PennyPurple said:

Welcome Misslink, I am glad you decided to come to the Book Club. I wish you would've been here from Chapter 1.

The Auction:

The stuff that was left in possesion was legally hers, she got it in lieu of money. When that auction 1st started, it was stuff that Owen, Dez and Mayte were trying to get rid of. From what I've read (here on the org) and I'm not going thru 1000's of posts to try to find it, Prince was really trying to get Owen's stuff pulled, I don't think he really cared about the crap Mayte had. He wasn't interested for 20 years about it....I think the auction house got kinda freaky because they knew Prince had the money to drag it out for a LONG time, the auction house pulled it and didn't want no part of it. The stuff Mayte had, he had his lawyer call her and said Prince would buy the stuff back. I actually think Prince was doing this because he thought Mayte really needed the $$. She had that stuff stored in special storage, and tried to reach out to Prince several times about it. When his lawyer called and asked for a list, she probably wasn't in a hurry to get to him, because he no longer controlled her and she'd do it on her own time. Then the unthinkable happened and Prince died.

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If I was her (and I'm not) I wouldn't have included her ring OR the proposal letter, or the wedding dress. I would have held onto that for sentimental reasons, for the rest of my life. That other stuff like the blue outfit (which I never liked that outfit) would've been put in the auction. That was/is legally her property to do with what she liked.

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As far as this dude in Spain is concerned I don't think it's ever been proven that she did have an affair with him. Mayte has said in her book that she regrets not getting her azz back to MN and maybe if she would've been with him more instead of staying in Spain or visiting her parents and sister that it might have helped the marriage survive. So she does have regrets and takes some blame in the divorce. If she would've stayed in MN then Mani wouldn't have been able to get her foot in the door. But that is just my opinion.

[Edited 4/17/17 19:44pm]

Thanks for the welcome, Pennypurple. You seem like you've thought about some things that don't make sense and questioned them. This Spain thing really bothers me and I don't understand why she would stay there because, as you say, she wrote she has regrets about not being in MN. So, she says "the girl in MN is on her way in" - a very telling clue according to her. They bought the house in August '98 and in December '98 he has her sign annulment papers and announced it to the press. We know two things: her marriage is in trouble and she living in Spain. Now, put yourself in her shoes. She hears rumors about another woman sniffing around her husband, he rarely comes to Spain, she joins him only at events throughtout that year and a half but she continues to stay in Spain until May, 2000. Why is my question. Knowing all these things, what's preventing her from going to MN? She's not doing anything in Spain but growing vegetables and waiting. Was there something in the annulment papers that stipulated she stay there? I mean, I could understand if it took her six months or so to not grasp the situation, but the more reports she heard about Mani and when he did come there they fought about her, why would she just sit back, for a year, and pray, it would all go away? As for Joaquin and the press, when has anyone ever admitted to having an affair in the press? Regardless, it still doesn't make sense to live on another continent if you're trying to save your marriage.

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Welcome Misslink, I am glad you decided to come to the Book Club. I wish you would've been here from Chapter 1.

The Auction:

The stuff that was left in possesion was legally hers, she got it in lieu of money. When that auction 1st started, it was stuff that Owen, Dez and Mayte were trying to get rid of. From what I've read (here on the org) and I'm not going thru 1000's of posts to try to find it, Prince was really trying to get Owen's stuff pulled, I don't think he really cared about the crap Mayte had. He wasn't interested for 20 years about it....I think the auction house got kinda freaky because they knew Prince had the money to drag it out for a LONG time, the auction house pulled it and didn't want no part of it. The stuff Mayte had, he had his lawyer call her and said Prince would buy the stuff back. I actually think Prince was doing this because he thought Mayte really needed the $$. She had that stuff stored in special storage, and tried to reach out to Prince several times about it. When his lawyer called and asked for a list, she probably wasn't in a hurry to get to him, because he no longer controlled her and she'd do it on her own time. Then the unthinkable happened and Prince died.

.

