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Reply #60 posted 08/05/17 7:23am

anangellooksdo
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purplerabbithole said:

lwr001 said:



purplerabbithole said:


She got into a lot of trouble with that drug dealing. Apparently, it was just laying everywhere in their house and there was quite a bit of it. She was a school principal I believe before she got caught.



Do you believe she was in the know-how like she says or making some assumptions based on what she saw from a distance. Do you believe that he just let her and her sisters just move into his house and they were privy to that much private info. He was rather private, was he not? It sounds like reasonable assumptions were made at times, but assumptions nonetheless.







laurarichardson said:



Not really. I just put the two most important parts of the book on the org. Mikki spends a lot of time complaining about the music industry in general and apparently had some unrealistic ideas about the industry. She would also later get into trouble with her husband for selling weed so listening to her self-rightousness can be a bit much.



I forgot to mention that she said M2 was nice when P was around and quite fake when he was not and that Prince would send M2 to Toronto and he had a few young ladies hanging around when she was gone so trouble with that marriage was going to happen right from the beginning




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The group was Millenia and yes I beleive her



I am not saying they are lying, I am saying they are making assumption.I guess I just never understood how people could really know who Prince was shagging or not. Even Mayte was not entirely certain everything he was up to and she was his wife. Musicians working with him are not necessarily going to see what goes on behind closed doors. Unless he walked up to Milenia and said "Hey, I am going to send Manuela away so I can bang Tamar" then how would they know what exactly his relationship with young proteges etc was like. Plus what I also don't understand is why Prince thinks sending Manuela to their Toronto home would necessarily protect him from word getting back to her. Plus the Toronto home was bought early in their marriage so does it count like the Spain mansion that supposedly was there as a place to dump off a wifehe wanted to disconnect from.


He might have wanted a break and didn't necessarily care what she thought.
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Reply #61 posted 08/05/17 7:25am

anangellooksdo
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laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:



I am not saying they are lying, I am saying they are making assumption.I guess I just never understood how people could really know who Prince was shagging or not. Even Mayte was not entirely certain everything he was up to and she was his wife. Musicians working with him are not necessarily going to see what goes on behind closed doors. Unless he walked up to Milenia and said "Hey, I am going to send Manuela away so I can bang Tamar" then how would they know what exactly his relationship with young proteges etc was like. Plus what I also don't understand is why Prince thinks sending Manuela to their Toronto home would necessarily protect him from word getting back to her. Plus the Toronto home was bought early in their marriage so does it count like the Spain mansion that supposedly was there as a place to dump off a wifehe wanted to disconnect from.

--Mikki did not say he was shagging anyone but she pointed out he had Geneva hanging around and that Geneva told her she was being paid to just hang around. She also said no one talked about these visitors he had come by when M2 was gone. Remember Jill Jones they were going to still see each other after he told her he was engaged to Susannah Melvoin. He even flew Jill out to see him on the road and soon everybody in the camp knew. She did say that M2 did cook really good vegetarian dishes so it appears she was already a vegetarian prior to hooking up with Prince.


And Prince loved a woman who could cook. I think he loved coming home to a real home.
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Reply #62 posted 08/05/17 7:28am

anangellooksdo
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laurarichardson said:



Superfan1984 said:


so, let me get this straight, Prince let them stay at his house? While he was married to Manuela? eek



I am not sure if they were married at the time she kept refering to her as his girlfriend so I assume that is how Prince introduced her. They might have been engaged but she said he let two of them sleep in his bed and the other two sisters went to another guest room.



He went to another guest room telling them he needed to leave before he got into trouble.



biggrin He was too much



LOL, Yes he was 🤗😄
And he did the right thing.
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Reply #63 posted 08/05/17 7:29am

anangellooksdo
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luvgirl said:

laurarichardson said:


--Mikki did not say he was shagging anyone but she pointed out he had Geneva hanging around and that Geneva told her she was being paid to just hang around. She also said no one talked about these visitors he had come by when M2 was gone. Remember Jill Jones they were going to still see each other after he told her he was engaged to Susannah Melvoin. He even flew Jill out to see him on the road and soon everybody in the camp knew. She did say that M2 did cook really good vegetarian dishes so it appears she was already a vegetarian prior to hooking up with Prince.


