OldFriends4Sale said:

rogifan said:

Shelby posted this on her Instagram account. I wish Elisa was there. It's like someone is missing. Even Apples, Jill and Susan found it within themselves to make an appearance - at the dance until dawn party Omarr and Tyka hosted. [Edited 4/23/17 14:03pm]

Susan who? Susannah Melvoin / Susan Moonsie?

OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit said:

She's exactly on point! "[Prince] always said, ‘Do your own thing,’ and I am going to be doing my thing. This thing at Paisley Park is not what Prince was about. Ticket prices are like $500, and people who are really fans are expected to pay that to hear some stories. I’d understand if this money was going to a charity he believed in, but it’s just a lot of people hitting while the iron is hot. He’s already said it, ‘Old Friends 4 Sale': get ‘em while the gettin’ is hot, but you better watch out, they’ll kiss you until they get what you got. How about that? He wouldn’t like this, I know it.”

The article does say she points to Mayte as striking while the iron is hot. But you know what - it's Mayte's story. She as there. She married ol' boy and had two kids by him. Mayte isn't yet another fan who dug through The Vault, put together some dates and a new way of saying "He recorded spiritual songs on Sunday", while throwing in a new half-assed anecdote from a member of The Revolution or NPG.

Elisa's right about the rest. There's no way Prince would 1) charge $500 or $999 for this stupid celebration, and 2) do it on a date of death. Even though he didn't really believe in birthday, he did understand that fans would be drawn to the significance of the event around June (plus it's just nicer weather HA).

While I understand the estate & PP has to create a cash flow and actually support that (who wants Prince's legacy, belongings and assets just sitting around collecting dust while debtors pick through it like a sample plate of frozen cherries at Cosco?), don't fucking pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. All of us fans can see bullshit & real moneygrabbing when it's in front of us (like the other plethora of books that have come out in the last year - some days after he died). Mayte writing a book is not money grabbing. It's her right to make a living and tell her story. The book is getting incredible reviews from fans. Every time I see someone post about it, they love it. Elisa will write a book soon enough, or an essay in a paper or something, and get a check for it. It's only a matter of time. But maybe right now, money don't matter 2 nite.

The thing is there is no cash flow going through Paisley, do we want it open or closed down and sold off? Because that is what will eventually happen. I get her feelings, there are mixed feelings all over the place, but it seems to be a huge double standard, if we want to be super technical PRINCE would not have wanted any form of a tribute knowing how he feels on all that stuff. So that would go for the BET one and all the others, I even doubt he'd want tours of his home. BUT we have to realize he is not here and they have to keep the business going, its that simple like it or not ELISA this is reality. I have no issues with people going out on tour, we cant cherry pick what we like and dont like because its a huge contradiction. Call Mayte money hungry and then every single band or associate that Prince had suddenly is touring and has an album and say nothing is a huge double standard. I get Elisa's points but seriously if it all is handled right then its all good.

lastdecember said:

lastdecember said:

TrivialPursuit said:

She's exactly on point! "[Prince] always said, ‘Do your own thing,’ and I am going to be doing my thing. This thing at Paisley Park is not what Prince was about. Ticket prices are like $500, and people who are really fans are expected to pay that to hear some stories. I’d understand if this money was going to a charity he believed in, but it’s just a lot of people hitting while the iron is hot. He’s already said it, ‘Old Friends 4 Sale': get ‘em while the gettin’ is hot, but you better watch out, they’ll kiss you until they get what you got. How about that? He wouldn’t like this, I know it.”

The article does say she points to Mayte as striking while the iron is hot. But you know what - it's Mayte's story. She as there. She married ol' boy and had two kids by him. Mayte isn't yet another fan who dug through The Vault, put together some dates and a new way of saying "He recorded spiritual songs on Sunday", while throwing in a new half-assed anecdote from a member of The Revolution or NPG.

Elisa's right about the rest. There's no way Prince would 1) charge $500 or $999 for this stupid celebration, and 2) do it on a date of death. Even though he didn't really believe in birthday, he did understand that fans would be drawn to the significance of the event around June (plus it's just nicer weather HA).

