DD55 said:

PennyPurple said:

She flat out addressed the anullment rumor. It wasn't official or legally binding in anyway, shape or form.

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I don't get why he wanted her to wear the belly dancing outfit though.

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She told off her mom and her strict grandma. I'm wondering what the grandma said back to her. LOL

I thought about the belly dancing outfit also. There were a few things like that (the strip club) where I think he was pushing her away, picking fights, trying to create space to make it easier to split. IDK really, but that is what I thought after a few situations sounded silly to me.

Yes the annulment. Since Prince said it in (what was it) 1998, I wonder if that will ever be corrected in the minds of most Prince fans. Like she said.... guess what not everything you read on the internet is true.....

She doesn't say what grandma said but her sister is still with the other person (forgot her name), so hopefully the family is all ok.

I wonder if she reads the org?

rosylo said:

206Michelle said:

to your last paragraph.

Yes, what I wrote was more wishful thinking; he even had bought the land across PP for it (please correct me if I misunderstood this from LBrent's post). Your idea is more realistic. I wonder if the tax load could have been reduced by donating it to Pfeiffer research, just thinking outloud , I know the state was in disarray. I read in the other thread the book is selling well at #3, so may be Mayte will have enough to support something along the lines of what you suggested.

Addressing the property....I don't know the all the details, but I don't think that property could help with the tax load. P technically doanated to charity years ago. It was his charity, but a charity nontheless. He had already taken the tax write off with the IRS and state, as well as reduced property taxes. To try and reclaim that property would probably make more trouble than it's worth, but I am neither a legal person nor am I from MN (not familiar with MN state laws). Maybe someone else has insight into the situation.

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Penny I'll delete if I went to far off topic, as this is not in the book.

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PennyPurple said:

DD55 said:

I thought about the belly dancing outfit also. There were a few things like that (the strip club) where I think he was pushing her away, picking fights, trying to create space to make it easier to split. IDK really, but that is what I thought after a few situations sounded silly to me.

Yes the annulment. Since Prince said it in (what was it) 1998, I wonder if that will ever be corrected in the minds of most Prince fans. Like she said.... guess what not everything you read on the internet is true.....

She doesn't say what grandma said but her sister is still with the other person (forgot her name), so hopefully the family is all ok.

I wonder if she reads the org?

God I hope not. With the exception of this thread people are F'ing mean for no reason other than to just throw hate.

DD55 said:

rosylo said:

Yes, what I wrote was more wishful thinking; he even had bought the land across PP for it (please correct me if I misunderstood this from LBrent's post). Your idea is more realistic. I wonder if the tax load could have been reduced by donating it to Pfeiffer research, just thinking outloud , I know the state was in disarray. I read in the other thread the book is selling well at #3, so may be Mayte will have enough to support something along the lines of what you suggested.

I don't know the all the details, but I don't think that property could help with the tax load. P technically doanated to charity years ago. It was his charity, but a charity nontheless. He had already taken the tax write off with the IRS and state, as well as reduced property taxes. To try and reclaim that property would probably make more trouble than it's worth, but I am neither a legal person nor am I from MN (not familiar with MN state laws). Maybe someone else has insight into the situation.

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Penny I'll delete if I went to far off topic, as this is not in the book.

It's fine.

DD55 said:

PennyPurple said:

She flat out addressed the anullment rumor. It wasn't official or legally binding in anyway, shape or form.

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I don't get why he wanted her to wear the belly dancing outfit though.

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She told off her mom and her strict grandma. I'm wondering what the grandma said back to her. LOL

I thought about the belly dancing outfit also. There were a few things like that (the strip club) where I think he was pushing her away, picking fights, trying to create space to make it easier to split. IDK really, but that is what I thought after a few situations sounded silly to me.

Yes the annulment. Since Prince said it in (what was it) 1998, I wonder if that will ever be corrected in the minds of most Prince fans. Like she said.... guess what not everything you read on the internet is true.....

She doesn't say what grandma said but her sister is still with the other person (forgot her name), so hopefully the family is all ok.

I think he was just in full on jackazz mode.

Pushing her limits and looking for some sort of reaction.

He was doing the most.

Mayte also mentions smelling alcohol when among the JW's, and the way she describes Larry as talking on and on incoherently sometimes, I personally got the impression that whole JW situation might have been A way for Prince to NOT deal with his own drinking and drugging. In fact, hanging around these folks might have made his life a whole lot easier in this regard.
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LBrent said:

206Michelle said:

Mayte states on p. 244 that in terms of the JW study sessions, men and women study separately. Then on p. 247, she says that Mani was studying with the group. But if men and women studied separately, how much did these sessions bring together and Mani? Were the sessions for men in one room and then the sessions for women in a room next door? Were the sessions in separate buildings? The book doesn't say.