He was paying people to just hang around? eek sad bawl


He loved having beautiful talented women around him. For reasons we have discussed here many times. Inspiration etc.
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Reply #64 posted 08/05/17 7:40am

anangellooksdo
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Strawberrylova123 said:

Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley.
[Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]


It doesn't mean he was intimate with them though.
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Reply #65 posted 08/05/17 7:45am

purplefam99

i really feel he was an open book and didn't really try to hide who he was ever. from the start

he was always known to love love love women and to ever think you would be the singular

woman was a dream and nice wonderful fantasy that he helped weave. but to not look at the past

as your clues to the future was just willingly and i'm sure wonderful fantasy. i don't think you could

honestly think anything else but this is my "15 min with Prince" and relax and enjoy it. I feel like if prince had the time he would have eventually gotten to every woman on earth. i don't blame him

for starting with the type he was most attracted too. I would start there too. he just love women too

much to have one if you got into that circle you HAD to know that and accept your fate.

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Reply #66 posted 08/05/17 7:51am

purplefam99

Strawberrylova123 said:

Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley. [Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]

i just don't feel like "womanizing" is the best word for women who probably wanted to be in the situation. womanizing feels more like none of the women would have had a clue to the situation.

if you have a clue, i personally can't call it womanizing, cause it seems you have full disclosure

and are a willing participant.

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Reply #67 posted 08/05/17 2:48pm

laurarichardso
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anangellooksdown said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley.
[Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]


It doesn't mean he was intimate with them though.

--No, she did say anything about him being intimate he just liked hanging with them and thought they had great voices.
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Reply #68 posted 08/05/17 7:43pm

Lovejunky

purplefam99 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley. [Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]

i just don't feel like "womanizing" is the best word for women who probably wanted to be in the situation. womanizing feels more like none of the women would have had a clue to the situation.

if you have a clue, i personally can't call it womanizing, cause it seems you have full disclosure

and are a willing participant.

I agree..

Womanizing seems very harsh a word...

the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...

as Some of us have said many times...

Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...

and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed

even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...

Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..

you know

Like social service ...

booty! tease

*jokes*

before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...

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Reply #69 posted 08/05/17 8:14pm

Strawberrylova
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Lovejunky said:



purplefam99 said:




Strawberrylova123 said:


Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley. [Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]

i just don't feel like "womanizing" is the best word for women who probably wanted to be in the situation. womanizing feels more like none of the women would have had a clue to the situation.


if you have a clue, i personally can't call it womanizing, cause it seems you have full disclosure


and are a willing participant.



I agree..



Womanizing seems very harsh a word...


the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...



as Some of us have said many times...



Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...



and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed


even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...




Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..



you know



Like social service ...



booty! tease



*jokes*


before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...


The definition for womanizing just means engaging sex with multiple woman..thats p
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Reply #70 posted 08/05/17 8:27pm

purplefam99

Strawberrylova123 said:

Lovejunky said:



purplefam99 said:




Strawberrylova123 said:


Unfortunately it seemed prince was still practicing his womanizing ways, just from listening to maya washington interview where she said she saw women coming in and out of paisley. [Edited 8/1/17 17:55pm]

i just don't feel like "womanizing" is the best word for women who probably wanted to be in the situation. womanizing feels more like none of the women would have had a clue to the situation.


if you have a clue, i personally can't call it womanizing, cause it seems you have full disclosure


and are a willing participant.



I agree..



Womanizing seems very harsh a word...


the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...



as Some of us have said many times...



Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...



and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed


even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...




Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..



you know



Like social service ...



booty! tease



*jokes*


before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...


The definition for womanizing just means engaging sex with multiple woman..thats p


Agreed, for me womanizer has a one sided derogatory feel.
But I agree that he did have sex with many women and that probably most
Of those women knew that.
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Reply #71 posted 08/05/17 9:11pm

Lovejunky

Strawberrylova123 said:

Lovejunky said:

I agree..

Womanizing seems very harsh a word...

the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...

as Some of us have said many times...

Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...

and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed

even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...

Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..

you know

Like social service ...

booty! tease

*jokes*

before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...

The definition for womanizing just means engaging sex with multiple woman..thats p

Yep...seems you are right....

Put Don Juan DeMarco and Cassanova to shame Our P...razz

womanize
ˈwʊmənʌɪz/
verb
derogatory
gerund or present participle: womanizing
  1. (of a man) engage in numerous casual sexual affairs with women.
    "he drank, gambled, and womanized compulsively"

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Reply #72 posted 08/05/17 9:42pm

Strawberrylova
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Lovejunky said:



Strawberrylova123 said:


Lovejunky said:


I agree..



Womanizing seems very harsh a word...


the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...



as Some of us have said many times...



Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...



and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed


even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...




Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..



you know



Like social service ...



booty! tease



*jokes*


before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...



The definition for womanizing just means engaging sex with multiple woman..thats p

Yep...seems you are right....



Put Don Juan DeMarco and Cassanova to shame Our P...razz






womanize


ˈwʊmənʌɪz/


verb
derogatory


gerund or present participle: womanizing






  1. (of a man) engage in numerous casual sexual affairs with women.


    "he drank, gambled, and womanized compulsively"











In the michael dean podcast interview with Wally Stafford he called p a womanizer ( in a funny way) lol
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Reply #73 posted 08/05/17 9:51pm

rogifan

purplefam99 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:


The definition for womanizing just means engaging sex with multiple woman..thats p


Agreed, for me womanizer has a one sided derogatory feel.
But I agree that he did have sex with many women and that probably most
Of those women knew that.

Even after M2? And I’m talking about “many”.

Here’s an interview from 2008:

http://usatoday30.usatoda...ghts_N.htm
"I'm single, celibate and sexy," he says with a laugh. "I feel free."


On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person."

For now, songs offer sufficient companionship. "Music to me is a life force," he says. "It's not what I do. It's what I am."
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #74 posted 08/05/17 10:06pm

purplefam99

rogifan said:[quote]

purplefam99 said:



On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person."

For now, songs offer sufficient companionship. "Music to me is a life force," he says. "It's not what I do. It's what I am."


Rogifan, I guess I'm more speaking about the term "womanizing" Being
Applied to describe him in general. I was less addressing the periods of
Time when the behavior occurred. I can see that he was less active during certain
Periods and more specifically perhaps later in life. But
My point was that womanizer the words sounds like it puts it all on one side,
And I think some if not most knew they were not the only woman, so a term that more befits that type of arrangement than womanizer is needed. In my opinion.
[Edited 8/5/17 22:08pm]
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Reply #75 posted 08/06/17 1:15am

CatB

Lovejunky said:

purplefam99 said:

i just don't feel like "womanizing" is the best word for women who probably wanted to be in the situation. womanizing feels more like none of the women would have had a clue to the situation.

if you have a clue, i personally can't call it womanizing, cause it seems you have full disclosure

and are a willing participant.

I agree..

Womanizing seems very harsh a word...

the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...

as Some of us have said many times...

Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...

and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed

even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...

Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..

you know

Like social service ...

booty! tease

*jokes*

before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...



Sometimes jokes tell the truth and you probably have no idea how right you are.



"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #76 posted 08/06/17 4:11am

Lovejunky

Actually Cat I do....

I could give a most poignant analysis of Solo....

but these things

are not for the ears of everyone..

Some are very blinded by Judgement and there for cannot really SEE

CatB said:

Lovejunky said:

I agree..

Womanizing seems very harsh a word...

the inference is that the woman are someow conned or tricked into the situation...

as Some of us have said many times...

Very much doubt that Prince had to hold a gun to anyones head to get into his bed...

and more than that it seems many women were willing to get back into that bed

even KNOWING full well that they werent the last ones in it...

Im more inclined to think that he did them a favour..

you know

Like social service ...

booty! tease

*jokes*

before anyone JUMPS on my HEAD...



Sometimes jokes tell the truth and you probably have no idea how right you are.



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Reply #77 posted 08/06/17 6:36am

CatB



Not sure we talk about the same thing question but ok ... what's the connection to Solo then?


Lovejunky said:

Actually Cat I do....

I could give a most poignant analysis of Solo....

but these things

are not for the ears of everyone..

Some are very blinded by Judgement and there for cannot really SEE

CatB said:



Sometimes jokes tell the truth and you probably have no idea how right you are.










"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #78 posted 08/06/17 11:40am

purplefam99

CatB said:



Not sure we talk about the same thing question but ok ... what's the connection to Solo then?





Lovejunky said:


Actually Cat I do....




I could give a most poignant analysis of Solo....



but these things


are not for the ears of everyone..



Some are very blinded by Judgement and there for cannot really SEE





CatB said:





Sometimes jokes tell the truth and you probably have no idea how right you are.

















Yes what is the solo connect?
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Reply #79 posted 08/06/17 3:26pm

Lovejunky

Solo was written about an encounter he had with a desperate Fan...

Listen to it with That Filter..

Its very telling about the kinds of emotional enviroments Prince was constantly immersed in,

Solo gives you a clear snapshot

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Reply #80 posted 08/06/17 3:57pm

purplefam99

Lovejunky said:



Solo was written about an encounter he had with a desperate Fan...



Listen to it with That Filter..



Its very telling about the kinds of emotional enviroments Prince was constantly immersed in,



Solo gives you a clear snapshot




Ummm lovejunky, I think I need to hear this analysis. Here
Or another thread, or org me, but I think I need to hear it.
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Reply #81 posted 08/06/17 5:17pm

laurarichardso
n

rogifan said:

purplefam99 said:
On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person." For now, songs offer sufficient companionship. "Music to me is a life force," he says. "It's not what I do. It's what I am."

None of us doubt he did not try but a lot of women were hanging around Paisley in the later years. He tried to make a move on Kandance Springs and Shameless Maya. We know he had more that a passing interest in Andy Allo. Remember the honey collective.

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Reply #82 posted 08/06/17 5:38pm

purplefam99

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

purplefam99 said:

None of us doubt he did not try but a lot of women were hanging around Paisley in the later years. He tried to make a move on Kandance Springs and Shameless Maya. We know he had more that a passing interest in Andy Allo. Remember the honey collective.

what is the honey collective?? is that when he was into women with natural hair/afro's. that seems to

be his deal for a while.

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Reply #83 posted 08/06/17 5:49pm

laurarichardso
n

purplefam99 said:

laurarichardson said:

what is the honey collective?? is that when he was into women with natural hair/afro's. that seems to

be his deal for a while.

It was bunch of women he had hanging around. I believe La La Escarza was one of them. He put something about it on his Social Media.

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Reply #84 posted 08/06/17 6:29pm

purplegirl00

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

what is the honey collective?? is that when he was into women with natural hair/afro's. that seems to

be his deal for a while.

It was bunch of women he had hanging around. I believe La La Escarza was one of them. He put something about it on his Social Media.

That's a "honey collective"? Sounds like a harem to me, except he was celibate, no?

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Reply #85 posted 08/06/17 8:01pm

purplefam99

purplegirl00 said:



laurarichardson said:




purplefam99 said:



what is the honey collective?? is that when he was into women with natural hair/afro's. that seems to


be his deal for a while.



It was bunch of women he had hanging around. I believe La La Escarza was one of them. He put something about it on his Social Media.




That's a "honey collective"? Sounds like a harem to me, except he was celibate, no?



Bee hive 😁
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Reply #86 posted 08/06/17 9:03pm

CatB

purplefam99 said:

Lovejunky said:

Solo was written about an encounter he had with a desperate Fan...

Listen to it with That Filter..

Its very telling about the kinds of emotional enviroments Prince was constantly immersed in,

Solo gives you a clear snapshot

Ummm lovejunky, I think I need to hear this analysis. Here Or another thread, or org me, but I think I need to hear it.



I'd be interested too for as far as I know the lyrics were not written by P



"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #87 posted 08/06/17 9:21pm

2004Fan

CatB said:

purplefam99 said:

Lovejunky said: Ummm lovejunky, I think I need to hear this analysis. Here Or another thread, or org me, but I think I need to hear it.



I'd be interested too for as far as I know the lyrics were not written by P



You're right, CatB. The lyrics were written by David H. Whang, who also wrote the play M. Butterfly. Prince vault should provide more information on this haunting song.

[Edited 8/6/17 21:24pm]

I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again...
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Reply #88 posted 08/06/17 11:21pm

Lovejunky

2004Fan said:

CatB said:



I'd be interested too for as far as I know the lyrics were not written by P



You're right, CatB. The lyrics were written by David H. Whang, who also wrote the play M. Butterfly. Prince vault should provide more information on this haunting song.

[Edited 8/6/17 21:24pm]

Actually NO the Lyrics WERE Written by P...but incorporated part of a Poem that Whang had written.

When COME came out WHang was suprised that his name appeared in the Credits despite their never having been any agreement written or otherwise...

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Reply #89 posted 08/06/17 11:35pm

CatB

Lovejunky said:

2004Fan said:

You're right, CatB. The lyrics were written by David H. Whang, who also wrote the play M. Butterfly. Prince vault should provide more information on this haunting song.

[Edited 8/6/17 21:24pm]

Actually NO the Lyrics WERE Written by P...but incorporated part of a Poem that Whang had written.

When COME came out WHang was suprised that his name appeared in the Credits despite their never having been any agreement written or otherwise...



That's not what I know about it but I'd really like to hear your take on it. You can also org note me if you prefer.

Thank you.



"Time is space spent with U"
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