If I was her (and I'm not) I wouldn't have included her ring OR the proposal letter, or the wedding dress. I would have held onto that for sentimental reasons, for the rest of my life. That other stuff like the blue outfit (which I never liked that outfit) would've been put in the auction. That was/is legally her property to do with what she liked.

.

As far as this dude in Spain is concerned I don't think it's ever been proven that she did have an affair with him. Mayte has said in her book that she regrets not getting her azz back to MN and maybe if she would've been with him more instead of staying in Spain or visiting her parents and sister that it might have helped the marriage survive. So she does have regrets and takes some blame in the divorce. If she would've stayed in MN then Mani wouldn't have been able to get her foot in the door. But that is just my opinion.

[Edited 4/17/17 19:44pm]

Thanks for the welcome, Pennypurple. You seem like you've thought about some things that don't make sense and questioned them. This Spain thing really bothers me and I don't understand why she would stay there because, as you say, she wrote she has regrets about not being in MN. So, she says "the girl in MN is on her way in" - a very telling clue according to her. They bought the house in August '98 and in December '98 he has her sign annulment papers and announced it to the press. We know two things: her marriage is in trouble and she living in Spain. Now, put yourself in her shoes. She hears rumors about another woman sniffing around her husband, he rarely comes to Spain, she joins him only at events throughtout that year and a half but she continues to stay in Spain until May, 2000. Why is my question. Knowing all these things, what's preventing her from going to MN? She's not doing anything in Spain but growing vegetables and waiting. Was there something in the annulment papers that stipulated she stay there? I mean, I could understand if it took her six months or so to not grasp the situation, but the more reports she heard about Mani and when he did come there they fought about her, why would she just sit back, for a year, and pray, it would all go away? As for Joaquin and the press, when has anyone ever admitted to having an affair in the press? Regardless, it still doesn't make sense to live on another continent if you're trying to save your marriage.

In the book Mayte states that the house in Spain was initially supposed to be for them both to move there and she went, with P's agreement, to start whatever needed to be done to get things moved in and organized...and he was to join her. The house in Spain was going to be their new home, that's how P presented the idea to her. They'd be making a fresh start after all the tragedy with Amiir's passing and the miscarraige.

So she went, knowing that he was working, etc between him visiting her and her visiting him in Minnesota. Then the visits became less frequent, but they were still communicating and things were good, if a bit strained due to him trying to convince her to rethink becoming JW. Then the visits were fewer, with bigger gaps and when they'd visit each other there was more pressure from him for her to become JW and still she kept hope that he was going through a phase...like her parents did in their marraige.

She wasn't simply sitting beside the window with a candle, waiting for P's return. They were also visiting back and forth and travelling together to events and such.

In retrospect, Mayte does say that she thinks she left him in Minnesota alone too much, but she was also busy with the house, her projects and her family visited at times and she visited them, too. Sure, it's possible that a woman left alone could've cheated, but if you read the book, that's simply not where her head was at during that time.

Of course, if someone wants to believe differently, they will...and frankly, it's not my desire to convince anyone.

"Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still" and all that...

Cheers

PennyPurple said:

DD55 said:

humm when it comes to an ex husband it all has to be or not be sentimental. I sold my ring, it was over. Could have made a necklace what I probably wouldn't wear that either. She was moving on... getting rid of everything. Best move she could make, get on with her life. Although I wonder if he could have brought himself to buy back the ring that held so many memories. We'll never know, unles there is a finishe manuscript in that vault somewhere.

Well I haven't ever been divorced, but if that ring was from Prince, you couldn't pry it away from me.

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My mom and dad were divorced and my mom went out and hocked her ring, partly because she disliked my dad rather intensly and partly because she had no money to put food on the table for us 3 kids. My dad passed almost 2 years ago and I've often thought as the only daughter, that I would really like to have had that ring that my dad gave my mom in 1962, it wasn't worth anything $$ wise, it would just be sentimental to me and something I could've passed down to my daughters.

Penny, I see your point and my daughter asked me if I thought of giving the ring to my son to give to his future wife. I thought about it and then said no, why would I pass something which doesn't have good memories? That is just me. It's not like it was handed down for generations, in my case.

DD55 said:

PennyPurple said:

Well I haven't ever been divorced, but if that ring was from Prince, you couldn't pry it away from me.

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My mom and dad were divorced and my mom went out and hocked her ring, partly because she disliked my dad rather intensly and partly because she had no money to put food on the table for us 3 kids. My dad passed almost 2 years ago and I've often thought as the only daughter, that I would really like to have had that ring that my dad gave my mom in 1962, it wasn't worth anything $$ wise, it would just be sentimental to me and something I could've passed down to my daughters.

Penny, I see your point and my daughter asked me if I thought of giving the ring to my son to give to his future wife. I thought about it and then said no, why would I pass something which doesn't have good memories? That is just me. It's not like it was handed down for generations, in my case.

Yeah, my mom's ring wasn't worth much, it was a terrible, terrible divorce. I just wished I had something that my dad gave my mom, in much happier times.

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Welcome Misslink, I am glad you decided to come to the Book Club. I wish you would've been here from Chapter 1.

The Auction:

The stuff that was left in possesion was legally hers, she got it in lieu of money. When that auction 1st started, it was stuff that Owen, Dez and Mayte were trying to get rid of. From what I've read (here on the org) and I'm not going thru 1000's of posts to try to find it, Prince was really trying to get Owen's stuff pulled, I don't think he really cared about the crap Mayte had. He wasn't interested for 20 years about it....I think the auction house got kinda freaky because they knew Prince had the money to drag it out for a LONG time, the auction house pulled it and didn't want no part of it. The stuff Mayte had, he had his lawyer call her and said Prince would buy the stuff back. I actually think Prince was doing this because he thought Mayte really needed the $$. She had that stuff stored in special storage, and tried to reach out to Prince several times about it. When his lawyer called and asked for a list, she probably wasn't in a hurry to get to him, because he no longer controlled her and she'd do it on her own time. Then the unthinkable happened and Prince died.

.

If I was her (and I'm not) I wouldn't have included her ring OR the proposal letter, or the wedding dress. I would have held onto that for sentimental reasons, for the rest of my life. That other stuff like the blue outfit (which I never liked that outfit) would've been put in the auction. That was/is legally her property to do with what she liked.

.

As far as this dude in Spain is concerned I don't think it's ever been proven that she did have an affair with him. Mayte has said in her book that she regrets not getting her azz back to MN and maybe if she would've been with him more instead of staying in Spain or visiting her parents and sister that it might have helped the marriage survive. So she does have regrets and takes some blame in the divorce. If she would've stayed in MN then Mani wouldn't have been able to get her foot in the door. But that is just my opinion.

[Edited 4/17/17 19:44pm]

Thanks for the welcome, Pennypurple. You seem like you've thought about some things that don't make sense and questioned them. This Spain thing really bothers me and I don't understand why she would stay there because, as you say, she wrote she has regrets about not being in MN. So, she says "the girl in MN is on her way in" - a very telling clue according to her. They bought the house in August '98 and in December '98 he has her sign annulment papers and announced it to the press. We know two things: her marriage is in trouble and she living in Spain. Now, put yourself in her shoes. She hears rumors about another woman sniffing around her husband, he rarely comes to Spain, she joins him only at events throughtout that year and a half but she continues to stay in Spain until May, 2000. Why is my question. Knowing all these things, what's preventing her from going to MN? She's not doing anything in Spain but growing vegetables and waiting. Was there something in the annulment papers that stipulated she stay there? I mean, I could understand if it took her six months or so to not grasp the situation, but the more reports she heard about Mani and when he did come there they fought about her, why would she just sit back, for a year, and pray, it would all go away? As for Joaquin and the press, when has anyone ever admitted to having an affair in the press? Regardless, it still doesn't make sense to live on another continent if you're trying to save your marriage.

Like LBrent said, the only reason she was in Spain is because of his promises to make a life there with her.