While I understand the estate & PP has to create a cash flow and actually support that (who wants Prince's legacy, belongings and assets just sitting around collecting dust while debtors pick through it like a sample plate of frozen cherries at Cosco?), don't fucking pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. All of us fans can see bullshit & real moneygrabbing when it's in front of us (like the other plethora of books that have come out in the last year - some days after he died). Mayte writing a book is not money grabbing. It's her right to make a living and tell her story. The book is getting incredible reviews from fans. Every time I see someone post about it, they love it. Elisa will write a book soon enough, or an essay in a paper or something, and get a check for it. It's only a matter of time. But maybe right now, money don't matter 2 nite.

The thing is there is no cash flow going through Paisley, do we want it open or closed down and sold off? Because that is what will eventually happen. I get her feelings, there are mixed feelings all over the place, but it seems to be a huge double standard, if we want to be super technical PRINCE would not have wanted any form of a tribute knowing how he feels on all that stuff. So that would go for the BET one and all the others, I even doubt he'd want tours of his home. BUT we have to realize he is not here and they have to keep the business going, its that simple like it or not ELISA this is reality. I have no issues with people going out on tour, we cant cherry pick what we like and dont like because its a huge contradiction. Call Mayte money hungry and then every single band or associate that Prince had suddenly is touring and has an album and say nothing is a huge double standard. I get Elisa's points but seriously if it all is handled right then its all good.

Well that is not really true that he would not go for any form of tribute. The Revolution did a show in 2012 with 100% support by Prince, there was the NYC Carnegie Hall tribute in 2013, 1/2 the band was back at First Avenue in 2014(w Andre).

If he didn't want any form of tribute there would not have been the BET 2010 tribute either.

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But overall I agree with everything you say. But I too feel keeping the music alive is very different from writing a book, which Prince would be more apt to be against, maybe. Sheila E wrote a book too while Prince was alive. More revealing about her life outside of Prince, but she had a right to do that because beginning to end it was her life.

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Did Dez Dickerson officially release his book before Prince died?

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said:

https://www.reviewjournal...ppearance/

Man, people are divided on how to best approach the hoopla surrounding Prince's death. Its sad. I don't know what to think because in a way, she is promoting herself through Prince. However, I must say that I am not sure what her issue is with Shelby's album. I imagine she is not fond of Andy's either (or maybe she's disappointed in Shelby because of her support of Mayte). I don't mind the attention Prince's proteges albums are getting. They still have to work and if work comes their way ebcause of Prince's death, I am not sure Prince would have a problem with that. After all, he'd be promoting their work if he were alive. As for tell-all books or memoirs and over-priced celebrations, I see her point.

[Edited 4/15/17 20:45pm]

Hmm...not sure how I feel about her comments. Heck in an interview with The Current radio station Liv Warfield said hoped to get Elisa to perform with her and Shelby some time. Prince knew Shelby was working on an album and according to Shelby she even played some of the tracks for him and he gave her feedback. I hope she's not suggesting Shelby is trying to cash in on Prince's death with her new album. I think her album would have come out if Prince was still alive. As far as the ticket prices for the Celebration event, yes they're expensive but we don't know anything about Prince's finances, what the estate owes in taxes etc. I don't think the Estate is intentionally gouging people. The GA track works out to $125/day. Floor tickets for Def Leppard at Excel Energy Center on 4/21 are going for over $400. When I was in California in March I spent over $100 on a ticket to a tennis match. I don't think the price is that unreasonable.

Actually, we know everything about Prince's finances. We know the worth of the estate. And we know they have an upcoming $100,000,000 tax bill...which could have been partially avoided had Prince left a will.

Entertainers entertain.

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

kmama07 said:

rogifan said:

New FB post from Elisa clarifying her comments on Shelby's album. Apparently Shelby reached out. Sounds like her issue was the timing of the release which is totally fair.

I'm so over the social media posts by everyone. Cryptic and not cryptic. Couldn't she just pick up a damn phone and call Shelby? No need for EVERYTHING to be a public display. Just my opinion.

Right, if she would have just done that phone 2 phone/face 2 face with Shelby none of this would have happened. She started a crack in a work relationship that might not ever mend.

But she also need to put this up on social media, to apologize, because she put her ass out originally on social media.

Mumio said: