bondno9 said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

bondno9 said:

I don't agree with threats ... but Kirky J is a big boy that needs to put on his Fruit of the Looms and deal with whatever role [he may have played] in the death of Prince.

I'm not aware of Kirk whining or complaining about anything.

No, he has Steve ( I am riding the purple gravey train) Parke to do that for him. After all how did Steve just so happen to have photos of Prince with no copyright control so he could publish them?

purplerabbithole said:

No, I don't think they all care if KJ is innocent...check out this reaction from an old engineer to Steve's defense of KJ... This is some fucked up thinking in my opinion. Its like people are so addicted to being in Prince's orbit that they would do anything he says even if it is bad for Prince and their own well being. Its like Prince is their drug and eventually they just want to kill the addiction. They seem to imply they are the victims of being pushed too hard, demanded too much out of...but if anything they are victims of their own ambition and infatuation with Prince. Enabling is still enabling. A job can be quit.

Plus, anyone can be a victim. Prince, at the very least, was a victim of addiction (addiction to music and drugs, it seems).

Purplestar88 said:

He is innocent until proven guilty. Mostly everybody in the camp is posing with him, so I asume they don't see him as suspect, criminal, or an enablar. If anything comes from the investigation and he is implicated, let's how the people who are posing with him will be reacting.

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Interesting what he says: " Kirk is the one person around Prince who always provided Prince with exactly the type of loyalty he craved." and "Kirk was the friend Prince wanted."

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i.e.: Kirk was the "enabler" Prince wanted.

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

You are missing the point because laws were broken and you seem to think the laws don't apply.

You are free to think what you like it does not change reality

Fine let the authorities deal with that. But they haven't said KJ broke the law and haven't arrested anyone. KJ hasn't been charged with a crime but everyone is treating him like a criminal. That's not the America I know.

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The truth of the matter is that none of us really know what was going on between Kirk and Prince. Why was Prince singing "Use me up and saying Kirk's name?" Was he trying to tell his fans something? Makes you wonder.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

You are missing the point because laws were broken and you seem to think the laws don't apply.

You are free to think what you like it does not change reality

Fine let the authorities deal with that. But they haven't said KJ broke the law and haven't arrested anyone. KJ hasn't been charged with a crime but everyone is treating him like a criminal. That's not the America I know.

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I'm not saying KJ is a criminal, and no, he hasn't been charged with any crime, but his behavior is shady, imo.

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I think Kirk's been enabling Prince for years. Probably in all sorts of ways. But I do wonder, after meeting him a few months ago (granted, I only talked to him for like 15 minutes, so definitely can't say I "know" much at all about him) I did get the impression that he genuinely cared about Prince. Prince also had a VERY strong personality as we all know. Not only would he fire you if you pissed him off...he'd act like you never existed. Done. Gone. So I sometimes wonder if Kirk didn't want that, so he was obviously a "YES man".. But I also wonder if Kirk wasn't doing this stuff for Prince, getting the pills, etc.....because Prince may have flat out said, "If you don't get them for me...I WILL get them somewhere on my own". Which who knows where that could be! Kirk probably had solid connections and influence with people and could get what Prince needed....safely...while being able to monitor him himself and make sure he was ok. I had a friend who was an alcoholic, and his wife was indeed an enabler. But when I asked her why, she said "If I don't get it (the alcohol) for him, he will get it somewhere..go roam around, steal it..however he has to get it....so at least if I'm buying it for him, I can watch him...maybe limit what he drinks...and make sure he's ok. If he goes off and does it himself...I don't know where he will end up or what will happen". Not an excuse, still wrong, and not an excuse for Kirk either. But that mentality is there for some people that are close with addicts and don't have a lot of options. That "Id rather take care of them and know what they're doing because either way.....they're gonna do it". Just some thoughts! I'm probably way off...I usually am! haha!

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: Fine let the authorities deal with that. But they haven't said KJ broke the law and haven't arrested anyone. KJ hasn't been charged with a crime but everyone is treating him like a criminal. That's not the America I know.

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I'm not saying KJ is a criminal, and no, he hasn't been charged with any crime, but his behavior is shady, imo.

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His behavior is shady and telling lies did not help. He brought some of this on himself.

