jayseajay said:

This is a little off topic, but as this is the main place I'm hanging out here at the moment, I just wanted to let you guys know I recorded a podcast last weekend with Zach Hoskins for the anniversary. It got kinda long, but in some of the later parts we discuss Mayte's book, and the new book by Ben Greenman, as well as discussing our thoughts about how we've processed P's death. In the first part we just do a general discussion of our own histories with Prince and reflect on why he matters, both to us personally and more generally. Anyways, hope you are all doing okay, on this special day of sadness and celebration. Purple love (and more) to you all. https://princesongs.org/2...are-jones/

This was lovely, but not nearly long enough for me.

Hurry ith the rest.

Are ya really gonna make us wait weeks for the rest??????

BTW, great accent, Jayne. I wanna have an accent tooooooo. [insert whiny pouty voice]

bsprout said:

Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL

LBrent said:

jayseajay said:

This is a little off topic, but as this is the main place I'm hanging out here at the moment, I just wanted to let you guys know I recorded a podcast last weekend with Zach Hoskins for the anniversary. It got kinda long, but in some of the later parts we discuss Mayte's book, and the new book by Ben Greenman, as well as discussing our thoughts about how we've processed P's death. In the first part we just do a general discussion of our own histories with Prince and reflect on why he matters, both to us personally and more generally. Anyways, hope you are all doing okay, on this special day of sadness and celebration. Purple love (and more) to you all. https://princesongs.org/2...are-jones/

This was lovely, but not nearly long enough for me.

Hurry ith the rest.

Are ya really gonna make us wait weeks for the rest??????

BTW, great accent, Jayne. I wanna have an accent tooooooo. [insert whiny pouty voice]

Thanks LBrent! I was hoping you'd listen to it Zach is doing the editing, so we're on his schedule with it and the last one took about 5 days or so to pull together...so yeah, unfortunately it'll take a bit of time to get all the parts out. Anyway, the next episode where we discuss Ben's book will possibly be longer - because I go off on a bit of a rant about men writing about Prince and his sexy without taking women's persective into account...which is kind of a decendant of some of what went on here during the famous Prince sexuality threads...Anyhoooo. Oh, also, your thoughts about P wanting Mayte to fight for him have been running about my head the last few days, and it struck me while I was talking to my mother about it - she's a shrink, so is kind of happy to paddle about in P's psyche with me - if we think that the site of the original trauma/abandonment was possibly the moment when he said he was leaving and his mother didn't turn round and go 'don't be ridiculous, you're 12 years old, you're not going anywhere, you're gonna stay right here where I can look after you'...then what we possibly have is someone doing what so many people do with their traumas and unconsciously re-enacting the original scenario...in this case, him wanting someone to show they loved him enough to not buy his defensive 'I'm alright' bullshit and actually really see him and stand up to him and for him...no matter how hard he made it for them. And of course, that never works, and you always end up getting the same result, which, in his case, would just amplify the original sense of abadonment and then lead to a further redoubling of the defence strategies. But that thought made me really really sad about the days just before his death and how he was curving everyone, and the thought that really, on some deep unconscious level, he rwas hoping someone would finally see through him and just come and hammer on the door and be all 'you're damn well not okay, and you're going to let me look after you and I'm not taking no for an answer this time.'

jayseajay said:

moonsister said:

jayseajay said:

Thanks LBrent! I was hoping you'd listen to it Zach is doing the editing, so we're on his schedule with it and the last one took about 5 days or so to pull together...so yeah, unfortunately it'll take a bit of time to get all the parts out. Anyway, the next episode where we discuss Ben's book will possibly be longer - because I go off on a bit of a rant about men writing about Prince and his sexy without taking women's persective into account...which is kind of a decendant of some of what went on here during the famous Prince sexuality threads...Anyhoooo. Oh, also, your thoughts about P wanting Mayte to fight for him have been running about my head the last few days, and it struck me while I was talking to my mother about it - she's a shrink, so is kind of happy to paddle about in P's psyche with me - if we think that the site of the original trauma/abandonment was possibly the moment when he said he was leaving and his mother didn't turn round and go 'don't be ridiculous, you're 12 years old, you're not going anywhere, you're gonna stay right here where I can look after you'...then what we possibly have is someone doing what so many people do with their traumas and unconsciously re-enacting the original scenario...in this case, him wanting someone to show they loved him enough to not buy his defensive 'I'm alright' bullshit and actually really see him and stand up to him and for him...no matter how hard he made it for them. And of course, that never works, and you always end up getting the same result, which, in his case, would just amplify the original sense of abadonment and then lead to a further redoubling of the defence strategies. But that thought made me really really sad about the days just before his death and how he was curving everyone, and the thought that really, on some deep unconscious level, he rwas hoping someone would finally see through him and just come and hammer on the door and be all 'you're damn well not okay, and you're going to let me look after you and I'm not taking no for an answer this time.'

Except that I bet it wouldn't have worked. His problem was that he needed to be "abandoned", that's why he kept cheating. He needed professional help, no girlfriend or wife is going to play the mother role effectively.

Exactly and exactly to you both.

I also keep remembering what a gal mentioned here about him not breaking up, but doing crap that made you want to go...and that artist guy who P basically ignored and didn't trust and would spy on and leave outside PP and have removed etc and the guy goldleafed P's 1st Avenue star...and the times when he'd be AT the parties, but up in VIP and not participating, but just being near the party...and the feeling I got that P felt unlovable so kept those folks at a distance who really loved him...and his remark about needing to do everything on his music cuz "what if everyone leaves me?"

Ultimately, he seemed to want love but did everything he could to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy that he beleived from very young...I'm unloveable, broken, unworthy. Everyone will eventually leave me, despite whatever they might say or do in the moment...and in the end I'll be all alone.

And he made sure at the end he was.

Breaks my damned heart.

PennyPurple said:

Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL

So she did confirm it, about the ashes? I find that quite hard to stomach, really...

moonsister said:

jayseajay said:

Thanks LBrent! I was hoping you'd listen to it Zach is doing the editing, so we're on his schedule with it and the last one took about 5 days or so to pull together...so yeah, unfortunately it'll take a bit of time to get all the parts out. Anyway, the next episode where we discuss Ben's book will possibly be longer - because I go off on a bit of a rant about men writing about Prince and his sexy without taking women's persective into account...which is kind of a decendant of some of what went on here during the famous Prince sexuality threads...Anyhoooo. Oh, also, your thoughts about P wanting Mayte to fight for him have been running about my head the last few days, and it struck me while I was talking to my mother about it - she's a shrink, so is kind of happy to paddle about in P's psyche with me - if we think that the site of the original trauma/abandonment was possibly the moment when he said he was leaving and his mother didn't turn round and go 'don't be ridiculous, you're 12 years old, you're not going anywhere, you're gonna stay right here where I can look after you'...then what we possibly have is someone doing what so many people do with their traumas and unconsciously re-enacting the original scenario...in this case, him wanting someone to show they loved him enough to not buy his defensive 'I'm alright' bullshit and actually really see him and stand up to him and for him...no matter how hard he made it for them. And of course, that never works, and you always end up getting the same result, which, in his case, would just amplify the original sense of abadonment and then lead to a further redoubling of the defence strategies. But that thought made me really really sad about the days just before his death and how he was curving everyone, and the thought that really, on some deep unconscious level, he rwas hoping someone would finally see through him and just come and hammer on the door and be all 'you're damn well not okay, and you're going to let me look after you and I'm not taking no for an answer this time.'

Except that I bet it wouldn't have worked. His problem was that he needed to be "abandoned", that's why he kept cheating. He needed professional help, no girlfriend or wife is going to play the mother role effectively.

Oh, absolutely...it's not reasonable, and no one can be blamed for not doing it...he engineered the whole thing and he engineered the results, however unconsciously... And it is he and no one else who bears responsibility for refusing to look at it or get professional help. But still, as LBrent says, we love him, and it still breaks my heart....

MMJas said:

PennyPurple said:

Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL

So she did confirm it, about the ashes? I find that quite hard to stomach, really...

My God, I don't know if I could ever forgive someone for committing such a cold-hearted act.

LBrent said:

moonsister said:

jayseajay said: Except that I bet it wouldn't have worked. His problem was that he needed to be "abandoned", that's why he kept cheating. He needed professional help, no girlfriend or wife is going to play the mother role effectively.

Exactly and exactly to you both.

I also keep remembering what a gal mentioned here about him not breaking up, but doing crap that made you want to go...and that artist guy who P basically ignored and didn't trust and would spy on and leave outside PP and have removed etc and the guy goldleafed P's 1st Avenue star...and the times when he'd be AT the parties, but up in VIP and not participating, but just being near the party...and the feeling I got that P felt unlovable so kept those folks at a distance who really loved him...and his remark about needing to do everything on his music cuz "what if everyone leaves me?"

Ultimately, he seemed to want love but did everything he could to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy that he beleived from very young...I'm unloveable, broken, unworthy. Everyone will eventually leave me, despite whatever they might say or do in the moment...and in the end I'll be all alone.

And he made sure at the end he was.

Breaks my damned heart.

I have been re-reading essays, articles, reviews, books, etc. going back 20 plus years and almost every author felt compelled to refer to Prince as 'tiny,', 'pocket-sized,'diminutive', 'elfin', etc, ad nauseum (as if no one could see for themselves) so that no matter how monumental his talent, how gigantic his gifts and awe-inspiring his presence, no matter how wealthy, successful or hard-working... he was slapped with those diminishing (for a male) descriptions every day of his life.Then the one-two punch: his apparent inability to father healthy children...forever there for the world to see. You can Google Prince and Pfeiffer's Syndrome is in the mix.

" Unlovable, broken, unworthy"...this precious damaged soul who made the stage steam but whose hyper-sexuality seemed to be some kind of mask like the make-up he applied almost every day of his adult life, bursting with talent, a thirst for love ('the kind that will last') that could never be quenched, writhing with the pain of loneliness...agony...

You are not alone, the universe is filled with broken hearts for Prince. Tears go here.

jayseajay said:

LBrent said:

laurarichardson said:

Are you happy because I never said she was a whore. In fact if she did run around with that guy more power to her. Prince was running around with M2 and according to her loads of other women.

She knew he was a manwhore when she worked for him. Anyone would get tired of the double standard.

I just think she should be honest about it and I still say she should have went back to Minn and beat M2's ass. She looks likes Sue Sauagehead being friends with that hooker.

And that all may very well be true...and anyone and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion regarding the events that Mayte tells about in the book, however, she said she didn't cheat on P, P said she didn't cheat on him...and other than media saying Mayte was "seen" with some guy in Spain, there is no evidence to support the assumption that she might've cheated other than having been seen in public with some guy.

So unless someone can prove that it happened...it didn't happen. Despite whomever it may or may not make sense to...if it can't be proven, it didn't happen.

Just sayin

Not being a troll or argumentative, but did anyone ever prove that Prince burned his son's urn, ashes and belongings?

MMJas said:

PennyPurple said:

Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL

So she did confirm it, about the ashes? I find that quite hard to stomach, really...

Yes confirmed it.

Identity said:

MMJas said:

So she did confirm it, about the ashes? I find that quite hard to stomach, really...

My God, I don't know if I could ever forgive someone for committing such a cold-hearted act.

But again, she didn't hold up for herself. I would've been in MN in nothing flat. Demanding answers. Although she didn't find out about until years later..I still would've been in MN.

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I think there were several situations where she could've asserted herself that may have made a difference.

Asenath0607 said:

LBrent said:

And that all may very well be true...and anyone and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion regarding the events that Mayte tells about in the book, however, she said she didn't cheat on P, P said she didn't cheat on him...and other than media saying Mayte was "seen" with some guy in Spain, there is no evidence to support the assumption that she might've cheated other than having been seen in public with some guy.

So unless someone can prove that it happened...it didn't happen. Despite whomever it may or may not make sense to...if it can't be proven, it didn't happen.

Just sayin

Not being a troll or argumentative, but did anyone ever prove that Prince burned his son's urn, ashes and belongings?

Yes Mayte confirmed it last night on HLN. I can't find the link for the HLN but here is one from People about the HLN Story.

http://people.com/music/p...sic-vault/

LBrent said:

jayseajay said:

This is a little off topic, but as this is the main place I'm hanging out here at the moment, I just wanted to let you guys know I recorded a podcast last weekend with Zach Hoskins for the anniversary. It got kinda long, but in some of the later parts we discuss Mayte's book, and the new book by Ben Greenman, as well as discussing our thoughts about how we've processed P's death. In the first part we just do a general discussion of our own histories with Prince and reflect on why he matters, both to us personally and more generally. Anyways, hope you are all doing okay, on this special day of sadness and celebration. Purple love (and more) to you all. https://princesongs.org/2...are-jones/

This was lovely, but not nearly long enough for me.

Hurry ith the rest.

Are ya really gonna make us wait weeks for the rest??????

BTW, great accent, Jayne. I wanna have an accent tooooooo. [insert whiny pouty voice]

Yes, this! Right now wouldn't be a minute too soon for more.

moonsister said:

jayseajay said:

Oh, absolutely...it's not reasonable, and no one can be blamed for not doing it...he engineered the whole thing and he engineered the results, however unconsciously... And it is he and no one else who bears responsibility for refusing to look at it or get professional help. But still, as LBrent says, we love him, and it still breaks my heart....

Yeah loving him is like loving a puppy, once you know his story you just can't help it. But then all the sexiness and mind blown

Yes, and yes!

LBrent said:

moonsister said:

jayseajay said: Except that I bet it wouldn't have worked. His problem was that he needed to be "abandoned", that's why he kept cheating. He needed professional help, no girlfriend or wife is going to play the mother role effectively.

Exactly and exactly to you both.

I also keep remembering what a gal mentioned here about him not breaking up, but doing crap that made you want to go...and that artist guy who P basically ignored and didn't trust and would spy on and leave outside PP and have removed etc and the guy goldleafed P's 1st Avenue star...and the times when he'd be AT the parties, but up in VIP and not participating, but just being near the party...and the feeling I got that P felt unlovable so kept those folks at a distance who really loved him...and his remark about needing to do everything on his music cuz "what if everyone leaves me?"

Ultimately, he seemed to want love but did everything he could to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy that he beleived from very young...I'm unloveable, broken, unworthy. Everyone will eventually leave me, despite whatever they might say or do in the moment...and in the end I'll be all alone.

And he made sure at the end he was.

Breaks my damned heart.

Jayseajay -- sorry for the loud cries for MORE. I'll be grateful whenever Zach has things good to go.

Thank you, everyone, for these words. It breaks my heart, too.

I know we all feel for Prince and for Mayte. How sad, if he really wanted her to fight, e.g., at time of handshake. If that were true, and she could have known it, maybe things could have been different.

But then, inn her position, Mayte might have thought she should do the opposite.
She might have thought to not push, as she would seem needy. You know, we get all these messages about needy/very interested might not contrast well with the tempting "forbidden fruit." So, being the loudly forbidding wife may have seemed like a recipe for making the fruit all the more tempting. Some women might even have thought to try sparking interest by giving the guy a reason to be jealous.

LBrent -- I think you are likely right, assuming P could ever get past the lure of the sort of infatuation only a new relationship can bring. Thinking about it, even if he couldn't, maybe he still wanted her to fight for him.

It can be confusing, even in long term, relatively stable and unchallenged relationships. Even after a lot of years, a person can wonder. Should I show my guy my deep love by staring with the wide romantic eyes? Or should I put on one of our favorite outfits (in the case of Prince's woman, it might really be "their" outfit : ) ), and otherwise direct my attention elsewhere? Women get so many different messages...show your love, play hard to get, talk, act instead of talking, etc., etc.

Anyway, what an awful handshake.

And yet, for all this "fight for him" and "soulmate" story, they spoke not even a handful of times in 20 years. Seems action speak louder than words. Even when he "tried" to return the auction items to him, he chose to have his lawyer contact her. Hmmmmmm.

Misslink88 said:

And yet, for all this "fight for him" and "soulmate" story, they spoke not even a handful of times in 20 years. Seems action speak louder than words. Even when he "tried" to return the auction items to him, he chose to have his lawyer contact her. Hmmmmmm.

Yeah, just like Vanity/Denise wasn't his soulmate either. Hmmmmmm.

PennyPurple said:

Asenath0607 said:

Not being a troll or argumentative, but did anyone ever prove that Prince burned his son's urn, ashes and belongings?

Yes Mayte confirmed it last night on HLN. I can't find the link for the HLN but here is one from People about the HLN Story.

http://people.com/music/p...sic-vault/

But her saying it isn't really proof or evidence. Missed the program, by "confirmed it" do you mean she repeated what was already posted (i.e. that someone told her that this happened)?

There is also a case for argument that if P was so "over it after 20 years", why have anyone, including his attorney, contact Mayte over outfits that he had clearly left behind during his fleeing the relationship when 20 years earlier he had ordered "everything destroyed that reminded him of the relationship".

Imagine your ex, after 20 years, inquiring about the sweats he/she had worn when lounging on the couch with you watching NetFlix and chillin.

Hmmmmmmm...

Asenath0607 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes Mayte confirmed it last night on HLN. I can't find the link for the HLN but here is one from People about the HLN Story.

http://people.com/music/p...sic-vault/

But her saying it isn't really proof or evidence. Missed the program, by "confirmed it" do you mean she repeated what was already posted (i.e. that someone told her that this happened)?

Mayte has a different answer each time she is interviewed. Depending on what the wind is doing, her answer will be different.

LBrent said:

There is also a case for argument that if P was so "over it after 20 years", why have anyone, including his attorney, contact Mayte over outfits that he had clearly left behind during his fleeing the relationship when 20 years earlier he had ordered "everything destroyed that reminded him of the relationship".

Imagine your ex, after 20 years, inquiring about the sweats he/she had worn when lounging on the couch with you watching NetFlix and chillin.

Hmmmmmmm...

Ebony interview Dec 22, 2015

Prince: We talked about a lot of stuff. Listen. A lot of times I don’t talk about the past because you can’t do it without naming names. I’m not bitter by no stretch of the imagination. But I grew up poor, so I’m used to something: if it’s mine, I’m used to it being mine. If somebody takes it from me, it’s taken. It’s taken a lot to get used to that. That, ok, you’re somebody else. But I’m like, that’s my coat that’s in Hard Rock Café. They’re not supposed to have that. Get that outta there. And second of all: how did they get it? And then they’ll say, “well, a bandmate.” I say, “oh really? Go get the band member and bring him to me.” And then they sit down and come in with their head down. I ain’t gonna say who it is, but that’s what I’m talking about.

Misslink88 said:

LBrent said:

There is also a case for argument that if P was so "over it after 20 years", why have anyone, including his attorney, contact Mayte over outfits that he had clearly left behind during his fleeing the relationship when 20 years earlier he had ordered "everything destroyed that reminded him of the relationship".

Imagine your ex, after 20 years, inquiring about the sweats he/she had worn when lounging on the couch with you watching NetFlix and chillin.

Hmmmmmmm...

Ebony interview Dec 22, 2015

Prince: We talked about a lot of stuff. Listen. A lot of times I don’t talk about the past because you can’t do it without naming names. I’m not bitter by no stretch of the imagination. But I grew up poor, so I’m used to something: if it’s mine, I’m used to it being mine. If somebody takes it from me, it’s taken. It’s taken a lot to get used to that. That, ok, you’re somebody else. But I’m like, that’s my coat that’s in Hard Rock Café. They’re not supposed to have that. Get that outta there. And second of all: how did they get it? And then they’ll say, “well, a bandmate.” I say, “oh really? Go get the band member and bring him to me.” And then they sit down and come in with their head down. I ain’t gonna say who it is, but that’s what I’m talking about.

And yet, after having his attorney contact her cuz ya know "it's mine", he never followed through...Hmmmmmmm

Funny how inconsistant P could be, ain't it?

Purplestar88 said:

Asenath0607 said:

But her saying it isn't really proof or evidence. Missed the program, by "confirmed it" do you mean she repeated what was already posted (i.e. that someone told her that this happened)?

Mayte has a different answer each time she is interviewed. Depending on what the wind is doing, her answer will be different.

Every. Single. Time. I no longer believe anything she says. I guess Sheila forgot to tell her that she was playing the Seabreeze Jazz Festival in Miami on the 21st.

His ex-wife, Mayte Garcia, is torn about how she'll mark the day.

"I think I might just stay home with my daughter and my dogs," Garcia told CNN. "Sheila E. is having a little get together, and I'm thinking about it. I don't know how I'm going to feel."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/0...ia-prince/

LBrent said:

Misslink88 said:

Ebony interview Dec 22, 2015

Prince: We talked about a lot of stuff. Listen. A lot of times I don’t talk about the past because you can’t do it without naming names. I’m not bitter by no stretch of the imagination. But I grew up poor, so I’m used to something: if it’s mine, I’m used to it being mine. If somebody takes it from me, it’s taken. It’s taken a lot to get used to that. That, ok, you’re somebody else. But I’m like, that’s my coat that’s in Hard Rock Café. They’re not supposed to have that. Get that outta there. And second of all: how did they get it? And then they’ll say, “well, a bandmate.” I say, “oh really? Go get the band member and bring him to me.” And then they sit down and come in with their head down. I ain’t gonna say who it is, but that’s what I’m talking about.

And yet, after having his attorney contact her cuz ya know "it's mine", he never followed through...Hmmmmmmm

Funny how inconsistant P could be, ain't it?

Yeah, April 21st never happened. Hmmmmmmm

Also, wasn't she supposed to give them a list?

[Edited 4/22/17 21:01pm]

Misslink88 said:

LBrent said:

And yet, after having his attorney contact her cuz ya know "it's mine", he never followed through...Hmmmmmmm

Funny how inconsistant P could be, ain't it?

Yeah, April 21st never happened. Hmmmmmmm

Also, wasn't she supposed to give them a list?

[Edited 4/22/17 21:01pm]

LMAO

I won't insult you by assuming that you're young, but in grown folks' world this is what's know as effing with your ex.

See, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

When you're truly indifferent and have "moved on" you're not interested in whatever your ex is doing, even if "the coat is mine".

Anyway, he left the stuff, by law she owned the stuff...4/21...so now she really owns the stuff without anyone to dispute it, sooooo...

Personally, I hope she does a photoshoot wearing every single solitary piece of that the stuff and sells the resulting pictures as a coffee table book, donating all the profits to Gia's college fund.

She could have it ready for this XMas.

But I'm just petty like dat.

PennyPurple said:

Last night I watched the HLN special Prince: 1 year. Mayte was on for the entire 30 minute show. The interviewer asked her about the ashes, she said that yes they are gone Prince had them thrown in the fire. She said that she was so pissed when she heard that and it took a long while to come to terms with it, but now she has moved on. Also the code to the vault was her measurements. I'm sure it has since been changed. LOL

I hope the HLN special repeats because I missed it.

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It really upsets me that he had someone incinerate his son's ashes. I understand it may have been painful for him to have those ashes, but he could have just as easily "gotten rid of the ashes" by giving the ashes to Mayte and the effect would have been the same...he wouldn't have had to see them again.

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Having Amiir's ashes burned probably upsets me more than his infidelity, or anything else he has ever done. I don't like that he burned Amiir's clothes, books, and other items. It would have been nice if he could have donated those to someone in need, but I can give him a pass for burning those items.

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Burning Amiir's ashes just comes across to me as really disrespectful, as if the remains of his son were trash. No, human remains are not trash. His son existed and his remains deserve to be treated with a certain level of respect. That was his child! And having someone throw Amiir's remains in the fire is very disrespectful to Mayte because he never considered her wishes regarding Amiir's remains. I wonder where Mayte was when Prince had the remains burned. Was she in Spain?

.

I wonder if Prince ever regretted burning Amiir's ashes. I hope that he did. I don't wish generally wish ill things upon people. However, I find it such a despicable act to burn the urn of your son's ashes that I hope it bothered him, I hope it kept him up at night, and I hope he regretted it for the rest of his life. I really do. I wonder if destroying his son's ashes caused him emotional pain at the end of his life. I hope that it did. I love the man, but having his son's ashes thrown into a fire was so wrong. I'm shaking my head as I type this. Like, there are no words to describe how wrong that is to me. I can't even wrap my head around someone doing what he did to his son's remains.

[Edited 4/22/17 22:08pm]

PennyPurple said:

Identity said:

My God, I don't know if I could ever forgive someone for committing such a cold-hearted act.

But again, she didn't hold up for herself. I would've been in MN in nothing flat. Demanding answers. Although she didn't find out about until years later..I still would've been in MN.

.

I think there were several situations where she could've asserted herself that may have made a difference.

And this is what I want to know. WHY didn't see demand answers out of him about the ashes? When she asked him about the ashes, what did he say to her?