bashraka said:

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

PennyPurple said:

LBrent said:

But see, here's what some folks seem to be missing at this point of dead horses throttling...

Mayte wrote the book. Why not express those pressing concerns to Mayte?

She's a performer/writer. Performer/writers have agents, possibly listed in the back of her book.

Agents are in contact with their performer/writer/clients and a letter sent to a performer/writer/client's agent has a far better chance of getting your concerns to the party who can address your woes questions than does engaging in a back and forth with complete strangers on a message forum on the Internet.

You ken?

Sheesh

You know her friend Dave (meltedman) is here on the org. I might reach out to him to see if Mayte can answer some of these questions. It wouldn't hurt to try.

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On the book club that we are getting ready to start, the authors Alex Hahn and Laura Tiebert are going to participate in.

That would be great if Mayte agreed to that. She seems very open and willing to share, so who knows? There sure are many of us on here that empathize with her and understand her importance in Prince's life.

bashraka said:

NotACleverName said:

It has been said before.....Mayte DID NOT insinuate anything. She shared some details of her life and some decided to twist it into something disgusting. The words I bolded are yours. And, apparently Mayte has all the proof she needs. Not her responsibility to prove anything to us. Since we're using Prince quotes to drive the point home, here's a couple for you. Courtesy of the man, himself: As human beings we suffer from an innate tendency to jump to conclusions; to judge people too quickly and to pronounce them failures or heroes without due consideration of the actual facts and ideals of the period.” – Prince I don’t really care so much what people say about me because it usually is a reflection of who they are. For example, if people wish I would sound like I used to sound, then it says more about them than it does me.” – Prince

LBrent said:

NotACleverName said:

It has been said before.....Mayte DID NOT insinuate anything. She shared some details of her life and some decided to twist it into something disgusting. The words I bolded are yours. And, apparently Mayte has all the proof she needs. Not her responsibility to prove anything to us. Since we're using Prince quotes to drive the point home, here's a couple for you. Courtesy of the man, himself: As human beings we suffer from an innate tendency to jump to conclusions; to judge people too quickly and to pronounce them failures or heroes without due consideration of the actual facts and ideals of the period.” – Prince I don’t really care so much what people say about me because it usually is a reflection of who they are. For example, if people wish I would sound like I used to sound, then it says more about them than it does me.” – Prince

Anyone who comes to the book club tread and suggests the book implies P was a pedophile either a) is not being truthful and they really DID NOT read the book or b) have a serious reading comprehension problem. Just Saying… IMHO.

DD55 said:

LBrent said:

Anyone who comes to the book club tread and suggests the book implies P was a pedophile either a) is not being truthful and they really DID NOT read the book or b) have a serious reading comprehension problem. Just Saying… IMHO.

Agree.

MMJas said:

bashraka said:

Purplestar88 said:

Someone else use the word "shit storm". The person feels she did not want to create a "shit storm" for the person who told her the information. My answer is, did she cared about the "shit storm" she may be createing for others? The answer is no. She has no problem naming names and pointing fingers but all of a sudden she on some high moral ground and can't give the name of the person telling her these things. Your right, that is her of life and her life can be questioned just like anybody else. People question Prince life all the time. Why should she be held to a different standard. She tells different stories and is geting a pass for it but if Prince or another associate did that they would be riped apart. I have seen it for myself. No one is giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they were sad and that's why they are saying different stories. I stand by my statements unitl I know other wise. You can not dictate how I feel about this topic.

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Exactly! People that absolutely stan for Mayte want to make standards that apply to every public figure that says things that are either inconsistent or make claims about the deceased that cannot be substantiated not apply to Mayte. What kills me is that she truly believes if Prince was alive, he would support her book. After she wrote things in her book that insinuate that he was a pedophile, drug addict and cold hearted man that burn their baby's ashes without proof. Mayte, Judith Hill and Manuela are one in the same-attention seeking vultures feasting on Prince post mortem. "You can tell if a friendship is beneficial if they are respectful of you when you're not around".-Prince.

In no way does she insinuate that he was a pedophile, ever. She and Prince knew each other for 3 YEARS before they had sex. She was 19 when their relationship became sexual.

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She never insinuates that he was a drug addict, either. She clearly states that she never saw him take anything regularly other than vitamin B12 injections. When writing the book, she is obviously writing in hindsight with the knowledge that at the end of his life, Prince was using painkillers and died from an apparent accidental overdose of fentanyl. And with this hindsight knowledge, she suggests that there may have been more to the stomach pumping incident and a few other incidents than just a migrane or drinking aspirin with wine. In other words, she admits that when the incidents occurred, she was young and naive; but now, in her 40s, and knowing that Prince died from an apparent accidentla overdose, she looks at the handful of incidents differently. She is very clear that was not using substances regularly while they were together, nothing that would have caused her to be alarmed enough to insist upon him receiving treatment.

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Seriously, the most damning information about Prince using drugs come from the police reports and search warrants that Carver County released on April 17th. Prince was clearly abusing pain killers. And if he was addicted to pain killers, so? Addiction is a DISEASE! It is a medical problem that requires treatment. It is not a character flaw. Prince was human, he had flaws, he wasn't perfect, we all know this. Guess what, he did a damn good job of hiding painkiller abuse/addiction because how many times can people recall him being publicly intoxicated...none. He did such a good job of hiding his issues with painkillers that he didn't get the treatment he needed. Legendary musicians like Marvin Gaye, Whitney Houston, and Jimi Hendrix all received far more publicity for their substance abuse issues and their musical legacies are doing just fine.

DD55 said:

LBrent said:

Anyone who comes to the book club tread and suggests the book implies P was a pedophile either a) is not being truthful and they really DID NOT read the book or b) have a serious reading comprehension problem. Just Saying… IMHO.

I totally agree

I am interested what people think of the photos that Mayte included in the book. I don't think we have discussed the photos much.

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I'm a bit confused about the pictures of the CD artowrk that made for Mayte, dated February 14th, 1998. The caption says it was their first anniversary, but given that they were married on February 14, 1996, it appears that the caption is erroneous.

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February 14, 1998 would have been after the miscarriage, but before they finished making the video for "The One." He writes "'Til no thing do us part... love u Mayte." I'm trying to make sense of how this message of his fits into the timeline of events of her book and their relationship.

206Michelle said:

I am interested what people think of the photos that Mayte included in the book. I don't think we have discussed the photos much.

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I'm a bit confused about the pictures of the CD artowrk that made for Mayte, dated February 14th, 1998. The caption says it was their first anniversary, but given that they were married on February 14, 1996, it appears that the caption is erroneous.

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February 14, 1998 would have been after the miscarriage, but before they finished making the video for "The One." He writes "'Til no thing do us part... love u Mayte." I'm trying to make sense of how this message of his fits into the timeline of events of her book and their relationship.

206Michelle said:

I am interested what people think of the photos that Mayte included in the book. I don't think we have discussed the photos much.

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I'm a bit confused about the pictures of the CD artowrk that made for Mayte, dated February 14th, 1998. The caption says it was their first anniversary, but given that they were married on February 14, 1996, it appears that the caption is erroneous.

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February 14, 1998 would have been after the miscarriage, but before they finished making the video for "The One." He writes "'Til no thing do us part... love u Mayte." I'm trying to make sense of how this message of his fits into the timeline of events of her book and their relationship.

Yes, that really baffled me too. It would be great if someone could shed some light on this.

DD55 said:

206Michelle said:

I am interested what people think of the photos that Mayte included in the book. I don't think we have discussed the photos much.

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I'm a bit confused about the pictures of the CD artowrk that made for Mayte, dated February 14th, 1998. The caption says it was their first anniversary, but given that they were married on February 14, 1996, it appears that the caption is erroneous.

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February 14, 1998 would have been after the miscarriage, but before they finished making the video for "The One." He writes "'Til no thing do us part... love u Mayte." I'm trying to make sense of how this message of his fits into the timeline of events of her book and their relationship.

Sorry Michelle, I think may of us (at least me) were wrung out after reading the book. Since I had the electronic version on iBooks, i didn’t really focus too much on the pictures.

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Here goes. I was not really interested in her childhood pictures, nor was i interested in the the pictures with her and Prince (all pretty much photo shoots and staged).

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What did enjoy was the picture of her pregnant (glad she still had that picture) and the one with her father before the wedding. (But why were they ‘relieved’ when he got there? hummm?)

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And of course I got a kick out of P with the puppy next to a giant bathtub! Take a bath anyone!?

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As for the artwork for the cd, I glanced. I wonder if she had another image that somehow was lost in the mix. There are three images, a cd would need two (front and back), so I wondered if there was a cd for the 1st and 2nd anniversary and one image got lost in the mix? But since the colors and pencil works are so similar… make me question it. IDK

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Yes your question is valid - first or second anniversary? With all things purple, who knows. I think we would have to ask her and see if she responds. Or maybe just one of those final editing details that got missed (it happens, you see books with typos all the time). Perhaps someone else has an answer.

Yeah, I think the caption seems to be an obvious mistake - kind of interesting in itself with regard to this whole thing about Mayte's inconsistency / trustworthiness...and people making errors about their own lives...which we do, all the time...anyway, that one seems like a clanger it is strange an editor didn't catch....I'm kind of interested where it fits in the timeline as well...after the miscarriage and before 'the handshake'?

jayseajay said:

DD55 said:

Sorry Michelle, I think may of us (at least me) were wrung out after reading the book. Since I had the electronic version on iBooks, i didn’t really focus too much on the pictures.

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Here goes. I was not really interested in her childhood pictures, nor was i interested in the the pictures with her and Prince (all pretty much photo shoots and staged).

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What did enjoy was the picture of her pregnant (glad she still had that picture) and the one with her father before the wedding. (But why were they ‘relieved’ when he got there? hummm?)

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And of course I got a kick out of P with the puppy next to a giant bathtub! Take a bath anyone!?

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As for the artwork for the cd, I glanced. I wonder if she had another image that somehow was lost in the mix. There are three images, a cd would need two (front and back), so I wondered if there was a cd for the 1st and 2nd anniversary and one image got lost in the mix? But since the colors and pencil works are so similar… make me question it. IDK

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Yes your question is valid - first or second anniversary? With all things purple, who knows. I think we would have to ask her and see if she responds. Or maybe just one of those final editing details that got missed (it happens, you see books with typos all the time). Perhaps someone else has an answer.

Yeah, I think the caption seems to be an obvious mistake - kind of interesting in itself with regard to this whole thing about Mayte's inconsistency / trustworthiness...and people making errors about their own lives...which we do, all the time...anyway, that one seems like a clanger it is strange an editor didn't catch....I'm kind of interested where it fits in the timeline as well...after the miscarriage and before 'the handshake'?

Its clear that P was very In LOVE...of all the things he could have gifted her,all the technology of that time available to him, he hand drew a CD Cover....so sweet really...

I just read an old article today from In Style magazine I believe done in 1999. He was interviewed in NYC and Mayte was with him and was referred to as his partner as they were no longer married at this time. But he was quoted in the article saying again how she was his soulmate and talking about their home in Spain and how it was their dream home blah blah blah. I just don't get him. He was already by this time leading a double life, talking out of both sides of his mouth. It's easy to see how confusing this must have been for Mayte. Just about the time you accept your marriage is over he's acting like he's still all about you. So you go back to believing him, trusting him. Until you get the call he is marrying another woman. WHAAAAA?!?! In any case she finally got the message. Its a bit easier for me to understand now why she stayed in Spain when she was getting such mixed messages. He made her believe it was their love nest. I've no doubt he could be very persuasive. This thing with him and Mani is the one and only thing that has ever made me see him in a poor light. And that is not the fault of Mayte or this book. This was all common knowledge already. But I also realize that he was broken in some ways and that made him capable of doing what he did. Not to mention the fact that he had people close to him (Mani and LG) actually encouraging this wrong thinking and behavior which gave him permission or the belief what he was doing somehow was ok. Smh I do blame them as much as I blame him for the things he did in regards to his marriage to Mayte.

sonshine said:

206Michelle said:

206Michelle said:

bashraka said:

Exactly! People that absolutely stan for Mayte want to make standards that apply to every public figure that says things that are either inconsistent or make claims about the deceased that cannot be substantiated not apply to Mayte. What kills me is that she truly believes if Prince was alive, he would support her book. After she wrote things in her book that insinuate that he was a pedophile, drug addict and cold hearted man that burn their baby's ashes without proof. Mayte, Judith Hill and Manuela are one in the same-attention seeking vultures feasting on Prince post mortem. "You can tell if a friendship is beneficial if they are respectful of you when you're not around".-Prince.

In no way does she insinuate that he was a pedophile, ever. She and Prince knew each other for 3 YEARS before they had sex. She was 19 when their relationship became sexual.

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She never insinuates that he was a drug addict, either. She clearly states that she never saw him take anything regularly other than vitamin B12 injections. When writing the book, she is obviously writing in hindsight with the knowledge that at the end of his life, Prince was using painkillers and died from an apparent accidental overdose of fentanyl. And with this hindsight knowledge, she suggests that there may have been more to the stomach pumping incident and a few other incidents than just a migrane or drinking aspirin with wine. In other words, she admits that when the incidents occurred, she was young and naive; but now, in her 40s, and knowing that Prince died from an apparent accidentla overdose, she looks at the handful of incidents differently. She is very clear that was not using substances regularly while they were together, nothing that would have caused her to be alarmed enough to insist upon him receiving treatment.

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Seriously, the most damning information about Prince using drugs come from the police reports and search warrants that Carver County released on April 17th. Prince was clearly abusing pain killers. And if he was addicted to pain killers, so? Addiction is a DISEASE! It is a medical problem that requires treatment. It is not a character flaw. Prince was human, he had flaws, he wasn't perfect, we all know this. Guess what, he did a damn good job of hiding painkiller abuse/addiction because how many times can people recall him being publicly intoxicated...none. He did such a good job of hiding his issues with painkillers that he didn't get the treatment he needed. Legendary musicians like Marvin Gaye, Whitney Houston, and Jimi Hendrix all received far more publicity for their substance abuse issues and their musical legacies are doing just fine.

2noelle said:

206Michelle said:

In no way does she insinuate that he was a pedophile, ever. She and Prince knew each other for 3 YEARS before they had sex. She was 19 when their relationship became sexual.

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She never insinuates that he was a drug addict, either. She clearly states that she never saw him take anything regularly other than vitamin B12 injections. When writing the book, she is obviously writing in hindsight with the knowledge that at the end of his life, Prince was using painkillers and died from an apparent accidental overdose of fentanyl. And with this hindsight knowledge, she suggests that there may have been more to the stomach pumping incident and a few other incidents than just a migrane or drinking aspirin with wine. In other words, she admits that when the incidents occurred, she was young and naive; but now, in her 40s, and knowing that Prince died from an apparent accidentla overdose, she looks at the handful of incidents differently. She is very clear that was not using substances regularly while they were together, nothing that would have caused her to be alarmed enough to insist upon him receiving treatment.

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Seriously, the most damning information about Prince using drugs come from the police reports and search warrants that Carver County released on April 17th. Prince was clearly abusing pain killers. And if he was addicted to pain killers, so? Addiction is a DISEASE! It is a medical problem that requires treatment. It is not a character flaw. Prince was human, he had flaws, he wasn't perfect, we all know this. Guess what, he did a damn good job of hiding painkiller abuse/addiction because how many times can people recall him being publicly intoxicated...none. He did such a good job of hiding his issues with painkillers that he didn't get the treatment he needed. Legendary musicians like Marvin Gaye, Whitney Houston, and Jimi Hendrix all received far more publicity for their substance abuse issues and their musical legacies are doing just fine.

Beautifully stated!

jayseajay said:

DD55 said:

Sorry Michelle, I think may of us (at least me) were wrung out after reading the book. Since I had the electronic version on iBooks, i didn’t really focus too much on the pictures.

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Here goes. I was not really interested in her childhood pictures, nor was i interested in the the pictures with her and Prince (all pretty much photo shoots and staged).

.

What did enjoy was the picture of her pregnant (glad she still had that picture) and the one with her father before the wedding. (But why were they ‘relieved’ when he got there? hummm?)

.

And of course I got a kick out of P with the puppy next to a giant bathtub! Take a bath anyone!?

.

As for the artwork for the cd, I glanced. I wonder if she had another image that somehow was lost in the mix. There are three images, a cd would need two (front and back), so I wondered if there was a cd for the 1st and 2nd anniversary and one image got lost in the mix? But since the colors and pencil works are so similar… make me question it. IDK

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Yes your question is valid - first or second anniversary? With all things purple, who knows. I think we would have to ask her and see if she responds. Or maybe just one of those final editing details that got missed (it happens, you see books with typos all the time). Perhaps someone else has an answer.

Yeah, I think the caption seems to be an obvious mistake - kind of interesting in itself with regard to this whole thing about Mayte's inconsistency / trustworthiness...and people making errors about their own lives...which we do, all the time...anyway, that one seems like a clanger it is strange an editor didn't catch....I'm kind of interested where it fits in the timeline as well...after the miscarriage and before 'the handshake'?

[Edited 4/26/17 9:26am]

[Edited 4/26/17 9:29am]

2noelle said:

I think Mayte is mixing up the timeline of their pregnancy vs. their marriage. I think she was preggo when they got married. That's just me.

Misslink88 said:

Leopard52 said:

I just watched a video from Wall Strret Journal on FB where she said Prince never talked about children until the night they got married! I read the book and in it she says he started talking about babies as soon as she said she would marry him on the phone. Kinda strange ... which is correct? Only she knows!!

You and I read the same book. She also wrote they never went on dates and then in another interview said they went to the movies all the time. Go figure.

I've thought about this quite a bit...

I don't think Mayte should go anywhere and "defend" her story. She was there.