Black market pills are not a reliable way to get them. But maybe if they could somehow prove that Prince attained those other pills another way, and that Kirk was trying to make sure P obtained more suitable pain pills from a doctor in a private way, then I wouldn't doubt Kirk's intentions. But I still don't understand the oxycodone on the 20th and Prince being left alone after an overdose. They went looking for him the next day so maybe it occurred to KJ and his assistant to worry when he didn't answer the phone.

ksl1974 said:

I think Kirk's been enabling Prince for years. Probably in all sorts of ways. But I do wonder, after meeting him a few months ago (granted, I only talked to him for like 15 minutes, so definitely can't say I "know" much at all about him) I did get the impression that he genuinely cared about Prince. Prince also had a VERY strong personality as we all know. Not only would he fire you if you pissed him off...he'd act like you never existed. Done. Gone. So I sometimes wonder if Kirk didn't want that, so he was obviously a "YES man".. But I also wonder if Kirk wasn't doing this stuff for Prince, getting the pills, etc.....because Prince may have flat out said, "If you don't get them for me...I WILL get them somewhere on my own". Which who knows where that could be! Kirk probably had solid connections and influence with people and could get what Prince needed....safely...while being able to monitor him himself and make sure he was ok. I had a friend who was an alcoholic, and his wife was indeed an enabler. But when I asked her why, she said "If I don't get it (the alcohol) for him, he will get it somewhere..go roam around, steal it..however he has to get it....so at least if I'm buying it for him, I can watch him...maybe limit what he drinks...and make sure he's ok. If he goes off and does it himself...I don't know where he will end up or what will happen". Not an excuse, still wrong, and not an excuse for Kirk either. But that mentality is there for some people that are close with addicts and don't have a lot of options. That "Id rather take care of them and know what they're doing because either way.....they're gonna do it". Just some thoughts! I'm probably way off...I usually am! haha!

zenarose said:

ROGI: KJ might have thought it out a little better. He should have remained quiet and let more time pass based on his actions from the beginning, silence. In the beginning if he had stated with his own mouth not an attorney how devastated he was and ask for time to privately heal and state that he would do everything in this power to assist in finding out what happened, then I believe the outcome would have been better for him. He didn't do that so he has to live with the repercussions. The death threats can be dealt with by Law Enforcement. He should not have to live in fear of his life.

he never really understood the hysteria of 'the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous' and especially those who like Uptown and play in Paisley Park

purplerabbithole said:

Black market pills are not a reliable way to get them. But maybe if they could somehow prove that Prince attained those other pills another way, and that Kirk was trying to make sure P obtained more suitable pain pills from a doctor in a private way, then I wouldn't doubt Kirk's intentions. But I still don't understand the oxycodone on the 20th and Prince being left alone after an overdose. They went looking for him the next day so maybe it occurred to KJ and his assistant to worry when he didn't answer the phone.

ksl1974 said:

I think Kirk's been enabling Prince for years. Probably in all sorts of ways. But I do wonder, after meeting him a few months ago (granted, I only talked to him for like 15 minutes, so definitely can't say I "know" much at all about him) I did get the impression that he genuinely cared about Prince. Prince also had a VERY strong personality as we all know. Not only would he fire you if you pissed him off...he'd act like you never existed. Done. Gone. So I sometimes wonder if Kirk didn't want that, so he was obviously a "YES man".. But I also wonder if Kirk wasn't doing this stuff for Prince, getting the pills, etc.....because Prince may have flat out said, "If you don't get them for me...I WILL get them somewhere on my own". Which who knows where that could be! Kirk probably had solid connections and influence with people and could get what Prince needed....safely...while being able to monitor him himself and make sure he was ok. I had a friend who was an alcoholic, and his wife was indeed an enabler. But when I asked her why, she said "If I don't get it (the alcohol) for him, he will get it somewhere..go roam around, steal it..however he has to get it....so at least if I'm buying it for him, I can watch him...maybe limit what he drinks...and make sure he's ok. If he goes off and does it himself...I don't know where he will end up or what will happen". Not an excuse, still wrong, and not an excuse for Kirk either. But that mentality is there for some people that are close with addicts and don't have a lot of options. That "Id rather take care of them and know what they're doing because either way.....they're gonna do it". Just some thoughts! I'm probably way off...I usually am! haha!

Right...black market pills are horrible. There's a huge increase in drugs from China lately. And they're notorious for using fentanyl as a "filler" for their pills. Cheaper for them. The one(s) that Prince had with the Fentanyl had to be off the street. Possibly? But then again, any scenerio is possible. Maybe he knew someone (or even someones family member, aquaintance, etc) that legitimately did have a perscription for it....and asked if he could just "have a couple". And that's how he got them. Most likely not the case....but there really are like 85 million scenerios with this. I lean towards someone...having a go-to person that scored him some pills off the street. Thinking they were what he normally had....but obviously not. As far as him being left alone on the 20th...I can see them leaving him by himself. Maybe not totally comfortable with the idea or liking it...but people can be convincing. And demanding(Prince). Maybe they, or someone DID say...hey can we just stick around tonight, just in case you need something? And Prince forbid it. Maybe even nicely. I think we've all done the "no, I'm fine, its ok...you can go!!"...line. Whether it be with illness, depression, etc. I think we've all told people we're "fine"....and we're not. I know I have! And with Prince...if he said NO.......no one was going to fight him. And he'd been find the previous few days it sounded like...so maybe they thought "well..he seems ok...we'll check on him first thing in the morning". Again.....so many scenerios could play into this. And as much as we speculate and say "well he/she did/didn't do this so this MUST be what/how things happened". We don't know. There could be someone other than Kirk involved in this that's playing a bigger part....that we don't even know yet!! I do think though, that Kirk was an enabler,..but meant to cause no harm. And as I said, was trying to control the situation so Prince DIDN'T go do something stupid. The way things were, Kirk was able to monitor him, the pills, etc for a loooong time. So something was drastically different those last couple days.

ksl1974 said:

I think Kirk's been enabling Prince for years. Probably in all sorts of ways. But I do wonder, after meeting him a few months ago (granted, I only talked to him for like 15 minutes, so definitely can't say I "know" much at all about him) I did get the impression that he genuinely cared about Prince. Prince also had a VERY strong personality as we all know. Not only would he fire you if you pissed him off...he'd act like you never existed. Done. Gone. So I sometimes wonder if Kirk didn't want that, so he was obviously a "YES man".. But I also wonder if Kirk wasn't doing this stuff for Prince, getting the pills, etc.....because Prince may have flat out said, "If you don't get them for me...I WILL get them somewhere on my own". Which who knows where that could be! Kirk probably had solid connections and influence with people and could get what Prince needed....safely...while being able to monitor him himself and make sure he was ok. I had a friend who was an alcoholic, and his wife was indeed an enabler. But when I asked her why, she said "If I don't get it (the alcohol) for him, he will get it somewhere..go roam around, steal it..however he has to get it....so at least if I'm buying it for him, I can watch him...maybe limit what he drinks...and make sure he's ok. If he goes off and does it himself...I don't know where he will end up or what will happen". Not an excuse, still wrong, and not an excuse for Kirk either. But that mentality is there for some people that are close with addicts and don't have a lot of options. That "Id rather take care of them and know what they're doing because either way.....they're gonna do it". Just some thoughts! I'm probably way off...I usually am! haha!

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Kirk is on my shady list because first he says he never knew Prince had any drug dependency, but it turns out that he did in fact know because he was picking up the Rx's for Prince. Therefore, I believe that Kirk was enabling Prince.

cloveringold85 said:

ksl1974 said:

I think Kirk's been enabling Prince for years. Probably in all sorts of ways. But I do wonder, after meeting him a few months ago (granted, I only talked to him for like 15 minutes, so definitely can't say I "know" much at all about him) I did get the impression that he genuinely cared about Prince. Prince also had a VERY strong personality as we all know. Not only would he fire you if you pissed him off...he'd act like you never existed. Done. Gone. So I sometimes wonder if Kirk didn't want that, so he was obviously a "YES man".. But I also wonder if Kirk wasn't doing this stuff for Prince, getting the pills, etc.....because Prince may have flat out said, "If you don't get them for me...I WILL get them somewhere on my own". Which who knows where that could be! Kirk probably had solid connections and influence with people and could get what Prince needed....safely...while being able to monitor him himself and make sure he was ok. I had a friend who was an alcoholic, and his wife was indeed an enabler. But when I asked her why, she said "If I don't get it (the alcohol) for him, he will get it somewhere..go roam around, steal it..however he has to get it....so at least if I'm buying it for him, I can watch him...maybe limit what he drinks...and make sure he's ok. If he goes off and does it himself...I don't know where he will end up or what will happen". Not an excuse, still wrong, and not an excuse for Kirk either. But that mentality is there for some people that are close with addicts and don't have a lot of options. That "Id rather take care of them and know what they're doing because either way.....they're gonna do it". Just some thoughts! I'm probably way off...I usually am! haha!

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Kirk is on my shady list because first he says he never knew Prince had any drug dependency, but it turns out that he did in fact know because he was picking up the Rx's for Prince. Therefore, I believe that Kirk was enabling Prince.

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That would seem to nail it. Kirk should be in a jail. An Electric Chair actually. If Prince's family wasn't so busy countin they come-up they would have cut ties on this monster long ago.

Thankfully, this country is still run on the principal of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

80tomato said:

the problem is all that the fans are getting is cryptic quotes and innuendo. Let us know that yes,he had a terminal illness or yes ,he had a drug problem and why did you expect him to die 2 years ago etc etc AND yes I do feel we are privvy to this information as the fans have supported Prince for many ,many years.Many have invested enormous amounts of time and money and have a need to know what happened

Here's my 2cents. With a high profile public figure such as P who suddenly and mysteriously dies, whoever was the last person to see them alive would naturally be expected to give answers. By no means am I saying he's guilty of something, however it seems he had the opportunity of being the one to lay the cards on the table out of sheer love for his friend/boss, and to help his hurting fans have a bit of closure. I cannot say how it feels to find a best friend and someone you care for laying cold on the floor, hope I never have to. It wasn't the time to go silent or create a cloud of mystery. P's death was handled like he was some sort of immortal being, or like King Tut. Just as famous and rich, but he was an ill man who needed to forget about the stage and the lights and the staff and the tours for the time being. I feel that everyone around him dropped the ball. I would've had to sacrifice losing my job if I saw with my own eyes and knew my friend was in trouble, just wasting away, unkempt looking, and with a faraway look in his eyes. I would've had a sit down talk with my friend to say I love you but I don't want to come back here until I see you get to the place you need to be for treatment. And I agree, P's fans were his family. He didn't have anyone else who stayed with him for the long haul and throughout those decades. We were his family and we've lost a family member. If they would go ahead and give us the real truth about why he died or what his illness was I guarantee the world will cheer him on even louder and they will purchase all of his music. A public P. is what we now want and not the man still shrouded in secrecy.

rogifan said:

I don't know, instead of acting like a bunch of ill-trained circus monkeys, why don't we let the lovely folks of Chanhassen's police department deal with Kirk Johnson? None of you is qualified to screw around with this, so leave it the hell alone. Death threats, indeed -- wtf does that even do except prove that Prince fans are crazy fools? Nothing, that's what.

And I'm pretty sure Prince's ass was partially culpable in this -- after all, what if he asked Kirk to get those pills for him? Hmm, but oops, that would be treating him like an adult who made decisions that were maybe not good for him.

[Edited 4/30/17 16:37pm]

SpookyNopetopus said:

I don't know, instead of acting like a bunch of ill-trained circus monkeys, why don't we let the lovely folks of Chanhassen's police department deal with Kirk Johnson? None of you is qualified to screw around with this, so leave it the hell alone. Death threats, indeed -- wtf does that even do except prove that Prince fans are crazy fools? Nothing, that's what.

And I'm pretty sure Prince's ass was partially culpable in this -- after all, what if he asked Kirk to get those pills for him? Hmm, but oops, that would be treating him like an adult who made decisions that were maybe not good for him.

[Edited 4/30/17 16:37pm]

I do not understand death threats because the family and associates are not treating Kirk like a outcast. Those are the people who should be asking the questions, to be upset, and make sure the police is doing their jobs. Prince's alleged culpabilty does not mean the person who got the pill should walk free. Just because Prince "wanted" the pills does not make it right. Prince paid the consequences from that pill and the person who got him the pill needs to have consequences too. Who knows what really happen.

Purplestar88 said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

I don't know, instead of acting like a bunch of ill-trained circus monkeys, why don't we let the lovely folks of Chanhassen's police department deal with Kirk Johnson? None of you is qualified to screw around with this, so leave it the hell alone. Death threats, indeed -- wtf does that even do except prove that Prince fans are crazy fools? Nothing, that's what.

And I'm pretty sure Prince's ass was partially culpable in this -- after all, what if he asked Kirk to get those pills for him? Hmm, but oops, that would be treating him like an adult who made decisions that were maybe not good for him.

[Edited 4/30/17 16:37pm]

I do not understand death threats because the family and associates are not treating Kirk like a outcast. Those are the people who should be asking the questions, to be upset, and make sure the police is doing their jobs. Prince's alleged culpabilty does not mean the person who got the pill should walk free. Just because Prince "wanted" the pills does not make it right. Prince paid the consequences from that pill and the person who got him the pill needs to have consequences too. Who knows what really happen.

No, it doesn't make it right. And if Kirk supplied something deadly, he should be punished for it -- I have no problem with that. I would love it if the appropriate people got the appropriate punishment for their roles in this. What I have a problem with is people basically interfering in the investigation by making the Chanhassen police have to pull manpower to deal with this circus they're creating. People need to get off the Scooby Doo Investigator bullshit and let those people handle this properly. Loving Prince does not give anyone the right to go out on a witch hunt like cracked-out circus monkeys, even if they loathe Kirk.

SpookyNopetopus said:

Purplestar88 said:

I do not understand death threats because the family and associates are not treating Kirk like a outcast. Those are the people who should be asking the questions, to be upset, and make sure the police is doing their jobs. Prince's alleged culpabilty does not mean the person who got the pill should walk free. Just because Prince "wanted" the pills does not make it right. Prince paid the consequences from that pill and the person who got him the pill needs to have consequences too. Who knows what really happen.

No, it doesn't make it right. And if Kirk supplied something deadly, he should be punished for it -- I have no problem with that. I would love it if the appropriate people got the appropriate punishment for their roles in this. What I have a problem with is people basically interfering in the investigation by making the Chanhassen police have to pull manpower to deal with this circus they're creating. People need to get off the Scooby Doo Investigator bullshit and let those people handle this properly. Loving Prince does not give anyone the right to go out on a witch hunt like cracked-out circus monkeys, even if they loathe Kirk.

Chanhassen police have one detective working the case and I doubt any manpower is being used to protect Kirk. I am not even so sure he is getting any death threats. He was out and about at the celebration so he could not have been to worried.

[Edited 5/1/17 11:24am]

It seems the inside circle, friends, former band members, etc...and even the family.... have no trouble with Kirk. So there's obviously a lot we don't know. There's wayyyyyyy more to this whole thing that whats been told to anyone. Gotta be. Cause if he was as "bad" as people on here and other boards make him out to be, why wouldn't anyone close to Prince, ...... sent him packing by now. I'm still going with my theory that he definitely did get Prince some pills........ but in no way thought he would die from them. I think he was trying to control the situation so Prince WOULDN'T go out and try to get them himself..

ksl1974 said:

It seems the inside circle, friends, former band members, etc...and even the family.... have no trouble with Kirk. So there's obviously a lot we don't know. There's wayyyyyyy more to this whole thing that whats been told to anyone. Gotta be. Cause if he was as "bad" as people on here and other boards make him out to be, why wouldn't anyone close to Prince, ...... sent him packing by now. I'm still going with my theory that he definitely did get Prince some pills........ but in no way thought he would die from them. I think he was trying to control the situation so Prince WOULDN'T go out and try to get them himself..

Well if he did that he should be going to jail. Especially if it was the stuff that killed him.

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

No, it doesn't make it right. And if Kirk supplied something deadly, he should be punished for it -- I have no problem with that. I would love it if the appropriate people got the appropriate punishment for their roles in this. What I have a problem with is people basically interfering in the investigation by making the Chanhassen police have to pull manpower to deal with this circus they're creating. People need to get off the Scooby Doo Investigator bullshit and let those people handle this properly. Loving Prince does not give anyone the right to go out on a witch hunt like cracked-out circus monkeys, even if they loathe Kirk.

Chanhassen police have one detective working the case and I doubt any manpower is being used to protect Kirk. I am not even so sure he is getting any death threats. He was out and about at the celebration so he could not have been to worried.

[Edited 5/1/17 11:24am]

Apparently you are not on facebook if you think there are no death threats.

laurarichardson said:

ksl1974 said:

It seems the inside circle, friends, former band members, etc...and even the family.... have no trouble with Kirk. So there's obviously a lot we don't know. There's wayyyyyyy more to this whole thing that whats been told to anyone. Gotta be. Cause if he was as "bad" as people on here and other boards make him out to be, why wouldn't anyone close to Prince, ...... sent him packing by now. I'm still going with my theory that he definitely did get Prince some pills........ but in no way thought he would die from them. I think he was trying to control the situation so Prince WOULDN'T go out and try to get them himself..