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At the same time, I don't think that Prince's conversion to the JW faith was all bad. As much as I love the man, I have difficulty listening to some of his sexually explicit music because it openly promotes fornication. I'm no expert on Baptist of Seventh-Day Adventist beliefs, but I can say that songs like "Darling Nikki," "Erotic City," "Let's Pretend We're Married" are totally inconsistent with the teachings of these denominations (and most Christian denominations) on sexual morality. He's an unmarried man singing songs like "Hot Thing" and "It" at the same time he's singing "The Cross." There were some pretty significant contradictions between his religious beliefs and his sexual behavior. This music promoted premarital sex and was therefore, totally at odds with his faith. As he got older, Prince cleaned up his act, and I think that was a good thing. Part of this may have been just getting older, part of it may have been his desire to make his shows more family friendly so that his older fans could bring their kids. But a big reason for him cleaning up his act was the JW faith.

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So, I think LG's influence on Prince was complicated. Based on what I read in chapter 10, it's hard for me to hold Larry responsible for much of anything other than introducing to the JW faith.

I agree with what I removed from your original post so it would'nt be so long.

What I bolded above confused me because men and women studying seperately isn't a JW thing. Perhaps it was simply a thing with the group that P/LG took Mayte to.

It's also not a religion that seperates men and women based on sitting together during worship based on who is married and who is single...However, each congregation, as in any faith, develops it's own unspoken customs so maybe where they attended worship had the habit of unconciously segregating themselves on their own, but it wasn't because it was a JW thing. It was a people thing.

The main point of where folks sit for worship is usually families sit together and couples sit together, like in most places of worship that don't segregate by sex. Elderly and mothers with small children often sit near the back to be closer to the restrooms.

Some JW worship venues have seperate soundproof rooms with a sound system and giant window for parents to comfortably be able to worhsip with small children and their crying/playing not disturb those in the main room, but the folks in these "mommy rooms" can still see and participate fully.

Just saying

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LBrent, if you don't mind me asking, are you a JW? You seem to know quite a bit about the faith. Anyway, I included the details about separation of men and women because Mayte included them in the book. She doesn't elaborate on the origins of the practice of separating men and women at JW events or why the practice occurred. When I attended college, the Catholic church where I attended had a room with soundproof glass for parents to take small children, but the parents could still hear and see what was happening.

80tomato said:

I have been reading all this beautiful commentary of how Prince cared for the baby in the hospital but I didn't get all that emotion from listening to the audible version...I think one has to be able to read and re-read the words and ponder them to get that depth of emotion...otherwise I enjoyed listening to the rest of the book.Did anyone else feel this way?

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That's interesting what you say, 80tomato. At some point, I want to listen to the audiobook. Speaking only for myself, I'm a visual person and it helps for me to see something in writing in order to grasp its meaning.

Chapter Eleven Timeline/Summary

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To refresh everyone’s memory, at the end of chapter 10, it is October 1998, and holds a press conference in Marabella, Spain for the Newpower Soul Tour, and Mayte accompanies him. At the end of the chapter, while at their home in Spain, Mayte recalls the lesson that she learned years earlier about ’s main girl being in Minneapolis.

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Chapter Eleven

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At the start of the chapter, Mayte addresses reports that she and ’s was annuled in 1998.

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Mid-December 1998 – Mayte recalls that he announced the annulment at a press conference while on the European leg of the New Power Soul Tour. She states that the announcement took place in Spain at the Santo Mauro Hotel, although she does not state the city where the hotel is located. On the way to the press conference, he discussed with her his beliefs about the marriage contract they signed. Mayte recalls being baffled by this conversation because he had proposed to her and wanted them to marry in a church. She recalls that she already felt estranged from him and did not want to increase the rift between them, so she did not say anything to him. She attends the press conference with him, hoping that it would turn out like the previous one in which he admitted that their marriage made him a better man. At the present press conference, he addresses his continuing battle for artist’s rights, his disbelief in contracts, and then stated that he and Mayte were going to have their marriage annulled, renew their vows, and “continue our marriage in a less traditional fashion.” She recalls playing “Princess Mayte” and not opposing what he said. She recalls in the car letting him know that she felt angry and betrayed about what he said. She recalls him going on a long rant, including quoting Biblical scripture. He wanted them to annull their marriage, renew their vows on February 14, 1999, and then be baptized together. He wanted her to sign a paper that agreed to annulling their vows.

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Mayte reflects on the annulment and believes that loved her and did not want to lose her, but was struggling with his flirtation with Manuela. She sees the annulment as a way to help him feel less guilty about his relationship with Manuela. Mayte recalls Manuela stating that she and did not have a sexual relationship until later. Reflecting on the situation, Mayte asserts that and Manuela’s friendship was inappropriate because he was a married man. She states that the annulment document was not legal or official. She had a difficult time with it because she felt it suggested that Amiir was born out of wedlock. Mayte confronts about his wandering eye for Manuela. Feeling defeated, Mayte eventualy signed the annulment document. When she woke up, he was gone.

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New Year’s Eve 1998 – and Mayte spend time in LA.

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New Year’s Day 1999 – Mayte and are in Las Vegas while he plays shows there over a couple of days at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas and then return to Minnesota. She recalls that for the next year, he never mentioned the annulment or renewal of his vows, and continued to publicly and privately refer to her as his wife.

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1999 – continues to spend time with the Grahams and JWs. Mayte spends quite a bit of time in Spain, and rarely travels there. He and Mayte meet up in Paris and he takes her to a strip club. She went along with it, and ends up drunk. Afterward, he left to return to Minnesota.

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September 1999 – She and meet up for the MTV Video Music Awards in New York City. He wants her to wear a red belly dancing outfit on the red carpet and during the awards show, but she refuses. In an effort to please him, she wore the red belly dancing outfit at the after parties. Afterward, they have a fight at the hotel. He accused her of being a disobedient wife for not wearing the red outfit on the red carpet. She throws a bottle of wine against the wall, trying to get through to him. They continue to speak to each other via phone.

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1999 – Maytetalks about how Jan was in a same-sex relationship and Mama had turned her back on Jan because Jan was a lesbian. Mayte goes off on her mother for turning her back on Jan. While familiy members are visiting the home in Spain, Mayte called out her Grandmother Nelly for how she treated Mama. There is a fire at the Marabella house.

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Late 1999 – releases “The Greatest Romance Ever Sold.” Mayte believes that some of the lyrics are about her. He also has a very steamy music video for the song, including a stripper. Mayte feels that the video is very disrespectful to her because she and are still married.

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November 1999 – releases Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic. She states that the lyrics in “” Love U But Don’t Trust U Anymore” are about their fight in Spain, not her cheating on him.

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December 31, 1999 – His contracts with Warner Brothers expire. He announces in early 2000 that he wants his name to be Prince again. She has a hard time coping with this name change because she never called him Prince. She also feels that their marriage is ending. She becomes depressed and loses her desire to fight for her marriage.

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March 20, 2000 – She writes Prince a letter telling him that she is very unhappy. She asks how they can resolve the their marital mess legally. Mayte explains why she did not pursue a more lucrative divorce settlement divorce. She states that she just wanted to move on. While she received the house in Spain, it took a long time to find a buyer for the house and so she ended up with no money from the divorce. She wants one thing, Amiir’s ashes. It took her a long time to find out what happened to the urn with his ashes. She finds out from a “compassionate friend” that Prince asked a male assistant to destroy everything that reminded him of Mayte and Amiir. When she pressed the friend about the ashes, the friend said that everything is gone.

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May 2000 – Mayte and Prince’s divorce is finalized. She states that her family helped her to deal with the divorce. She decides to start a new life in LA.

My thoughts on chapter 11:

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physically, emotionally, mentally, and physically checked out of the marriage.

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The annulment was a bunch of crap. was very creative, so creative that he contrived the annulment. They never renewed their vows on February 14, 1999. He continued to publicly and privately refer to her as his wife.

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Mayte spent too much time in Spain, and she admits it. She should have remembered that his top woman stays in Minneapolis.

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As for the strip club incident in Paris, I don't know what to think.

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Why would he ask her to dress in a bellydancing outfit on the red carpet when the JW faith promotes modest dress? Maybe he knew that asking her to do that would make her mad and he wanted to make her mad? I don't know, but it sounded like a very weird situation.

DD55 said:

PennyPurple said:

Is everyone ready for Chapter 11?

My Chapter 11 take-aways....

Chapter 11

After the press conference in Spain, he leave again, she is once again alone and she remembers… the girl in Minn is the girl other way in, the girl who leaves Minn is the girl on her way out.

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She says several times L and Tina are wonderful people but…. she says it so many times, hummm, she is overcompensating … . She starts to feel less and less welcome in her own house.

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He asked her to do strange things… he took her to a strip club, asked her to wear a belly dancing costume to an event. I think he was looking for a way to pick fights, he starts giving her grief for not being an obedient wife. She spends most of her time in Spain, or visiting her mom or sister, clearly she either didn’t get that she had to fight for him or in her heart of hearts she knew it was all over but the shouting.

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She had an office fire in Spain… she saw it as a bad omen for the future.

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He releases the video for ‘The Greatest Romance that’s ever been sold’. He releases 'I love you but I don’t trust you any more’ which is actually what she said to him during one of their many fights in Marbella. She is insulted and heartbroken at the same time.

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December 31, 1999, his contract expires, early 2000 he decides to once again become Prince. She starts to call him Prince and it is truly the end of their magical journey together.

She writes to him telling him she has come to terms with the fact that he doesn’t love her anymore. They are divorced and ironically she doesn’t even own the master of her own recording.

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She is now alone, divorce and broke. She decides to become an actress.

I agree that he did the strange things in order to pick fights with her and to try and push her away.

PennyPurple said:

She flat out addressed the anullment rumor. It wasn't official or legally binding in anyway, shape or form.

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I don't get why he wanted her to wear the belly dancing outfit though.

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She told off her mom and her strict grandma. I'm wondering what the grandma said back to her. LOL

I wondered the same thing!

LBrent said:

DD55 said:

I thought about the belly dancing outfit also. There were a few things like that (the strip club) where I think he was pushing her away, picking fights, trying to create space to make it easier to split. IDK really, but that is what I thought after a few situations sounded silly to me.

Yes the annulment. Since Prince said it in (what was it) 1998, I wonder if that will ever be corrected in the minds of most Prince fans. Like she said.... guess what not everything you read on the internet is true.....

She doesn't say what grandma said but her sister is still with the other person (forgot her name), so hopefully the family is all ok.

I think he was just in full on jackazz mode.

Pushing her limits and looking for some sort of reaction.

He was doing the most.

I totally agree. He was intent on sabatoging what was left of their marriage.

206Michelle said:

LBrent said:

I agree with what I removed from your original post so it would'nt be so long.

What I bolded above confused me because men and women studying seperately isn't a JW thing. Perhaps it was simply a thing with the group that P/LG took Mayte to.

It's also not a religion that seperates men and women based on sitting together during worship based on who is married and who is single...However, each congregation, as in any faith, develops it's own unspoken customs so maybe where they attended worship had the habit of unconciously segregating themselves on their own, but it wasn't because it was a JW thing. It was a people thing.

The main point of where folks sit for worship is usually families sit together and couples sit together, like in most places of worship that don't segregate by sex. Elderly and mothers with small children often sit near the back to be closer to the restrooms.

Some JW worship venues have seperate soundproof rooms with a sound system and giant window for parents to comfortably be able to worhsip with small children and their crying/playing not disturb those in the main room, but the folks in these "mommy rooms" can still see and participate fully.

Just saying

[Edited 4/15/17 17:28pm]

LBrent, if you don't mind me asking, are you a JW? You seem to know quite a bit about the faith. Anyway, I included the details about separation of men and women because Mayte included them in the book. She doesn't elaborate on the origins of the practice of separating men and women at JW events or why the practice occurred. When I attended college, the Catholic church where I attended had a room with soundproof glass for parents to take small children, but the parents could still hear and see what was happening.

I'm about as far as you can get from being religious.

I realized that the reason you mentioned women and men being seperated during worship was because that was what Mayte wrote in the book and I simply sought to clarify and give context.

Since she wrote her personal experience, she would have no way of knowing that what she saw/experienced wasn't common best practices following any specified JW doctrine.

[Edited 4/15/17 22:29pm]

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

Or, maybe there was nothing to "come clean" about.

After telling the story about telling off Mama Nelly and Grandma Nelly she tells about the house fire and she does mention that she's been busy partying and having a blast in Spain...during a house fire...or something like that.

I took that as a wiseazz way of addressing media rumors about whatever they thought she was supposedly doing in Spain.

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

LBrent said:

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

Or, maybe there was nothing to "come clean" about.

After telling the story about telling off Mama Nelly and Grandma Nelly she tells about the house fire and she does mention that she's been busy partying and having a blast in Spain...during a house fire...or something like that.

I took that as a wiseazz way of addressing media rumors about whatever they thought she was supposedly doing in Spain.

I didnt get the point of the grandma stories unless she just wanted to show us that she was now ever ready to stick up for women who are being mistreated, like she had finally learned she didn't have to put up with any mistreatment, even from her husband. Maybe I should read that part again and see if I find the wiseazz part lol.

