GaryMF said:

Oh, like how Mayte and others stay out of it?

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She has been nothing but respectful, unlike you. Your post is so rude and out of line.

Where has Mayte been in anything???? At the BET tribute with Ms. E? Wow, such a meddler. Writing her own book which was started before he died? I don't see her making the grandiose statements Sheila has.

I never said Sheila wasn't respectful, I said she has no room to meddle in estate affairs anyway. It's not up to her to even decide to mess with it. I'm not rude, I speak the truth. If you don't like the truth, don't read it. Put it out of your head. But I am not here to coddle anyone. As I said, I respect Sheila, but she needs to take a seat and get her fingers out of the pie. I mean, if she's independently wealthy, why even do the cover?? She already did a cruise, and a tribute song... but yeah, she's independently wealthy.

SquirrelMeat said:

I actually really like this version.

TrivialPursuit said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Mayte's main talent is dancing. Where the hell does she even fit into most tributes to Prince? Hell, even when she was with NPG, a lot of his associates wondered what she was doing there. PLus, Mayte had been out of the picture for quite a long time. So, she is kind of unneeded in musical tributes to Prince in a way and has little to add to the discussion in terms of most of his music career (she wasn't there during his peak and she wasn't there anywhere near the end). . So how does she insert herself into the narrative? She writes a book about their 'love' and releases it close to the anniversary of his death and then allows the juicist tid-bits to be on the cover of People Magazine. Exploiting Prince's talent is not offensive. He wouldn't have really minded it so much when he was alive but even if he did..artists rights don't matter when you are dead. What matters now is his legacy and the only disservice to his legacy now is the stuff that either distracts from his talent or de-emphasizes it. Sheila has done neither of those things. She rides the coattails of their collaborations a little more now than she used to. But when he was alive, he carried on his own legacy. Now, others have to do it but they have to make a living too. Using Prince's legacy to prop up your own is opportunism but depending on how you do it, it can be respectful and a way to honor him or it can be a way to diminish him and build oneself up. With Mayte's book, I do think at times she is honoring him but I also think she matyrs herself way too much for me to think she isn't a bit passively aggressively doing the very thing Kat Graham accuses her of.

TrivialPursuit said:

GaryMF said:

Oh, like how Mayte and others stay out of it?

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She has been nothing but respectful, unlike you. Your post is so rude and out of line.

Where has Mayte been in anything???? At the BET tribute with Ms. E? Wow, such a meddler. Writing her own book which was started before he died? I don't see her making the grandiose statements Sheila has.

I never said Sheila wasn't respectful, I said she has no room to meddle in estate affairs anyway. It's not up to her to even decide to mess with it. I'm not rude, I speak the truth. If you don't like the truth, don't read it. Put it out of your head. But I am not here to coddle anyone. As I said, I respect Sheila, but she needs to take a seat and get her fingers out of the pie. I mean, if she's independently wealthy, why even do the cover?? She already did a cruise, and a tribute song... but yeah, she's independently wealthy.

remko said:

Interesting, about her meeting candy for the first time. Is was not in 87 during sing o the times. NOt in amsterdam either as the sott tour took place in utrecht and rotterdam. Candy was supposed to be supprting in 1988, in rotterdam during the lovesexy tour.

I think I remember Candy pitching up at Paisley Park and demanding an audition and getting it.

She is integral to a lot of the songs that dancing seemed to be connected to the songs. 7 is an example of it.

purplerabbithole said:

Mayte's main talent is dancing. Where the hell does she even fit into most tributes to Prince? Hell, even when she was with NPG, a lot of his associates wondered what she was doing there. PLus, Mayte had been out of the picture for quite a long time. So, she is kind of unneeded in musical tributes to Prince in a way and has little to add to the discussion in terms of most of his music career (she wasn't there during his peak and she wasn't there anywhere near the end). . So how does she insert herself into the narrative? She writes a book about their 'love' and releases it close to the anniversary of his death and then allows the juicist tid-bits to be on the cover of People Magazine. Exploiting Prince's talent is not offensive. He wouldn't have really minded it so much when he was alive but even if he did..artists rights don't matter when you are dead. What matters now is his legacy and the only disservice to his legacy now is the stuff that either distracts from his talent or de-emphasizes it. Sheila has done neither of those things. She rides the coattails of their collaborations a little more now than she used to. But when he was alive, he carried on his own legacy. Now, others have to do it but they have to make a living too. Using Prince's legacy to prop up your own is opportunism but depending on how you do it, it can be respectful and a way to honor him or it can be a way to diminish him and build oneself up. With Mayte's book, I do think at times she is honoring him but I also think she matyrs herself way too much for me to think she isn't a bit passively aggressively doing the very thing Kat Graham accuses her of.

TrivialPursuit said:

Where has Mayte been in anything???? At the BET tribute with Ms. E? Wow, such a meddler. Writing her own book which was started before he died? I don't see her making the grandiose statements Sheila has.

I never said Sheila wasn't respectful, I said she has no room to meddle in estate affairs anyway. It's not up to her to even decide to mess with it. I'm not rude, I speak the truth. If you don't like the truth, don't read it. Put it out of your head. But I am not here to coddle anyone. As I said, I respect Sheila, but she needs to take a seat and get her fingers out of the pie. I mean, if she's independently wealthy, why even do the cover?? She already did a cruise, and a tribute song... but yeah, she's independently wealthy.

MacDaddy said:

I actually really like this version.

She has done America on her shows from 2012

This is very similar to the way they did it live.

andymacfunky said:

remko said:

Interesting, about her meeting candy for the first time. Is was not in 87 during sing o the times. NOt in amsterdam either as the sott tour took place in utrecht and rotterdam. Candy was supposed to be supprting in 1988, in rotterdam during the lovesexy tour.

I think I remember Candy pitching up at Paisley Park and demanding an audition and getting it.

No, you don't remember anything of the sort see below Candy discussing how they met when he decided not to let her band open for him at the last minute.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-14/entertainment/ca-46070_1_candy-dulfer

OldFriends4Sale said:

MacDaddy said:

I actually really like this version.

She has done America on her shows from 2012

This is very similar to the way they did it live.

Exactly, I think this version is good not as good as the orignal but really good. I honestly think we have people on this board who just flat out do not like her for whatever reason.

They do not know that she was the band director when she worked for him, that she was a talent agent that refered musicians to him for years and that she brought a lot of good people in from Oakland to play in his bands.

She was not a nobody in Prince's private and personal life. She did keep her mouth closed about their relationship for a long time which is a lot better than most of the women and she has not said anything salicious and negative when in reality she could because he did dog her just like all the other women.

OldFriends4Sale said:

MacDaddy said:

I actually really like this version.

She has done America on her shows from 2012

This is very similar to the way they did it live.

I've seen her a number of times in London and Amsterdam the last couple of years but have not heard her play America. Really nice to have this version now. Sweet that she incorporated bits of Free as well.

There is little understanding for people who got close to him. It's almost impossible to get out of the sphere and not be associated with him, with a dreadful fear that is for life. This is the ony thing to grasp.

Did you see the state of music industry, apart from Miley's slit? Let them live through, they have bills, they try their best (man, she's following the no-playback bullshit ethic, this is a very decent reprise [except for "Free", this is atrocious], what more do you want?).

But to put against the fact that they must make a living (and if I could do it without working, I would, there is art to be done, playing with kids, you name it, shit!) and their love for Prince, I think it's a bad trial. It's not one or the other. Life doesn't work that way. Right?

[Edited 6/8/17 7:51am]

MacDaddy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She has done America on her shows from 2012

This is very similar to the way they did it live.

I've seen her a number of times in London and Amsterdam the last couple of years but have not heard her play America. Really nice to have this version now. Sweet that she incorporated bits of Free as well.

there is a snippet of a show from 2013 where Brown Mark guested on bass on America with her band.

I believe her band and Mazarati did American on some of their shows/aftershows in 1985/86 too.

How much of Sheila E's setlists these days consists of songs from her own albums vs songs Prince released himself? She's playing in my city this summer, but I'd prefer to hear her sing her own music as opposed to a bunch of Prince covers. Let The Revolution and NPG do that.

sexton said:

How much of Sheila E's setlists these days consists of songs from her own albums vs songs Prince released himself? She's playing in my city this summer, but I'd prefer to hear her sing her own music as opposed to a bunch of Prince covers. Let The Revolution and NPG do that.

Before he died, it was mostly her own stuff at the last show I saw. I prefer when she does Prince stuff. She does some of his songs better live than he did.

That Egyptian belly dancer stuff is there. Sure. I see what you mean. And maybe some of the love songs. But that is not the bulk of his work. And her involvement in love songs of his right now would be kind of awkward.

OldFriends4Sale said:

She is integral to a lot of the songs that dancing seemed to be connected to the songs. 7 is an example of it.

purplerabbithole said:

Mayte's main talent is dancing. Where the hell does she even fit into most tributes to Prince? Hell, even when she was with NPG, a lot of his associates wondered what she was doing there. PLus, Mayte had been out of the picture for quite a long time. So, she is kind of unneeded in musical tributes to Prince in a way and has little to add to the discussion in terms of most of his music career (she wasn't there during his peak and she wasn't there anywhere near the end). . So how does she insert herself into the narrative? She writes a book about their 'love' and releases it close to the anniversary of his death and then allows the juicist tid-bits to be on the cover of People Magazine. Exploiting Prince's talent is not offensive. He wouldn't have really minded it so much when he was alive but even if he did..artists rights don't matter when you are dead. What matters now is his legacy and the only disservice to his legacy now is the stuff that either distracts from his talent or de-emphasizes it. Sheila has done neither of those things. She rides the coattails of their collaborations a little more now than she used to. But when he was alive, he carried on his own legacy. Now, others have to do it but they have to make a living too. Using Prince's legacy to prop up your own is opportunism but depending on how you do it, it can be respectful and a way to honor him or it can be a way to diminish him and build oneself up. With Mayte's book, I do think at times she is honoring him but I also think she matyrs herself way too much for me to think she isn't a bit passively aggressively doing the very thing Kat Graham accuses her of.

sexton said:

How much of Sheila E's setlists these days consists of songs from her own albums vs songs Prince released himself? She's playing in my city this summer, but I'd prefer to hear her sing her own music as opposed to a bunch of Prince covers. Let The Revolution and NPG do that.