Well if he did that he should be going to jail. Especially if it was the stuff that killed him.

Like I said....I think there's more to this than any of us know. Because 1) He's obviously not in jail. So for whatever reason, and whatever the cops know, there isn't a reason to put him in jail or he'd be there. 2) Also like I said....if he was so horrible and "killed Prince" ......why is NO ONE close to Prince...not one person.... ranting and raving about Kirk? Wouldn't you think Prince's friends and family would be telling him to get the F-out if this all boiled down to just him? Piece it all together....forget the conspiracy theories and assumptions....take the facts of what was released by the family so far, and the police...(forget what the public says...) and it all just screams that there's more to this than what we know. Otherwise yea...Kirk would be in jail for sure. So there's something behind the scenes that no one has talked about yet.

Zannaloaf said:

laurarichardson said:

Chanhassen police have one detective working the case and I doubt any manpower is being used to protect Kirk. I am not even so sure he is getting any death threats. He was out and about at the celebration so he could not have been to worried.

[Edited 5/1/17 11:24am]

Apparently you are not on facebook if you think there are no death threats.

I actually belong to a few groups and I do not see death threats. I lot of people do not like him but I have not seen any death threats.

ksl1974 said:

laurarichardson said:

Well if he did that he should be going to jail. Especially if it was the stuff that killed him.

Like I said....I think there's more to this than any of us know. Because 1) He's obviously not in jail. So for whatever reason, and whatever the cops know, there isn't a reason to put him in jail or he'd be there. 2) Also like I said....if he was so horrible and "killed Prince" ......why is NO ONE close to Prince...not one person.... ranting and raving about Kirk? Wouldn't you think Prince's friends and family would be telling him to get the F-out if this all boiled down to just him? Piece it all together....forget the conspiracy theories and assumptions....take the facts of what was released by the family so far, and the police...(forget what the public says...) and it all just screams that there's more to this than what we know. Otherwise yea...Kirk would be in jail for sure. So there's something behind the scenes that no one has talked about yet.

The police have not interviewed him beyond the questions they asked doing their initial investigation. Kirk went out and got an attorney who specializes in enabler cases. So I am sure he is not going to volunteer any info to the police on the advice of his attorney.

At this point he has not been accused of anything but proved to have told lies to the cops. Making himself a suspect.

I would imagine that the family as well as associates received the info in the search warrant at the same time we all did. They either did not read it or do not see anything wrong with his behavior as they have already trusted people who should not have been trusted ( Londell) so their behavior toward Kirk is par for the course.

3 of the sibs are being represented by Londell who is being accused of ripping off the estate what does that tell you.

laurarichardson said:

ksl1974 said:

Like I said....I think there's more to this than any of us know. Because 1) He's obviously not in jail. So for whatever reason, and whatever the cops know, there isn't a reason to put him in jail or he'd be there. 2) Also like I said....if he was so horrible and "killed Prince" ......why is NO ONE close to Prince...not one person.... ranting and raving about Kirk? Wouldn't you think Prince's friends and family would be telling him to get the F-out if this all boiled down to just him? Piece it all together....forget the conspiracy theories and assumptions....take the facts of what was released by the family so far, and the police...(forget what the public says...) and it all just screams that there's more to this than what we know. Otherwise yea...Kirk would be in jail for sure. So there's something behind the scenes that no one has talked about yet.

The police have not interviewed him beyond the questions they asked doing their initial investigation. Kirk went out and got an attorney who specializes in enabler cases. So I am sure he is not going to volunteer any info to the police on the advice of his attorney.

At this point he has not been accused of anything but proved to have told lies to the cops. Making himself a suspect.

I would imagine that the family as well as associates received the info in the search warrant at the same time we all did. They either did not read it or do not see anything wrong with his behavior as they have already trusted people who should not have been trusted ( Londell) so their behavior toward Kirk is par for the course.

3 of the sibs are being represented by Londell who is being accused of ripping off the estate what does that tell you.

That Londell guy is a piece of work. That much I will say. I see his stuff on Twitter and wanna punch my phone.

laurarichardson said: