This was lovely, but not nearly long enough for me.
Hurry ith the rest.
Are ya really gonna make us wait weeks for the rest??????
BTW, great accent, Jayne. I wanna have an accent tooooooo. [insert whiny pouty voice]
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bsprout said: 206Michelle said:
Yes, she did say that line in the book, on p. 135. . Now I know it's her life and she's very classy in how she handles things. But saying "If it wasn't you, it would have been someone else"...No No No, that is being too soft! You can forgive, but you don't excuse people's behavior. I almost feel like with the statement "If it wasn't you, it would have been someone else," she's excusing the behavior. Also, it kind of suggests or implies that Prince was prone to infidelity, but she never mentions any other instances of him being unfaithful during their marriage. In fact, I think that the relationship with Mani was the only infidelity she mentioned him having once he and Mayte were officially a couple. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) . She mentions that "he had a lot of women" on p. 135, but she never really goes into detail about him having anny affairs except for Mani. Yeah, her response startled me, too. It shows a passive and defeated attitude to me. I'm sure she knew the drill from the years before they were married, but this was different. As for whether or not he only cheated with Manuela, I don't know. I remember an org member here recalling her encounter with Prince, while he was still supposedly married to Mayte but things were already on the rocks - how he tried to pick her up after his concert and she naively went to his tour bus, where it was clear what he wanted. It was a very detailed story. She didn't seem like the stereotypical groupie and ends up turning him down, saying,'aren't you married?'[meaning to Mayte]. Who knows if it's true but I have to say I found it disturbing. If I recall I think Prince's people try and track her down again and this time she's pregnant and declines. It's all on here on some thread. Nuts. /// Rumors were going around about Anada Lewis, the crazy house girl, and that non-dancing women on the rave concert and who know who else. Goodness he was running around with Carmen and Nona before they got married. | |
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Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL | |
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Thanks LBrent! I was hoping you'd listen to it Not like I love my guitar.... | |
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jayseajay said:
Thanks LBrent! I was hoping you'd listen to it Except that I bet it wouldn't have worked. His problem was that he needed to be "abandoned", that's why he kept cheating. He needed professional help, no girlfriend or wife is going to play the mother role effectively. | |
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Exactly and exactly to you both.
I also keep remembering what a gal mentioned here about him not breaking up, but doing crap that made you want to go...and that artist guy who P basically ignored and didn't trust and would spy on and leave outside PP and have removed etc and the guy goldleafed P's 1st Avenue star...and the times when he'd be AT the parties, but up in VIP and not participating, but just being near the party...and the feeling I got that P felt unlovable so kept those folks at a distance who really loved him...and his remark about needing to do everything on his music cuz "what if everyone leaves me?"
Ultimately, he seemed to want love but did everything he could to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy that he beleived from very young...I'm unloveable, broken, unworthy. Everyone will eventually leave me, despite whatever they might say or do in the moment...and in the end I'll be all alone.
And he made sure at the end he was.
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So she did confirm it, about the ashes? I find that quite hard to stomach, really... | |
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Oh, absolutely...it's not reasonable, and no one can be blamed for not doing it...he engineered the whole thing and he engineered the results, however unconsciously... And it is he and no one else who bears responsibility for refusing to look at it or get professional help. But still, as LBrent says, we love him, and it still breaks my heart.... Not like I love my guitar.... | |
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I have been re-reading essays, articles, reviews, books, etc. going back 20 plus years and almost every author felt compelled to refer to Prince as 'tiny,', 'pocket-sized,'diminutive', 'elfin', etc, ad nauseum (as if no one could see for themselves) so that no matter how monumental his talent, how gigantic his gifts and awe-inspiring his presence, no matter how wealthy, successful or hard-working... he was slapped with those diminishing (for a male) descriptions every day of his life.Then the one-two punch: his apparent inability to father healthy children...forever there for the world to see. You can Google Prince and Pfeiffer's Syndrome is in the mix.
" Unlovable, broken, unworthy"...this precious damaged soul who made the stage steam but whose hyper-sexuality seemed to be some kind of mask like the make-up he applied almost every day of his adult life, bursting with talent, a thirst for love ('the kind that will last') that could never be quenched, writhing with the pain of loneliness...agony...
You are not alone, the universe is filled with broken hearts for Prince. Tears go here. | |
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jayseajay said:
Oh, absolutely...it's not reasonable, and no one can be blamed for not doing it...he engineered the whole thing and he engineered the results, however unconsciously... And it is he and no one else who bears responsibility for refusing to look at it or get professional help. But still, as LBrent says, we love him, and it still breaks my heart.... Yeah loving him is like loving a puppy, once you know his story you just can't help it. But then all the sexiness and mind blown ![]() ![]() | |
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Not being a troll or argumentative, but did anyone ever prove that Prince burned his son's urn, ashes and belongings? | |
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Yes confirmed it. | |
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But again, she didn't hold up for herself. I would've been in MN in nothing flat. Demanding answers. Although she didn't find out about until years later..I still would've been in MN. . I think there were several situations where she could've asserted herself that may have made a difference. | |
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Yes Mayte confirmed it last night on HLN. I can't find the link for the HLN but here is one from People about the HLN Story.
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LBrent -- I think you are likely right, assuming P could ever get past the lure of the sort of infatuation only a new relationship can bring. Thinking about it, even if he couldn't, maybe he still wanted her to fight for him. | |
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And yet, for all this "fight for him" and "soulmate" story, they spoke not even a handful of times in 20 years. Seems action speak louder than words. Even when he "tried" to return the auction items to him, he chose to have his lawyer contact her. Hmmmmmm. God is my Sugar Daddy. | |
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Yeah, just like Vanity/Denise wasn't his soulmate either. Hmmmmmm. | |
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But her saying it isn't really proof or evidence. Missed the program, by "confirmed it" do you mean she repeated what was already posted (i.e. that someone told her that this happened)? | |
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There is also a case for argument that if P was so "over it after 20 years", why have anyone, including his attorney, contact Mayte over outfits that he had clearly left behind during his fleeing the relationship when 20 years earlier he had ordered "everything destroyed that reminded him of the relationship".
Imagine your ex, after 20 years, inquiring about the sweats he/she had worn when lounging on the couch with you watching NetFlix and chillin.
Hmmmmmmm...
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Mayte has a different answer each time she is interviewed. Depending on what the wind is doing, her answer will be different. | |
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Ebony interview Dec 22, 2015
Prince: We talked about a lot of stuff. Listen. A lot of times I don’t talk about the past because you can’t do it without naming names. I’m not bitter by no stretch of the imagination. But I grew up poor, so I’m used to something: if it’s mine, I’m used to it being mine. If somebody takes it from me, it’s taken. It’s taken a lot to get used to that. That, ok, you’re somebody else. But I’m like, that’s my coat that’s in Hard Rock Café. They’re not supposed to have that. Get that outta there. And second of all: how did they get it? And then they’ll say, “well, a bandmate.” I say, “oh really? Go get the band member and bring him to me.” And then they sit down and come in with their head down. I ain’t gonna say who it is, but that’s what I’m talking about.
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And yet, after having his attorney contact her cuz ya know "it's mine", he never followed through...Hmmmmmmm
Funny how inconsistant P could be, ain't it?
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Every. Single. Time. I no longer believe anything she says. I guess Sheila forgot to tell her that she was playing the Seabreeze Jazz Festival in Miami on the 21st.
His ex-wife, Mayte Garcia, is torn about how she'll mark the day. "I think I might just stay home with my daughter and my dogs," Garcia told CNN. "Sheila E. is having a little get together, and I'm thinking about it. I don't know how I'm going to feel." http://www.cnn.com/2017/0...ia-prince/
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Yeah, April 21st never happened. Hmmmmmmm
Also, wasn't she supposed to give them a list?
[Edited 4/22/17 21:01pm] God is my Sugar Daddy. | |
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LMAO
I won't insult you by assuming that you're young, but in grown folks' world this is what's know as effing with your ex.
See, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
When you're truly indifferent and have "moved on" you're not interested in whatever your ex is doing, even if "the coat is mine".
Anyway, he left the stuff, by law she owned the stuff...4/21...so now she really owns the stuff without anyone to dispute it, sooooo...
Personally, I hope she does a photoshoot wearing every single solitary piece of that the stuff and sells the resulting pictures as a coffee table book, donating all the profits to Gia's college fund.
She could have it ready for this XMas.
But I'm just petty like dat.
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I hope the HLN special repeats because I missed it. .
. Having Amiir's ashes burned probably upsets me more than his infidelity, or anything else he has ever done. I don't like that he burned Amiir's clothes, books, and other items. It would have been nice if he could have donated those to someone in need, but I can give him a pass for burning those items. . Burning Amiir's ashes just comes across to me as really disrespectful, as if the remains of his son were trash. No, human remains are not trash. His son existed and his remains deserve to be treated with a certain level of respect. That was his child! And having someone throw Amiir's remains in the fire is very disrespectful to Mayte because he never considered her wishes regarding Amiir's remains. I wonder where Mayte was when Prince had the remains burned. Was she in Spain? . I wonder if Prince ever regretted burning Amiir's ashes. I hope that he did. I don't wish generally wish ill things upon people. However, I find it such a despicable act to burn the urn of your son's ashes that I hope it bothered him, I hope it kept him up at night, and I hope he regretted it for the rest of his life. I really do. I wonder if destroying his son's ashes caused him emotional pain at the end of his life. I hope that it did. I love the man, but having his son's ashes thrown into a fire was so wrong. I'm shaking my head as I type this. Like, there are no words to describe how wrong that is to me. I can't even wrap my head around someone doing what he did to his son's remains. [Edited 4/22/17 22:08pm] Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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And this is what I want to know. WHY didn't see demand answers out of him about the ashes? When she asked him about the ashes, what did he say to her? Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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