The Tribute Concert in MN..you know what I am talking about.

Zannaloaf said:

purplerabbithole said:

Who said they were damned if they don't perform. Just appearing on stage to honor Prince in a speaking capacity would have been enough. What damns them when it comes to performing is the fact they are willing to do a tour of the music they contributed to but didn't actually show or send a tape to the tribute memorial that covered the whole span of his career. Bobby Z came (to his credit.) I have no criticism whatsoever of those who remained quiet (which seems to be nearly no one). Bria Valente is the only one..and good for her.

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Which memorial. There were several. And they attended at least one I know of.

Stirring the pot would only be an appropriate opinion if Mark Brown himself was an org member. I have an opinion and that's what we are here for. Aren't we here for Prince? By all means, we should honor his associates, but he should come first.

I don't WANT to read that shit. Don't you think as a fan of Prince and as someone who would like him to go down in history with the proper reverence and respect he deserves (and not just empty hyperbolic accolades after he dies accompanying with the overusage of the song Purple Rain), that I would love to read his former associates not belittle his contributions by raising up their own and neglecting to mention his. We live in a cynical world. I hope with all my heart that Brown really didn't mean to imply anything, but I also am very sensitive about how a legacy is supported. It doesn't take much for acclaimed artists to be labeled as overrated once people realize that they are indeed human beings.. I also can't help but feel that those who support everything the Revolution says or does in terms of Prince are really just as biased as they accuse me of being.

I never said Brown was a bad person or lying. I said he needs to be more delicate and balanced with his accounts of Prince's contributions vs his own. Saying he created (or wrote) the music for Kiss completely eliminates Prince from the creative process. Saying he co-wrote Kiss would have been more appropriate and respecful. Saying this is "our" music and not clarifying that the "our" includes Prince (and is mostly Prince actually) while mentioning that Prince was gone for weeks is just a stupid thing to say even if it was taken out of context. The dude needs some PR practice or maybe should just be quiet and let the music talk.

Zannaloaf said:

purplerabbithole said:

He might not be insinutating anything. But it sounds bad. In his attempts to justify the Revolution's recent tours, he is not thinking about the way people (unknowledgable about their history) can jump from A to Z. They could easily go from thinking Prince doing everything was a myth to thinking Prince was doing very little at all. ' Its 'our' band. He was gone for weeks. we worked while he was gone and then he made a few tweeks when he returned.' He might just be saying we had input but he is not saying it well or with a delicacy. And you juxtaposition all those statements with the fact that they are touring without the man (like he was David Lee roth or something.) It gives the impression of Prince being unneeded and absent then and now. Even the article stated that some people thought the tour was a cash grab and crass..

Its like going from thinking Abe Lincoln was am egalitarian hero to believing that Abraham LIncoln was not really an anti-slavery president but instead was a white supremist who believed in deportation and was forced into freeing slaves against his will. A to Z disillusionment. The reality was neither.

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You seem to have the problem here. You are reading as you WANT to read it to be a thing and stirring the pot.

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woogiebear said:

I'm HALFWAY KIDDING!!!! But His voice sounds better than Dave's!!! And Gary's!!!

Years ago there was a rumor that the Beatle sons (Zak Starkey, Dhani Harrison, Sean Lennon, James McCartney) was going to start a band together. I also recall some people wanting The Beatles to reform and use Julian Lennon to replace John. George was still alive at the time. I think Paul even mentions this in the Anthology videos. I haven't watched it in a long time, so not sure.

Zannaloaf said:

David Z worked on Kiss with Prince and has said numerous times that Prince wrote that song. Sir Casey from Mazariti has tried to say he wrote it but David Z said Prince came along and completly rearranged the song and rewrote it. If you have ever heard the Mazaritii version you would know that it sucked ass. I have no idea why Brown Mark is saying he wrote it because I have never heard his named mentioned in conjuntion with this song before.

He needs to close his mouth about songs unless he had the copyright on something. He never was successfull as a songwriter, produceder, seesion player or solo act. I can give Wendy and Lisa some props because they actually had carreers and success without Prince. The rest of them need to have a seat. I mean Mark was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page a few years ago. Sorry that is not the appearance of success.

purplerabbithole said:

Stirring the pot would only be an appropriate opinion if Mark Brown himself was an org member. I have an opinion and that's what we are here for. Aren't we here for Prince? By all means, we should honor his associates, but he should come first.

I don't WANT to read that shit. Don't you think as a fan of Prince and as someone who would like him to go down in history with the proper reverence and respect he deserves (and not just empty hyperbolic accolades after he dies accompanying with the overusage of the song Purple Rain), that I would love to read his former associates not belittle his contributions by raising up their own and neglecting to mention his. We live in a cynical world. I hope with all my heart that Brown really didn't mean to imply anything, but I also am very sensitive about how a legacy is supported. It doesn't take much for acclaimed artists to be labeled as overrated once people realize that they are indeed human beings.. I also can't help but feel that those who support everything the Revolution says or does in terms of Prince are really just as biased as they accuse me of being.

I never said Brown was a bad person or lying. I said he needs to be more delicate and balanced with his accounts of Prince's contributions vs his own. Saying he created (or wrote) the music for Kiss completely eliminates Prince from the creative process. Saying he co-wrote Kiss would have been more appropriate and respecful. Saying this is "our" music and not clarifying that the "our" includes Prince (and is mostly Prince actually) while mentioning that Prince was gone for weeks is just a stupid thing to say even if it was taken out of context. The dude needs some PR practice or maybe should just be quiet and let the music talk.

Zannaloaf said:

You seem to have the problem here. You are reading as you WANT to read it to be a thing and stirring the pot.

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Prince GAVE it 2 Mazarati & then took it BACK (smart move in the long run & historically)!!! Same w/"Jerk Out". Prince gave it 2 Mazarati, and re-gifted it 2 The Time for Their "Pandemonium" Project. AGAIN- smart move in the long run (& historically)......

laurarichardson said:

David Z worked on Kiss with Prince and has said numerous times that Prince wrote that song. Sir Casey from Mazariti has tried to say he wrote it but David Z said Prince came along and completly rearranged the song and rewrote it. If you have ever heard the Mazaritii version you would know that it sucked ass. I have no idea why Brown Mark is saying he wrote it because I have never heard his named mentioned in conjuntion with this song before.

He needs to close his mouth about songs unless he had the copyright on something. He never was successfull as a songwriter, produceder, seesion player or solo act. I can give Wendy and Lisa some props because they actually had carreers and success without Prince. The rest of them need to have a seat. I mean Mark was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page a few years ago. Sorry that is not the appearance of success.

purplerabbithole said:

Stirring the pot would only be an appropriate opinion if Mark Brown himself was an org member. I have an opinion and that's what we are here for. Aren't we here for Prince? By all means, we should honor his associates, but he should come first.

I don't WANT to read that shit. Don't you think as a fan of Prince and as someone who would like him to go down in history with the proper reverence and respect he deserves (and not just empty hyperbolic accolades after he dies accompanying with the overusage of the song Purple Rain), that I would love to read his former associates not belittle his contributions by raising up their own and neglecting to mention his. We live in a cynical world. I hope with all my heart that Brown really didn't mean to imply anything, but I also am very sensitive about how a legacy is supported. It doesn't take much for acclaimed artists to be labeled as overrated once people realize that they are indeed human beings.. I also can't help but feel that those who support everything the Revolution says or does in terms of Prince are really just as biased as they accuse me of being.

I never said Brown was a bad person or lying. I said he needs to be more delicate and balanced with his accounts of Prince's contributions vs his own. Saying he created (or wrote) the music for Kiss completely eliminates Prince from the creative process. Saying he co-wrote Kiss would have been more appropriate and respecful. Saying this is "our" music and not clarifying that the "our" includes Prince (and is mostly Prince actually) while mentioning that Prince was gone for weeks is just a stupid thing to say even if it was taken out of context. The dude needs some PR practice or maybe should just be quiet and let the music talk.

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Jerk Out was originally a What Time Is It? outtake

I wish it was released in 1982

woogiebear said:

Prince GAVE it 2 Mazarati & then took it BACK (smart move in the long run & historically)!!! Same w/"Jerk Out". Prince gave it 2 Mazarati, and re-gifted it 2 The Time for Their "Pandemonium" Project. AGAIN- smart move in the long run (& historically)......

laurarichardson said:

David Z worked on Kiss with Prince and has said numerous times that Prince wrote that song. Sir Casey from Mazariti has tried to say he wrote it but David Z said Prince came along and completly rearranged the song and rewrote it. If you have ever heard the Mazaritii version you would know that it sucked ass. I have no idea why Brown Mark is saying he wrote it because I have never heard his named mentioned in conjuntion with this song before.

He needs to close his mouth about songs unless he had the copyright on something. He never was successfull as a songwriter, produceder, seesion player or solo act. I can give Wendy and Lisa some props because they actually had carreers and success without Prince. The rest of them need to have a seat. I mean Mark was advertising his services as a bass player on his Facebook page a few years ago. Sorry that is not the appearance of success.