PennyPurple said:

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish flamenco dancer she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

I dont have any idea and I cant even remember where I first read about this. I used to look at another Prince forum, maybe I can search over there. I'm not fond of the Alley, major Mayte hate over there. Wish me luck

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moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

I dont have any idea and I cant even remember where I first read about this. I used to look at another Prince forum, maybe I can search over there. I'm not fond of the Alley, major Mayte hate over there. Wish me luck

It's right after she talks about the fire, then the video of GRES, then the Rav Unto song I love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore and how folks jumped to the conclusion that she had cheated on him, but that the song was actually what she said to him during the argument in Spain when he wanted her to sign the fake annullment papers.

"...in Marabella, where the fun never stops...unless you're engulfed in flames."

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PennyPurple said:

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

He is a Spanish flamenco dancer named Joaquin Cortes.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1073137-Mayte-allegedly-cheated-on-Prince-in-Spain-with-flamenco-dancer-Joaquin-Cortes

moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

He is a Spanish flamenco dancer named Joaquin Cortes.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1073137-Mayte-allegedly-cheated-on-Prince-in-Spain-with-flamenco-dancer-Joaquin-Cortes

Whoa...I just visited Lipstick Ally again...

Nope..last time..there are some very bitter twisted women over there..scary

moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

Do you know the month and year this supposedly happened with Mayte and the affair? The reason I'm asking for the month, is so we can try to see what was going on at this time from the timeline.

He is a Spanish flamenco dancer named Joaquin Cortes.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1073137-Mayte-allegedly-cheated-on-Prince-in-Spain-with-flamenco-dancer-Joaquin-Cortes

Joaquin was very big in Spain at the time and there was talk about a possible affair. Of course word got to Prince. Being a typical controlling male, he felt his masculinity was being ridiculed, even though apparently he was already cheating with Mani. Go figure.

http://archivo.eluniversal.com.mx/espectaculos/1976.html

moonsister said:

At this point in the book, she mentions what is happening with Jan and the conversation with Mama. It sounds like after the conversation with Mama, she felt like talking to Grandma Nelly.
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My guess is that she kept journals or diaries and she mentioned this phone call in her Journal/diary.

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

MMJas said:

moonsister said:

He is a Spanish flamenco dancer named Joaquin Cortes.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1073137-Mayte-allegedly-cheated-on-Prince-in-Spain-with-flamenco-dancer-Joaquin-Cortes

Joaquin was very big in Spain at the time and there was talk about a possible affair. Of course word got to Prince. Being a typical controlling male, he felt his masculinity was being ridiculed, even though apparently he was already cheating with Mani. Go figure.

http://archivo.eluniversal.com.mx/espectaculos/1976.html

DD55 said:

moonsister said:

He may have been trying to make Mayte look somewhat "trashy" by asking her to dress strangely, or be seen in a strip club, then when he filed for divorce, he would look like the good guy, and she would look like a fallen woman. She, for whatever reason, didn't go along with these ideas, so he tried the quiet anullment angle, and that didn't work either. Manuela? maybe came up with these ideas, as I think it would take a woman to think these up.

I really had a problem with the fact that she did not mention the Spanish matador? she allegedly had an affair with. Seems she had no problem naming names here and there, how about she come clean on that, i mean, who would blame her for seeking some comfort? She was a young beautiful woman.

On a lighter note, the incident of wearing the red belly dancing outfit, it was hilarious when she said that she thought about telling him what she thought of his ‘corny little braids with blue ribbons’ but she didn’t say it because she wanted to make peace.

I'm not a fan of the blue pleather suit and the braids. I remember seeing the Rave CD as an adolescent and being like "What the heck is he wearing?" Having grown up in the 1990s (born in 1986), I already thought that was weird because he wrote SLAVE across his face and changed his name to a symbol; I was a kid when all of this happened and didn't understand what he was doing. The cover of the Rave album only reinforced my thoughts that he was weird. Now as an adult, I still am not a fan of the blue pleather suit and braids, but I have a much better understanding of the name change and why he wrote SLAVE on his face.

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I noticed in the book that she doesn't write much about his career in chapter 11; she mainly talks about him in the context of their marital issues. I wonder how much she even knew about what he was doing professionally at this time (late 1998 - 1999) because she doesn't talk about his work much.

Yes maybe the belly dancer clothes and corny braids stories were just included as a light hearted moment and a bridge between the sad parts and the ending.

She left Spain and moved in with her sister Jan in Harlem. Her divorce lawyer was in Jersey. Maybe for those who can't find the divorce records might check in Jersey.

Is everyone ready to move onto Chapter 12?