from what people said.In summer 2013 she headlined her own European tour,again without Prince and with a new band.In an interview with Dr.Funkenberry,Prince said Andy was a "hustler"and got things done,giving it her all no matter what and he told him that Andy put out Superconductor herself,without his help.Prince seemed to admire that and wanted it known that she was independent.

OzlemUcucu said:

It's so strange how romantically you all seem to think that it was whatever was happening between them.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand unless you are all teenagers, seriously.

Take any ambitious young girl at her age and introduce her to a rich experienced man, possibly attractive as well, so what do you think happens? She fell in love with him cause he had so much to offer and he liked her because at that time he was looking for someone like her. Of course, she was heart broken, cause she believed in fairy tales. He even wrote a song about that. Andy Allo has never been a serious love relationship for him. Get over it. She is hesitating to talk about this relationship because there was none.

I had been so fed up with this fake thing. Prince went quite downhill after he met her, and later that witch Hill. Up to that point, he was looking alright.

[Edited 9/13/17 16:33pm]

I seem to remember you posting that they were secretly married in summer of 2012.Perhaps you were being facetious.I believe they dated for at least two years.There was no way the relationship would have worked in the long term.I also think Prince became bored after a while and went back to his old ways and back to Lala by the looks of it.

pinkcashmere23 said:

OzlemUcucu said:

It's so strange how romantically you all seem to think that it was whatever was happening between them.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand unless you are all teenagers, seriously.

Take any ambitious young girl at her age and introduce her to a rich experienced man, possibly attractive as well, so what do you think happens? She fell in love with him cause he had so much to offer and he liked her because at that time he was looking for someone like her. Of course, she was heart broken, cause she believed in fairy tales. He even wrote a song about that. Andy Allo has never been a serious love relationship for him. Get over it. She is hesitating to talk about this relationship because there was none.

I had been so fed up with this fake thing. Prince went quite downhill after he met her, and later that witch Hill. Up to that point, he was looking alright.

[Edited 9/13/17 16:33pm]

I seem to remember you posting that they were secretly married in summer of 2012.Perhaps you were being facetious.I believe they dated for at least two years.There was no way the relationship would have worked in the long term.I also think Prince became bored after a while and went back to his old ways and back to Lala by the looks of it.

Yes I had met this Cameroonian lady who knew Andy's sister and told me that they got secretly married.I thought she was nuts but she had insider knowledge and she wasn't a Prince fan. I have no idea why she'd be lying but who knows?!

Sp I am guesing it was a spirutual marriage

pinkcashmere23 said:

Andy wasn't really a protege.She was more of a collaborator,originally joining the band as his "guitarist".I don't think he was really showcasing or promoting her until the fall of 2012 and that was only for a few months.By March of 2013,she was away from Prince and performing as a solo act with her own band at SXSW.Prince performed too and caught some of her show but she did not perform with him or attend his show from what people said.In summer 2013 she headlined her own European tour,again without Prince and with a new band.In an interview with Dr.Funkenberry,Prince said Andy was a "hustler"and got things done,giving it her all no matter what and he told him that Andy put out Superconductor herself,without his help.Prince seemed to admire that and wanted it known that she was independent.

He probably slept with her few times and she fell in love. I don't know if this qualifies as a relationship. It was probably her imagination but he was sweet with her and treated her well. In my opinion, she has no talent, but she is cute and probably was good for him at that time in his life like a sweet puppy on stage. We liked her a bit just like he did LOL

OzlemUcucu said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I seem to remember you posting that they were secretly married in summer of 2012.Perhaps you were being facetious.I believe they dated for at least two years.There was no way the relationship would have worked in the long term.I also think Prince became bored after a while and went back to his old ways and back to Lala by the looks of it.

Yes I had met this Cameroonian lady who knew Andy's sister and told me that they got secretly married.I thought she was nuts but she had insider knowledge and she wasn't a Prince fan. I have no idea why she'd be lying but who knows?!

Sp I am guesing it was a spirutual marriage

Ohh ok.Interesting.I remember you asking about it.Yeah,I don't think they'd be able to hide an actual marriage and divorce lol.

anangellooksdown said:

purplefam99 said:

anangellooksdown said:

See, I think Prince's head was always filled with music which as he said himself was a blessing and a curse. I think this was natural for him (by nature) but also his way of "escaping" at a young age (a result of nurture). But he was made so strong by God that he was able to leave his family and go out on his own at 12 (!) and be the boss so he could have a safe haven in this world, create a universe of his own wherre he could choose who to invite into it and also create his beloved music. Very smart. He knew to protect himself young. Thank God he was given this gift. Otherwise I believe he would've ended up like so many other people from broken or dysfunctional families. Let's not forget that in many ways he was no longer the same Prince from the 80s. The man grew. This is why I put little stock into what the Revolution or people who talk about the sex parties around him in the 90s say. Or even how he reacted to what happened in his first marriage. Some of him stayed the same but he changed a lot too. Flirting, intoxication, excitement, etc is all about obsession. Good stuff for song-writing but like someone else said, that is not real love. think he fell into those things and the musical world was part of that sometimes. But he loved Mayte as a child of God and his life did change when he was with her. I think with Manuela too. Although I believe there were other girls around sometimes, even if it was just flirting or tohave beautiful women around, I think he was always steadily growing more and more. By the 2010s, he was a lot more mature. Here's the thing though: I have talked about this many times...Remember in 2014 he said that whether he got married again would he up to God? And he said that something would have to pull him in to the point he couldn't get away. That's what I think he desired. But with really really young women, they may have sexiness and purity and perfect bodies and fun and music or talent to offer, but i don't think that fulfilled his deepest desires. I will always believe that what Prince wanted more than anything was a woman somewhat older, with some life experience, who was very spiritual[, very honest and very compassionate. Those three things are the most attractive qualities a human being can have. She would have to not need his power and already have her own purpose. She would have to have the other qualities he liked too. And she would have to love him for him, aside from "who he was" socially. She would have to have her own power. Not what we might think of as power, but real power. This is not easily described. But he would know her when she arrived. No manipulation or games or social media posts or using each other. Just total Respect. THAT is The One he wouldn't be able to leave. And there would be no struggle or dominance or inequality. They would be able to work through anything together because there would be trust, and real love is about keeping the others' happiness in utmost priority. Prince could do this. Does that make sense? We have all come so far on this journey together. We have learned so much about Prince. I really appreciate reading everyone's very thoughtful comments here. [Edited 9/13/17 11:02am]

I agree with what your saying and have said that if he were brave enough to love A women ( the likes of Michelle Obama) like you described can you imagine what he might have been able to accomplish with that kind of partnership. But I'm not sure he was brave enough. Maybe that was too much power. He would have faired far better had he settled with someone his own peer group, I believe. [Edited 9/13/17 19:14pm]

He had that in his friendship with Denise-she was all of that and had been through with him and I think that is why their friendship lasted decades.

purplerabbithole said:

Mumio said:

Exactly. I don't know why there's always so much made of his collaborations with these proteges. People like to live in delusion about his romantic life it seems.

And I don't care what Kim Berry has to say about his romantic life. She's looking for her piece of purple pie too with this kind of talk.

Really was Prince that unlovable or unlikable that even a hairdresser has reason n to lie about who he dated because obviously women only wanted to pretend to date him rather than really date him?

Oh brother, you've got to be kidding me. It's absurd of you to come to a conclusion like this and even worse that you actually put it out there But you go right ahead and twist it however you like. I was quite clear with what I said and I stick by it.

[Edited 9/13/17 19:32pm]