LBrent said:

Misslink88 said:

Thanks for the welcome, Pennypurple. You seem like you've thought about some things that don't make sense and questioned them. This Spain thing really bothers me and I don't understand why she would stay there because, as you say, she wrote she has regrets about not being in MN. So, she says "the girl in MN is on her way in" - a very telling clue according to her. They bought the house in August '98 and in December '98 he has her sign annulment papers and announced it to the press. We know two things: her marriage is in trouble and she living in Spain. Now, put yourself in her shoes. She hears rumors about another woman sniffing around her husband, he rarely comes to Spain, she joins him only at events throughtout that year and a half but she continues to stay in Spain until May, 2000. Why is my question. Knowing all these things, what's preventing her from going to MN? She's not doing anything in Spain but growing vegetables and waiting. Was there something in the annulment papers that stipulated she stay there? I mean, I could understand if it took her six months or so to not grasp the situation, but the more reports she heard about Mani and when he did come there they fought about her, why would she just sit back, for a year, and pray, it would all go away? As for Joaquin and the press, when has anyone ever admitted to having an affair in the press? Regardless, it still doesn't make sense to live on another continent if you're trying to save your marriage.

In the book Mayte states that the house in Spain was initially supposed to be for them both to move there and she went, with P's agreement, to start whatever needed to be done to get things moved in and organized...and he was to join her. The house in Spain was going to be their new home, that's how P presented the idea to her. They'd be making a fresh start after all the tragedy with Amiir's passing and the miscarraige.

So she went, knowing that he was working, etc between him visiting her and her visiting him in Minnesota. Then the visits became less frequent, but they were still communicating and things were good, if a bit strained due to him trying to convince her to rethink becoming JW. Then the visits were fewer, with bigger gaps and when they'd visit each other there was more pressure from him for her to become JW and still she kept hope that he was going through a phase...like her parents did in their marraige.

She wasn't simply sitting beside the window with a candle, waiting for P's return. They were also visiting back and forth and travelling together to events and such.

In retrospect, Mayte does say that she thinks she left him in Minnesota alone too much, but she was also busy with the house, her projects and her family visited at times and she visited them, too. Sure, it's possible that a woman left alone could've cheated, but if you read the book, that's simply not where her head was at during that time.

Of course, if someone wants to believe differently, they will...and frankly, it's not my desire to convince anyone.

"Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still" and all that...

Cheers

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

I was playing the New Power Soul album and decided to look it up at PrinceVault to see the info I don't remember from when it first came out.

It came out in June 1998.

And I almost choked on my coffee when I read the Thanks in the liner notes.

Wow, that's really nervy of P to do that. Honestly.

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

She was a whore, Laura, a big fat whore. You happy now?

Are you happy because I never said she was a whore. In fact if she did run around with that guy more power to her. Prince was running around with M2 and according to her loads of other women.

She knew he was a manwhore when she worked for him. Anyone would get tired of the double standard.

I just think she should be honest about it and I still say she should have went back to Minn and beat M2's ass. She looks likes Sue Sauagehead being friends with that hooker.

LBrent said:

I was playing the New Power Soul album and decided to look it up at PrinceVault to see the info I don't remember from when it first came out.

It came out in June 1998.

And I almost choked on my coffee when I read the Thanks in the liner notes.

Thanks

"TheNewPowerGeneration would like 2 praise God/Love/Truth 4 universal knowledge and preservation in the face of mendacity... thank u 4 everexpanding clarity. Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Doug E. Fresh, Hornheadz and Kat Dyson: your contributions b da bomb... peace, at least! NPG Records thanx - , Mayte, Jacqui Thompson, Willie Donwell, Parke, Billy Sparks, Opnmind, Milv, Evolve2001, Manuella T. and Love4Oneanother Charities, Inc.. NPG Records is owned and operated by the New Power Generation. A word 2 all up and coming "artists" - the art u create is an xtension of u and your contribution is priceless. Don't sell out. $ is only paper and your picture ain't on it, but a good song never dies. Much respect 2 the husbands and midwives and husbands - Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Kirk Johnson 4 the drum and synth programs, Doug E. Fresh and the Hornheadz."

Wow, that's really nervy of P to do that. Honestly.

Yes, M2 was working for him. We all pointed out how she lied about starting to work for him in 2000.

I love the shout out to the midwives he meant sisterwives.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

In the book Mayte states that the house in Spain was initially supposed to be for them both to move there and she went, with P's agreement, to start whatever needed to be done to get things moved in and organized...and he was to join her. The house in Spain was going to be their new home, that's how P presented the idea to her. They'd be making a fresh start after all the tragedy with Amiir's passing and the miscarraige.

So she went, knowing that he was working, etc between him visiting her and her visiting him in Minnesota. Then the visits became less frequent, but they were still communicating and things were good, if a bit strained due to him trying to convince her to rethink becoming JW. Then the visits were fewer, with bigger gaps and when they'd visit each other there was more pressure from him for her to become JW and still she kept hope that he was going through a phase...like her parents did in their marraige.

She wasn't simply sitting beside the window with a candle, waiting for P's return. They were also visiting back and forth and travelling together to events and such.

In retrospect, Mayte does say that she thinks she left him in Minnesota alone too much, but she was also busy with the house, her projects and her family visited at times and she visited them, too. Sure, it's possible that a woman left alone could've cheated, but if you read the book, that's simply not where her head was at during that time.

Of course, if someone wants to believe differently, they will...and frankly, it's not my desire to convince anyone.

"Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still" and all that...

Cheers

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

Laura right now the topic of this discussion is the afterword. You did not read the book, you said you read PART of the bootleg copy. Don't come over here and start it. There are 20 other threads about Mayte, stay on those threads, this is about the BOOK.

I dug a bit further and by the Nov 1999 Joy Un2 album, Mayte is now after Manuela in the credits, and Manuela's full name is used.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said: She was a whore, Laura, a big fat whore. You happy now?

Are you happy because I never said she was a whore. In fact if she did run around with that guy more power to her. Prince was running around with M2 and according to her loads of other women.

She knew he was a manwhore when she worked for him. Anyone would get tired of the double standard.

I just think she should be honest about it and I still say she should have went back to Minn and beat M2's ass. She looks likes Sue Sauagehead being friends with that hooker.

And that all may very well be true...and anyone and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion regarding the events that Mayte tells about in the book, however, she said she didn't cheat on P, P said she didn't cheat on him...and other than media saying Mayte was "seen" with some guy in Spain, there is no evidence to support the assumption that she might've cheated other than having been seen in public with some guy.

So unless someone can prove that it happened...it didn't happen. Despite whomever it may or may not make sense to...if it can't be proven, it didn't happen.

Just sayin

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

I think she didn't leave Spain because she new her marriage was in total danger, and to rock the boat would start the wave that would kill their relationship. I think she knew that when she stood up to him her relationship was done, and it was the last thing she wanted, so the longer she did nothing, the longer it would be until she had to go through the storm. I totally understand, she didn't want it to end.

Yup, that makes loads of sense.

LBrent said:

laurarichardson said:

Are you happy because I never said she was a whore. In fact if she did run around with that guy more power to her. Prince was running around with M2 and according to her loads of other women.

She knew he was a manwhore when she worked for him. Anyone would get tired of the double standard.

I just think she should be honest about it and I still say she should have went back to Minn and beat M2's ass. She looks likes Sue Sauagehead being friends with that hooker.

And that all may very well be true...and anyone and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion regarding the events that Mayte tells about in the book, however, she said she didn't cheat on P, P said she didn't cheat on him...and other than media saying Mayte was "seen" with some guy in Spain, there is no evidence to support the assumption that she might've cheated other than having been seen in public with some guy.

So unless someone can prove that it happened...it didn't happen. Despite whomever it may or may not make sense to...if it can't be proven, it didn't happen.

Just sayin

I said that is what the rumors were and I also told you what Carmen said about what he did when he thought she was seeing someone else. I believe he thought she was seeing that dancer. I never said it was true but dude's do not burn up shit for no reason. He was pissed at her for something and it was not just because she did not want to be a JW. I really wonder if some of you have ever been in an adult realationship with a man.

Guys do things a certain way especially brothers. There is a whole contingent of people on this board who keep thinking Prince was Sammy Lunchment. He was not going to tolerate the idea of her being with another man. Now you can live in La La land with Mayte if that is were you want to reside but I live in the real world.

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Are you happy because I never said she was a whore. In fact if she did run around with that guy more power to her. Prince was running around with M2 and according to her loads of other women.

She knew he was a manwhore when she worked for him. Anyone would get tired of the double standard.

I just think she should be honest about it and I still say she should have went back to Minn and beat M2's ass. She looks likes Sue Sauagehead being friends with that hooker.

You really are pathetic.

I am real and you need to grow up. The facts are she was married to a manwhore and she knew it from the beginning. He was dating Carmen and Nona at the same time he was dating her.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

Laura right now the topic of this discussion is the afterword. You did not read the book, you said you read PART of the bootleg copy. Don't come over here and start it. There are 20 other threads about Mayte, stay on those threads, this is about the BOOK.

You have no idea what I read or what I know. Everything I posted is realated to the book it just not want you want to read.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

And that all may very well be true...and anyone and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion regarding the events that Mayte tells about in the book, however, she said she didn't cheat on P, P said she didn't cheat on him...and other than media saying Mayte was "seen" with some guy in Spain, there is no evidence to support the assumption that she might've cheated other than having been seen in public with some guy.

So unless someone can prove that it happened...it didn't happen. Despite whomever it may or may not make sense to...if it can't be proven, it didn't happen.

Just sayin

I said that is what the rumors were and I also told you what Carmen said about what he did when he thought she was seeing someone else. I believe he thought she was seeing that dancer. I never said it was true but dude's do not burn up shit for no reason. He was pissed at her for something and it was not just because she did not want to be a JW. I really wonder if some of you have ever been in an adult realationship with a man.

Guys do things a certain way especially brothers. There is a whole contingent of people on this board who keep thinking Prince was Sammy Lunchment. He was not going to tolerate the idea of her being with another man. Now you can live in La La land with Mayte if that is were you want to reside but I live in the real world.

In the book, Mayte tells the reason that she was told he ordered his "assisstant" burn the belongings from the house.

"He wanted everything destroyed that would remind him" of Mayte and the baby.

That was his reason.

Sometimes it's as simple as that...just cuz, no other explanation needed or given.

Cuz I want it that way, period.

He wanted no reminders of her and the baby...and the byproduct would be that he could destroy the pain he felt...or so he thought.

[Edited 4/18/17 6:43am]

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said: You really are pathetic.

I am real and you need to grow up. The facts are she was married to a manwhore and she knew it from the beginning. He was dating Carmen and Nona at the same time he was dating her.

I know that you have very strong feelings regarding this issue and you're entitled to your feelings, however, your feelings don't change the events that happened in Mayte's life and her reaction or lack of reaction to those events.

She reacted in her way. It may not have been what you or I would've done in the same cicumstances, but it's what she did.

Call her naive, call her stupid, call her whatever, but nothing you or I or anyone else may feel about how she should've handled things will change what actually happened.

The song I love you but don't trust you anymore is mentioned in the book. Anyone who reads the actual book would know this. They had a huge fight. She accused him of many things. He made it into a song. People naturally assumed it was beacause she was cheating on him. I never believed she cheated on him. She was desperate to save her marriage and gave him space and time. I get it. By the time she realizes that she left him alone for too long, it was too late.

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If this thread is going to turn into something vile like all the other threats that involve Mayte, I'm out. I don't like the unnecessary name calling and the total disrespect for Mayte.

LBrent said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said:

In the book, Mayte tells the reason that she was told he ordered his "assisstant" burn the belongings from the house.