She does her music with Prince, but the rest is stuff from the EFamily or other stuff.

Glamorous Life
the Belle of St Mark
Olivers House
Erotic City

A Love Bizarre

Koo Koo

she has done Pop Life, America

since Prince has passed she's added some other songs like Housequake, Let's Work etc stuff she did at the BET Tribute

She's doing Pop Life here

purplerabbithole said:

That Egyptian belly dancer stuff is there. Sure. I see what you mean. And maybe some of the love songs. But that is not the bulk of his work. And her involvement in love songs of his right now would be kind of awkward.

OldFriends4Sale said:

She is integral to a lot of the songs that dancing seemed to be connected to the songs. 7 is an example of it.

1991-1996/97 Mayte was intertwined in the Prince catalogue visually and vocally.

Just go through the period mentioned above and u will c love songs is the least of the connection

I'm not on the Sheila train. All she sees is the $$$. She's milking it.

PennyPurple said:

I'm not on the Sheila train. All she sees is the $$$. She's milking it.

And your girl is working for free?

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm not on the Sheila train. All she sees is the $$$. She's milking it.

And your girl is working for free?

Though Sheila is talented in her own right, I'm not a fan of her. She and Prince had a falling out back in the Fall of 2012 during the W2A tour. I don't know if they ever patched things up. They seemed to be on the outs. I wonder what it was about?

purplegirl00 said:

laurarichardson said:

And your girl is working for free?

Though Sheila is talented in her own right, I'm not a fan of her. She and Prince had a falling out back in the Fall of 2012 during the W2A tour. I don't know if they ever patched things up. They seemed to be on the outs. I wonder what it was about?

This has been cleared up and discussed.
There was a progression of things from Prince first removing Sheila from the 2nd part of the Welcome 2 Europe tour...
There there was something later of Prince promising Sheila and the EFamily band to open for him during some part of the Welcome 2 America tour. She had been performing with him again by this point. And I believe at the last minute Prince put Larry Graham up over them.

A bit later, Sheila E posted on her FB about flying to Minneapolis to talk with Prince.

PennyPurple said:

I'm not on the Sheila train. All she sees is the $$$. She's milking it.

But she really is not doing anything 'new' since he passed. She has always been doing this, doing the music, even when Prince was alive and she was doing shows with him. If she came out of nowhere, not having a relationship with Prince (like Tony M and a few others from the NPG) I might agree. But she is just doing what she always has and what I expect. Keeping the music and memory alive.

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm not on the Sheila train. All she sees is the $$$. She's milking it.

But she really is not doing anything 'new' since he passed. She has always been doing this, doing the music, even when Prince was alive and she was doing shows with him. If she came out of nowhere, not having a relationship with Prince (like Tony M and a few others from the NPG) I might agree. But she is just doing what she always has and what I expect. Keeping the music and memory alive.

Was she using his symbol before he passed?

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplegirl00 said:

Though Sheila is talented in her own right, I'm not a fan of her. She and Prince had a falling out back in the Fall of 2012 during the W2A tour. I don't know if they ever patched things up. They seemed to be on the outs. I wonder what it was about?

This has been cleared up and discussed.
There was a progression of things from Prince first removing Sheila from the 2nd part of the Welcome 2 Europe tour...
There there was something later of Prince promising Sheila and the EFamily band to open for him during some part of the Welcome 2 America tour. She had been performing with him again by this point. And I believe at the last minute Prince put Larry Graham up over them.

A bit later, Sheila E posted on her FB about flying to Minneapolis to talk with Prince.

Thanks for filling me in. I hadn't been following all of that so I wasn't sure what went down. All I knew was that they weren't on good terms.

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But she really is not doing anything 'new' since he passed. She has always been doing this, doing the music, even when Prince was alive and she was doing shows with him. If she came out of nowhere, not having a relationship with Prince (like Tony M and a few others from the NPG) I might agree. But she is just doing what she always has and what I expect. Keeping the music and memory alive.

Was she using his symbol before he passed?

Give it up.

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She was one of his best friends and closest musical collaborators. stop spreading hate because you're jealous.

GaryMF said:

PennyPurple said:

Was she using his symbol before he passed?

Give it up.

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She was one of his best friends and closest musical collaborators. stop spreading hate because you're jealous.

The last time she was on stage with him was 2011. She didn't speak to him 8-10 months before he died. That's not a bff relationship.

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If everybody else doesn't get a pass, then neither does Sheila & Prince's symbol.

When was the last time you played with him?
I think it was four or five years ago, during the 21 Nights [residency] at the Forum in L.A. [in 2011]. I don’t really know the last time I spoke with him, maybe within the year, maybe eight months. ~Billboard