tmo1965 said:

LBrent said:

Aw, I'd never heard her story.

I think it's very endearing to think of P innocently cuddling booty butt nekkid, but not having sex.

Endearing yes, until you consider that maybe he had gotten laid earlier that day and was tapped out when he was with Devin and Anna.

Poor P.

So many folks underestimate his ability to exercize sexual self control...except me.

206Michelle said:

Lovejunky said:

I always wondered who is that chick with the Unsexy name

thats got Prince all Insatiable and stuff

Lovejunky, I saw the connection too with the name Martha George and "Insatiable." I am wondering if that was a coincidence that she received the pseudonym Martha George and the song "Insatiable" mentions Martha. I mean, if "Insatiable" is about Mayte, who was under age 18 at the time he wrote "Insatiable," then perhaps "Insatiable" would be an example of an "occasional impure thought" that "crossed his mind" (p. 86)? Who knows? The man was an enigma. All I can say, is "Insatiable" is a top 10 Prince song for me and he is absolutely scrumptious in that video.

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This was my thought also. And it could mean a lot of things, imo....
Anyway, he changed it to "Baby" in later years.

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Asenath0607 said:

MMJas said:

BillieBalloon said:

MMJas said:

This was my thought also. And it could mean a lot of things, imo....
Anyway, he changed it to "Baby" in later years.

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Robyn used to post at the org and she stated that Prince had told her that Insatiable was about her. The song was also linked to Martika at one point.

Yes..I totally get that Robyn might have been Insatiable

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Anymore I think that Prince told all of his girls that songs were about them, and they were all the same songs. I think that's why each one thinks that song is about her and not about the others.

Lovejunky said:

206Michelle said:

LBrent, I totally agree with you. There is no way on God's green earth that Prince was celibate for 3 years during the early 90s. When I refer to the book, they met in July 1990 and she lost her virginity to him in February 1993, so it was more like 2.5 years. During these 2.5 years, he was getting it on with some woman/women, but she wasn't Mayte.

Im not arguing that he didnt have SEX for 3 years

but he had enough self restraint to not Jump Mayte until she was a little more mature

One could say he was waiting for her to Ripen...

I wouldn't say it was until she was more mature, but more likely until she wasn't illegal. He's done many songs around that theme and never had an "incident". When Robin was posting, it seemed he was hot and heavy into a lot of things during that time period ('89 to 93'??).

Purplestar88 said:

JudasLChrist said:

I haven't called anyone names. I have called people out for being hypercritical of women in Prince's life. This phenomemnon has gone into overdrive since Prince's if death. I have kept my own mouth shut for a year about this, but it this point I'm fairly exasperated about it, and apparently others are as well. So, no I will not step off, and I will continue to call your asses out If I see fit.

Hopefully some of you will get it at some point.

You called people names and now you want to deny it. Which is pointness and spineless. Own up to the crap you did. You can twist it all you want but you have been exposed for the hypocrite you are. You can't complain that people are hypercritical of the female associates but you are quick to call female orgers names because they don't see things the way you do. It is clear you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. You think you are defending the female associates but you are really not doing so. Stay "exasperated". You cause that on yourself. You can call my ass out all day and night but my views stands. I can question as a see fit anybody, female or male about the statement I read or hear. You are quick to tell someone to step off but you don't want to take your own advice.

What's really exasperating and exhausting is having to go back and re-read sections because she says so many conflicting things, sometimes even within the same paragraph. I find it interesting that this person brings up gender in that most men aren't interested in a "love story" book and wouldn't read it. Secondly, this person shows up here and doesn't discuss anything in the book but feels it's somehow their duty to "call out posters" about something they've clearly not read. Yet, the Book Police says nothing about their posts - only keeps asking people who clearly HAVE READ THE BOOK if they've read the book.

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206Michelle said:

BklynDiamond said:

I have no problem with the women in Prince's life, I have a problem when there are accusations made against people who are not in a position to defend or clarify themselves.

I like Mayte. Overall, I love The Most Beautiful and I’m glad she wrote this book. She was an important part of Prince's life professionally and personally. He wrote a lot of songs about her. He loved her deeply and she loved him deeply. She was the mother of his only child. I’m glad that she shared about their son Amiir, and made very clear to the world how much she and loved their son. However, the more that I think about it, the more that I have a problem with what Mayte shared about the “troubling incident” regarding the alleged burning of items that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir, including the urn of Amiir’s ashes.

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I don't generally engage in character assassination of people. I generally reserve character assassination for people who do things like killing, raping, and abusing children. Otherwise, I try to abide by the adage of "condemn the action, not the person." We are all human. We all have flaws and make mistakes. So, I am not going to assassinate Mayte’s character as others are doing on this thread and elsewhere on prince.org, but I am going to criticize aspects of her behavior and writing that I think are in need of criticism.

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In my opinion, the most potentially damning detail that Mayte writes about Prince in The Most Beautiful is the “troubling incident” regarding the supposed burning of items that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir, including the urn of Amiir’s ashes. The more I think about it, the more I have a problem with what Mayte shared about this “troubling incident” on pp. 263-264 for three reasons. First, the “troubling incident” is heresay. Second, she writes about the “troubling incident” in the passive voice, creating a lack of clarity for the reader. Third, she shares very little about what she did to address Amiir’s missing ashes.

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To address my first point, the details about the “troubling incident” are almost entirely heresay. Heresay is a problem because she did not witness what happened. She heard about what happened. She doesn’t name the “compassionate friend” who told her about what allegedly happened during the “troubling incident.” As a result, there is no way for anyone to independently verify the details about the “troubling incident.” I don't like that she shares about the burning of items that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir because this is heresay, but it doesn't bother me as much as the heresay about the ashes because the items reminding Prince of Mayte and Amir are property. However, since she wasn’t there to witness the alleged burning, I think it would have been better to omit the details of the “troubling incident.” Regarding the ashes, those are human remains. Destroying human remains is a very serious matter, in my opinion. Destroying the remains of one's deceased child is a very serious matter because those are the human remains of your child.

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If Prince did indeed have his assitant burn the urn of Amiir’s ashes, this is an act that would cause me to feel differently about Prince. Would I still be a fan of Prince’s music? Yes, I would be. Would I still be a fan of him as a person? It’s harder to say, but I doubt that I could celebrate him as I currently do if I knew for sure that he had someone destroy Amiir's ashes. I can take Mayte at her word about most of what she writes in the book. However, regarding the whereabouts of the ashes, what she says is heresay, and heresay is not strong enough evidence for me to believe the very serious allegation that Prince had someone burn/destroy the ashes of Amiir, his only beloved child.

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Second, Mayte writes about the “troubling incident” in the passive voice. For the record, I am not a fan of the use of the passive voice. In my own writing, I try to avoid the use of the passive voice because the passive voice often leads to a lack of clarity. I try to use the passive voice only if the use of the active voice is clearly inappropriate. For example, I think it is appropriate to use the passive voice when talking about the weather. Weather is a complex phenomenon and there often isn’t a clear agent causing the weather. Therefore, I see no problem with using the passive voice and saying “it snowed.” Using the active voice and saying, “the sky released snow” or “the atmosphere created snow” just sounds silly. That being said, Mayte’s use of the passive voice regarding the “troubling incident” leads to a lack of clarity and a lack of certainty for the reader. In other words, by writing in the passive voice, she does not own what she is writing about the “troubling incident.”

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On p. 264, Mayte writes that “Prince's assistant was upset that he had been asked to burn everything in the house that reminded him of me or the baby” (the underlining and italics are mine). In this sentence, the use of the passive voice creates a lack of clarity by omitting the agent who is responsible for the burning. Given the context of the sentence, the reader can infer that Prince asked his assitant to burn the items; in other words, Prince is the agent. This “troubling incident” is an important detail that has consequences for how the reader perceives Prince, Mayte, and the assistant. The details of the "troubling incident" matter in the "court of public opinion." The "troubling incident" can lead a reader who is knowledgeable about Prince to speculate about whom the assistant is. However, in my opinon, the reader should not have to make this inference about agency, that is, who was responsible for the burning. Rather, Mayte, as the author, needs to be clear and certain about what happened. Unfortunately, her use of the passive voice leaves the reader unclear and uncertain about the details of the "troubling incident." Burning/destroying human remains is a serious matter, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate for Mayte, or any author, to use the passive voice when describing such a serious incident because using the passive voice leads the reader to be unclear and uncertain what happened. This is not a court of law. This is a memoir. She chose to share certain details in the book. When sharing important and consequential details like the “troubling incident,” I believe that she either needs to be clear and certain about what happened or omit the details entirely because details like the "troubling incident" can cause readers to accuse or convict individuals in the "court of public opinion."

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As a knowledgeable Prince fan, Mayte's description of the "troubling incident" in addition to my background knowledge about Prince's long-time associates have led me to infer that the male assistant is Kirk Johnson. This is a specific example of what I mean by accusing or convicting someone in the "court of public opinion." I have no idea if the assistant in question was Kirk, but it's not fair to Kirk to have a bunch of Prince fans like myself thinking that he might have destroyed Amiir's ashes and everything that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir.

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Furthermore, when she says "that reminded him," it is unclear to whom the pronoun him refers. Does him refer to Prince or Prince’s assistant? Given the context of the sentence, I can infer that him refers to Prince. But again, this is an important detail that has consequences as to how the reader perceives Prince, Mayte, and the assistant. Therefore, the reader should not have to make this inference about to whom the pronoun refers.

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The way in which Mayte writes this sentence about the “troubling incident,” with the passive voice and the lack of clarity regarding to whom the pronoun him refers, Mayte conveys a lack of clarity and lack of certainty. This is a strong accusation to make that Prince had someone burn Amiir’s ashes. She needs to own the accusation. The way I see it, she is obscuring the role of the Prince in this situation. Why? If she wanted to obscure Prince’s role in the situation, don’t share the situation in the first place. If Mayte believes that Prince ordered his assistant to burn everything that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir, she should have come out and said it assertively, such as like this: “Prince's assistant was upset because Prince had asked the assistant to burn everything in the house that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir." If Mayte wanted to make it clear the sex of the assistant, she could have written "Prince's male assistant was upset about Prince asking him to burn everything in the house that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir" or "One of Prince's male assistants was upset that Prince asked him to burn everything in the house that reminded Prince of Mayte and Amiir."

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Third, Mayte provides very little detail about what she did in order to find out about the whereabouts of Amiir’s ashes. On p. 263 she writes that she kept "asking and badgering and getting no answer," but she doesn't state whom she asked and whom was refusing to answer. I wonder why she is so evasive here. I wish that she had been more specific about whom she asked and whom refused to answer. If she asked Prince directly about the ashes and he refused to answer, then she should have written that, perhaps something like this: “I asked Prince about the whereabouts of Amiir’s ashes numerous times, and he refused to give me an answer.”

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That being said, if Prince refused to tell her what happened to the ashes, why didn’t she do more to address this situation. Maybe she did do more, but she doesn’t share that with us. However, given the seriousness of the information that she shares regarding the “troubling incident,” she opens that Pandora’s box, and needs to share more. The fact that she does not share more about what she did to find out about Amiir’s ashes makes me question the veracity of her claim on p. 263 that “only one small think truly mattered to me: Amiir’s ashes.” In particular, I want to know, Did she pursue the ashes as a part of the divorce settlement? I am no expert in divorce law. However, as Amiir's mother, I would think that Mayte had a right to assert herself regarding the whereabouts of as well as what would happen regarding Amiir's ashes. Did she make any kind of request to have a judge look into this issue? On pp. 261-262, she writes that she knew she and ’s marriage was ending, and that she lost the will to fight it. She mentions having terrible depression. I understand that this was a terribly sad situation for her and her whole world was crashing down on her. And for the record, I think that is to blame for a lot of the demise of their marriage because he was a married man and never should have been so friendly with Mani. He should not have made the sleezy “Greatest Romance Ever Sold” video. But if she cared so much about Amiir’s ashes, why didn’t she do more to find out what happened to them?

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After Amiir died, the urn of his ashes were on a shelf. Were the ashes still on that shelf when she and divorced? Before she moved to Spain, where did she and keep the ashes? If Amiir’s ashes mattered so much to Mayte, did she exhaust all avenues in order to find out what happened to them? Readers don’t know. If she exhausted all avenues in order to located the ashes, I would have expected her to share this information in the book given the seriousness of the details that she describes in the “troubling incident.” The omission of the information about what she did to find out what happened to Amiir’s ashes leads me to infer that she did not exhaust all avenues. In my opinion, given the seriousness of the issue that was the whereabouts of her son’s remains, Mayte should have been clear and certain about what she did to find out about the whereabouts of Amiir’s remains instead of allowing room for readers to make inferences about what she did or did not do. She said that she accepted the "crap offer" for the house in Spain and all of its contents because she just wanted to move on. However, it troubles me that she didn't fight harder to find out what happened to the remains of her son. As Amiir’s mother, she could have and SHOULD HAVE made the whereabouts of his remains an issue in the divorce proceedings and/or settlement.

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For all of the reasons I have just described, namely the heresay, use of the passive voice, and the lack of detail about what Mayte find out about the whereabouts of Amiir’s ashes, I have come to the conclusion that I do not have enough information to conclude that Prince had someone destroy Amiir’s ashes. All I can conclude is that at this time, I do not know what happened to Amiir's ashes. I just wish she had not mentioned the “troubling incident” at all in the book because the way in which Mayte writes about the “troubling incident” is evasive and confusing.

Excellent points. I'm left wondering how she "lost track of it" but then makes such a big deal of it in the book. Either it was important and she should have dogged it until she had it, or she realized they were "only ashes" and not even mentioned the incident since she had no real knowledge of it happening. The only conclusion I can come to for her writing about it, like some of the other incidents she mentions, is because she wanted to cast P in a bad light. As I've said before, she never relays any stories of tenderness, humor or the genius P was. The one and only time is when she speaks of him staying with their son throughout his ordeal. One has to question why, if he was such a d*ck to her, would she marry him in the fist place??

Misslink88 said:

What's really exasperating and exhausting is having to go back and re-read sections because she says so many conflicting things, sometimes even within the same paragraph. I find it interesting that this person brings up gender in that most men aren't interested in a "love story" book and wouldn't read it. Secondly, this person shows up here and doesn't discuss anything in the book but feels it's somehow their duty to "call out posters" about something they've clearly not read. Yet, the Book Police says nothing about their posts - only keeps asking people who clearly HAVE READ THE BOOK if they've read the book.

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That's a pretty simple fix since you are soooo upset over things......move on to a different thread. See how simple it is???

Misslink88 said:

Excellent points. I'm left wondering how she "lost track of it" but then makes such a big deal of it in the book. Either it was important and she should have dogged it until she had it, or she realized they were "only ashes" and not even mentioned the incident since she had no real knowledge of it happening. The only conclusion I can come to for her writing about it, like some of the other incidents she mentions, is because she wanted to cast P in a bad light. As I've said before, she never relays any stories of tenderness, humor or the genius P was. The one and only time is when she speaks of him staying with their son throughout his ordeal. One has to question why, if he was such a d*ck to her, would she marry him in the fist place??

Because he wasn't such a dick to her when he asked her to marry him...........

PennyPurple said:

Misslink88 said:

Excellent points. I'm left wondering how she "lost track of it" but then makes such a big deal of it in the book. Either it was important and she should have dogged it until she had it, or she realized they were "only ashes" and not even mentioned the incident since she had no real knowledge of it happening. The only conclusion I can come to for her writing about it, like some of the other incidents she mentions, is because she wanted to cast P in a bad light. As I've said before, she never relays any stories of tenderness, humor or the genius P was. The one and only time is when she speaks of him staying with their son throughout his ordeal. One has to question why, if he was such a d*ck to her, would she marry him in the fist place??

Because he wasn't such a dick to her when he asked her to marry him...........

He was a dick to her when he was dating Nona and Carmen while seeing her. They all worked togehter so she knew what was going with him from day one.

He was a womanzier and all his women knew the deal but as long as the record contracts, clothes and jewels were forthcoming they did not care.

At least Sheila E admits that she knew about his harem from the beginning.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Because he wasn't such a dick to her when he asked her to marry him...........

He was a dick to her when he was dating Nona and Carmen while seeing her. They all worked togehter so she knew what was going with him from day one.

He was a womanzier and all his women knew the deal but as long as the record contracts, clothes and jewels were forthcoming they did not care.

At least Sheila E admits that she knew about his harem from the beginning.

He wasn't dating Mayte at that time...

I read the book and haven't had the time to write my thoughts-I am just catching up on this thread.

Not all of my thougths are negative but I did have 2 questions:

1. In the beginning she speaks of about performing, ballet, etc...I have not been able to find any clips of her doing ballet, etc. Though a fan since the very late 70s and early 80's, I never saw her perfom live...(at a concert). Sure I have seen the vidoes, Soul Train, etc.

I was just wondeirng from anyone else with an artitisitic eye....Is she a talented dancer really besdies maybe grinding? This is a serious question. I know she bellydances, etc but I also know professional dancers who also do bellydance, and I don't see her as 'over the top' in her talent. I don't mean this cheeky. I loved some of the dancing I saw on her music videos but I can't find much of her dancing outside of the bump and grind...I was curious on maybe other dancers here can comment on her actual talent.

2. I have a hard time believing she came to Prince with 100K in her pocket. I have acquaintances who are profesional dancers,,,and I have an idea of what they may earn to perform or teach for an hour or so. She was 'contracted' out to dance almost 30 years ago with rates being much lower than they are now. There is no way she was making the money she acts like she had. I just don't believe it. Plus she travelled, etc and I am sure maybe she was frugal as she stated, but I am still not sure she had 100K going in. Maybe she lost track of that and is assuming/guestimating. But that is just my take on that. I just felt that on this part, she was sadly trying to prove that she was 'someonoe' and a 'professional' without P, on her own. Back then 100k was alot of money

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I will try to get time to comment on my overall thoughts but those were my dance questions.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

He was a dick to her when he was dating Nona and Carmen while seeing her. They all worked togehter so she knew what was going with him from day one.

He was a womanzier and all his women knew the deal but as long as the record contracts, clothes and jewels were forthcoming they did not care.

At least Sheila E admits that she knew about his harem from the beginning.

He wasn't dating Mayte at that time...

Yes, he was she said she got on the pill at 19. Carmen was still around and Nona has talked about how she knew about Mayte getting her ring and waving it around. Nona actually believed he was going to marry her. There is a clip of all three of them on the American Music Awards dancing around when he does his performance on the show.

vandeluca said:

I read the book and haven't had the time to write my thoughts-I am just catching up on this thread.

Not all of my thougths are negative but I did have 2 questions:

1. In the beginning she speaks of about performing, ballet, etc...I have not been able to find any clips of her doing ballet, etc. Though a fan since the very late 70s and early 80's, I never saw her perfom live...(at a concert). Sure I have seen the vidoes, Soul Train, etc.

I was just wondeirng from anyone else with an artitisitic eye....Is she a talented dancer really besdies maybe grinding? This is a serious question. I know she bellydances, etc but I also know professional dancers who also do bellydance, and I don't see her as 'over the top' in her talent. I don't mean this cheeky. I loved some of the dancing I saw on her music videos but I can't find much of her dancing outside of the bump and grind...I was curious on maybe other dancers here can comment on her actual talent.

2. I have a hard time believing she came to Prince with 100K in her pocket. I have acquaintances who are profesional dancers,,,and I have an idea of what they may earn to perform or teach for an hour or so. She was 'contracted' out to dance almost 30 years ago with rates being much lower than they are now. There is no way she was making the money she acts like she had. I just don't believe it. Plus she travelled, etc and I am sure maybe she was frugal as she stated, but I am still not sure she had 100K going in. Maybe she lost track of that and is assuming/guestimating. But that is just my take on that. I just felt that on this part, she was sadly trying to prove that she was 'someonoe' and a 'professional' without P, on her own. Back then 100k was alot of money

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I will try to get time to comment on my overall thoughts but those were my dance questions.

You are not the only one to question that 100k figure. I am not even going to speculate on where that kind of money may came from.

laurarichardson said:

vandeluca said:

I read the book and haven't had the time to write my thoughts-I am just catching up on this thread.

Not all of my thougths are negative but I did have 2 questions:

1. In the beginning she speaks of about performing, ballet, etc...I have not been able to find any clips of her doing ballet, etc. Though a fan since the very late 70s and early 80's, I never saw her perfom live...(at a concert). Sure I have seen the vidoes, Soul Train, etc.

I was just wondeirng from anyone else with an artitisitic eye....Is she a talented dancer really besdies maybe grinding? This is a serious question. I know she bellydances, etc but I also know professional dancers who also do bellydance, and I don't see her as 'over the top' in her talent. I don't mean this cheeky. I loved some of the dancing I saw on her music videos but I can't find much of her dancing outside of the bump and grind...I was curious on maybe other dancers here can comment on her actual talent.

2. I have a hard time believing she came to Prince with 100K in her pocket. I have acquaintances who are profesional dancers,,,and I have an idea of what they may earn to perform or teach for an hour or so. She was 'contracted' out to dance almost 30 years ago with rates being much lower than they are now. There is no way she was making the money she acts like she had. I just don't believe it. Plus she travelled, etc and I am sure maybe she was frugal as she stated, but I am still not sure she had 100K going in. Maybe she lost track of that and is assuming/guestimating. But that is just my take on that. I just felt that on this part, she was sadly trying to prove that she was 'someonoe' and a 'professional' without P, on her own. Back then 100k was alot of money

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I will try to get time to comment on my overall thoughts but those were my dance questions.

You are not the only one to question that 100k figure. I am not even going to speculate on where that kind of money may came from.

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

You are not the only one to question that 100k figure. I am not even going to speculate on where that kind of money may came from.

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

I have read the book as the bootleg is the same as the book and you have been told this a few times already.

I know what Mayte said I just do not believe it as another poster just explained to you why it is not belivable. This info is in the book and we are discussing it.

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

I have read the book as the bootleg is the same as the book and you have been told this a few times already.

I know what Mayte said I just do not believe it as another poster just explained to you why it is not belivable. This info is in the book and we are discussing it.

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What you all fail to realize is, that it's Mayte's book, Mayte's story to tell. Just because any one of us doesn't like what is said, doesn't give anyone the right to call her a liar, or anything else, because the FACT IS.....None of us were there.

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I paid for my copy of this book, as did others here on this thread. You didn't pay for the bootleg, you said that you wasn't going to buy her book for her to make money off of you and that you wouldn't give it the time of day....AND YET HERE YOU ARE.

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I've spent money on this book, I've done a lot of research and put a lot of time in on this thread, as has the others that have took part in the book club. I've even reached out to the author. The ONLY reason you are over here, is because you have to start trouble on every. single. thread. The same goes for Missilink and billieballoon. You all didn't want to participate, remember? And yet here you all are.

I don't know how my original post came in this argument but I read the book thorough and I had a legitmiate question. Feel free to answer it if you have the knowlege or requirement I asked for (artistic eye).

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

You are not the only one to question that 100k figure. I am not even going to speculate on where that kind of money may came from.

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

vandeluca said:

I don't know how my original post came in this argument but I read the book thorough and I had a legitmiate question. Feel free to answer it if you have the knowlege or requirement I asked for (artistic eye).

PennyPurple said:

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

My reply was to Laura, vandeluca, sorry if you thought it was for you.

I was using your questions as an example of someone else who thinks the 100k is a little hard to believe. I wish I knew someone in the dance field because it sounds crazy for someone still in high school to make that kind of money belly dancing or any kind of dancing. I do not think everything Mayte is saying is golden as she is a person like anyone else not a saint with wings coming out of her back.

vandeluca said:

I don't know how my original post came in this argument but I read the book thorough and I had a legitmiate question. Feel free to answer it if you have the knowlege or requirement I asked for (artistic eye).

PennyPurple said:

It came from the career she had before she ever met Prince. Now if you'd read the damn book instead of the bootleg, maybe you'd know what you were talking about. She told us how she got the money.....

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Why do you insist on coming on these book threads to correct everyone, when you don't even know what the hell you are talking about 1/2 the damn time. And all you do is hate on the people who wrote the damn books. This isn't about how much you hate them. We WERE actually trying to discuss the damn book.

LBrent said:

206Michelle said:

When I read that Prince and Mayte knew each other for 3 years before they had sex, I was astonished. Look, I don't want to underestimate Prince and his ability to exhibit self-control, but if you listen to Prince's music, it's pretty clear that the man loved sex.

Mayte says in her book that THEY didn't have sex for 3 years...she never said HE didn't have sex for 3 years.

And apparently she either knew or suspected, but some gals are more concerned with how their relationship is progressing and not worrying about what the guy might be doing with someone else. Considering her upbringing, I'm not surprised if she knew and didn't take it seriously.

Also, I just remembered that Devin Devasquez mentions laying in bed with P and they'd be booty butt nekkid and she's tried to molesticate him, but he'd just cuddle and tell her to go to sleep.

It didn't go on 3 years, but clearly he was capable of self control when he wanted to.

I thought it was cute and also a part of his seduction.

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Devin Devasquez said he made up for lost time later.

About the 100K. During that time living in Germany she would get paid in Deutsche marks, so due to the currency conversaion to USD, I thought she was just bad at math.

vandeluca said:

I read the book and haven't had the time to write my thoughts-I am just catching up on this thread.

Not all of my thougths are negative but I did have 2 questions:

1. In the beginning she speaks of about performing, ballet, etc...I have not been able to find any clips of her doing ballet, etc. Though a fan since the very late 70s and early 80's, I never saw her perfom live...(at a concert). Sure I have seen the vidoes, Soul Train, etc.

I was just wondeirng from anyone else with an artitisitic eye....Is she a talented dancer really besdies maybe grinding? This is a serious question. I know she bellydances, etc but I also know professional dancers who also do bellydance, and I don't see her as 'over the top' in her talent. I don't mean this cheeky. I loved some of the dancing I saw on her music videos but I can't find much of her dancing outside of the bump and grind...I was curious on maybe other dancers here can comment on her actual talent.

2. I have a hard time believing she came to Prince with 100K in her pocket. I have acquaintances who are profesional dancers,,,and I have an idea of what they may earn to perform or teach for an hour or so. She was 'contracted' out to dance almost 30 years ago with rates being much lower than they are now. There is no way she was making the money she acts like she had. I just don't believe it. Plus she travelled, etc and I am sure maybe she was frugal as she stated, but I am still not sure she had 100K going in. Maybe she lost track of that and is assuming/guestimating. But that is just my take on that. I just felt that on this part, she was sadly trying to prove that she was 'someonoe' and a 'professional' without P, on her own. Back then 100k was alot of money

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I will try to get time to comment on my overall thoughts but those were my dance questions.

I've never come across a ballet video but there is pic of her on this site. She has good form. I'd post it but it doesn't show up in my "preview" so I'm not sure if it will show up at all. You can find it on this thread http://prince.org/msg/5/3...6pg%3D6?pr almost at the end.

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PennyPurple said:

Misslink88 said:

What's really exasperating and exhausting is having to go back and re-read sections because she says so many conflicting things, sometimes even within the same paragraph. I find it interesting that this person brings up gender in that most men aren't interested in a "love story" book and wouldn't read it. Secondly, this person shows up here and doesn't discuss anything in the book but feels it's somehow their duty to "call out posters" about something they've clearly not read. Yet, the Book Police says nothing about their posts - only keeps asking people who clearly HAVE READ THE BOOK if they've read the book.

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That's a pretty simple fix since you are soooo upset over things......move on to a different thread. See how simple it is???

Not upset, Penny. Just asking for the rules to apply to everyone equally.

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

That's a pretty simple fix since you are soooo upset over things......move on to a different thread. See how simple it is???

Not upset, Penny. Just asking for the rules to apply to everyone equally.

Yeah, me too. Seems there are 2 sets of rules here on the Org. one set for us normal people and another set for the ones who like to hijack threads and start trouble.

PennyPurple said:

Misslink88 said:

Not upset, Penny. Just asking for the rules to apply to everyone equally.

Yeah, me too. Seems there are 2 sets of rules here on the Org. one set for us normal people and another set for the ones who like to hijack threads and start trouble.

Yes, you "normal people" get to name-call, make proclamations, and do character assasinations as you've just demonstrated again. Look @ how many times you've repremanded people for daring to question what she wrote. You come guns a-blazing after anyone whom you perceive as being critical or negative - and it's ALL negative if one isn't swooning over it, in your estimation. Your agenda is clear: only those who love the book will be high-fived with "well saids" and everyone else is trying to "derail the thread". Don't even try to feign you're being objective.

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah, me too. Seems there are 2 sets of rules here on the Org. one set for us normal people and another set for the ones who like to hijack threads and start trouble.

Yes, you "normal people" get to name-call, make proclamations, and do character assasinations as you've just demonstrated again. Look @ how many times you've repremanded people for daring to question what she wrote. You come guns a-blazing after anyone whom you perceive as being critical or negative - and it's ALL negative if one isn't swooning over it, in your estimation. Your agenda is clear: only those who love the book will be high-fived with "well saids" and everyone else is trying to "derail the thread". Don't even try to feign you're being objective.

And the only reason you and the 2 others are over here is to derail and hijack that thread. You aren't interested in Mayte, if you were, you'd have participated at the very beginning with Chpt 1.

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We were all doing fine and minding our own business, discussing the book like adults but certain people couldn't stand it. They are jelly. They just couldn't couldn't stand it.