Whatever she remembers, she remembers, and whatever she doesn't remember, she doesn't remember. I think the book speaks for itself and doesn't need any further claryfication on her part.

Discerning and undiscerning readers will come to their own finite conclusions. So be it.

I think any attempts by her to "defend" herself from her critics will only add fuel to any fire and bring more criticism in the long run.

At the end of the day, people will believe whatever they want anyway for better or worse. Whatever.

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I couldn't agree more. Mani and LG teamed up big time and got in Prince's head. They both had their own gains involved, which P couldn't see at the time. I heard he left the religion towards the end.

I think Mayte needed to step up and fight for him. I would have been wherever he was. If he wasn't in Spain, I wouldn't be in Spain. She also could have opened her mind up and gone to the JW meetings, for no other reason than to see what it is that was taking up so much of his attention. That would show that you're a supportive wife. Boycotting it altogether backs a man into a corner and made it easier for LG/Mani.

sonshine said:

I just read an old article today from In Style magazine I believe done in 1999. He was interviewed in NYC and Mayte was with him and was referred to as his partner as they were no longer married at this time. But he was quoted in the article saying again how she was his soulmate and talking about their home in Spain and how it was their dream home blah blah blah. I just don't get him. He was already by this time leading a double life, talking out of both sides of his mouth. It's easy to see how confusing this must have been for Mayte. Just about the time you accept your marriage is over he's acting like he's still all about you. So you go back to believing him, trusting him. Until you get the call he is marrying another woman. WHAAAAA?!?! In any case she finally got the message. Its a bit easier for me to understand now why she stayed in Spain when she was getting such mixed messages. He made her believe it was their love nest. I've no doubt he could be very persuasive. This thing with him and Mani is the one and only thing that has ever made me see him in a poor light. And that is not the fault of Mayte or this book. This was all common knowledge already. But I also realize that he was broken in some ways and that made him capable of doing what he did. Not to mention the fact that he had people close to him (Mani and LG) actually encouraging this wrong thinking and behavior which gave him permission or the belief what he was doing somehow was ok. Smh I do blame them as much as I blame him for the things he did in regards to his marriage to Mayte.

laurarichardson said:

JudasLChrist said:

laurarichardson said:

I point out facts. Now she is going on about the Vault which she has not seen in 20 years. She is trying to insert herself in the events this weekend Sad

The fact of the matter is that there is subset of Prince so-called-fans who are hypercritical and cruel when it comes to the women in Prince's life, whether that be Wendy and Lisa, or his wives, or other women he dated and/or worked with. Incidentally, the majority of this hypercritical, suspicious hoarde are women them selves. Go figure. One wishes the org had some system of up-votes and down votes so that we could put the kaboosh on this incessant negative bullshit once and for all. [Edited 4/26/17 18:17pm]

This is not about a woman issue. No one is above criticism. Were you complaining when the negativity was focus on Prince? None and I mean none of the women have endured the criticism that Prince have gotten and that's the bottom line.

Purplestar88 said:

JudasLChrist said:

laurarichardson said: The fact of the matter is that there is subset of Prince so-called-fans who are hypercritical and cruel when it comes to the women in Prince's life, whether that be Wendy and Lisa, or his wives, or other women he dated and/or worked with. Incidentally, the majority of this hypercritical, suspicious hoarde are women them selves. Go figure. One wishes the org had some system of up-votes and down votes so that we could put the kaboosh on this incessant negative bullshit once and for all. [Edited 4/26/17 18:17pm]

This is not about a woman issue. No one is above criticism. Were you complaining when the negativity was focus on Prince? None and I mean none of the women have endured the criticism that Prince have gotten and that's the bottom line.

I think it's very much about things like misogyny, homophobia, plain jealousy, etc... Beacuse there isn't any legitimate reason to attack the women in his life the way people do. There just isn't. People love Prince. The idea that others helped him or had a musical conversation with him isn't criticism.

JudasLChrist said:

Purplestar88 said:

This is not about a woman issue. No one is above criticism. Were you complaining when the negativity was focus on Prince? None and I mean none of the women have endured the criticism that Prince have gotten and that's the bottom line.

I think it's very much about things like misogyny, homophobia, plain jealousy, etc... Beacuse there isn't any legitimate reason to attack the women in his life the way people do. There just isn't. People love Prince. The idea that others helped him or had a musical conversation with him isn't criticism.

Dole pineapple juice is on sale this week. 2 cans for $5.

Rumour has it dat it makes dat schtuff tastes betta.*

Just sayin

* If you're lost, read back a coupla pages and you'll get it.