"He wanted everything destroyed that would remind him" of Mayte and the baby.

That was his reason.

I think it was a mistake for her to include the burning incident in her book, as she did not know for a fact it happened, and it is the worst thing she said about prince. If she had said prince removed everything that reminded him of the baby, I think it would have been received better, as for her stuff, people get rid of ex lovers stuff in all types of dramatic ways, I don't think anyone would care. As for the babies ashes, it is illogical to burn ashes as they will only turn into ashes, people scatter ashes everywhere no one would have had a problem with him doing that either, except for the fact that he did not get her permission. For me the biggest problem regarding this part of the book is that mayte to this day does not know for sure what happened to her baby. She had every right and 20 years to sue prince for custody if she really wanted to know, but she didn't, so she should have just not included any of this stuff.

Thank you the voice of reason. If you do not know the details why say anything. How stupid does it sound to say he burned ashes ! But you know if the book company wants you to say something to sell the book you do it.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

In the book Mayte states that the house in Spain was initially supposed to be for them both to move there and she went, with P's agreement, to start whatever needed to be done to get things moved in and organized...and he was to join her. The house in Spain was going to be their new home, that's how P presented the idea to her. They'd be making a fresh start after all the tragedy with Amiir's passing and the miscarraige.

So she went, knowing that he was working, etc between him visiting her and her visiting him in Minnesota. Then the visits became less frequent, but they were still communicating and things were good, if a bit strained due to him trying to convince her to rethink becoming JW. Then the visits were fewer, with bigger gaps and when they'd visit each other there was more pressure from him for her to become JW and still she kept hope that he was going through a phase...like her parents did in their marraige.

She wasn't simply sitting beside the window with a candle, waiting for P's return. They were also visiting back and forth and travelling together to events and such.

In retrospect, Mayte does say that she thinks she left him in Minnesota alone too much, but she was also busy with the house, her projects and her family visited at times and she visited them, too. Sure, it's possible that a woman left alone could've cheated, but if you read the book, that's simply not where her head was at during that time.

Of course, if someone wants to believe differently, they will...and frankly, it's not my desire to convince anyone.

"Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still" and all that...

Cheers

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

That's what I don't get about Prince and guys who cheat. It's ok for them to go out with whom ever they choose, but when the woman does the same, they get in a huff about it.

Regarding Tommy Lee, was he still behaving this way when he was with Mayte? Just like Prince changed for the better after becoming a JW, maybe Tommy changed his ways. I don't know, I've never followed Tommy that much.

I don't know what Mayte was thinking at the time that she was in Spain, but I can see that maybe she needed some space for a while. After all that she went through, I would be emotionally drained.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

I think it was a mistake for her to include the burning incident in her book, as she did not know for a fact it happened, and it is the worst thing she said about prince. If she had said prince removed everything that reminded him of the baby, I think it would have been received better, as for her stuff, people get rid of ex lovers stuff in all types of dramatic ways, I don't think anyone would care. As for the babies ashes, it is illogical to burn ashes as they will only turn into ashes, people scatter ashes everywhere no one would have had a problem with him doing that either, except for the fact that he did not get her permission. For me the biggest problem regarding this part of the book is that mayte to this day does not know for sure what happened to her baby. She had every right and 20 years to sue prince for custody if she really wanted to know, but she didn't, so she should have just not included any of this stuff.

Totally agree with you on that one. Unnecessary information, not confirmed, that shed him in a bad light again. She wasn't working on any "projects" in Spain as far as I'm aware (if so, anyone feel free to please post a link as she did not talk about anything like that in the book). She'd done with Kamasutra, and she went there hoping they'd "find each other". She also wrote she and P didn't want a dysfunctional family, so whatever her parents did that was dysfunctional wouldn't have worked - and she knew that because she wrote about what P said of her father when she'd told him about his bringing a gf to one of her jobs. The basketball fight is another thing that doesn't make sense. She writes she was too tired to go. She wrote she was too tired a couple of times in her book. She had no job and no kids. What was she always so tired from???

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said:

In the book, Mayte tells the reason that she was told he ordered his "assisstant" burn the belongings from the house.

"He wanted everything destroyed that would remind him" of Mayte and the baby.

That was his reason.

I think it was a mistake for her to include the burning incident in her book, as she did not know for a fact it happened, and it is the worst thing she said about prince. If she had said prince removed everything that reminded him of the baby, I think it would have been received better, as for her stuff, people get rid of ex lovers stuff in all types of dramatic ways, I don't think anyone would care. As for the babies ashes, it is illogical to burn ashes as they will only turn into ashes, people scatter ashes everywhere no one would have had a problem with him doing that either, except for the fact that he did not get her permission. For me the biggest problem regarding this part of the book is that mayte to this day does not know for sure what happened to her baby. She had every right and 20 years to sue prince for custody if she really wanted to know, but she didn't, so she should have just not included any of this stuff.

Perhaps you are right. Her need to justify to the world not having the baby's ashes in her posssession became more important, imo. She could have left that out, simply saying she does not know what became of them...

Back on topic please. We are discussing the foreword of the book.

tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

Her story does not make sense. Also there were stories in the media about her and that Spanish dancer guy being seen out together. I am not saying she did anything but he burned her stuff for a reason and remember he went the hell off on Carmen because she went out on a date with another guy at his nightclub. He flew Carmen to Minneapolis and played her the song "I Hate You" to let her know how he really felt.

You are talking about a very emotional person who lived via his music. Who do you think " I Love You But Don't Trust You" is about.

Also while I do not agree with all things JW many people have said he became a better person after he joined it is not like he was asking her to join the church of Satan. What exactly did she have against it because it does not appear she was some stanch Catholic. Your husband becoming a more spiritual person is not the worst thing in the world.

I question her faith and her values I mean she was running around with Tommy Lee the man who used to shoot Jack Daniels into his veins to come down off his Coke binge and who was on probation when she got with him.

That's what I don't get about Prince and guys who cheat. It's ok for them to go out with whom ever they choose, but when the woman does the same, they get in a huff about it.

Regarding Tommy Lee, was he still behaving this way when he was with Mayte? Just like Prince changed for the better after becoming a JW, maybe Tommy changed his ways. I don't know, I've never followed Tommy that much.

I don't know what Mayte was thinking at the time that she was in Spain, but I can see that maybe she needed some space for a while. After all that she went through, I would be emotionally drained.

There was a thread on here that had to with "a close friend" saying, in the press, that they had an open marriage. Maybe they did if both parties were discreet but then when she made the papers with Joaquin and P was being directly asked about it in the press, he pulled the plug?? Just thinking out loud.

LBrent said:

laurarichardson said:

I said that is what the rumors were and I also told you what Carmen said about what he did when he thought she was seeing someone else. I believe he thought she was seeing that dancer. I never said it was true but dude's do not burn up shit for no reason. He was pissed at her for something and it was not just because she did not want to be a JW. I really wonder if some of you have ever been in an adult realationship with a man.

Guys do things a certain way especially brothers. There is a whole contingent of people on this board who keep thinking Prince was Sammy Lunchment. He was not going to tolerate the idea of her being with another man. Now you can live in La La land with Mayte if that is were you want to reside but I live in the real world.

In the book, Mayte tells the reason that she was told he ordered his "assisstant" burn the belongings from the house.

"He wanted everything destroyed that would remind him" of Mayte and the baby.

That was his reason.

Sometimes it's as simple as that...just cuz, no other explanation needed or given.

Cuz I want it that way, period.

He wanted no reminders of her and the baby...and the byproduct would be that he could destroy the pain he felt...or so he thought.

[Edited 4/18/17 6:43am]

In the divorce file with M2 he told her he did not burn up her stuff because he had no ill will toward her meaning he had ill will toward M1 thus the reason he burned her stuff.

One of the asshole reporters from the Tribune put a screen shot of the e-mails on her twitter which how I read this exchange.